Symbols and Tinsel

[czblake@...]

--- in asc2k@y..., lindaz <ljzwbb@e...> wrote:
>
>
> hi linda ,
>
> hi julie,
>
> excuse me for asking but what is the relevance of all
> this geometry stuff to the coming ascension.
>
> it's a great question julie, thanks for asking it.
>
> the geometry stuff may or may not have relevance for people with regards
> to the ascension, based upon their paths, what they are drawn to, what
> resonates with them, what sparks their awareness and what assists them
> in their journey of remembering unity and interconnectedness of all
> things as well as their soul's purpose and how it relates to their being
> of service to others as an instrument of divine love.

so is it that sacred geometry might be used as a tool, a raft to help reach the
other shore, as the buddhists would say?

yet perhaps if a person just has faith and so looks to the informing
intelligence *behind* all tools, to love itself, to the source of all things,
then that person may be able to circumvent the need for such lesser symbols
altogether?

ultimately the raft must be left behind if one is to ascend into formlessness.
is it not so?

this way might be called the path of simplicity, that is, the path of direct
communion with god, beyond all forms and concepts.

it seems to me that there lurks great dangers of personal attachment and pride
in every illusion of form and concept. and many people are becoming enamored
with such tools everywhere in these times; getting caught up in the shape and
beauty of the raft while forgetting that to which it may lead. yet in simple
love, it seems that there are no such dangers, for there are no attachments, no
'things' to distract our focus upon god alone, which is all there is.

tell me, when you were a child, were you more exited over the colored wrapping
paper or rather what the gift-wrap concealed?

"the mind is the slayer of the real." theosophy.

[glen main]

czblake@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=-8esgloicgcmlalatldnjknww88zekk6-ae84cgqd5rnwqhbzrrrj3rwh2aotxsfhtkrlzqizotsd753w4g ) wrote:

> so is it that sacred geometry might be used as a tool, a raft to help reach
the other shore, as the buddhists would say?
>
> yet perhaps if a person just has faith and so looks to the informing
intelligence *behind* all tools, to love itself, to the source of all things,
then that person may be able to circumvent the need for such lesser symbols
altogether?
>
> ultimately the raft must be left behind if one is to ascend into formlessness.
is it not so?

the term "harvest" is also used in relation to hunting or trapping. i don't
think ra ever comes out and says the harvest
will be performed by the "grim reaper", but i would asum that will be the case.
unless you cling to the christian concept of being changed in the "twinkling of
an eye".

>
> this way might be called the path of simplicity, that is, the path of direct
communion with god, beyond all forms and concepts.
>
> it seems to me that there lurks great dangers of personal attachment and pride
in every illusion of form and concept. and many people are becoming enamored
with such tools everywhere in these times; getting caught up in the shape and
beauty of the raft while forgetting that to which it may lead. yet in simple
love, it seems that there are no such dangers, for there are no attachments, no
'things' to distract our focus upon god alone, which is all there is.
>
> tell me, when you were a child, were you more exited over the colored wrapping
paper or rather what the gift-wrap concealed?
>
> "the mind is the slayer of the real." theosophy.

i really didn't have anything to say. its just that this post by czblake was
worth repeating.
nice, cz. ;)

[lindaz]

hello czblake, aka stewart connor, aka sandy soloman, aka marpa 2526, aka
magna 1o3, or shall i just call you by your real name, simon?


reading through the archives of this forum, it appears that you have
posted any number of times using at least 5 different aliases. when
you first posted last december, submitting the piece you wrote,
the great play (saying that it came from "an enigmatic source"), david
made some fascinating and very lucid points in his official response to
it. it is not clear what your agenda is by using one different name
after another to post here. but in your initial posting as stewart
connor last december, you said that you had "thoroughly researched the
spiritual arena, studying over 3,000 spiritual, new age, occult, religious
volumes and...visited over 300 spiritual communities, centres and groups"
along your path.


