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Jeremy Weiland
06-20-2003, 06:35 AM
> For Ra, all direct conflicts are
> side stepped. In nature these can
> be observed. Simple triadic harmonies
> come to mind as color or musical
> combinations that stimulate joy.
>
> In avoidance of direct conflict,
> there must be advantage in deminishing
> distortion, to love on a higher level.

If one can do this, there is great power and peace in
it, surely.

However, one thing to keep in mind is that the big
advantage to taking part in the veiled 3D experience
lies in the fact that direct conflict is so hard to
side step. Conflict is one form of catalyst, and
catalyst is what we are here to experience.

Ra is a 6D entity in which no polarity exists. For
them, conflict is a memory. It is easy to side step
conflict when you identify in a very real and
authentic sense with everything, because without
separation conflict is impossible. They have no veil,
and they see things as they truly are, unlike us. Ra
is speaking of reality, but our experience in 3D is in
many ways not representative of the true workings of
the universe. It is almost like an artificial
environment set up to develop a very subtle part of
the self.

Conflict is not to be avoided, necessarily (IMHO); it
is to be understood. That Ra already understands it
is obvious - and we need to ask what we can learn from
it so that we can reach the same understanding. This
is not to say we should walk into every conflict and
start beating people down. Rather, understand that
conflict is part of the lesson we programmed for
ourselves, and being involved in it is not a failure
by any means.

Jeremy

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waterflame5
06-20-2003, 11:50 AM
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That Ra already understands it is obvious - and we
need to ask what we can learn from it so that we
can reach the same understanding.

Conflict derived from an illusion
of separation. That we whittle the
issues down to black and white,
right and wrong, as acts of blatant
separation in efforts to simplify.
And why simplify? Is it our limited
comprehension cannot handle the
capacity of infinite wisdom?
"We have a fondness of naming",
(from the study guide) our
very act of compartamentalizing
and labeling is testament to this.

The fractal nature of things
reveals that every "right" contains
a portion of "right" and "wrong"
so cannot truly be completely
"right." The illusion of separation
promotes the corresponding illusion
of "righteosness."

Our language is structured to
promote conflict, not deminish
distortion.
Or is it how we use our language?

Lesley Schultz
06-20-2003, 01:18 PM
My Very Dear Pat, L/L & Peace to All:

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>snip> Our language is structured to > promote
conflict, not deminish > distortion.
> Or is it how we use our language?

LS: Language, like any other human 3D effort, is not
perfect and it's nature is to put a name to thoughts
and feelings and actions. Already, then, the capacity
exists for judgement to create separation by saying
some things are "good" and others are "bad."
There is certainly an inherent problem with language
itself, and you're right about this.

One can use extraordinary care in how one uses
language and still be misinterpreted or misunderstood
because communication between people usually has audio
and visual/facial/bodily expression components- not
just letters on a page. Thus, it is not entirely
written and verbal language that expresses separation.


Does anyone remember reading about Helen Keller's
childhood, and her teacher and mentor Anne Sullivan?
Helen was blind and deaf, it was thought that she
could never speak either, and in her dark and silent
world there was no language, and nothing like
organized thought. There was only emotion. Having
Anne make the breakthrough to teach her to understand
language magically opened her world up to the
wonderful and glorious things that we take for granted
every day- what is a table, what is a glass, what is
water, what is rain? Now she knew these things. It
also gave her a framework on which to hang the essence
of her thinking: action, reaction, evaluation,
re-direction or repeat. This is the process of
discovery, and this too is a part of what 3D is about.

Helen eventually learned how to speak and to write,
and did wonderful work writing and lecturing to many,
many people. Look at what language did for her. It
isn't all bad.

Think about the nature of thoughts, and then poetry
and music. Poetry and music can create emotional
spaces never experienced before by listeners or
readers. Literature can take you places you could
never go any other way, into the minds and thoughts of
many different kinds of people in all kinds of
interesting and fascinating places. The power of
language can provide marvellous catalyst to change and
grow and learn. If it did not, we wouldn't be on this
list.

In 4D our sleeping psi/telepathic communication will
awaken and be much easier to use, not only with each
other but with animals and plants and things of the
earth and sky. Thought, memory, emotion and being will
eventually take over the clunky mechanism of language,
but one has to begin somewhere.

I've studied French, Russian, German, Latin and
Hebrew. Languages are marvellous things, like
wonderful and unique wines, with their own bouquet and
flavor layers. All are different, all are wonderful,
and with a uniqueness of expression that it's hard to
quantify. Literature is often studied along with
language, so that one can gain an understanding of the
subtleties of these unique expressions. I have read
much literature from each language [except Hebrew].
Translation, when it's very good, gives only a shadow
of the native beauty of the emotions and thoughts
expressed. Like the beauty of a forest is different
from that of a beach, or the majesty of snow-covered
mountains is beautiful unlike the desolate,
unforgiving, but soul-stirring and introspective
loveliness of the desert, languages are similarly
wonderful in their way.

Truly, if one wanted all the richness of expression
possible in 3D, one would have to learn all of the
languages spoken on earth. And then one would be
qualified to say that true expression is not possible
in language and language creates more division than it
heals.

As you can tell, I love language, imperfect as it is.
One day we can share experiences and emotions and
thoughts together without making imprecise noises, but
until then, the barrier of language makes us work at
learning to love each other. Jeremy is definitely
right about that.

Right and wrong, of course, being illusory and silly.
Pat, you are wonderful and perfect at all times, and
you're right even when I don't agree with you!! ;-)

Blessings,
~lesley



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