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Sabine Roelofs
04-26-2004, 12:55 PM
Hey all :)



Although I've still got about 16 pages to go until I've finished "The
Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce", I assembled a couple of quotes from the second
part of the book.



For those of you who haven't got the book, this part deals with David Wilcock's
readings and Ra, who is David's Higher self. Ra is also the entity/social memory
complex who contacted Don Elkins, Carla Rueckert and Jim McCarty (L/L research).



The quotes in this post have something to do with with the subject of Ascension
and other related matters. I basically wrote down whatever grabbed my attention
when I was re-reading the second section of the book.



I know Ascension is coming...no doubt about that in my mind. I am looking
forward to it, but honestly, at the same time there is something I fear about
it. I believe that when the physical body dies, the soul lives on. Yet...for
some reason I keep clinging to the existence that I'm leading right now.



Plus, when it comes down to it, I am afraid of losing my individuality and at
this moment, it's something that I value greatly.



Another thing is that I'm afraid that my Mom and brother will get left behind
when Ascension comes around. I love them deeply and I know that if I ascended I
could still visit them, but it wouldn't be the same.



I was wondering how all of you are viewing Ascension. Is there anything you are
looking forward to or might there also be something that you are afraid of? I
mean...what about your current life wouldn't you like to lose?



L/L



Sabine



The Quotes:



"If you can transcend the attachment to your physical body, then you should
therefore have no fear of death, for death cannot have a grip on you. You would
merely understand that death is a transition, and that you will go on to
something different.

Ponder on these matters, for they will give you greater insight. To
detach yourself from the influences which pervade is a valiant task; it also
involves detaching from dietary choices that are presented to you which are
often of a nature that is very destructive." (p.259)

[Gary posted an excellent assembly of quotes dealing with diets at the files
section of the Asc2k website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asc2k/files/ . The
name of the file is "Not to be Understood Literally - What to Eat"]





"The greatest challenge that you have as a human being is to accept and
integrate the self. And this can occur on many levels. The more important phase
of the journey develops itself through the regeneration of sorts that comes
about with learning and understanding the true core of what sould evolution is
about - namely the self-acceptance in the eyes of the One." (p. 265)





"Do not fail to seperate the personal issues within the self from those
occurring in the world at large, for to do otherwise is not to grasp the full
realm of possibilities that await you." (p.289)



"Because we think with our actions, what it is that we do in our bodies
transforms directly into our thoughts. Therefore, you will be feeling energetics
within the body that correspond to the emotions that were captivating you during
these previous exchanges. As you think about this, remember that the discrete
point of power is always surrounding you in the present moment. Therefore, you
have the opportunity to bless yourself with the grace of recognizing that your
own inhospitable actions in the past were merely part of this great cosmic joke
that all of you will be so heartily laughing about in the next few months or
years, as the case may be." (p.290)



"Gathered together now are its children(scattered throughout the fragments of
space and time, that is), eagerly awaiting your birth and watching you from the
outside. These forces, known to you as the angels, exist outside of the physical
sphere as you know it, but still watch eagerly, awaiting the arrival of the new
birth within each of you. It is from this perspective that you should see the
extraterrestrials in question. There are indeed negative entities, but the vast
majority of those now present upon your sphere seek to counterattack any harm
that would come your way, and work diligently to do so." (p.290)



"You yourselves have never been more aware of the fury of the heavens, and of
its transforming capability for change. As you continue to see weather
distrubances and other Earth Changes scenarios, remember that you yorselves have
created it, so that you might then learn from thine own mistakes, and strive
towards greater love. Realize that the earth is responsible for taking on all
those energies that you would deny, or shunt aside, or raise in anger, rage,
bitterness. These energies must go somewhere, and thus they are transferred into
the Earth." (p.294/295)



"When you question why these things must occur, do your part in halting their
construction. You will discover with great rapidity that they have been
repealed, and the glory that comes into your presence will be unsurpassed."
(p.295)



"Understand that the glory that awaits you is more fantastic than you are
capable of remembering. Also understand that even as a part of you dies to the
oldto be born again into the new, so too will a deeper part of you remember an
unbroken line of continuity in said higher realms. And so, with this new birth
comes the remembrance of the life that was already present. It will be those Ego
selves that you have constructed now that are awed, mystified, and humbled.

