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Jeremy Weiland
10-24-2003, 06:38 AM
I don't usually forward links, but if y'all don't read
Drudge Report you probably missed this story
(interestingly, it's off a Canadian news site).
Basically, a large explosion on the surface of the sun
released radiation that they're calling a perfect
solar storm. On a scale from 1 to 5 it registers a 3.
Worse since 1859! Is this not what we've been
expecting? Funny how NASA has to go to the Canadians
to publish real news...
<a href="http://www.cfcn.ca/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/B/20031023/spacestorm?brand=generic&hub=&tf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.html&cf=CFCNPlus/generic/hubs/frontpage.cfg&slug=spacestorm&date=20031023&archive=CFCNPlus&ad_page_name=&nav=home&subnav=fullstory">http://www.cfcn.ca/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/B/20031023/spacestorm?brand=\
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Make sure the whole link goes in the URL box.
Jeremy
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alanpaal
10-24-2003, 07:32 AM
Here's another link about the event.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3210901.stm
Alan
Lesley Schultz
10-24-2003, 09:19 AM
My very dear Jeremy:
--- Jeremy Weiland <greenlantern113@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=bPkGLUhEBDY3nALJaiL5Tuv5ujJWQzxGY0Mbe-F_MIVaqtfcyXM0O823-fkOdNDt99KooEsvjdq7puyMCoPEgA8)> wrote:
> snip> Funny how NASA has to go to the
> Canadians > to publish real news...
>
LS: I am far from contradicting you, Jeremy, but in
fairness to our local news station, KCBS, they have
been talking about this enormous geomagnetic solar
storm for at least two days. It was all over the news
this morning. The news story said that we could see
flares or out-flarings the size of Jupiter. And the
storm could go on for two whole weeks, off and on.
So, do you think that with all that extra solar
energy, some of it aimed at us, that maybe we could
make some really excellent use of it? Like a special
meditation on bringing on 4D and assisting Gaia in her
birthing process? This might be a gift we shouldn't
ignore.
Blessings, peace and Happy Friday,
~lesley
PS. Rented "The Core" last week and saw it. Not a
good movie, but not a bad one either. The parts where
the magnetic field collapses and the Bay Bridge
disintegrates under the radiation made me think of it.
Do you suppose that this big solar storm is going to
be the first of maybe several, one after another?
perhaps a few storms close together and then a brief
rest, then some more fierce ones?
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Jeremy Weiland
10-24-2003, 09:31 AM
> LS: I am far from contradicting you, Jeremy, but in
> fairness to our local news station, KCBS, they have
> been talking about this enormous geomagnetic solar
> storm for at least two days. It was all over the
> news this morning. The news story said that we could
> see flares or out-flarings the size of Jupiter. And
> the storm could go on for two whole weeks, off and
> on.
yeah, after I sent the email out I saw it on CNN.com.
:-) My bad - I don't have broadcast TV, and it wasn't
on NPR this morning.
Still wierd, and I found the link I sent had more info
than the longer American reports. CNN seemed to play
it down, while the Canadian one seemed to play it up.
Oh well, I'm still mad I didn't find out about it till
I got to work this morning. It's supposed to hit
around 3pm EST, wish I had unplugged my laptop and all
my keyboard stuff.
> So, do you think that with all that extra solar
> energy, some of it aimed at us, that maybe we could
> make some really excellent use of it? Like a
> special meditation on bringing on 4D and assisting
> Gaia in her birthing process? This might be a gift
> we shouldn't ignore.
I agree, I'm giving a big presentation at work 2pm -
3pm so hopefully it won't flip me out during it :-)
but yeah I think we should all make sure we ground
this incoming energy at some point this evening.
> Do you suppose that this big solar storm is going to
> be the first of maybe several, one after another?
There's an article on SPACE.COM that says this is the
first of a series of storms coming our way as a result
of this one explosion.
Thanks for the correction, Lesley!
Jeremy
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Roger Nelson
10-24-2003, 09:50 AM
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wrote:
> Still wierd, and I found the link I sent had more info
> than the longer American reports.
Just to let you know, the possible reason why the Canadians have more
info is the fact that we sit right under for the most part the
Magnetic North Pole. I might reccomend the following site for up to
the minute Geo-Magnetic information: http://www.spaceweather.gc.ca
As of the last time I checked the storm is expected to arrive any
minute. Since I usually can 'hear' such events (its a hissing noise
in my ears) and I am hearing some now, I can attest to the arrival of
this storm. Gook luck every one in handling it.