each of us has a path to take along our journey through this life.
each of us is drawn to unique experiences and circumstances through which
we may grow, learn, remember and evolve. clearly, since you have
studied so very many volumes and visited so many different spiritual groups,
you must understand that as one travels the path, one finds stepping stones
which may serve to take one from one level of understanding, remembrance
and integration to the next. many find that meditation is a powerful
tool for the culitivation of consciousness. some gaze upon mandalas,
or an image of a beloved saint or avatar for inspiration. some use
mantras or chanting or toning, and for many, simply spending time in the
heart of mother nature is deeply illuminating. there are over 6 billion
people on this planet, and each person embodied here is drawn to unique
experiences along their paths. surely there are many distractions
to be had for the spiritual seeker, but this is a planet of free will,
and all may do as they choose, and as they are guided.


people on this forum may agree that there are 'tools' they have used
or practices that have served their awakening in the past, which they have
abandoned and which no longer serve them today. as we grow and evolve
and shift, we may move on to different ways of understanding and remembering.
surely there were things in your own perusals in the past which may have
seemed vital and important at the time you were discovering them that no
longer have any relevance or use for you today. since the awakening
occurring on this planet is happening like a wave, there are those just
coming into new awarenesses now, who may benefit from discovering today,
some of the things that you yourself may have discarded long ago.
this doesn't make their discovery of it any less valid, vital or important
for them.


the energy of the divine is imbued behind and within all of creation.
the formless is expressed into form as the pure energy consciousness shines
forth into the cosmos and into manifestation. our bodies are
an aspect of that manifest universe. and when we look through our
eyes to gaze out upon creation, we are giving the creator a window through
which to peer, so that it may look through us, back upon itself.
so let us bless creation. let us love it. let us revere and
honor its holiness, its wholeness and its sacredness, reflecting the radiance
that it shines upon us, back toward it.


tell me, when you were a child, were you more exited over the colored
wrapping paper or rather what the gift-wrap concealed?


simon, there is fundamentally no difference between the 'wrapping paper'
and the 'gift' that is held within it. one is really just a reflection
of the other. all is simply a matter of cosmic vibration. as
above, so below. all is one. creation is a vast tapestry, woven
of myriad threads which provide its richness, texture and complexity.
as we honor the immense diversity of vibration that is creation, as we
hold our hearts, minds and bodies open with humility and awe in reverence
for the 'shape and beauty of the raft', and as we simply
allow love to pour through our human vessels and toward all that is, we
may begin to serve as clearer conduits for the animating forces of the
spirit of love, so that it may reconnect through us with itself.


linda

[Julie Rose]

