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Michael.Vogt@...
04-19-2004, 10:34 AM
hello fellow humanoids.
thank you all very much for the enlightening information being shared in
this forum. been lurking for a few weeks and have thoroughly enjoyed the
input.
i don't want to bore you with personal info except that i'm an ex-mormon.
upon reading the ra material that focused on the orion group something came
to me that floored me. maybe it's nothing special to most of you but it sure
left an impression on me.
having been deeply immersed in the mormon religion for many years after
which i finally realized that this wasn't my cup of tea i resigned my
membership and am now a much happier individual.
the oppression and enslavement to the system have and always will be the
prerequisite of membership. as you may know the orion bunch specializes in
the enslaving of earthlings. they prey on the weaker-minded thereby gaining
more control over the individuals who are the targets of enslavement.
the characters 'mormon' and 'moroni' play a big part in the establishment of
the mormon faith. it is my opinion that entities from orion actually visited
the founder of the religion under false pretenses. i can't recall whether
it's 5th or 6th negative entities that can appear as angels of light but
nevertheless it is possible.
what made me realize the possible connection is the names of the "prophets"
mormon and moroni.
delete the "m's" in mormon, leaving oron and simply inserting an "i" would
spell orion. with moroni, delete the "m" and move the "i" to it's
appropriate location and another orion pops up.
maybe i'm just blowing smoke, but to me it makes sense.
i'll go back to lurking now. thanks for your time.
"it's all good!!"
mike
Sal Rachele
04-21-2004, 07:33 AM
--- michael.vogt@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=iqw9wn4ccqc-nsmqcvgucsidyx9dsnj-z8j81fo7jl1a7toobavfjkolelwex0xn5x1xmgzm9q21t1umzi qq) wrote:
> as you may know the
> orion bunch specializes in
> the enslaving of earthlings.
sal here:
over the past 500,000 years, the orions have been the
number one group controlling humans. nearly 80% of
humanity has orion genetic strains. the other cohorts
are sirians, reptilians and greys (from various star
systems including zeta reticuli).
the orions are broken mostly into two factions, the
rigelians and betelguesans (coined words, of course).
the councils of rigel are the warrior-like aggressive
strain, and the councils of beteguese are more
peaceful, light-oriented. they have battled over
control of earth for millenia. the council of
betelguese were the original illuminati when it truly
meant "illumined ones." when the council of rigel took
over, the illuminati became corrupted and that is what
we have today. both orion factions represented
polarized light (duality) and that is why this
situation has never been resolved. the solution is to
transcend duality and live in the oneness of the
infinite creator.
more on all this at a later time.
--sal
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James Holmes
04-21-2004, 10:18 AM
hello sal, et al,
do you have references for this information?
tia.
jim
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from: sal rachele [mailto:srachele2004@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=jwmyige3t951h6ewq_b_ssf2i93k5s5fcja7fv stvwosn67psitlx7wpt7nmd14lpamw6cjkttz1skpvwwiq)]
sent: wednesday, april 21, 2004 8:33 am
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subject: re: [asc2k] greetings from utah
--- michael.vogt@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=qrcw-8ld0ykfmxur2lvy0ct4wle8ntrcieqkg4nehpbejheqn11yxxb jaswfrpv6aq11bhpirh1axh4fccgtrg) wrote:
> as you may know the
> orion bunch specializes in
> the enslaving of earthlings.
sal here:
over the past 500,000 years, the orions have been the
number one group controlling humans. nearly 80% of
humanity has orion genetic strains. the other cohorts
are sirians, reptilians and greys (from various star
systems including zeta reticuli).
Sal Rachele
04-23-2004, 03:12 PM
--- james holmes <amitoo@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=_y7rn1q1s7taaw7tqcdj3qvokkao3ccdshp1ff c1yicsyklhxmpzf3yrqj9gg8k3utp1yfkham1q)> wrote regarding
the orion/sirian control of earth:
> hello sal, et al,
>
> do you have references for this information?
>
sorry, jim, i do not. this is from direct telepathic
transmission, automatic writing and higher self feed.
you will find, however, that it correlates with
numerous other 'channeled' writings, at least in bits
and pieces.
when i have more time, i'll dive into this further and
possibly provide some other sources that back this up.
thanks for the question.
--sal
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James Holmes
04-24-2004, 07:46 AM
hi sal,
it does indeed correlate with a lot of information from widely diverse
sources.
please send me any material you wish to share, from whatever source. thank
you much for the original post.
you may find www.trufax.org to have correlating information. the book
offered there, matrix 5 gold edition, is my benchmark for a lot of this
stuff. i think to be very worthwhile.
jim
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from: sal rachele [mailto:srachele2004@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=gmxpb3w3_mmvzpqbtnpegj997et0okcilojhui il7_iobgwz0ex566hvwjl-z098kisnrmxmx5mdsdro-a)]
sent: friday, april 23, 2004 4:13 pm
to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=ts4lbairvw7cnnszzhh471kj2z3vvn584chvkj 8qflpcod25cg0x2woqatjtaftry6pagtkts_lb2_jj)
subject: re: [asc2k] greetings from utah
--- james holmes <amitoo@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=uamz-xw6u_d1s6-smuwhl2zjlkk61c3r6knxirjcdomurd92btaedvsblva2vqllq lcgjr24hg2j)> wrote regarding
the orion/sirian control of earth:
> hello sal, et al,
>
> do you have references for this information?