Roger
rueckert
10-24-2003, 11:36 AM
Go Lesley! Thanks for that! L/L- wol
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Subject: Re: [asc2k] Space storm coming to Earth
My very dear Jeremy:
--- Jeremy Weiland <greenlantern113@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=--LUUMzN2gA5MQ2im2esaFg7yiESnP6nwqKuIucQgPETX2P_ANLf i88UYEpeu-C_AbHYMVVrw2AVqvi4ptgR74JvpKo)> wrote:
> snip> Funny how NASA has to go to the
> Canadians > to publish real news...
>
LS: I am far from contradicting you, Jeremy, but in
fairness to our local news station, KCBS, they have
been talking about this enormous geomagnetic solar
storm for at least two days. It was all over the news
this morning. The news story said that we could see
flares or out-flarings the size of Jupiter. And the
storm could go on for two whole weeks, off and on.
So, do you think that with all that extra solar
energy, some of it aimed at us, that maybe we could
make some really excellent use of it? Like a special
meditation on bringing on 4D and assisting Gaia in her
birthing process? This might be a gift we shouldn't
ignore.
Blessings, peace and Happy Friday,
~lesley
PS. Rented "The Core" last week and saw it. Not a
good movie, but not a bad one either. The parts where
the magnetic field collapses and the Bay Bridge
disintegrates under the radiation made me think of it.
Do you suppose that this big solar storm is going to
be the first of maybe several, one after another?
perhaps a few storms close together and then a brief
rest, then some more fierce ones?
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Barry Carter
10-24-2003, 11:56 AM
Dear Friends,
Here is what Mitch Battros sent out on this subject:
My God, There Is A Solar Superstorm Occurring Now...10/23/03
by Mitch Battros (ECTV)
I just got off the phone with Dr. Ernest Hildner. He is the Director of the
NOAA Space Weather Center. All space weather information, from GOES to SOHO
and everything in-between, goes through his office first. There is no
higher authority in the space weather industry.
Dr. Ernest Hildner just told me by phone not 10 minutes ago, "We are in a
solar superstorm right now". No sooner did I get off the phone with Dr.
Hildner, did I open my mail, and there it was. Confirmation of what I have
been saying all along. "We are in a Mega Cycle." My gosh, my excitement is
overwhelming. I can hardly type....
Folks, in no way does this have anything to do with Art Bell/Striebers
book. They based their hypothesis on "global warming" caused by human
pollutants. I believe their book is mis-guided and missed the target agenda
entirely. What you read here, is based on hard facts, and from the "real
science" community. In my book "Solar Rain" which is due out January 2004,
you will see clearly the difference between a paranormal entertainment
show, and something made from the science community, and very carefully
weaves in "ancient text" and ancient cultures which gives us a very
accurate picture of today's events. You may recall the "Hale Bopp" mumbo
jumbo of a so called "companion". Sure it made great 'ratings'. It also may
have contributed to 37 deaths based on 'woo-woo'.
I am making such a strong statement now, because I believe we are in the
"real" time of monumental shifts. I have no patients for 'aliens in the
freezer', planet-x, shadow people or any other such genre'. I have worked
very hard to get Earth Changes TV away from such wild unsubstantiated
hoop-la. It is simply too dangerous to play with such non-sense anymore.
Sure it was fun, but now it is real, and my oath to you is to keep it that
way. I will not publish anything I cannot back up with factual information.
Sure, from time to time, I will write issues of "pure conjecture". But I
will make clear every time, it is just that. Enough!!!
Information has just been released outlining clearly what had occurred on
September 1, 1859, is occurring again, and right now. Here is what happened
144 years ago....
(NASA) - Newly uncovered scientific data of recorded history's most massive
space storm is helping a NASA scientist investigate its intensity and the
probability that what occurred on Earth and in the heavens almost a
century-and-a-half ago could happen again.
