czblake@...
09-04-2001, 02:12 AM
>>dw: once i fulfill my perceived dharma with the completion of
>>convergence iii i can spend more time focusing on the adept's path.
>s:you might like to consider that the path of the adept is a natural
>way of life that affects all the adepts activities; it includes a
>permanent and unwavering attitude of consecration rather than
>something one intends to do in the future.
dw: yes - that feeds directly into what i understand to be the heart
of seventh-density teachings, or what you have essentially said as
being the "only ascension that really matters" and that you feel is
the only way to escape some future third-density incarnation. it is
definitely worth my while to see the completion of this project, with
all the intrinsic difficulties of the intellect that have been
presented, as being the adept's path in and of itself, instead of
being a hurdle that must be cleared prior to taking on such a path.
i've already been very intently focused and recent events have
dramatically enhanced that.
s:well and good, david. we should all do just what inspires us most.
dw: side tangent: personally my understanding of ra's teachings,
which i trust, is that the choice of polarity made in third-density
is what all future development hinges upon, but as long as the choice
is either above 50% service to others or above 95% service to self,
harvest into the next density is possible. you seem to agree with
this, but also have the idea that it's not enough and your "homework"
in 3d hasn't really been finished in such a case.
s:there are only two ways to leave this illusory world, david, both
of which involve corporeal dissolution.
one way - which is not ascension and so which does not result in
liberation from the fallen universe - is to simply drop dead in the
very common manner that is experienced by most human beings on earth.
this means that transfiguration has not been attained and so some
future physical incarnation will be required in order to fulfill the
requirements of the path and to fully transmute all karma. jesus, the
prototypical man, demonstrated the requirement for attainment of the
final liberation perfectly in his symbolical life.
the second way - which is true ascension - is to partake in the
rapture, or 'lifting up'. that is to say, to completely disappear
from the fallen universe altogether by way of the receipt of grace
and the resulting transfiguration of all the lower vehicles of
consciousness, rather like the party did at the end of james
redfield's 'celestine prophecy'.
dw: my interpretation of ra's teachings is that they give no
indication of there being a need for further third-density
incarnations to graduate from fifth into sixth or sixth into seventh,
especially due to the fact that you are now talking about entire
planets' worth of beings like us that have fused into a collective.
s:do bear in mind, david, that ra was/is not a divine being. that is
to say he/they have not yet attained the crown of life: christ
consciousness. there are higher more true teachings available in this
world than those of ra.
the truest expressions in the ra material are sophistic compared to
pure gnosis.
in order to come to a true understanding of what ascension really is
and how to realise it (not to acquire it, for divinity already exists
in all its perfection), a whole new way of thinking and seeing must
be employed. for there is no such thing as a separate soul that can
be harvested or who can ascend. therefore the ra material is quite
misleading in its conceptual expressions, and does not compare very
favourably with, say, pure buddhism or taoism, which is pure gnosis.
the above may, of course be quite upsetting for many on this list and
worldwide who swear by the ra material. however, wisdom requires not
a book for its over-standing, and as long as there is any attachment
or recourse to a book, a teaching or a teacher; as long as one knows
only *about* the law of one (conceptual under-standing) but does not
truly know it by coming into a binding with tao, one is not going to
ascend.
therefore, why not seek wisdom itself, directly? only then will you
know the truth and so be able to really teach and help others.
dw:that one aspect of your teachings could be very discouraging to
potential aspirants, as it would appear that unless they go all the
way, which in many cases is near-impossible with the inherent
catalysts of the incarnative process, (such as a woman having been
molested as a child, etc., and concomitant personality distortions)
you're basically telling them that they'll have to go back to "hell"
in 3d again. considering how few people are said to be potentially
able to make the above-50% sto harvest into 4d, suggesting that they
must be at unity / divine contact level of consciousness is to trim
the numbers down to probably no more than a few thousand at very
best. and these people, if attaining that level, could then
basically harvest themselves whenever they wished and could do any
number of formidable miracles including bodily teleportation, etc.,
as did jesus. (ra says that only 120 people were even ready for 4d
harvest at the end of the second cycle, some 25,000 years ago... so
how many could have gone to the 7d level based on that?)
