Where does the Holy Spirit fit into the Ra materials?

[PWeiland@...]

board,
while reading the ra material. i notice that no mention was ever made
of the holy spirit (hs). while i believe in the ra materail is a
great spring board for spiritual growth, i am surprise that the hs is
not mentioned while it seems to be a corner stone in christainity,
the course in miracles (cim), and even hiduism. i do not know if it
is in buddhism or islam. the cim says the the hs is basically
the "call back to god" and that the hs can see both the real world
and the world of illusions. ra say that he can also see the
illusions while also seeing the "truth."

can some explain to me the equivalence of the hs in the ra material
or explain to me how the "theory" of the hs is a distortion of some
teaching, or how the hs is just a valuable teaching tool being used
by other systems of teaching?

the cim also says since the hs was created by god, it is eternal and
is gods answer to the separation. how can it be god's answer and not
be the primary method used to get back to god in all systems of
spiritual growth?

any help in helping me to understand this seeming "split" in my
understanding of the aforementioned materials would be greatly
appreciated!

thank you

paul

[David Wilcock]

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><font face="tahoma" size="2">from: pweiland@kgo.csc.com [mailto:pweiland@kgo.csc.com]
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<span class="310525019-25082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span>board,
while reading the ra material. i notice that no mention was ever made
of the holy spirit (hs). while i believe in the ra materail is a
great spring board for spiritual growth, i am surprise that the hs is
not mentioned while it seems to be a corner stone in christainity,
the course in miracles (cim), and even hiduism.
<span class="310525019-25082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="310525019-25082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">[david wilcock]in "the people of the secret" by ernest scott, (a pen name for joseph campbell,) it is explained that in the council of nicaea in 325 ad, arius found scriptural proof that god the father, god the son and god the holy spirit represented distinct realms of being, populated by conscious lifeforms. emperor constantine of rome had originally convened the group of scholars so that its unanimous vote would represent the word of god. arius had one other scholar who supported him, and they showed the documentation to prove it. since this would shoot holes in the cosmology and leave room for other faiths to gain equal political power, constantine called this the "arian heresy" and kicked arius and his supporter out of the council. then, they carefully insured that these references would not be included in the final text. campbell calls this "nothing more than an overt act of political gamesmanship."</font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="310525019-25082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="310525019-25082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">ra explains that many different systems have different explanations for the various realms of being, and they do say that it is unfortunate that so many different gradations and classifications have been given, as it can cause a great deal of confusion. it is possible that ra's version of trinity would be that "intelligent infinity" is the father-mother god, "intelligent energy" is the holy spirit and the "logos" is the androgynous son. of course these trinitarian concepts are echoed in egyptian and vedic cosmologies among others - for example, in egypt it is isis - osiris - seth. joe mason at www.greatdreams.com (http://www.greatdreams.com) has done a lot of good work on all of this.</font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="310525019-25082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="310525019-25082001"></span>i do not know if it
is in buddhism or islam. the cim says the the hs is basically
the "call back to god" and that the hs can see both the real world
and the world of illusions. ra say that he can also see the
illusions while also seeing the "truth."

can some explain to me the equivalence of the hs in the ra material
or explain to me how the "theory" of the hs is a distortion of some
teaching, or how the hs is just a valuable teaching tool being used
by other systems of teaching?

the cim also says since the hs was created by god, it is eternal and
is gods answer to the separation. how can it be god's answer and not
be the primary method used to get back to god in all systems of
spiritual growth?

any help in helping me to understand this seeming "split" in my
understanding of the aforementioned materials would be greatly
appreciated!

<span class="310525019-25082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">[david wilcock]one final word is that i would encourage you not to get overly tied up in technique.labels and classification are fine, but in the end itall boils down to the intensity and purity of your seeking, and your willingness to accept the honor / duty of recognizing the one creator as your true self.</font></span></tt>
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><tt><span class="310525019-25082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">peace be with you -</font></span></tt>
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><tt><span class="310525019-25082001"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">- david</font></span></tt>
><tt><span class="310525019-25082001"></span>
thank you

paul</tt>

[PWeiland@...]

david,
thanks a lot for the answer on the holy spirit.

paul