In scientific circles where solar flares, magnetic storms and other unique
solar events are discussed, the occurrences of September 1-2, 1859, are the
star stuff of legend. Even 144 years ago, many of Earth's inhabitants
realized something momentous had just occurred. Within hours, telegraph
wires in both the United States and Europe spontaneously shorted out,
causing numerous fires, while the Northern Lights, solar-induced phenomena
more closely associated with regions near Earth's North Pole, were
documented as far south as Rome, Havana and Hawaii, with similar effects at
the South Pole.
"Remarkably, science has documented solar events a hundred times more
intense," said Dr. Bruce Tsurutani, a plasma physicist at NASA's Jet
Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "But none of them interacted with
the Earth in such a violent manner. What happened in 1859 was a combination
of several events that occurred on the Sun at the same time. If they took
place separately they would be somewhat notable events. But together they
create the most potent disruption of Earth's ionosphere in recorded
history. What they generated was the perfect space storm."
To begin to understand the perfect space storm you must first begin to
understand the gargantuan numbers with which plasma physicists like
Tsurutani work every day. At over 1.4 million kilometers (869,919 miles)
wide, the Sun contains 99.86 percent of the mass of the entire solar
system: well over a million Earths could fit inside its bulk. The total
energy radiated by the Sun averages 383 billion trillion kilowatts, the
equivalent of the energy generated by 100 billion tons of TNT exploding
each and every second.
But the energy released by the Sun is not always constant. Close inspection
of the Sun's surface reveals a turbulent tangle of magnetic fields and
boiling arc-shaped clouds of hot plasma dappled by dark, roving sunspots.
Every once in a while -- exactly when scientists cannot predict - - an
event occurs on the surface of the Sun that releases a tremendous amount of
energy in the form of a solar flare or a coronal mass ejection, an
explosive burst of very hot, electrified gases with a mass that can surpass
that of Mount Everest. What transpired during the dog days of summer 1859,
across the 150 million-kilometer (about 93 million-mile) chasm of
interplanetary space that separates the Sun and Earth, was this: on August
28, solar observers noted the development of numerous sunspots on the Sun's
surface. Sunspots are localized regions of extremely intense magnetic
fields. These magnetic fields intertwine, and the resulting magnetic energy
can generate a sudden, violent release of energy called a solar flare. From
August 28 to September 2, several solar flares were observed. Then, on
September 1, the Sun released a mammoth solar flare. For almost an entire
minute the amount of sunlight the Sun produced at the region of the flare
actually doubled.
Equation:
Sunspots => Solar Flares => Magnetic Shift => Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream
Currents => Extreme Weather
and Human Disruption (mitch battros)
"With the flare came this explosive release of a massive cloud of
magnetically charged plasma called a coronal mass ejection," said
Tsurutani. "These things actually fire out from the Sun radially, so not
all of them head toward the Earth. But those that do usually take three to
four days to reach Earth. This one took all of 17 hours and 40 minutes."
Not only was this coronal mass ejection an extremely fast mover, the
magnetic fields contained within its charged particles were extremely
intense and in direct opposition with Earth's magnetic fields. That meant
the coronal mass ejection of September 1, 1859, overwhelmed Earth's own
magnetic field, allowing charged particles to penetrate into Earth's upper
atmosphere. The endgame to such a stellar event is one heck of a light show
and more -- including potential disruptions of electrical grids and
communications systems.
Back in 1859, the invention of the telegraph was only 15 years old and
society's electrical framework was truly in its infancy. A 1994 solar storm
caused major malfunctions to two communications satellites, disrupting
newspaper, network television and nationwide radio service throughout
Canada. Other storms have affected systems ranging from cell phone service
and TV signals to GPS systems and electrical power grids. In March 1989, a
solar storm much less intense than the perfect
space storm of 1859 caused the Hydro-Quebec (Canada) power grid to go down
for over nine hours, and the resulting damages and loss in revenue were
estimated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
"The question I get asked most often is, 'Could a perfect space storm
happen again, and when?'" added Tsurutani. "I tell people it could, and it
could very well be even more intense than what transpired in1859. As for
when, we simply do not know."
To research this perfect space storm, Tsurutani and co-writers Drs. Walter
Gonzalez, of the Brazilian National Space Institute, and Gurbax Lakhina and
Sobhana Alex, of the India Institute of Geomagnetism, used previously
reported ground, solar and auroral observations, and recently re-discovered
ground-based magnetic-field data from Colaba Observatory in India. The
findings were published in a recent issue of the Journal of Geophysical
Research.