>
sorry, jim, i do not. this is from direct telepathic transmission, automatic
writing and higher self feed. you will find, however, that it correlates
with numerous other 'channeled' writings, at least in bits and pieces.
when i have more time, i'll dive into this further and
possibly provide some other sources that back this up.
thanks for the question.
--sal
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Sal Rachele
04-26-2004, 04:24 PM
--- james holmes <amitoo@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=dmuikerguzuamc0jgk-dutiq2z7m2q2wvws_ptecjwxtlbjdgpa5qg6tl7rnmhxfz7mta 4_2m4fp)> wrote:
> you may find http://www.trufax.org to have
> correlating information. the book offered there,
> matrix 5 gold edition, is my benchmark for a lot
> of this stuff. i think to be very worthwhile.
>
> jim
sal here:
yes, jim, i'm aware of trufax.org. i like the site a
lot. as for the book, it's quite expensive so i
haven't ordered it, but i've read excerpts that are
quite interesting.
i'm somewhat intrigued by the part where he says that
same-sex unions represent a higher order of awareness.
although i am heterosexual, i have met many very aware
people who feel same-sex bonds (mostly women).
the et information seems quite accurate, imho. val
valerian was one of the early contactees going way
back. his interaction was with what he called
venusians. this is likely correct. perhaps some day
when i feel like shelling out 60 bucks, i'll read the
book.
--sal
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James Holmes
04-28-2004, 01:33 PM
hello sal,
re:
"i'm somewhat intrigued by the part where he says that
same-sex unions represent a higher order of awareness."
my understanding is a bit different; i think val says this indicates a
lessening of the dna behavior control modifications in that person; less
body control and more spirit control of the total being.
i accept all of that stuff about the division of the ancient earthers into
sexes by the bad guys way back there in time, but i still do not understand
the law, "like attracts like" in the context of polarities. north magnetic
poles repel north poles. connect batteries plus to plus and neg to neg and
there is no current except for the adjustment in the differences between the
charge state of the batteries.
it seems to me there will be an attraction based on similar energies, but
complementary. nonetheless, i accept val's explanation based on his superior
experience. i am not sexually attracted to men, tho i would have no problem
having a relationship with a man if i were so inclined.
most of the gays i have known seem to be as varied as the hets in their
ability to maintain a long-term caring relationship.
i have never read any of val's contactee experiences; only his astral [and
beyond] oob experiences.
i think under an enlightened social and medical structure, people would be
generally a lot freer with their sexual behavior.
later,
jim
-----original message-----
from: sal rachele [mailto:srachele2004@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=rnmhrdpccakid2m5zpr2ji1idazeeyk_3bsmfq 8wmak2tc211pqx4udu4edlmdrle_xkkk2cakzngzbn)]
sent: monday, april 26, 2004 5:25 pm
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subject: re: [asc2k] greetings from utah
--- james holmes <amitoo@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=tzqezua3ztp2_xiwg8esbigynf77g6pemoizte kjsgrdreob3sqdj2112dsucxf0eqd3ii5qnshc55j5iq)> wrote:
> you may find http://www.trufax.org to have
> correlating information. the book offered there,
> matrix 5 gold edition, is my benchmark for a lot
> of this stuff. i think to be very worthwhile.
>
> jim
sal here:
yes, jim, i'm aware of trufax.org. i like the site a
lot. as for the book, it's quite expensive so i
haven't ordered it, but i've read excerpts that are
quite interesting.
[non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Sal Rachele
04-28-2004, 04:11 PM
--- james holmes <amitoo@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=p3almagu8wmtnhxqyvdplgngyrzpmbimdhxeuc zmprrrb0xwktdsihmmgm7ion6dipnsbo1ru7k6fw)> wrote:
> i think val says this indicates a
> lessening of the dna behavior control modifications
> in that person; less
> body control and more spirit control of the total
> being.
sal here:
yes, jim, i think that's a big part of the equation.
we are conditioned to believe we must unite with a
member of the opposite sex and live happily ever
after. on the other hand, most oversoul groups split
into six pairs of male-female 'twin flames'. since
everything is polarized in the 3d-4d continuum,
opposites attract as a way of evolving back into
balance. the union experienced between male and female
is a transcendent state (in the ultimate sense).
however, most gays and lesbians, in order to reach a
high level of self and other-acceptance, have had to
break out of the limiting beliefs of society (to a
large extent), and this extricating of themselves from
society's beliefs is a very positive step forward in
the evolution of the soul, imho. this obviously does
not mean same-sex marriage, etc., is right or wrong.
if it feels right to the individuals, it is probably
right, and vice versa. however, many of us do not
follow our inner guidance if our beliefs are contrary
to what we feel inside.
so if someone is attracted to same-sex but believes it
is wrong, or conversely, if someone attracted to
opposite-sex has been deeply hurt in relationships,
these experiences may become obstacles to the soul's
free self-expression.
i haven't read the entirety of val's book, but i like
your explanation, jim.
--sal
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