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czblake@...
09-04-2001, 07:08 AM
--- in asc2k@y..., jonna <jonnabradley@y...> wrote:
>
> it would seem as if we're expected to pull our cart ahead of our horse.
> wouldn't we be losing a grand experience in the doing? aren't we here to
> "experience"?

no, jonna. we are here only to find god, to go the path of return and to rejoin
with the arc of divine evolution, the true evolution, from which this mankind
fell long ago. that is where the glorious adventure of life begins. all lesser
experience in and of the illusion is suffering. why? because it is not true.

there is no true evolution or learning in the fallen universe, only development
of the illusion in the collective luciferic (i.e., undivine) mind. this has also
been called the 'wheel of birth and death'. note that it is a 'wheel', not a
spiral, as is the true evolution in god.

absolutely everything in the fallen universe is false, an illusion, but a poor
reflection of the divine universe.

every sage has averred this fact and has endeavoured to inspire fallen humanity
to fond god. and to know god is to love god, never the experiences of the
illusion, the great lie.

David Wilcock
09-04-2001, 09:28 AM
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><font size="2"><span class="360314715-04092001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff">[david wilcock]for the benefit of those who don't have a dictionary handy, the unfamiliar word "sophistic" means, "plodding, obscure, arcane and dull," and recently s referred tothe ra material as being such.it is fine to be a list participant and have a dissenting opinion; the only person i've ever actually blocked so far was a solicitor of explicit materials. the point, which has just a second ago come in from steve devries, is this:</font></span></font>
><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="360314715-04092001"></span></font>
><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="360314715-04092001">the physical david wilcock and my associates in the terrestrial and higher realms have always presented this information because it works for us. it is a system of philosophy that we make available to people without advertising or proselytizing. everyone joined this list by their own free will - and most importantly, they joined because they have accepted our perspective enough to want to engage in intelligent discussion with others regarding it. they did not join the list thinking that the material is seriously flawed and expecting someone else to come along and shatter it to pieces. so far, in every case where others have come along and attempted to do this, they are unilaterally opposed and / or ignored.</span></font>
><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="360314715-04092001"></span></font>
><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="360314715-04092001">s indicated that the true paths of taoism and buddhism are much higher than ra's teachings. our associate dr. mandelker (ph.d. east-west psychology,) has studied taoism and buddhism extensively, both professionally and privately, and has come up with the conclusion that the full five-book law of one series is in absolute alignment with these traditions and gives invaluable perspective on the path to return to full unity. he has never hidden his identity and has never tried to force others to believe the way that he believes. this was most poignantly seen in his appearance on coast to coast with mike siegel whena fundamentalist christian came on the air and tried to attack his views. dr. mandelker said, "well, i can see that you know everything you need to know, so i really have nothing more to add to that." there he ended it. </span></font>
><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="360314715-04092001"></span></font>
><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span class="360314715-04092001">those who read the law of one series have a firm belief in the idea that free will is the most important thing that must be preserved. that means that you dispassionately present information and it is up to eache person whether to accept or reject it. our perspective is made clear in our primary statements from our time of global shift seminar business plan:</span></font>
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><span class="360314715-04092001"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><u><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: garamond; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><font color="#0000ff"><font face="arial"><font size="2">values<xml:namespace prefix="o" ns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"></xml:namespace><o:p></o:p></font></font></font></span></u>[/b]
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-right: 22.3pt"><span style="font-family: garamond"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">honesty and integrity
</font></span><span style="font-family: garamond"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">breadth of vision
</font></span><span style="font-family: garamond"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">respect for individual decision
</font></span><span style="font-family: garamond"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">care for earth and humanity
</font></span><span><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">optimism and good will

</font><u><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">vision
</font></u></span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 12pt; font-family: garamond; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">
<font face="arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">to integrate science, prophecy and ufo research,<span class="360314715-04092001"></span><span class="360314715-04092001">to increase undersatndingof the current global shift and support personal transformation.</span></font></font></font></span></p>
<p class="msobodytextindent" style="margin: 0in 22.3pt 0pt 0in; text-indent: 0in; tab-stops: 436.5pt"><span><u><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">mission
</font></u></span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 12pt; font-family: garamond; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">
<font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">to develop and present an evolving set of accessible resources </font></span><span><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">and interactive communications worldwide.