--- lindaz <ljzwbb@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=damf5v0oxtvqafw9kasxe0x6pw_llh4wegv1lw gpvbjak1vvejkr1w6bo-_b4qbpqxtzakj0jly)> wrote:
> hello czblake, aka stewart connor, aka sandy
> soloman, aka marpa 2526,
> aka magna 1o3, or shall i just call you by your real
> name, simon?
>
> reading through the archives of this forum, it
> appears that you have
> posted any number of times using at least 5
> different aliases. when you
> first posted last december, submitting the piece you
> wrote, the great
> play (saying that it came from "an enigmatic
> source"), david made some
> fascinating and very lucid points in his official
> response to it. it is
> not clear what your agenda is by using one different
> name after another
> to post here. but in your initial posting as
> stewart connor last
> december, you said that you had "thoroughly
> researched the spiritual
> arena, studying over 3,000 spiritual, new age,
> occult, religious volumes
> and...visited over 300 spiritual communities,
> centres and groups" along
> your path.
>
> each of us has a path to take along our journey
> through this life. each
> of us is drawn to unique experiences and
> circumstances through which we
> may grow, learn, remember and evolve. clearly,
> since you have studied
> so very many volumes and visited so many different
> spiritual groups, you
> must understand that as one travels the path, one
> finds stepping stones
> which may serve to take one from one level of
> understanding, remembrance
> and integration to the next. many find that
> meditation is a powerful
> tool for the culitivation of consciousness. some
> gaze upon mandalas, or
> an image of a beloved saint or avatar for
> inspiration. some use mantras
> or chanting or toning, and for many, simply spending
> time in the heart
> of mother nature is deeply illuminating. there are
> over 6 billion
> people on this planet, and each person embodied here
> is drawn to unique
> experiences along their paths. surely there are
> many distractions to be
> had for the spiritual seeker, but this is a planet
> of free will, and all
> may do as they choose, and as they are guided.
>
> people on this forum may agree that there are
> 'tools' they have used or
> practices that have served their awakening in the
> past, which they have
> abandoned and which no longer serve them today. as
> we grow and evolve
> and shift, we may move on to different ways of
> understanding and
> remembering. surely there were things in your own
> perusals in the past
> which may have seemed vital and important at the
> time you were
> discovering them that no longer have any relevance
> or use for you
> today. since the awakening occurring on this planet
> is happening like a
> wave, there are those just coming into new
> awarenesses now, who may
> benefit from discovering today, some of the things
> that you yourself may
> have discarded long ago. this doesn't make their
> discovery of it any
> less valid, vital or important for them.
>
> the energy of the divine is imbued behind and within
> all of creation.
> the formless is expressed into form as the pure
> energy consciousness
> shines forth into the cosmos and into manifestation.
> our bodies are an
> aspect of that manifest universe. and when we look
> through our eyes to
> gaze out upon creation, we are giving the creator a
> window through which
> to peer, so that it may look through us, back upon
> itself. so let us
> bless creation. let us love it. let us revere and
> honor its holiness,
> its wholeness and its sacredness, reflecting the
> radiance that it shines
> upon us, back toward it.
>
> tell me, when you were a child, were you more exited
> over the colored
> wrapping paper or rather what the gift-wrap
> concealed?
>
> simon, there is fundamentally no difference between
> the 'wrapping paper'
> and the 'gift' that is held within it. one is
> really just a reflection
> of the other. all is simply a matter of cosmic
> vibration. as above, so
> below. all is one. creation is a vast tapestry,
> woven of myriad
> threads which provide its richness, texture and
> complexity. as we honor
> the immense diversity of vibration that is creation,
> as we hold our
> hearts, minds and bodies open with humility and awe
> in reverence for the
> 'shape and beauty of the raft', and as we simply
> allow love to pour
> through our human vessels and toward all that is, we
> may begin to serve
> as clearer conduits for the animating forces of the
> spirit of love, so
> that it may reconnect through us with itself.
>
> linda
>

hi linda,

i also think that some wanderers are now at this late
hour ( now matter how long ago they have been on their
paths), remembering past duality all the way to the
source of their true nature and are seeking
desperately to invoke divinity in moments of awareness
when the veil is lifted up at certain moments of
lucidity that are frequently experienced when one is
seeking in the silence of the heart.

they seek to invoked the divine directly, past the
imperfections of interpretative media, straight to the
ultimate vibration of love in an uncompromising focus
. all those information linda are very well and
comforting to the child in new age kindergarten and it
might be where your mission is leading you at this
moment , although you seem to have been touched at
one time in your life for this special grace that we
are looking for judging by what you wrote for
tfel.

but why i am asking you linda not offer the truly
thirsty wanderer sojourning in the desert of this
duality brackish water when you know where the source
of living water is?

is there anyone else on this list that deeply feel the
way i do?

julie


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[jonnabradley]

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><font color="#800000" face="arial">bravo, linda!</font>
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><font color="#800000" face="arial">the unmasking yet again. truly, this is a boring game, simon. be yourself!</font>
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>nothing real can be threatened.
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>hello czblake, aka stewart connor, aka sandy soloman, aka marpa 2526, aka magna 1o3, or shall i just call you by your real name, simon?

reading through the archives of this forum, it appears that you have posted any number of times using at least 5 different aliases. when you first posted last december, submitting the piece you wrote, the great play (saying that it came from "an enigmatic source"), </p></blockquote>