s:this is why the true teaching of the avataras has ever been kept
secret from all but those who were ready to receive and apply it
intelligently.
however, at the end of an age such as that we now live in, the
descent of grace is very great. in this particular end of a major
world cycle, the "christ will come in power", meaning that the degree
of the descent of grace is utterly unprecedented for this planet.
however. "at the time of the end many will be led astray." - biblical
prophecy.
below is a pertinent discussion with a spiritual teacher who, rather
like yourself, was focusing on a lower level than the goal of life
itself:
from a spiritual teacher: "i find your teachings to be of such an
elevated level that only initiates could possibly follow them. we
still live in a world where most people are being solicited with
brainwashing techniques that derive their power from the ego. and
because of this fallen state, many are unable to discern rightly
between the laws of ignorance and the law of one. it is this
confusion that has paralysed the outer man/old man from accessing the
inner man/new man, i.e., the christed one. because of the multi-
perceptions that penetrate earthly consciousness in the darkness
here and now with overload material, few are able to separate the
wheat from the tears, and because of this a great lack remains. so
let us be patient with all, even though the time heralded is
approaching, realising that each one's growth must manifest, as you
rightly know, from within. and until this deliverance occurs, many
will remain swayed by the law of duality, of good and evil, unable to
perceive the higher order of things."
tf: we understand what you say and why, and to a degree we are in
concurrence. however, may we suggest that the unprecedented degree of
today's grace is being very much underestimated by the vast majority
of people in the world due to *what they believe*. if we believe that
we are not worthy to attain liberation (the true harvest), then even
a thousand buddhas cannot help us. however, where there is true faith
and righteously-motivated supplication to the divine spirit in self-
forgetfulness and selfless service to the one life in all, then we
should indeed expect to behold a major personal 'miracle' in these
times. do not doubt it, and with love and respect always, please
beware of spreading such doubt in the minds of others, even tacitly
in thought.
"if doubt and fear should stop us in the middle of the road, we would
hear only ridicule from the voices of the night, but if we reach the
mountain peak bravely we shall join the heavenly spirits in songs of
triumph and joy." - kahlil gibran.
"behold the great key-keeper of the age has turned the key; the
mighty gates fly wide and all who will may greet the king. blessed
are the pure in heart, for they shall see the king. take heed! be
strong in mind; be pure in heart; be vigilant in helpfulness; the
kingdom is at hand." - jesus.
jesus' above assurance given 2,000 years ago is even more relevant to
today's forthcoming event, for as you know, history repeats itself,
and today the aquarian passion play is a worldwide development.
please note that jesus does not say: "blessed are those who have
reached initiate status, for they shall see the king." no. the
equation is a rather more simple and definitely more benevolent one
in these remarkable times; indeed, it is unprecedented for earth.
such grace has never before approached this planet.
please let me explain further, for it is so vital that we come to
appreciate what is being offered us in these times. the emergence of
the aquarian christine consciousness in many around the world today
is a tremendous act of compassion by servers of the divine plan, many
of whom are christ-hierophants, though still veiled from the eyes of
most, and who are right now offering to take the majority of
humanity's karma onto their own shoulders and to transmute it. this
can only be done, of course, with the consent of humanity itself.
such consent must take the form of willingness, faith and surrender.
it can certainly not happen in disbelief or feelings of unworthiness.
christ loves us all equally; initiates, aspirants, alcoholics,
prostitutes and yes, even your much-written-about 'shadowlords'
themselves! it is, of course, only through love (and intelligent
will) that these wayward brothers of shadow may be conquered, never
by antagonism. for let us not forget that they are still our
brothers, even though lost for ages in the darkest night. love
conquers all. to withhold love from any being in the universe is to
vivify the illusion of separation and ultimately to become ourselves
like the brothers of shadow.
