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Tony E. P.
06-18-2003, 12:32 AM
About allergies, and taking allergy medicine, is that a bad idea for
whatever reason? Is it better to just go through it all without any
medicine?
madonnafra
06-18-2003, 08:48 AM
Our Most Powerful Connection with GOD is found Within while Outdoors as Well
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Brian Cox
06-18-2003, 11:21 AM
in my experience, the best way to avoid allergies is to spend as much
time as possible outside, so you are constantly exposed to the allergens
and can build up a natural resistance. i think alot of people's allergy
problems have to do with spending an unnatural amount of time in
isolated, sterile environments, so when they are exposed to the allergens
their reactions are much worse than they would have been.
dont take this as medical advice or anything, just my own observation
from my own life...now that i spend alot more time outside than i used
to, i dont have allergies very much at all.
i've also heard of a study where people with outside pets have less
allergies...because their pets bring the allergens in the house and
the people are exposed often, and build up a resistance. same idea.
i personally avoid ALL types of medicines other than one naturally
occuring list-unmentionable that seems to be nature's wonder drug...
-bcox
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Subject: [asc2k] Allergies
About allergies, and taking allergy medicine, is that a bad idea for
whatever reason? Is it better to just go through it all without any
medicine?
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Mark Ruenes
06-18-2003, 11:45 AM
I'll agree with Brian on this one. Again this is not medical advice, but
just being outside helps build your tolerance to the allergens in your area.
I once read an article about some monks that would go and sit at the end of
a nursery right at the beginning of spring, with the wind blowing on their
face so they could inhale all the energy of life the flowers were
experiencing...as well as the pollens, etc. This would build up their
immunity to the allergens.
Take care,
Mark
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Subject: RE: [asc2k] Allergies
in my experience, the best way to avoid allergies is to spend as much
time as possible outside, so you are constantly exposed to the allergens
and can build up a natural resistance. i think alot of people's allergy
problems have to do with spending an unnatural amount of time in
isolated, sterile environments, so when they are exposed to the allergens
their reactions are much worse than they would have been.
dont take this as medical advice or anything, just my own observation
from my own life...now that i spend alot more time outside than i used
to, i dont have allergies very much at all.
i've also heard of a study where people with outside pets have less
allergies...because their pets bring the allergens in the house and
the people are exposed often, and build up a resistance. same idea.
i personally avoid ALL types of medicines other than one naturally
occuring list-unmentionable that seems to be nature's wonder drug...
-bcox
waterflame5
06-18-2003, 03:08 PM
I've heard a pinch of local bee pollen
helps - like the hair of the dog that
bit you. Personally, cutting down on
dairy products helps me - reduces the
mucous generation. Taking Vitamin C
and Pantothenic Acid supplements also
helps. Lately I've found relief with
the Rooibos tea. Occasionally I'll get
a great ressonation that will clear my
sinus - like some Grace of God. That
usually happens after one of my more
productive posts. Happened last night
for example: I was meditating and the
back of my head just felt an incredible
vibration - then 5 minutes later this
sinus infection just completely purged
and I could breath clear. Wow, I gave
thanks to Ra for that. I'm pretty sure
it is related because whenever I pick
up the Ra materials I feel blissful.
maria
06-18-2003, 05:41 PM
There are some great homeopathic allergy meds that I take for spring/fall -
pollen/ragweed, sinus relief/ as well as homepathic drops for itchy eyes. Many
of the over the counter meds have serious side effects where as the homeopathic
meds have little to no side effects and enhance your immune system. mi dos
centavos!!! maria
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waterflame5
06-18-2003, 10:14 PM
Sorry, forgot to mention there is a great Homeopathic
remedy called "Hayfever"...just put a couple capsules
under the tongue during an alergy attack and usually
it will calm it down. Never noticed a side effect with it.
Dinesh
06-19-2003, 05:39 AM
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=rXF82RGuXnMW5h9oFIITkprjXMiKxZI2h60iVr uyZTg5wqHxqbiGVJmj7hid7RU7TDHXSipW6Rp3LQ9YUO0NdQ), "Tony E. P." <doomstars@y...> wrote:
> About allergies, and taking allergy medicine, is that a bad idea
for
> whatever reason? Is it better to just go through it all without any
> medicine?
Some mainstream medicines are hard to avoid especially in case of
high level discomfort.In some cases of allergy some simple things
like a few drops of Castor oil before retiring continued for a month
or so helps.If possible try to find the source of the allergy.
