Mayan Calendar And Economic Crisis

[Light Eye]

we'll just have to wait and see...

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/mayan_calendar_and_economic_crisis/id/3389

love and light.

david

mayan calendar and economic crisis
by carl johan calleman




recently a discussion based on the mayan calendar regarding an upcoming economic
crisis in the united states has emerged. as i have shown in my forthcoming book:
the mayan calendar and the transformation of consciousness the mayan calendar
does indeed with great exactness describe the ups and downs of the current
economic system and this by itself is an important piece of news. considering
that we are getting deeper into a new underworld, a new stage in the evolution
of consciousness, such a discussion is indeed very much needed.



superficially, the united states economy seems now to be doing just fine
considering recent growth reports. nonetheless, it is on steroids and if we look
at the situation more deeply we will realize that it is not a matter of if an
economic crisis will hit the west, but when. we are then not talking about a
crisis in a traditional sense, as part of a growth recession cycle in the
economic activities, but more of a civilizational crisis. the whole framework of
?economy? is about to shift. this shift may, based on the mayan calendar, be
expected to be precipitated by an altered relationship, also in economic terms,
between east and west.



and it seems obvious that the relationship especially of china, but also of
other asian nations, to the west is now undergoing a significant transformation.
the us debt to china, whose economy of 1.25 billion people grows close to 10 % a
year, is currently at about $ 100 billion. paradoxically as it may seem, some of
the steroids in the us economy are actually coming from asian nations, that by
buying dollars and us governmental bonds help pay for the $ 500 billion deficit
in the us congressional budget. the idea is apparently that by helping to keep
the us economy afloat the asian nations will fuel their own exports and so keep
the wheels turning. the problem with this is that at the current
negative-real-interest-rate holders of us bonds and assets loose money and this
holds true also for the central banks of some asian nations.



thus, this situation, which ultimately goes back to the altered relationship
between the east and the west can not be perpetuated forever. again, it is more
a question of when, than if, this balance will collapse. the point to realize
here is that we are approaching not a temporary recession or depression, but
more like a civilizational crisis. at the heart of the matter is the very notion
of value and to realize this we may make a thought experiment. suppose that, for
whatever reason, all the world?s banking and stock computers would suddenly
suffer from head crashes, meaning that all records of possession of stock, bank
accounts, options, etc would be erased. what would be the consequence of such a
simultaneous head crash? well, none of the buildings, machinery, agriculture,
mines, means of transportation or human competence would be lost and so nothing
of value ? from the perspective of human sustenance ? would be lost. the world
could easily pick up the day after (except for
because of the effects of the emotional shock wave). what would be lost however
would be zillions of dollars in cyberspace, numbers in bank account symbolizing
abstract holdings. but if nothing of substance would be lost this would
logically mean that the total amount of holdings today in paper money, bank
accounts, stock, bonds, options etc is totally worthless. the only reason paper
and cyber assets seems to have value is that large numbers of people agree to
participate in the same global monopoly game.



in my view then, it is really quetzalcoatl that will bring this economic crisis
to the united states in particular and the west in general. quetzalcoatl now
favors the concrete perception of the world of the right brain half. then, we
also know that these expressions that in one way or another will precipitate an
economic crisis should come during a period of light in the galactic underworld.
this points to june 6, 2004, the midpoint of the current night, as the beginning
of the approach to the economic crisis, which would be expected to blow out
fully by the beginning of the fourth day of the galactic underworld on december
4, 2004...




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[aaaxxxisss]

david,
i'm wondering about the naming of dates, and thus the
love/intent of the information, more with respect to
clarity, avoiding impunity for or against, of any
sources of such, such as such is as this. ra, as i
recall, in fact questions the impunity of such
information, as much from a "transient information"
position, as from a spiritual one, in as much as it is
inherently too too wrong and confusing in any case
anyway, as is seen below.

given that we are all members here, surely the
consensus is that a shaking and shakeup is imminent
and impending...or so we think we think.
whether true or otherwise, we would all seem to be in
agreement, clear enough, that "the times they are
a-changin."

but who could know the day, or the hour, much less the
year, or even more precisely, the month, of what we
think we think, given that we can't even come to
agreement on what our reference to time is, much less
what year we are truly in? we think we know, but we
don't know. if i know....then i know. if i know i
don't know....then i'll look it up to know. if i just
don't know and say i do...then i'm just mistaken or a
fool. but..it gets even thicker yet when we don't even
know what we don't even know. we habitually think we
think, but so much of what we think, we do more so
from route and regurgitation rather than from true
origin of self and from original thought. we all,
everyone of us, so often simply regurgitate "fancy"
masquerading as "fact." this is not thinking. and
this we do even deeper yet within the illusion of and
from within the veil of the illusion of forgetting. it
thus gets pretty murky, heady, and pretty deep, to be
mired within the mire.

with all this in mind, allow me then to share an
example of the point of altogether common information,
stated more than once historically, and academically,
as regards the present gregorian calender converted
from the previous julian calender, but with blatant
miscalculations from its inception to begin with:

chronology of the birth of christ as recorded in
the gospels of matthew and luke:

1.the birth of jesus christ occurred in bethlehem
somewhere perhaps between january 6 to february 18
4 to 5 bc as explained further below.

2.within the time prescribed by jewish law and custom,
christ was presented at the temple within 40 days
after his birth (luke 2:21, 22) and his parents made
the "offering of the poor" which was a pair of
turtledoves or two young pigeons (luke 2:24) .

3.the presentation of christ at the temple was before
the arrival of the magi. the gifts of gold,
frankincense and myrrh (luke 2:11) would have removed
any necessity of having to make " an offering of the
poor " at the presentation.