now, if your own beloved children proved to you that they would
repent and reform, would you not wish to immediately relieve them of
their prison-sentence and deliver them safely back home? how much
more, then, would the love of christ do for his lost children? these
words are not born of a whimsical or utopian dream; they are derived
from remembrance of the plan for this stage of earth and mankind's
spiritual progress. if ours were not such incredibly special times,
why then would all the various prophecies (and there are so many) be
pointing toward this very moment, and why all the celestial,
extraterrestrial and ultraterrestrial attention upon earth? do we
really know so much about infinity to be bold enough to declare that
a certain thing is impossible?
you may have some difficulty in accepting this next statement to
begin with, but a fallen soul may reach the minimum vibratory level
required for harvest in these times in the twinkling of an eye. such
is the gravity and wondrous opportunity that is being offered to
everyone today, without exception, and such is the overwhelming and
impersonal love and compassion of the aquarian christ. if
this 'miracle' were not possible, then the christ would not be here
on earth, for christ is no unintelligent and wishful thinker!
the only reason that human beings may not see the king in these "end
times" is because they choose not to repent and to walk the path. the
only reason that human beings will experience the grace of christ as
terrible, destructive and not liberating and blessed is because they
choose to remain selfish and spiritually inert. it is all just a
matter of choice.
in order to derive a clearer appreciation of the veracity of
humanity's glorious opportunity today courtesy of the ineffable
intelligence and love of christ, we could compare mankind's present
situation with that of an earthly school. humanity - the children in
the school - have, of course, during their studies over the past
training period, not been performing too well! in the earlier stages
of their school-years the end-of-term examinations were relatively
difficult, and most earthbound pupils of life failed to make the
grade. hence they had to re-sit the examination at the end of the
following term. however, come the end of a major term of training at
school, the headmaster (christ) decides to lighten the load of the
pupils by assisting them all on an unparalleled level. in other
words, the headmaster concedes to take a large part of the end-of-
term examination himself in order that more of his beloved pupils may
graduate, at least to the next grade, if not all the way to
professorship! the taking of part of the examination by the
headmaster does not remove the need for the pupils to learn their own
lessons, for this is an immutable universal law, the law of cause and
effect. it merely corrects their mistakes, as it were, in a very
deliberate and conclusive way. the correcting of mistakes is
analogous to the removal of karma in order that the pupils'
previously-scaled eyes may again regard the school's syllabus with
clear perception and appreciation of its purpose and value, while
simultaneously being promoted to the next level. this is not a free
promotion, of course; the christine intervention just makes things
very much easier to ascend in consciousness. it is thus that the new
humanity will be born in the new world.
finally, it may well be that you and, of course, many others like you
have incarnated to contribute a 'lower' (not lesser) stone in the one
pyramidal work of world redemption. without the lower and foundation
stones, the capstone work cannot be completed, and without the
capstone, the foundation work of the pyramid is useless. we need one
another, for it is now time for all the building blocks that
constitute the new world pyramid to consciously and intelligently
collaborate. it is time to know about one another on the physical
plane and to work together as one for the greatest good of all. we
have recognised you and your particular pyramid stone; have you yet
recognised ours?
let us now all go out into the quarry together. there is much
building work to be done, but in looking up and out in the same
direction, many hands, heads and hearts make light work. only in
divine synergy may we know victory.
[fin.]
so you see, david, the only reason that souls will not attain the
final liberation at the end of this cycle, full of grace, is due to
the fact that they are choosing not to look to the one goal itself:
transfiguration or deliverance. compromise along hte path never led
anyone home.
complex intellectual teachings such as the ra material actually serve
to complicate the simple truth with ideas such as catalyst,
densities, races, polarities, etc., etc., and "as a man thinketh, so
is he".
dw: i know that you base this concept from a buddha quote, but that
very well could be based upon the fact that the only way to escape
reincarnation during those times was to have a 7d ascension. now that
we are at the end of a cycle, the rules are different. just because
someone has work to do doesn't mean they can't do it in higher
densities, in my opinion. it seems to be a rather rigid and
unflexible viewpoint to think that every being must be forced to go
through 7d awakening in 3d in order to return to timelessness and
unity.
s:seek, with your heart (not just the head) and you will surely find.