To another, deeper part of yourselves, this will be business as
usual, and returning to that which is familiar and comfortable; a realm wherein
thought is instantaneous, and action is concomitant with a system of beliefs
that need not be believed, merely understood and acted upon." (p.295)




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darktemplarssj
04-26-2004, 03:40 PM
> I know Ascension is coming...no doubt about that in my mind. I am
looking forward to it, but honestly, at the same time there is
something I fear about it. I believe that when the physical body
dies, the soul lives on. Yet...for some reason I keep clinging to
the existence that I'm leading right now.
>
Try to think of it not as something "dies" but something "expands" I
think thats a more friendly of a term.
>
>
> Plus, when it comes down to it, I am afraid of losing my
individuality and at this moment, it's something that I value
greatly.
>
>
Ive dealt with this same apprehension myself actually. My solution
to resolve it is to do a large amount of work with the spiritual
body over the next 10 years. I think that in this way I will slowly
vaccinate myself to these fears(and it has begun to work already).
Sometimes I make light of it, I go to a technical college, and I
sometimes refer to what I'm doing as "hacking into heaven"; humor is
a good escape for fear...

If you are strongly afraid about life after death situations you
might want to spend a few years getting proficient in two things.
Remote Viewing: with this you can aparently see almost any situation
after death or that has occured on Earth; or
Astral Projection: direct proof to the ego of the non somatic life
and the reality beyond the grave.

You will probaby as biproduct of learning these things become
confident in your transcendant nature long before honing these
skills to their peak.
>
> Another thing is that I'm afraid that my Mom and brother will get
left behind when Ascension comes around. I love them deeply and I
know that if I ascended I could still visit them, but it wouldn't be
the same.
>
My dad is into the Law of One also, and he has the same thoughts.
But remember, everyone is one, we are always together, if you break
away from anyone you know you should remember that you will re
encounter them in the higher spiritual realms more and more often as
oneness coagulates.
>
>
> I was wondering how all of you are viewing Ascension. Is there
anything you are looking forward to or might there also be something
that you are afraid of? I mean...what about your current life
wouldn't you like to lose?
>
I am looking forward to the awed inspiration that everyone will feel
as the final moments cascade across our world and the veil is ripped
back. It inspires me now because each day that passes is one less
that we have to study before the box is broken down
>
>
> L/L
>
>
>
> Sabine
>
>
>
> The Quotes:
>
>
>
> "If you can transcend the attachment to your physical body, then
you should therefore have no fear of death, for death cannot have a
grip on you. You would merely understand that death is a transition,
and that you will go on to something different.
>
I've often said that death isn't significant to me. Weather I
really believe that deeply is still debaitable but my logic is that
if there is something after death then I will enjoy it and if not
then it was pointless to worry about it anyways.

>
Good Journey
-Dave aka DMW

Tony P.
04-26-2004, 08:33 PM
I don't think ascension or anything means loss of individuality. I
think it's more of a gain of individuality, the true you.

> Plus, when it comes down to it, I am afraid of losing my
individuality and at this moment, it's something that I value
greatly.

Sal Rachele
04-27-2004, 07:23 AM
--- Sabine Roelofs <sabine_r@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=zyik1uSsSEf5-yIspCtDA7IIZjVoV5XVrePfla7RyAsB42Xzbg5_T0UmiBoJsI6 XuvlLVLR1XR5rRw)> wrote:

> I know Ascension is coming...no doubt about that in
> my mind.

Sal here:
Yes, ascension is already underway. Our cells are
changing into 5D as we speak--millions every day until
eventually all 100 trillion cells will vibrate at 5D.
>
Sabine:
> I was wondering how all of you are viewing
> Ascension. Is there anything you are looking forward
> to or might there also be something that you are
> afraid of? I mean...what about your current life
> wouldn't you like to lose?
>
Sal again:
I'm ready. I have very few attachments. I can imagine
being nobody and everybody at the same time.

From the book:
> "Understand that the glory that awaits you is more
> fantastic than you are capable of remembering.

Sal:
I haven't read the book yet, but this is a wonderful
quote. All of us that have been going through
challenging times, let's not forget this!






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Chris Hamilton
04-27-2004, 07:57 PM
> Sal again:
> I'm ready. I have very few attachments. I can imagine
> being nobody and everybody at the same time.

Chris here: I'm kind of butting in here I guess :) I apologize. I love
reading your stuff, but this one comment just brought up a torrent of
thoughts on my part. You had suggested about plopping right away into 5D
vibration, but with the Ra Material, you sort of just skipped 4D. What is
happening to us is that Earth is already in 4D, but our human awareness is
mostly bogged down in 3D still. Sooo, for the few who are aware of this (few
being in relation to the 'many' populous) in that we are aware of the 4D
properties or even the etheric properties in upper 3D. I am thinking you
have been studying some other channelled material that leads you to believe
you are immediately bouncing to 5D?

