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Seek Up
08-29-2003, 04:34 PM
(Quo'tes - 11.15.87)



...we wish to acknowledge first of all our compassion for the deep ache and
loneliness of Those who feel that they are strangers in a strange land



You will feel life more acutely moment by moment than others [who] are more
comfortably lulled and distracted by the various gadgets and toys of your
culture. Wanderers remain more of the time aware of the energies which riffle
the waters of peaceful consciousness and break down Ideals into ethics and
ethics into situations.



in the currency of love, it matters not how much you have, but that your
*intention* be to increase the Flow of that infinite supply of love which is the
result of your constant awareness of your contact with the infinite One.



We ask you to think of yourselves as seeds. All that is is the Creator. You are
the Creator. You are love. You speak and gesture and move in love, and you see
love from all whom you meet. The distortions of love are many, so that love
expresses itself often in negative forms, yet *all are on the path*, by the side
of the path, sleeping by the side of the path, or somewhere in the vicinity of
the path. It is impossible for that seed to be lost. You are very young
expressions of the Face of the Creator. Those who are wanderers will find it
easier than those who have been moving through third density for the first time
to make the choice of service to others. It will seem more obvious.



***My children, the Creator is a love that is Astonishing in its intensity. The
imagination reels at the infinity of creation. Yet this love is that which
built, created, energized and enlivened all that there is with only a tiny
portion of infinite energy. This is a love which is awakening within you, the
love of the co-Creator for the Creator, the love of the child for the Father,
the love of the beginning for the Source and the End. Center yourselves upon
love and compassion.***



Attempt to intend well and to be harmless and above all to love each other. And
when you consider yourself to have failed, grieve if you wish, but not overlong,
for the intention is that which is recorded spiritually, the action within the
illusion relatively incidental.



We ask you to Nurture the relationship betwixt yourself and the Creator, tuning,
honing and intensifying the joy and love that you feel in communion with the One
Who Is All, so that you may tap into the bubbling, joyous, free ecstasy which
love is. This exercise of *homing upon the Creator brings each entity, no matter
what its vibratory level, to the highest level possible for that entity at that
time.*



Each of us has still lessons to learn, and the source of the answer to the
questions we have to ask, at whatever level they are, is the infinite Creator
which is within each and every piece of conscIousness. Trust yourself more and
more deeply. Woo your own unconscious as does the lover the maiden, gently,
lovingly and caressingly, and respect those things which you receive in dreams,
visions and intuitionS.



And above all, know that you are doing that which you came here to do. You
*cannot get far off track*, for those forces within you which you devised before
incarnation shall forever be giving you the proper vector toward the action that
is Appropriate. May your communion with inFinite intelligence be ever more
wonderful, and may your trust in each morning, each noontime, and each Eventide
be sufficient for you to do the will of your greater self, of that self which is
closer to the Father and Mother of All That There Is. Each of you shall shine
from within. May you also shine to yourselves. May you love and respect the
Creator within you. Wanderer or native, these things are so, in our humble
opinion.



Because you are so receptive, we wish especially to caution each to know that we
are not infallible, but only your brothers and sisters somewhat more along a
path than you, knowing the terrain, where the potholes are, where the rockslides
might occur, and we come back to you, wanderers of our kind, in thought. We wish
we could take every boulder out of your way and fill every treacherous piece of
ground, so that you could walk straight and plain upon the path of seeking.
Alas, we must watch you toil uphill and stumble down, become weary and find
despair. Yet we and many others are **right there with you in that despair**,
and if you request aid from the Comforter, such shall be offered to you
immediately. You have only mentally to ask, and you will no longer be dealing
with pain without help. Some call these entities guides, some call them the Holy
Spirit. Whatever the name, the function is nurturing. For a wanderer this is
sometimes vitally important.



Wanderer, in your agony, you shall comfort many; in your loneliness you shall
share love, and every tear, every ache, every pain can be, if you respect these
feelings, a crystallized bitter-sweet gift to the Creator, a memento of a
dramatic play which seemed to have an unhappy ending. Trust that it is *only
play* and that your true life-stream dances and rejoices. So in the end may
wanderers reclaim within the illusion their deeper selves. Mourn first and then
rejoice.