>>convergence iii i can spend more time focusing on the adept's path.
>s:you might like to consider that the path of the adept is a natural
>way of life that affects all the adepts activities; it includes a
>permanent and unwavering attitude of consecration rather than
>something one intends to do in the future.
dw: yes - that feeds directly into what i understand to be the heart
of seventh-density teachings, or what you have essentially said as
being the "only ascension that really matters" and that you feel is
the only way to escape some future third-density incarnation. it is
definitely worth my while to see the completion of this project, with
all the intrinsic difficulties of the intellect that have been
presented, as being the adept's path in and of itself, instead of
being a hurdle that must be cleared prior to taking on such a path.
i've already been very intently focused and recent events have
dramatically enhanced that.
s:well and good, david. we should all do just what inspires us most.
dw: side tangent: personally my understanding of ra's teachings,
which i trust, is that the choice of polarity made in third-density
is what all future development hinges upon, but as long as the choice
is either above 50% service to others or above 95% service to self,
harvest into the next density is possible. you seem to agree with
this, but also have the idea that it's not enough and your "homework"
in 3d hasn't really been finished in such a case.
s:there are only two ways to leave this illusory world, david, both
of which involve corporeal dissolution.
one way - which is not ascension and so which does not result in
liberation from the fallen universe - is to simply drop dead in the
very common manner that is experienced by most human beings on earth.
this means that transfiguration has not been attained and so some
future physical incarnation will be required in order to fulfill the
requirements of the path and to fully transmute all karma. jesus, the
prototypical man, demonstrated the requirement for attainment of the
final liberation perfectly in his symbolical life.
the second way - which is true ascension - is to partake in the
rapture, or 'lifting up'. that is to say, to completely disappear
from the fallen universe altogether by way of the receipt of grace
and the resulting transfiguration of all the lower vehicles of
consciousness, rather like the party did at the end of james
redfield's 'celestine prophecy'.
dw: my interpretation of ra's teachings is that they give no
indication of there being a need for further third-density
incarnations to graduate from fifth into sixth or sixth into seventh,
especially due to the fact that you are now talking about entire
planets' worth of beings like us that have fused into a collective.
s:do bear in mind, david, that ra was/is not a divine being. that is
to say he/they have not yet attained the crown of life: christ
consciousness. there are higher more true teachings available in this
world than those of ra.
the truest expressions in the ra material are sophistic compared to
pure gnosis.
in order to come to a true understanding of what ascension really is
and how to realise it (not to acquire it, for divinity already exists
in all its perfection), a whole new way of thinking and seeing must
be employed. for there is no such thing as a separate soul that can
be harvested or who can ascend. therefore the ra material is quite
misleading in its conceptual expressions, and does not compare very
favourably with, say, pure buddhism or taoism, which is pure gnosis.
the above may, of course be quite upsetting for many on this list and
worldwide who swear by the ra material. however, wisdom requires not
a book for its over-standing, and as long as there is any attachment
or recourse to a book, a teaching or a teacher; as long as one knows
only *about* the law of one (conceptual under-standing) but does not
truly know it by coming into a binding with tao, one is not going to
ascend.
therefore, why not seek wisdom itself, directly? only then will you
know the truth and so be able to really teach and help others.
dw:that one aspect of your teachings could be very discouraging to
potential aspirants, as it would appear that unless they go all the
way, which in many cases is near-impossible with the inherent
catalysts of the incarnative process, (such as a woman having been
molested as a child, etc., and concomitant personality distortions)
you're basically telling them that they'll have to go back to "hell"
in 3d again. considering how few people are said to be potentially
able to make the above-50% sto harvest into 4d, suggesting that they
must be at unity / divine contact level of consciousness is to trim
the numbers down to probably no more than a few thousand at very
best. and these people, if attaining that level, could then
basically harvest themselves whenever they wished and could do any
number of formidable miracles including bodily teleportation, etc.,
as did jesus. (ra says that only 120 people were even ready for 4d
harvest at the end of the second cycle, some 25,000 years ago... so
how many could have gone to the 7d level based on that?)