From the Ra Material, we all end up where our vibrations each fit the best
for us. It is individual, just like snowflakes:) I really don't think 4D is
going to be "nobody and everybody" at the same time, Sal. I think it will be
a time (as RA states we will still have space/time in 4D) where we learn to
value ourselves for our individuality, yet want to work in the collective
for the love that will emanate from all of us. It will not be like becoming
a collective amoeba without a personality:) Individually, we will, instead,
be like each beautiful galaxy Hubble has photographed, with millions of
individual and distinct suns apparent. This is an idea that I believe Ra had
a very hard time conveying to 3D limited viewpoints:) We may combine and
assimilate, but we still retain our uniqueness, just as that single atom is
a part of the whole, it is unique too. I am sorry! I have babbled again:)
Thanks for listening Sal and other selves. Love Chris
>

Jeremy Weiland
04-28-2004, 06:46 AM
Hey Sabine,

> I am looking forward to it, but honestly, at the
> same time there is something I fear about it. I
> believe that when the physical body dies, the soul
> lives on. Yet...for some reason I keep clinging to
> the existence that I'm leading right now.

Well, I'm not *entirely* certain that there's anything
wrong with what you're feeling. For all the research
David and others have done on the physics,
metaphysics, spiritual principles of the Ascension
phenomenon, it's still a *huge* X factor. Nobody
knows for certain what it will be like. It is normal
to be wary of the unknown to a certain degree.

In what way do you feel you are "clinging to
the existence that I'm leading right now"? That, too,
is normal. You are where you are now, and I think the
fact that you appreciate those gifts of friends and
family, and are happy with the situation in general,
is a good thing. My only hope is that you don't let
worrying about some cosmic event trump your current
life.

However, the eventuality of ascension, like the
eventuality of physical death, does give one much to
think about. For all the joys of this life, to
recognize and come to terms with its fleeting nature
is a healthy thing. What I mean to say is that
ascension doesn't present an alternative to the
transient nature of life in 3D - it's always been like
that.

> Plus, when it comes down to it, I am afraid of
> losing my individuality and at this moment, it's
> something that I value greatly.
>
> Another thing is that I'm afraid that my Mom and
> brother will get left behind when Ascension comes
> around. I love them deeply and I know that if I
> ascended I could still visit them, but it wouldn't
> be the same.

This is something I struggled with for a long time as
well, and it still bothers me sometimes. *Who I am*
is very important to me, and maintaining that identity
is vital to any 3D person's sense of self-worth and
experience. However, one thing that somewhat resolved
the issue for me was deciding, once and for all, that
the universe is basically good, and that everything
will work out. If my current 3D identity is indeed
fleeting, then I have two choices: fight in vain
against its fleeting nature, or accept it and have
faith that my experience is innately good. I guess
there's a third option of just worrying about it all
the time without resolving it. ;-)

For me, just realizing that trusting the universe
meant letting go of the need to keep a tight rein on
my identity was quite liberating. I feel confident
that, when Ascension comes, the wisest and most
authentic part of myself will decide where I go next,
and that I am in *perfect* hands. The same goes for
my friends and family: what more could I want for
them, really?

> Is there anything you are looking forward to or
> might there also be something that you are afraid
> of?

Honestly? The thing I most afraid of is not finishing
some of the projects I'm working on... but still,
compared to Ascension, they're kinda petty anyway :-)

I guess while I might have some anxiety about
Ascension, it is only because change bothers humans, I
think. In other words, I don't confuse fear with
loathing.

> I mean...what about your current life
> wouldn't you like to lose?

The potential, however remote, to someday be a rock
star. :-)

And you think I'm kidding...

Love and light,

Jeremy




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Sal Rachele
04-28-2004, 03:50 PM
--- Chris Hamilton <chris.hamilton2@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=nm3Yjzb4t972PxQ5C1dH6U6aOMefzJ8aj8N8XK aIry6J5dQ0U6pSX8r0hANsFIrPoE5MCyS0lVmxCwNVyon-1ct0_G8DEw)>
wrote:
> You had suggested about
> plopping right away into 5D
> vibration, but with the Ra Material, you sort of
> just skipped 4D. What is
> happening to us is that Earth is already in 4D, but
> our human awareness is
> mostly bogged down in 3D still.

Sal here:
Chris, thanks for the input. This is a paradox we are
investigating here. When we are in our center, we
realize we already exist in 5D. In fact, each one of
us has at least 12 dimensions of being. (I know, RA
says 8, which is an excellent model, but I still like
my model of 12 or actually 13 counting the void.)

Our level of vibration corresponds to the composite
total of where we place our attention. Within the
Earthly sphere, most of us are vibrating at a
composite level between 3D and 4D. Using the Hawkins
scale, most of humanity is vibrating a lot lower than
that. I was informed by my higher self and through
muscle testing that my composite vibration is
approximately 4.5.