</font><u><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">statement
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<font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">"we believe earth today is on the verge of a critical transformation in </font></span><span style="font-family: garamond"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">both its physical form and energy body -- a shift long-predicted by seers.</font></span><font color="#0000ff"><span style="font-family: garamond"><font face="arial"><font size="2">
<span class="360314715-04092001"></span></font></font></span></font></p>
<p class="msobodytextindent" style="margin: 0in 22.3pt 0pt 0in; text-indent: 0in; tab-stops: 436.5pt"><font face="arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span style="font-family: garamond">"we believe the shift marks the end of a major cycle of human evolution, and the start<span class="360314715-04092001"><font face="arial"></font></span><span class="360314715-04092001">of a radically new phase of worldcivilization.</span></span><span style="font-family: garamond"><span class="360314715-04092001"></span></span></font></font></font></p>
<p class="msobodytextindent" style="margin: 0in 22.3pt 0pt 0in; text-indent: 0in; tab-stops: 436.5pt"><font face="arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span style="font-family: garamond"><span class="360314715-04092001"></span></span></font></font></font></p>
<p class="msobodytextindent" style="margin: 0in 22.3pt 0pt 0in; text-indent: 0in; tab-stops: 436.5pt"><font size="2"><font face="arial"><font color="#0000ff"><span style="font-family: garamond"><span class="360314715-04092001"></span></span><span style="font-family: garamond">"and yet, we each have the freedom to choose how we will participate in this shift -- </span></font><span style="font-family: garamond"><font color="#0000ff">for despite the grandeur of the time, the key to personal responsibility is quite simple.</font></span></font></font><font color="#0000ff"><span style="font-family: garamond"><font size="2"><font face="arial">
<span class="360314715-04092001"></span></font></font></span></font></p>
<p class="msobodytextindent" style="margin: 0in 22.3pt 0pt 0in; text-indent: 0in; tab-stops: 436.5pt"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span style="font-family: garamond">"the greatest contribution we can make is to simply express our true spiritual nature: </span></font><font color="#0000ff"><span style="font-family: garamond"><font size="2"><font face="arial">basic human kindness, open heart and mind, and the desire to build a loving world culture.
<span class="360314715-04092001"></span></font></font></span></font></p>
<p class="msobodytextindent" style="margin: 0in 22.3pt 0pt 0in; text-indent: 0in; tab-stops: 436.5pt"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><font face="arial"><span style="font-family: garamond">"in essence, we see the universe now holding open a door to our greater destiny --<span class="360314715-04092001"></span></span><span style="font-family: garamond">yet only we ourselves, each one of us, can choose to walk through it…"<o:p></o:p></span></font></font></font></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-right: 22.3pt; text-align: center" align="center"><span style="font-family: tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: 'times new roman'"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><o:p></o:p></font></span></p></span>
><font face="arial" size="2"><span class="360314715-04092001">it is my understanding that those on this list agree with the above points - so now we can let the jury speak. any work that has an inflexible attitude won't be linked on the website. </span></font>
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><font face="arial" size="2"><span class="360314715-04092001">peace be with you -</span></font>
><font face="arial" size="2"><span class="360314715-04092001"></span></font>
><font face="arial" size="2"><span class="360314715-04092001">- david</span></font>
><span class="360314715-04092001"></span>
><font size="2"><span class="360314715-04092001"></span>from: czblake@hotmail.com [mailto:czblake@hotmail.com]
</font></font><tt>--- in asc2k@y..., jonna <jonnabradley@y...> wrote:
>
> it would seem as if we're expected to pull our cart ahead of our horse.
> wouldn't we be losing a grand experience in the doing? aren't we here to
> "experience"?