s:this is why the true teaching of the avataras has ever been kept
secret from all but those who were ready to receive and apply it
intelligently.
however, at the end of an age such as that we now live in, the
descent of grace is very great. in this particular end of a major
world cycle, the "christ will come in power", meaning that the degree
of the descent of grace is utterly unprecedented for this planet.
however. "at the time of the end many will be led astray." - biblical
prophecy.
below is a pertinent discussion with a spiritual teacher who, rather
like yourself, was focusing on a lower level than the goal of life
itself:
from a spiritual teacher: "i find your teachings to be of such an
elevated level that only initiates could possibly follow them. we
still live in a world where most people are being solicited with
brainwashing techniques that derive their power from the ego. and
because of this fallen state, many are unable to discern rightly
between the laws of ignorance and the law of one. it is this
confusion that has paralysed the outer man/old man from accessing the
inner man/new man, i.e., the christed one. because of the multi-
perceptions that penetrate earthly consciousness in the darkness
here and now with overload material, few are able to separate the
wheat from the tears, and because of this a great lack remains. so
let us be patient with all, even though the time heralded is
approaching, realising that each one's growth must manifest, as you
rightly know, from within. and until this deliverance occurs, many
will remain swayed by the law of duality, of good and evil, unable to
perceive the higher order of things."
tf: we understand what you say and why, and to a degree we are in
concurrence. however, may we suggest that the unprecedented degree of
today's grace is being very much underestimated by the vast majority
of people in the world due to *what they believe*. if we believe that
we are not worthy to attain liberation (the true harvest), then even
a thousand buddhas cannot help us. however, where there is true faith
and righteously-motivated supplication to the divine spirit in self-
forgetfulness and selfless service to the one life in all, then we
should indeed expect to behold a major personal 'miracle' in these
times. do not doubt it, and with love and respect always, please
beware of spreading such doubt in the minds of others, even tacitly
in thought.
"if doubt and fear should stop us in the middle of the road, we would
hear only ridicule from the voices of the night, but if we reach the
mountain peak bravely we shall join the heavenly spirits in songs of
triumph and joy." - kahlil gibran.
"behold the great key-keeper of the age has turned the key; the
mighty gates fly wide and all who will may greet the king. blessed
are the pure in heart, for they shall see the king. take heed! be
strong in mind; be pure in heart; be vigilant in helpfulness; the
kingdom is at hand." - jesus.
jesus' above assurance given 2,000 years ago is even more relevant to
today's forthcoming event, for as you know, history repeats itself,
and today the aquarian passion play is a worldwide development.
please note that jesus does not say: "blessed are those who have
reached initiate status, for they shall see the king." no. the
equation is a rather more simple and definitely more benevolent one
in these remarkable times; indeed, it is unprecedented for earth.
such grace has never before approached this planet.
please let me explain further, for it is so vital that we come to
appreciate what is being offered us in these times. the emergence of
the aquarian christine consciousness in many around the world today
is a tremendous act of compassion by servers of the divine plan, many
of whom are christ-hierophants, though still veiled from the eyes of
most, and who are right now offering to take the majority of
humanity's karma onto their own shoulders and to transmute it. this
can only be done, of course, with the consent of humanity itself.
such consent must take the form of willingness, faith and surrender.
it can certainly not happen in disbelief or feelings of unworthiness.
christ loves us all equally; initiates, aspirants, alcoholics,
prostitutes and yes, even your much-written-about 'shadowlords'
themselves! it is, of course, only through love (and intelligent
will) that these wayward brothers of shadow may be conquered, never
by antagonism. for let us not forget that they are still our
brothers, even though lost for ages in the darkest night. love
conquers all. to withhold love from any being in the universe is to
vivify the illusion of separation and ultimately to become ourselves
like the brothers of shadow.