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bjorn_nitmou
10-24-2003, 01:57 PM
Its 5 oclock EST: What happened, is this thing late or what? Did
aliens deflect it with an invisible sheild?
darktemplarssj
10-24-2003, 02:06 PM
Check this out if you guys get a chance
http://www.msnbc.com/news/750150.asp?0cv=CB10&cp1=1
I'm guessing that this storm is just one of many to come, since we
are in the declining phase of the solar cycle and its abnormal to
have solar storms now.
-Dave
Chris Hamilton
10-24-2003, 02:32 PM
It's all these Wanderers putting up a light wall :) Chris
> Its 5 oclock EST: What happened, is this thing late or what? Did
> aliens deflect it with an invisible sheild?
Roger Nelson
10-24-2003, 03:16 PM
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> It's all these Wanderers putting up a light wall :) Chris
>
> > Its 5 oclock EST: What happened, is this thing late or what? Did
> > aliens deflect it with an invisible sheild?
Actually I was reading that the storm was not a 'perfect' as
predicted, the Polarity turned out to be opposite what was expected.
There are more to come though.
My High Speed Internet connection seems to be affected though, data
transfer rates have slowed to a crawl.
Roger
David Wilcock
10-24-2003, 04:07 PM
From: Roger Nelson
>Actually I was reading that the storm was not a 'perfect' as
predicted, the Polarity turned out to be opposite what was expected.
There are more to come though.
>My High Speed Internet connection seems to be affected though, data
transfer rates have slowed to a crawl.
>Roger
DW: Whew! The polarity does make all the difference in this case, it
would seem. There do not appear to be any power grid problems reported
on the Net thus far. However, there is still the possibility that there
could be cumulative effects as ambient electrostatic charges increase
with time - I do not have documentation on exactly how quickly the 1989
event knocked out Canada's power grid.
I will say that this was a major wake-up call to me, in the sense of
imparting some urgency to the desire for getting the word out there. It
reminded me of prophecies from several years ago that I received,
indicating that solar activity would eventually raise to a point where
electronics were not usable. I'd say we're still nowhere near that
point, but this does remind me that it's only a matter of time before we
get hit by one that DOES have the power to take down a good number of
the world's energy grids for a time. I'm sure that it will be watched
over by the Guardians so as to occur at the time most beneficial for
humanity, in terms of its catalytic potential for growth.
The ironic thing is that, like today, if something like this IS coming
our way, and we may end up with no power for a week or more as a result,
we really won't have more than 24 hours, at the most, to know that it is
coming and to then prepare for it. Furthermore, so as to avoid panicking
the public and hurting the economy, the media won't do anything to warn
people in advance.
I'm grateful that today wasn't that day, as I do have some free time and
want to get some work done on the computer... :)
Peace be with you -
- David
David Wilcock
10-24-2003, 04:18 PM
Group,
Here's MSNBC's take on what happened - they seem to be one of the more
forthcoming corporate media news sources.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/750150.asp?0cv=CB10&cp1=1
The article says outright that it is better not to tell people if
something like this is coming...
The part that the article doesn't say is that we are NOT in the decline
of a solar cycle - that should have started happening over two years
ago. As Battros has said, the Sun's behavior is breaking all the
standard models and expectations as we speak. We can expect that this
will only continue intensifying as we get closer to the "water line" in
2010-2013 (see Divine Cosmos Supplemental.)
http://ascension2000.com/DivineCosmos
Peace be with you -
- David
Hi All,
We just had a power outage from 12.30 pm to 3.00 pm est Australia in SE NSW
and the Canberra region. We also had some major storms so this is not
completely unusual for us. What was unusual though, was that a much larger
area of the grid was taken out than is usually the case from local thunder
storms.
This week we had G W Bush Jr address the Parliment in Canberra along with
the President for China the following day. Some members of the Greens stood
up and raised the issue concerning the detainees in Guantanamo Bay. They
were ejected from Parliment as a result of his behaviour. Irrespective of
the position you take on the Greens behaviour the whole 20 hour Bush visit
highlighted to me how much Bush is isolated from true democratic debate. The
Chinese went one better though and used the strong armed tactic of not
addressing the Parliment if the Greens were present. The Greens and their
guest were effectively gagged for The Chinese Presidents address. So much
for free speech!!!
Cheers,
Mawk
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