Mark Ruenes
06-19-2003, 10:37 AM
Almost forgot, I heard that taking one teaspoon of Local Honey a day will
help with allergies in your area.
Mark
Lesley Schultz
06-19-2003, 11:40 AM
Dear Mark, L/L & Peace to All:
--- Mark Ruenes <thrak@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=OiBE7AAz8jxgTp5L4BUjANK2i7AIJbIIc2MzRq PmIvx65ipV-ByGMTxP5sbF7LggdJ07R_PLIfZ4R-zEW151)> wrote:
> Almost forgot, I heard that taking one teaspoon of
> Local Honey a day will > help with allergies in your
area.
>
LS: I've heard that too. Don't have a lot of problem
with allergies, but my green tea tastes better with a
bit of local honey! ;-)
PS. Never, ever, give unpasturized honey to an infant
or a small child. Apparently, there is a risk of a
kind of botulism associated with this.
Blessings,
~lesley
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Chris
06-19-2003, 12:58 PM
Hi everyone,
I have been watching this thread, so decided to find out what the definition of
an allergy is. Here it is:
"alà‚Âà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚·lerÃà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚ƒÃ‚‚àƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚‚ÂÃà ‚‚·gy [ ÃÂà ƒÂ‚ƒÃƒÂ‚à ƒÂ‚¡llrjee ] (plural alà‚Âà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚·lerÃà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚ƒÃ‚‚àƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚‚ÂÃà ‚‚·gies) noun
1. hypersensitivity to a substance: unusual sensitivity to a normally harmless
substance that, when breathed in, ingested, or brought into contact with the
skin, provokes a strong reaction from the person?s body. The body is sensitized
by the immune system?s response to the first exposure to the substance, and the
reaction takes place only upon subsequent exposures."
Ok, guess that last sentence made me go, hmmmm, to Mark's answer. If the
reaction increases with each exposure, why would someone want to stand out in a
field of hay, let's say, to try and make it better? Just a thought, as Tif would
say :) Chris
Brian Cox
06-19-2003, 01:07 PM
maybe if the body is exposed to a substance frequently in
smaller doses, it affects the immune system differently than
if the body is only exposed to the substance in shorter, larger
bursts...kinda like the way your body's metabolism is faster
if you eat smaller meals more often, instead of one or two
large meals a day...
> From: Chris [mailto:chris.hamilton2@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=myfqkT7DnVSlA18H67qdXaQHBe3AgCah_KWGUd A5c1cmXTowl9jNqcAG7FYPrHKMeb5JvQ6jj9463v-e_QITQD1o5Co)]
> Ok, guess that last sentence made me go, hmmmm, to Mark's answer.
> If the reaction increases with each exposure, why would someone
> want to stand out in a field of hay, let's say, to try and make
> it better? Just a thought, as Tif would say :) Chris
Chris
06-19-2003, 01:17 PM
Maybe we can appeal to someone who is a doctor on the list? Chris
maybe if the body is exposed to a substance frequently in
smaller doses, it affects the immune system differently than
if the body is only exposed to the substance in shorter, larger
bursts...kinda like the way your body's metabolism is faster
if you eat smaller meals more often, instead of one or two
large meals a day...Brian
Tarzan
06-19-2003, 09:25 PM
Ok, I'm getting allergic to this thread. ;-)
I am not a doctor, but any allopathic doctor would be generally clueless about
the truth this topic anyway, not the accepted
allopathic fiction. No doctor will dare to share one's own honest opinions, lest
they lose their license. I've received private
e-mails from doctors agreeing with me on my points that I had made about
diets/health, but they made it clear that it is
professional suicide if they were to step outside of the party line. I'll share
what I know about allergies.
The vast majority of allergies are diet-related, something like 90%+. Most
people's diets create allergy-reactive conditions in
their bodies from the foods that they eat and when the outside allergens are
inhaled, it's the proverbial feather/straw that breaks
the back and the body goes into overload, thus triggering the classic allergy
reactions of violent rejections (sneezing, fluids,
etc) of the 'lil buggers.
Most people's diets create the conditions in which their bodies are constantly
fighting what they are eating, thus create numerous
conditions that include allergic-reactive situations. The solution is to change
one's diet. Yes, pastuerized dairy is a major
trigger for allergic-reactive conditions, so, too, are many other foods, most of
which are cooked. Those foods need to be
discarded.
Some topical remedies can help with the symptoms, but not the cause, which is
one's diet.