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Jason Wharton
08-29-2003, 04:49 PM
What is likely to become of a wanderer who came here and became so miserable
that they got hooked on substances rather than dealing with the pain and
ultimately it ended up costing them their life?

Jason Wharton

Stephen Tyman
08-29-2003, 10:33 PM
"What is likely to become of a wanderer who came here and became so miserable
that they got hooked on substances rather than dealing with the pain and
ultimately it ended up costing them their life?" -- Jason Wharton


I think, Jason, the Wanderer simply wanders a longer path. Oddly, since there
are no mistakes at the metaphysical level, this detour may profitably be viewed
as a creative voyage of discovery.
The agony-soothing words from Q'uo I remember well. Somber times they
were. Harsh and cruel catalyst seems to find deeper nooks into which to settle
in souls very sensitive. In this life to love is to lose. Not to love,
however, is to lose also, only without the consolation of love. Thank you,
seeker, for those words. Adonai, Stephen


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Georg Family
08-30-2003, 09:59 AM
What is likely to become of a wanderer who came here and became so miserable
that they got hooked on substances rather than dealing with the pain and
ultimately it ended up costing them their life?

Jason Wharton




Detlef:
I only can speak for my self and the way I understand it. Even so all wanderer
come here with a different
set up (blue print) I am sure they all come in with a lot of protection. To a
point were a lot of things are controlled, or they can feel tho be that way. For
example: One likes the alcohol and one day at the bar one starts lifting a glass
of something only to put it back and never drink alcohol again. There is simply
no desire for it. This can happen with cigarettes, coffee and many other things.
It is not clear to me to what degree it is control through guides or ones own
ability to let go of unwanted behaviours. After all, a lot of wanderers have
done this before.
If some body really leaves, earlier than planed, than they simply go back were
they came from. When I checked back on that, I found out,that it is possible to
get lost in the reincarnation cycle but very unlikely.
Regards


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Lesley Schultz
08-30-2003, 05:38 PM
Dear Stephen and Seeker, L/L & Peace to All:
--- Stephen Tyman <sttyman@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=zOY5e7fWQafTLEibNqZ4Rs8AT6F500_iiCQ_7K 9w5Hd6UlaqjQ6PVbTXX_sYLZ4xf6OQ2EGk7sY)> wrote:
>
The agony-soothing words from Q'uo I remember
> well. Somber times they were. Harsh and cruel
> catalyst seems to find deeper nooks into which to
> settle in souls very sensitive. In this life to
> love is to lose. Not to love, however, is to lose
> also, only without the consolation of love. Thank
> you, seeker, for those words. Adonai, Stephen
>
LS: Yes, that goes triple for me. I don't know how to
thank you, Seeker, for posting that Q'uote. I was
feeling mighty low when it appeared, as right now
dealing with a lot of catalyst.

I think it's easier for Wanderers to feel cut off and
isolated, because in many ways they are so different
from the general run of humanity. Only the reminder
that they are not alone and the comfort from the other
densities, plus the wonderful work of entities trying
to deliver messages of peace and hope and
encouragement from "home", can keep us going. There
is nothing that could ever repay the generosity and
act of pure love given by Carla and Jim and other
folks, for helping to us Wanderers out in the field.

Thank you again, a zillion times.

Blessings,
~lesley

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rueckert
09-02-2003, 08:16 AM
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What is likely to become of a wanderer who came here and became so miserable
that they got hooked on substances rather than dealing with the pain and
ultimately it ended up costing them their life?

Hey Jase- According to the Law of One, we'd have to be inside the person's
head and heart and know from the inside out whether the soul had attached to
itself adhering karma in the process of living and dying within this
incarnation. If the energies between self and other self or selves were
unbalanced at the time of departure, then that soul will choose to repeat
incarnation in this density, being unable to move into fuller light with
such lessons left to learn, or to put it another way, with such an imbalance
within the energy body as regards loving and being loved- the basic lesson
of third density.