now, if your own beloved children proved to you that they would
repent and reform, would you not wish to immediately relieve them of
their prison-sentence and deliver them safely back home? how much
more, then, would the love of christ do for his lost children? these
words are not born of a whimsical or utopian dream; they are derived
from remembrance of the plan for this stage of earth and mankind's
spiritual progress. if ours were not such incredibly special times,
why then would all the various prophecies (and there are so many) be
pointing toward this very moment, and why all the celestial,
extraterrestrial and ultraterrestrial attention upon earth? do we
really know so much about infinity to be bold enough to declare that
a certain thing is impossible?
you may have some difficulty in accepting this next statement to
begin with, but a fallen soul may reach the minimum vibratory level
required for harvest in these times in the twinkling of an eye. such
is the gravity and wondrous opportunity that is being offered to
everyone today, without exception, and such is the overwhelming and
impersonal love and compassion of the aquarian christ. if
this 'miracle' were not possible, then the christ would not be here
on earth, for christ is no unintelligent and wishful thinker!
the only reason that human beings may not see the king in these "end
times" is because they choose not to repent and to walk the path. the
only reason that human beings will experience the grace of christ as
terrible, destructive and not liberating and blessed is because they
choose to remain selfish and spiritually inert. it is all just a
matter of choice.
in order to derive a clearer appreciation of the veracity of
humanity's glorious opportunity today courtesy of the ineffable
intelligence and love of christ, we could compare mankind's present
situation with that of an earthly school. humanity - the children in
the school - have, of course, during their studies over the past
training period, not been performing too well! in the earlier stages
of their school-years the end-of-term examinations were relatively
difficult, and most earthbound pupils of life failed to make the
grade. hence they had to re-sit the examination at the end of the
following term. however, come the end of a major term of training at
school, the headmaster (christ) decides to lighten the load of the
pupils by assisting them all on an unparalleled level. in other
words, the headmaster concedes to take a large part of the end-of-
term examination himself in order that more of his beloved pupils may
graduate, at least to the next grade, if not all the way to
professorship! the taking of part of the examination by the
headmaster does not remove the need for the pupils to learn their own
lessons, for this is an immutable universal law, the law of cause and
effect. it merely corrects their mistakes, as it were, in a very
deliberate and conclusive way. the correcting of mistakes is
analogous to the removal of karma in order that the pupils'
previously-scaled eyes may again regard the school's syllabus with
clear perception and appreciation of its purpose and value, while
simultaneously being promoted to the next level. this is not a free
promotion, of course; the christine intervention just makes things
very much easier to ascend in consciousness. it is thus that the new
humanity will be born in the new world.
finally, it may well be that you and, of course, many others like you
have incarnated to contribute a 'lower' (not lesser) stone in the one
pyramidal work of world redemption. without the lower and foundation
stones, the capstone work cannot be completed, and without the
capstone, the foundation work of the pyramid is useless. we need one
another, for it is now time for all the building blocks that
constitute the new world pyramid to consciously and intelligently
collaborate. it is time to know about one another on the physical
plane and to work together as one for the greatest good of all. we
have recognised you and your particular pyramid stone; have you yet
recognised ours?
let us now all go out into the quarry together. there is much
building work to be done, but in looking up and out in the same
direction, many hands, heads and hearts make light work. only in
divine synergy may we know victory.
[fin.]
so you see, david, the only reason that souls will not attain the
final liberation at the end of this cycle, full of grace, is due to
the fact that they are choosing not to look to the one goal itself:
transfiguration or deliverance. compromise along hte path never led
anyone home.
complex intellectual teachings such as the ra material actually serve
to complicate the simple truth with ideas such as catalyst,
densities, races, polarities, etc., etc., and "as a man thinketh, so
is he".
dw: i know that you base this concept from a buddha quote, but that
very well could be based upon the fact that the only way to escape
reincarnation during those times was to have a 7d ascension. now that
we are at the end of a cycle, the rules are different. just because
someone has work to do doesn't mean they can't do it in higher
densities, in my opinion. it seems to be a rather rigid and
unflexible viewpoint to think that every being must be forced to go
through 7d awakening in 3d in order to return to timelessness and
unity.
s:seek, with your heart (not just the head) and you will surely find.