no, jonna. we are here only to find god, to go the path of return and to rejoin with the arc of divine evolution, the true evolution, from which this mankind fell long ago. that is where the glorious adventure of life begins. all lesser experience in and of the illusion is suffering. why? because it is not true.

there is no true evolution or learning in the fallen universe, only development of the illusion in the collective luciferic (i.e., undivine) mind. this has also been called the 'wheel of birth and death'. note that it is a 'wheel', not a spiral, as is the true evolution in god.

absolutely everything in the fallen universe is false, an illusion, but a poor reflection of the divine universe.

every sage has averred this fact and has endeavoured to inspire fallen humanity to fond god. and to know god is to love god, never the experiences of the illusion, the great lie.



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glen main
09-04-2001, 05:52 PM
czblake@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=mr73ttf-xd8gryh_grqiivjorhbauswbyddybm_ityj5mgycgxrjkabfpm p27xyirgpipeltinx0vxzw) wrote:

> --- in asc2k@y..., jonna <jonnabradley@y...> wrote:
> >
> > it would seem as if we're expected to pull our cart ahead of our horse.
> > wouldn't we be losing a grand experience in the doing? aren't we here to
> > "experience"?
>
> no, jonna. we are here only to find god, to go the path of return and to
rejoin with the arc of divine evolution, the true evolution, from which this
mankind fell long ago. that is where the glorious adventure of life begins. all
lesser experience in and of the illusion is suffering. why? because it is not
true.

since you have found god, why are you stil here?
pulleeezzz....dont say it is to help me find your way.

>
>
> there is no true evolution or learning in the fallen universe, only
development of the illusion in the collective luciferic (i.e., undivine) mind.
this has also been called the 'wheel of birth and death'. note that it is a
'wheel', not a spiral, as is the true evolution in god.

hmmm......then why do we keep repeating the course until we learn?

>
>
> absolutely everything in the fallen universe is false, an illusion, but a poor
reflection of the divine unive

i was gonna comment on this, but i thouught it over and decided you were most
likely correct.

>

>
>
> every sage has averred this fact and has endeavoured to inspire fallen
humanity to fond god. and to know god is to love god, never the experiences of
the illusion, the great lie.

my great lie has been pretty good. learning is neat. ;)

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sol72us@...
09-04-2001, 11:11 PM
for power to be truly great
it must remain inwardly united
with the fundamental principles
of right and justice.

wu wei's comment:
the inferior person, concerned only for his own
well being and pleasure, uses his power to further
his own selfish ends and to cause hurt and trouble
for others. this is degenerative use of power and
bodes ill for everyone, particularly the wielder of
the power. the superior person, concerned with the
principles of right and justice, uses his power
to aid others and improve the general welfare.
this bodes well for everyone, particularly the wielder
of the power.

from
i ching wisdom
guidance from the book of changes
by wu wei
power press, 1994

from the publishers note:
the author... wu wei (pronounced woo way),
whose name means "no thing"(nothing) wishes to remain unknown,
preferring that the ancient chinese wisdom speak for itself.




--- in asc2k@y..., "david wilcock" <djw333@e...> wrote:
> [david wilcock]
> values
> honesty and integrity
> breadth of vision
> respect for individual decision
> care for earth and humanity
> optimism and good will
>
> vision
>
> to integrate science, prophecy and ufo research, to increase
undersatnding
> of the current global shift and support personal transformation.
>
> mission
>
> to develop and present an evolving set of accessible resources and
> interactive communications worldwide.
>
> statement
>
> "we believe earth today is on the verge of a critical
transformation in both
> its physical form and energy body -- a shift long-predicted by
seers.
>
>
> "we believe the shift marks the end of a major cycle of human
evolution, and
> the start of a radically new phase of world civilization.
>
>
> peace be with you -
>
> - david
>