Obviously, this does not make me better or worse than
anyone else--it just provides a context or road map
for examing one's own vibrations. If ego gets in
there, it will either say, "Look at how good I am" or
"Look how inadequate I am" or some such nonsense.

As multidimensional beings (RAs 8 or my 12 or somebody
else's 'X'), we exist simultaneously in all densities
and dimensions. The variable here is awareness. Where
is our attention? Are we stuck in attachment to the
physical? Are we stuck in our heads? Are we too much
heart and not enough 'gut'? What scripts are we still
playing out that bind us to the realm of karma? Are we
denying our emotional bodies or squelching our
emotional desires based on a belief they are not
'spiritual'? Etc.

The 6D perspective looks lovingly on humanity and does
not judge (IMHO). The STO urge is spontaneous and
natural because we are all One.

Back to your question about popping into 5D: the more
we desire to experience 5D and put our attention
there, the more our overall vibration will move into
5D. Whether this takes a month or 1000 years is
irrelevant since we already exist in 5D and need only
place our awareness there to experience it.

--Sal




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Chris Hamilton
04-29-2004, 01:21 PM
> Sal here:
> Chris, thanks for the input. This is a paradox we are
> investigating here. When we are in our center, we
> realize we already exist in 5D. In fact, each one of
> us has at least 12 dimensions of being. (I know, RA
> says 8, which is an excellent model, but I still like
> my model of 12 or actually 13 counting the void.)

Hi Sal,

I thought you had some other source:)
>
> Sal: Our level of vibration corresponds to the composite
> total of where we place our attention. Within the
> Earthly sphere, most of us are vibrating at a
> composite level between 3D and 4D. Using the Hawkins
> scale, most of humanity is vibrating a lot lower than
> that. I was informed by my higher self and through
> muscle testing that my composite vibration is
> approximately 4.5.

Chris: Can you explain this "muscle testing"? I am sure many of us
would be interested where we vibrate, and if this method seems to be a
noteworthy to determine this. Does it correlate, if you know, with tuning
the chakras and especially the heart chakra?
>
Sal: As multidimensional beings (RAs 8 or my 12 or somebody
> else's 'X'), we exist simultaneously in all densities
> and dimensions. The variable here is awareness.

Chris: That is a good point, and also why I am worrying about the number of
levels anyway:) Numbers being a human thing anyway, it's our 3D part that
wants to know all of this anyway.

Sal: Back to your question about popping into 5D: the more
> we desire to experience 5D and put our attention
> there, the more our overall vibration will move into
> 5D. Whether this takes a month or 1000 years is
> irrelevant since we already exist in 5D and need only
> place our awareness there to experience it.

Chris: That is interesting, however, I still believe that there is more to
attaining a particular soul deveplopement than just 'desiring' it. We must
still experience so that our vibration can increase. We can't just be wise
in 5D without having experienced love (or non-love) experiencies in the 4th
vibratory field. I think possibly your inner definition of 4th and 5th
density may be different than Ra's? I would be interested in your
definitions. Good talking to you Sal.

Sal Rachele
04-30-2004, 07:50 AM
--- Chris Hamilton <chris.hamilton2@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=tgPq9_FvmoV7JH1yfdf3XvjXfegaBQTlfqqw9n dJHbheA2RsFrZWM8FnAvcpQThjr3mYtGv6D1P5nXxagjun14Wz UxY1)>
wrote:
> Can you explain this "muscle testing"? I am
> sure many of us would be interested where we
vibrate,

Sal here:
I do not use muscle testing very often, but it is
sometimes a useful barometer for things the conscious
mind may not be aware of. I recommend you do the
following:

Stand erect and hold out your strongest arm. Ask that
all information come from God Source and be used for
the highest good. Now state something that is
obviously true, and push down on your outstretched arm
(with your other hand). Note the strength and
resistance to the push. Now state something that is
obviously false and do the same thing. This time your
outstretched arm should go weak and be an easy push.

Now ask a yes/no question pertaining to your life
path, soul direction, diet, health, etc.

David Hawkins and others use and refine these
techniques and know a lot more about kinesiology than
I do, so you should consult them if you want more
information. (Sorry, I don't have David Hawkin's
website handy.)

> Chris: That is interesting, however, I still believe
> that there is more to
> attaining a particular soul deveplopement than just
> 'desiring' it.

Sal:
Absolutely, Chris. If it were that easy, we'd all be
there already. There's a lot of self-discipline and
study that goes into this for most of us. That's why
we have groups like asc2k and countless self-help
books and techniques, such as David's Convergence
series and the work of Ra, Cayce and others. However,
the more we focus our attention on our 5D selves, the
more we are drawn to those experiences that accelerate
our evolution into 5D. Sometimes, those experiences
involve going back and healing aspects of self that
vibrate in 3D and 4D.

--Sal




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