Blessings and L/L- wol

Jason Wharton



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Lesley Schultz
09-02-2003, 11:29 AM
Dear Carla and Jason, L/L & Peace to All:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Wharton [mailto:jwharton@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=BJhK-9OldkAqhAkfPVNPnb4NtxkckvBjb04nY8NSqHx49ObBPtuYVqg o9jujXwvieLSOKusA_m92OX-u)]
> snip> What is likely to become of a wanderer who
came here > and became so miserable > that they got
hooked on substances rather than > dealing with the
pain and > ultimately it ended up costing them their
life?
> snip>
> CR: Hey Jase- According to the Law of One, we'd
have to > be inside the person's > head and heart and
know from the inside out whether > the soul had
attached to > itself adhering karma in the process of
living and > dying within this > incarnation. If the
energies between self and other > self or selves were
> unbalanced at the time of departure, then that soul
> will choose to repeat > incarnation in this density,
being unable to move > into fuller light with
> such lessons left to learn, or to put it another
> way, with such an imbalance > within the energy body
as regards loving and being > loved- the basic lesson
> of third density.

LS: Perhaps a Wanderer might find alcohol and drugs a
less satisfactory escape from the agony of being here
than persons who are native to this density, if only
because 1) sorrow knows how to swim and 2) drug
addiction would simply magnify and extend the mental
suffering even further into the physical realm. Thus,
everything is made very much worse. However, if a
Wanderer was attempting to repolarize on a negative
path, alcohol and substance abuse might just be a
useful catalyst.

As Carla says, there are very simple ways in which the
preincarnative Wanderer may attempt to minimize
opportuntites for addiction. One might be to build in
an intolerance for alcohol, another might be an
allergy to popular drugs of one kind or another. If
none of these gating capacities are present, then
evidently the opportunity for catalyst is being
allowed. While it's hard to be grateful for the
catalyst of alcohol or drug addiction, I have heard
former addicts who have graduated from 12-step
programs say that the experience of moving past the
addiction is a profound one.

I do know from personal experience that the Self
confronting the Self for the first time is an amazing
experience, one I wouldn't have missed for the world.
In my case it was more a crisis of faith than a
chemical crisis, but the result was very similar. It
was so painful that I would never recommend my path to
others, nor would I want to repeat the experience, but
I am grateful to my Higher Self for giving me the
opportunity for having it.

Despair leading to suicide is another issue, and
something of an ancillary one to the substance abuse
opportunity. This happens too, unfortunately, to
Wanderers in the field. I would like to think that it
wouldn't be just one issue that was putting a Wanderer
over the edge, but a combination of things that
together made him or her blind to the tools to manage
the sources of pain. The pain feels like a prison,
from which no escape is possible. The sad truth is
that it is within each of us to set ourselves free, if
we will.

The ability to accept love and to give it is central
to the 3D existence, as Carla reminds us. Maybe those
who are STO have a natural predisposition towards
giving forms of love at the expense of accepting it,
while the reverse may be true for those that are STS.
While there are hardly ever negative Wanderers,
according to Ra, as they fear the forgetting process,
repolarization is always a possibility in incarnation
in 3D-- when the Wanderer goes out into the field,
everything is put on the line.

I think, if I didn't know that 3D here is almost over,
I might be tempted to despair too as the world seems
so full of pain and darkness, and one's light so small
and frail. How can it really do very much good to keep
it burning? Yet if one is a Wanderer, one cannot but
be what one is, right to the end.

Blessings,
~lesley



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rueckert
09-02-2003, 12:50 PM
How can it really do very much good to keep
it burning? Yet if one is a Wanderer, one cannot but
be what one is, right to the end.

Blessings,
~Lesley

Hey Leslie,

How much good can one candle do?

One candle can be seen over a mile away.

One candle points the way

One candle keeps the watch.

One candle tells the truth.

One candle shall never be overcome.

We are all frail reeds. I put a whole lot of truth about personal frailty in
Wanderer's Handbook especially, for the reason that I wanted seekers to be
really struck by the amount of imperfection in Don, me and how such frail
reeds as we yet still were able to serve. To me, the work with Confederation
beings like Q'uo and Ra has been a blessing.- - it didn't happen coz we were
perfect, Leslie. Our candles flutter in the wind just like Marilyn's and
Diana's. But oh, Les, the light of each candle. The strength of each frail
reed.

Take courage. And shine on, sweet soul.

L/L- wol