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Chris Hamilton
07-28-2004, 03:25 PM
With all the discussion around this, I thought it a great idea to separate these
two, as they really aren't one and the same. Many people equate one with the
other, but they aren't the same. As David said about the magnetic pole:
"As geologist William Hutton points out in ARE Press's book Coming Earth
Changes: The Evidence, it was recently discerned that the inner core of the
Earth is rotating at a faster speed than the outside. This in itself suggests a
more complex interplay of forces in the Earth than we had ascribed to it before.
But what is more important is that this same study also revealed that this
fast-moving inner core has already displaced itself from the angle of rotation
for the outside of the Earth. The inner magnetic poles of the Earth have already
shifted, and are now on a separate angle of tilt! Thus, the inner core of the
Earth could well be setting a precedent for the future position of the outside
as well. As we move towards this new position, Magnetic North continues to drift
more and more quickly in that direction."

http://ascension2000.com/Convergence/99%20pt%2003%20-%20Cotterell.html

However, here are a few definitions of the axial tilt that illustrates magnetic
and pole tilt are not one and the same:

"The Earth's axial tilt varies between 21.5Ãà‚‚Â ° and 24.5Ãà‚‚Â ° with a 41,000 year
periodicity, while the direction of the tilt gradually undergoes precession
Precession is the phenomenon by which the axis of a spinning object "wobbles"
when a torque is applied to it. The phenomenon is commonly seen in a spinning
toy top, but all rotating objects can undergo precession. As a spinning object
precesses, the tilt of its axis goes around in a circle in the opposite
direction that the object is spinning. If the speed of the rotation and the
magnitude ..... Click the link for more information. , moving in a slow circle
over a period of about 25,800 years. However, other factors may change the axial
tilt of Earth (and of other planets). "

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Axial%20tilt

"Axial Tilt: the ecliptic is the plane of the Earth's ellipsoidal orbital path
around the sun; the rotation axis is currently inclined to the ecliptic by an
angle of 23.5 degrees: this is called the obliquity, or tilt, of the axis. It is
this axial tilt that causes our annual seasons. Due to orbital dynamics, the
obliquity varies between a minimum of 21 degs. 39 mins. and a maximum of 24
degs. 36 mins. over a 41,000 year cycle. The axial tilt's rate of change,
(angular differentiation), is currently measured as .013 degs. per century."

http://www.crystalinks.com/poleshifts.html

Now, the first explanation shortened the precession length (25,920 is my
figure), imo, however, these definitions clearly show that a change in tilt is
not necessarily associated with a magnetic shift. In fact, chances are that the
two will operate independently. Which would be more catastrophic? Hmmm, we have
never gone thru a magnetic reversal...maybe some of you have some ideas on
that:) David does too. Maybe you guys can search his site and get some of his
quotes. But, a tilt change, if sudden, would melt ice caps if the tilt decreased
(more upright), and that would be a major earthchange for us to handle. Chris


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srachele2004
07-29-2004, 08:30 AM
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=UytmXYNo213Vmic8MtEGFbYeYyUTXhP7gSIfsD xLTTZTbSaoehcHCohuZxM-dskyN2E2DNs3CEZad3Q), "Chris Hamilton" <chris.hamilton2@v...>
wrote:
But, a tilt change, if sudden, would melt ice caps if the tilt
decreased (more upright), and that would be a major earthchange for us
to handle. Chris

Sal here:
Just a few words of basic science. A magnetic shift appears far more
likely than any kind of physical shift and the reason is that in order
to have a physical shift, there must be a significant change in
momentum. To change a spinning top, it must either 'run down' due to
friction, or be acted on by an outside force. Friction is negligible
in space, so that's out. Unless an asteroid or comet smashes into
Earth (unlikely in the next few thousand years), there is no force on
or off Earth capable of significantly changing the momentum. HOWEVER,
the EM spectrum changes constantly and so a reversal of magnetic
polarity does not need an outside force to flip (as Chris pointed out,
the inner core rotation is a factor). There would be a lot of major
changes if the polarity were reversed, but it would likely NOT mean
the end of civilization -- just a major disruption to communications
and climate (and the resulting economies and lifestyles). Any changes
noticed in the sun's or moon's path would be perceptual based on
changes within us -- or could be our perceiving of higher densities.

--Sal