i am very reluctant to point to links from channeled information (but
there might be other channelings except davids that are genuine). and
i am very reluctant to point to other channeled info here at davids
forum. anyway - as an exception, the chilbolton case is exceptional:
regarding the chilbolton formations i happened to find theese
channelings - that to me might seems interesting additional
information from ets. (i have seen much less "serious" material
around). but we are all free (and thanks for that) to use our own
judgements of course.
http://www.citiesoflight.net/tawatnaw.html
http://www.citiesoflight.net/kadjina.html
also some very interesting info regarding the vanished mars moons
phobos and diemos (at the middle of the info in link 2).
in hope of serving the good forces, and in fear of getting my hed
and "reputation" cut off.
best thoughts
from
jan egil wanvik
in beautiful norway
good luck at art bell, david, if you attend there.
David Wilcock
08-28-2001, 09:35 AM
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><font face="tahoma" size="2">from: janus212@yahoo.no [mailto:janus212@yahoo.no]
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i am very reluctant to point to links from channeled information (but
there might be other channelings except davids that are genuine).
<span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">[david wilcock]there certainly are, and i have indicated those that can get you part of the way there. (for me the 1981 law of one series finishes the course.) the thing is that i know exactly how hard it can be to do it properly. i know what information sounds like when it's really coming from a level that is really super-conscious - there are changes in the whole style in which language is put together. read nostradamus, cayce, ra, walter russell, dr. norma milanovich, even patricia pereira (though her material is distorted in many ways it is quite poetic at times.) or, in the case of jane roberts, the feed gets very, very slow at times and you can tell that the sentences were very delicately crafted, though seth tries tobe "user-friendly." </font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">so i totally don't want to offend anyone here, but to me this is "postcard channeling" - it reads like a speculative email conversation between two new agers. there are interesting ideas, but they are ideas, not necessarily realities! in my opinion, you can't get accurate data if you understand what you are saying, or even what the questions are that you are being asked. it is extremely, extremely difficult, requires an intense amount of skill and practice, and most people never even get past the very early stages because they don't want to create dream voice gobbledygook - they want it to read well from the get-go and they are afraid of "messing up" so they edit and proofread every word as it comes through. !buzzz! wrong! </font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"></span>and
i am very reluctant to point to other channeled info here at davids
forum.
<span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">[david wilcock]i'm just hoping that one day i'll actually see some other new channelswho show promise, but perhaps it's that the most effective methods are not well understood in the public. now both jeff wellman and dee finney from greatdreams.com have studied the techniques i put forth and gotten quite good results. it certainly doesn't have to be my techniques, but the basics of good psychic data as revealed by the years of remote viewing research are essential. </font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">i think the only reason why i did so well with my own stuff was that i went into it with a scientific detachment, never expecting that anyone else would read it but me and not caring whether any of it made sense. there was no desire to pat myself on the back or to get popular... and the words didn't exactly tell me what i wanted to hear! to get the ego out of the way here is a very big deal for many people on a variety of levels. to do good channeling you literally have to surrender yourself to the divine contact that is coming through and not get hung up in lower astral realms. it is possible, but you are actually causing yourself harm if you try to put information out there and claim that it is from a high entity if / when you have any doubts in the veracity of your own data and / or its collection methods.</font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">i've got so much work to do here... but i'll just hit two points. first off, the face image isabsolutely not that of the visitors themselves - it is an image of our martian ancestors, their way of saying, "you've wanted it so bad, now we'll show you exactly what the face on mars originally looked like before all that erosion." (see hoagland's latest post on artbell.com for the rendering on the face by gary val tenuta.) second of all, i think that when asked about the light wave / vibrational component of dna there could be a whale of a lot more said than what was said in the second example. i'm about to have an article come out in spirit of maat magazine, and all of you should be able to read it. </font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"></span>anyway - as an exception, the chilbolton case is exceptional:
regarding the chilbolton formations i happened to find theese
channelings - that to me might seems interesting additional
information from ets. (i have seen much less "serious" material
around). but we are all free (and thanks for that) to use our own
judgements of course.
http://www.citiesoflight.net/tawatnaw.html
http://www.citiesoflight.net/kadjina.html
also some very interesting info regarding the vanished mars moons
phobos and diemos (at the middle of the info in link 2).
in hope of serving the good forces, and in fear of getting my hed
and "reputation" cut off.
<span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">[david wilcock]no, keep your head, and we all value your participation on this list. if we couldn't discuss these things freely then there would be no free will and we'd be breaking the biggest universal law.it is sad, frankly, that so many people ask my opinions of internet channelers and that so often the flawsof the material are apparent. it has caused seriousdamage to thekind of scientific work that i write about in books like convergence iii, which is why i made a specific statementabout it. outside of our own circles here, all it takes is a skeptic to read one or two "postcard channelings" and they'll never want to believe anything that anyone does. quite a shame when you consider how incredible it can be when in thehands of a properly-trained initiate.</font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">peace be with you -</font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">- david</font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="410180216-28082001"></span>
best thoughts
from
jan egil wanvik
in beautiful norway
good luck at art bell, david, if you attend there.
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