4.the magi arrived at herod's court sometime prior to
the summer solstice (june 25 th ) of 5 bc inquiring as
to the whereabouts of the "new king" stating that they
had " seen his star " (past tense) and had come to
worship him (matthew 2:2) .

5.herod, when he had privily called the wise men,
inquired of them diligently what time the star had
appeared (last march) and ordered that they return to
him to report the result of their search (matthew 2:7)
. herod, sometime after it became clear to him that
the magi were not returning, and prior to his death in
march 4 bc, ordered the slaying of all male children
two years old and under (matthew 2:16) . (note: christ
was in his second year of life at the time of herod's
demise).

herod's death in march 4 b.c. is an historical fact.
his passing was marked by a lunar eclipse. after the
visit of the magi, mary and joseph took the christ
child into egypt and remained there until they
received word of herod's death. they then returned
from egypt to nazareth (matthew 2:12 and 2:19-2:21).


the gregorian calendar is the one commonly used today.
it was proposed by aloysius lilius, a physician from
naples, and adopted by pope gregory xiii in accordance
with instructions from the council of trent
(1545-1563) to correct for errors in the older julian
calendar. it was decreed by pope gregory xiii in a
papal bull, inter gravissimas, on february 24, 1582
(shown at below right). this bull is named "inter
gravissimas" after its first two words.

however before that, in about 523 a.d., the papal
chancellor, bonifatius, asked a monk by the name of
dionysius exiguus to devise a way to implement the
rules from the nicean council (the so-called
"alexandrine rules") for general use.

dionysius exiguus (in english known as denis the
little...it might have been too much had he been denis
the menace) was a monk from scythia. he was a canon in
the roman curia, and his assignment was to prepare
calculations of the dates of easter. at that time it
was customary to count years since the reign of
emperor diocletian; but in his calculations dionysius
chose to number the years since the birth of christ
instead, rather than honour the persecutor diocletian.

herein then comes the rub as to all of my trite above.
dionysius (wrongly) fixed jesus' birth with respect to
diocletian's reign in such a manner that it falls on
25 december 753 auc (ab urbe condita, i.e. since the
founding of rome), thus making the current era start
with 1 a.d. on 1 january 754 auc.

how dionysius established the year of christ's birth
is not known. jesus was born under the reign of king
herod the great, who died in 750 auc, which means that
jesus could have been born no later than that year.
dionysius' calculations were disputed at a very early
stage. he was just wrong. he still is. but we mustn't
allow that to bother us when we are affixed and
numbered days to our end. particularly and in fact
when these days are foretold, written, prophesied, and
given prior to the moving of the bottom line as it
were and before the fact.

when people started dating years before 754 auc using
the term "before christ," they let the year 1 b.c.
immediately precede 1 a.d. with no intervening year
zero.


the simple point herein is this....we are not even
truly in the year 2004, as such, given that the switch
from the then juliam calender to the present day
gregorian calender was made with a 4 to five year
difference of mistaken time frame. we thus are perhaps
in fact somewhere in the year 2008 to 2009 "in fact"
by referencing the present year 2004 by the birth of
jesus christ, which was inherently miscalculated to
begin with.

so, when we name dates of imminent occurrences,
according to omens, signs, portents, channels,
prophesies, gurus, and even calenders, etc., what the
heck is our reference point of date? we don't know.

we really don't know. i might also, as a result,
surmise that the channels and doom sayers and
calenders are as imminently confused or off the mark
as we are, given that we all operate and communicate
from within the veil, "seeing through a glass dimly"
as it were. and thus i am convinced that a rather
wonderful sage that stood upon a rock some 2004, or
was that 2008-2009 years ago, stated, with rather
insightful knowingness, and perhaps a little tongue in
cheek, given that he knew we might get it wrong in any
case, "no man knoweth the hour."

knowing nothing, attempting the loving of all

axis



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http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/mayan_calendar_and_economic_crisis/id/3389
>
> love and light.
>
> david

> mayan calendar and economic crisis
> by carl johan calleman
>
>
>
>
> recently a discussion based on the mayan calendar
> regarding an upcoming economic crisis in the united
> states has emerged.

this
> points to june 6, 2004, the midpoint of the current
> night, as the beginning of the approach to the
> economic crisis, which would be expected to blow out
> fully by the beginning of the fourth day of the
> galactic underworld on december 4, 2004...

>
>




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[aaaxxxisss]

thanks to many of you who have mailed me privately and
for your compliments.
thanks for the brevity and humor kay. it so damn
heady, academic, and serious otherwise.

thanks to you too david for the article and sharing
the info. it opens wonderful windows and provolks even
more wonderful counterpoint.

where indeed are we then in time? if we were to take
any of theses "dates" as basis for fact, then the
millenial changes, y2k, the end of the world
scenarios, etc. etc. etc., ad infinitum, either in
fact didn't happen, or, already took place in 1995 to
1996 and we were asleep at the wheel and didn't know
it.

"maybe", in fact, the world did change, is different,
and for those still asleep at wheel, it continues to
hold itself in pattern according to consensus reality,
in spite of it being a whole new world.

this might in fact be the manner in which a 4th
desnsity vibrational change would look like...for the
one changed...verses the one still in pattern?
(matthew 24:39) jesus speaking:
39 they did not know until the flood came and carried
them all away. so will it be (also) at the coming of
the son of man.
40
24 two men will be out in the field; one will be
taken, and one will be left.
41
two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be
taken, and one will be left.
42
25 therefore, stay awake! for you do not know on which
day your lord will come.
43
be sure of this: if the master of the house had known
the hour of night when the thief was coming, he would
have stayed awake and not let his house be broken
into.
44
so too, you also must be prepared, for at an hour you
do not expect, the son of man will come.
45 (matthew 24:41).

"and a great sleep fell upon man and man knew it not"

kindly sleeping, trying to wake,

axis




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