Raw foods is the best way to heal one's body. The added energy that you would
get from living on uncooked foods will enable one to
tackle other issues that may have been put on the backburner because of the more
immediate diet-related conditions that may dominate
one's reality, like allergies. I personally know of several people who used to
be highly allergic to many things in the air, but,
after changing their diets, none of them have any allergy of any kind and they
are blissful about their cessation of the irritating
allergic conditions, so now they are free to focus on other issues. The issue
of tissues is diet, hence the cure is also one's
diet.
~Seth
bob_dunham
06-20-2003, 05:42 AM
Im not disagreeing with you, but I eat all the same stuff as one of
my friends, and have no allergies, where as he is totally "knocked
out." It seems like diet must only be like 25% of the equation based
on that.
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=LLUBHspUutODEcyODiSwA91ioAe6jbnVCqHGy5 mumj9YbmYD_uYXxp93GcYZoobmJpVOTPZfdIG4yGzYMIRkSg), "Tarzan" <tarzan@n...> wrote:
> Ok, I'm getting allergic to this thread. ;-)
>
> I am not a doctor, but any allopathic doctor would be generally
clueless about the truth this topic anyway, not the accepted
> allopathic fiction. No doctor will dare to share one's own honest
opinions, lest they lose their license. I've received private
> e-mails from doctors agreeing with me on my points that I had made
about diets/health, but they made it clear that it is
> professional suicide if they were to step outside of the party
line. I'll share what I know about allergies.
>
> The vast majority of allergies are diet-related, something like 90%
+. Most people's diets create allergy-reactive conditions in
> their bodies from the foods that they eat and when the outside
allergens are inhaled, it's the proverbial feather/straw that breaks
> the back and the body goes into overload, thus triggering the
classic allergy reactions of violent rejections (sneezing, fluids,
> etc) of the 'lil buggers.
>
> Most people's diets create the conditions in which their bodies are
constantly fighting what they are eating, thus create numerous
> conditions that include allergic-reactive situations. The solution
is to change one's diet. Yes, pastuerized dairy is a major
> trigger for allergic-reactive conditions, so, too, are many other
foods, most of which are cooked. Those foods need to be
> discarded.
>
> Some topical remedies can help with the symptoms, but not the
cause, which is one's diet.
>
> Raw foods is the best way to heal one's body. The added energy
that you would get from living on uncooked foods will enable one to
> tackle other issues that may have been put on the backburner
because of the more immediate diet-related conditions that may
dominate
> one's reality, like allergies. I personally know of several people
who used to be highly allergic to many things in the air, but,
> after changing their diets, none of them have any allergy of any
kind and they are blissful about their cessation of the irritating
> allergic conditions, so now they are free to focus on other
issues. The issue of tissues is diet, hence the cure is also one's
> diet.
>
> ~Seth
Dinesh
06-20-2003, 08:12 AM
Regarding homeopathic allergy medicines I heard of Dr Reckewegs two
combinations , one for food allergy and the other inhalent allergy
drops.Has anyone tried them?
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=HpHF4SvgVIaD4zE5eh75P2nbqgZ7q-9QHaQc1Ubf10LijwNRASJZkNGWZXNg9iNDBNiuN0e8uvORUGif gg), "bob_dunham" <bob_dunham@h...> wrote:
> Im not disagreeing with you, but I eat all the same stuff as one of
> my friends, and have no allergies, where as he is totally "knocked
> out." It seems like diet must only be like 25% of the equation
based
> on that.
maria
06-20-2003, 03:28 PM
I use BioAllers Pollen/Hayfever relief drops and A.Vogel Homeopathic for sinus
relief. It's a pretty decent product. Antiallergy formula from Freeda Vitamins
has a combinatin of quercetin, calcium panthothenate, and Vic. C, and coenzyme
Q10 counters histamine for asthma and allergy suffers. Stinging nettle is also
wards off severe allergic reactions.
Food allergies is a whole new ballgame. Your best bet is to omit the food from
your diet for 2 weeks and then reintroduce it. Then record a reaction after
eating it. Trust me, you'll know if your allergic. Some common symptoms are:
hives, upset stomach, bloating/gas, rapid pulse, headache, fatigue, etc.. When
I did this, under the supervision of holistic physician, I found I was allergic
to wheat/glutin, corn, & yeast. I'm on a pretty restricted diet but feel
great! I could go on and on about food allergies and diet. But there are many
other websites that offer this type of info. and support. Dr. Mercola (holisitic
physician) has a great free newsletter that goes out every few days.
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