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superdudesellout
08-12-2004, 09:06 PM
I was just wondering if anyone was familiar with Dr. Hawkins work. A
lot of what he talks about doesn't talk about free will too much,
but you will notice his subject he tests makes sure he asks
permission to ask the questions. So I was wondering if anyone had
anything to say on the subject. Thanks!
Beverly Thompson
08-13-2004, 05:53 AM
Dear asc2k friends:
By the mere fact that Dr. Hawkins asks permission implies his respect towards
free will.
Healing Love,
Bev
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Subject: [asc2k] Power Vs. Force and kinesiology
I was just wondering if anyone was familiar with Dr. Hawkins work. A
lot of what he talks about doesn't talk about free will too much,
but you will notice his subject he tests makes sure he asks
permission to ask the questions. So I was wondering if anyone had
anything to say on the subject. Thanks!
Bob Vanassen
08-13-2004, 10:25 AM
I am familiar with his work but not near as much as some of those on the two
yahoo groups dedicated to his work (powervsforce and drhawkinsgroup). While
I find most of the k-testing results interesting and insightful especially
among the religious sects and texts, some other results leave me bewildered.
He tests America at 410- the highest of any country; Bush at 465, humanity
currently at 209, but Lightworkers at only about 220 . He has also so far
stayed away from k- testing things such as what I perceive to be manipulated
events and our foreign policy past and present. He has a new book due out
soon in which he promises to make a lot of people uncomfortable with
thousands of new items covered. I believe free will is covered in his latest
book called "I-Reality and Subjectivity".
As for your email about your age- are you familiar with the terms Indigo
Children and Crystal Children? There books out on this subject. Both the
James Twyman (alot) and Lightworker.com websites deal with this issue along
with books out on the topic. Peace Bob
brandon knodel
08-13-2004, 11:30 AM
"By the mere fact that Dr. Hawkins asks permission implies his respect towards
free will.
Healing Love,
Bev"
Brandon: Yes, but he only does that on his videos with his wife as the
instrument. It is odd because he seemingly forgets free will. Also his
calibrations could be skewed by the free will of his readers. HE also claims to
access "conciousness itself" , but it could very well just be a channeled
entity, and in fact I bet it is. Bush Calibrating that high though got a chuckle
out of me, but he also said Satan calibrated at 870. I could see see Bush
calibrating at over 400 negatively. He doesn't address negative polarity in
Power Vs. Force. Although the comment of Satan calibrating at 870 caught my eye.
I think its astounding work and I have used Kineisiology for a number of things
maintaining freewill. If I were to try to interfere with that free will of
myself//others then I would get inaccurate results. BTW thank you for the Book
requests I will look into those!
Love and Light- Brandon
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Lori Zatz
08-16-2004, 06:11 AM
Brandon: Bush Calibrating that high though got a chuckle out of me, but he
also said Satan calibrated at 870. I could see see Bush calibrating at over 400
negatively. He doesn't address negative polarity in Power Vs. Force.
lori: Hawkins talks about Bush being in Integrity; doing what he believes in.
He also talks about him, and other leaders acting within a range of level of
consciousness, and not judging them good/bad.
When does one become negatively polarized? How do we know that Bush is? It is
easy to think so based current events. I liked reading that Bush calibrates
high. It helped me to see things differently, give me more understanding and
compassion. Not really interested in seeing him continue as president, but that
doesn't mean he is negatively polarized.
peace, Lori
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srachele2004
08-20-2004, 12:29 PM
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<superdudesellout@y...> wrote:
> I was just wondering if anyone was familiar with Dr. Hawkins work. A
> lot of what he talks about doesn't talk about free will too much,
> but you will notice his subject he tests makes sure he asks
> permission to ask the questions. So I was wondering if anyone had
> anything to say on the subject. Thanks!
Sal here:
I'll try to stay within the rules on this one. I have read "The Eye of
the I" (the next book in the Power v. Force series). I also have
friends that know Dr. Hawkins personally.
I think Dr. Hawkins' work is excellent; however, I would urge caution
regarding the calibration levels and biokinesiology. These techniques
are useful if you are out of touch with your own intuitive nature and
need specific guidance regarding what or what not to eat, or wear, or
where to hang out, etc. You can even use muscle testing to find out
the calibration level of another person. However, the temptation for
ego to mis-use this is enormous. Some souls could even disintegrate
into "so-and-so is higher than so-and-so. I know because I tested it."
Dr. Hawkins specifically warns against using calibration and
muscle-testing to predict the future.
If you want more info, you should probably contact me privately.
--Sal
srachele2004
08-20-2004, 01:41 PM
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=3CjORYPz11T7wsuJAW9uqTKGxzEn0i8c9t0p8O eUlc6ZDzjxgW7FY2ZEHLDQtNz2W_TL57c2JkjnuAGfSg), "Bob Vanassen" <bobstf@i...> wrote:
> [Dr. Hawkins] tests America at 410- the highest of any country; Bush
at 465, humanity currently at 209, but Lightworkers at only about 220.
Sal here:
I believe the numbers for Bush and Lightworkers are turned around.
Long before I saw the above information, I did a test on Bush and came
up with 220. At the same time, my level was almost exactly 465
(probably similar to most lightworkers).
Just my two cents.
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