Rod Johnson
11-29-2000, 05:40 PM
Rhonda,
Your subject enthusiasm covers all of the areas of my personal interest. So,
of course you have my attention.
I am going to respond in a spontaneous fashion to aspects of your first post
as they grab my mind.
Paragraph 1 Major chemtrails research...
I have a subdued interest in the chemtrail issues. I had a first hand
experience with the phenomenon in the Oregon wilderness 30 miles up the
Smith River out of Reedsport. What dose your research involve?
Paragraph 3
In 1986 I wrote a 740 page book, An Exploration of Apocalypse. It was a
chronology of mythos and prophesy followed in technical detail and
theoretical implications. I explored in it the sequences of possible
cataclysms as both part of prophecy and scientific projections. I dealt with
the "Gondharva" much as David has presented it. I also added a geophysical
theory and a solar astrophysical theory of my own. The solar Astro-theory
has been since realized by science institutions and the geophysical theory
is on the present edge of science thinking. I never published the book but I
have abstracted the more notable theoretical work and some humanistic
touches, some of which I have share with David.
They now exist in a series of e-mail exchanges which I have had with David
and I make them available to any and all interested people. Some of the
series have attachments in Word2000 format as I have not yet converted them
to HTML.
I am aware of Sri Babaji teachings through the long time sharing with a very
close friend. I enjoyed your additions of his words.
Continue in your enthusiasm for the Ascension concepts and the Law of One.
Share with us some of your personal and specific insights.
Peculiar Travel suggestions are always dancing lessons from God. Accept them
even if you know you will get your shins kicked and your toes stepped on.
Have fun with the dance.
Rod Deebokonon
As a note: According to Kurt Vonegutt Jr, in the island dialect of San
Lorence, the term boko means the beloved. Hence, in bible association it
became the name John. The affix non is for son and nan is for daughter.
Therefore the term Bokonon can mean beloved son or the name Johnson. My
middle name is Dee and as for the term Bokonon I qualify for both of its
meanings.
rodj@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=IRuaSMLLBhee4NifCQjy2vKMAXbelSBW80YlX_ IV9IycFaXpAA0APC6q47Am230QaoqW8nY)
----- Original Message -----
From: Rhonda Greif
To: asc2k@egroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=ve5o2bgu4oKv67FroSURwYM18iSMS7DnRLj6rI jTafeum9adfXM1gFMUqM5CuIizLvJKksVFJwq21rnP)
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 3:13 PM
Subject: [asc2k] Fire - Earthchanges
Namaste.. This is my first post here, please forgive errors or
transgressions. Howdy from Ft Worth, Texas. Finding this site has
been a blessing - the RA studies are excellent & IMHO, the "real
thing!" Joined this board over a month ago but have been in a real
time crunch w/ major chemtrails research... so, I recently copied all
the discussions into my files to print out & read offline -- am now
just getting caught up but why no more emails coming in from the
board? Have had none since Thanksgiving - has the site been hacked or
??? Read that Hoagland's site currently down due to disc problems &
is being reloaded.
Like most of y'all, I seek the path to God enlightenment, self
realization, the clear void... lots of suffering, ups & downs,
disillusion, wrong turns - all natural experiencing of the illusory
path in getting there. The reason I jumped in now to finally make
'contact' is the following reference to FIRE & EARTHCHANGES from
David Wilcock's post on ll/18 really caught my attention:
>obviously this one was well-timed, as here I was just reading an
article and spontaneously got the urge to look up the word
"Gondharva" to see if anyone had written about it on the Net. It is
supposed to be a "fire" that causes Earth Changes at the end of a
major cycle, according to the Hindu Vedas. It is documented in the
book "Gods and Spacemen of the Ancient East" by W. Raymond Drake.<
Well, without trying to get complicated or intending ego, I have
spent many years seriously studying as many things about God as
possible.. trying to learn of all ancient indigenous cultures &
practices, spirituality, religions, etc. Anybody familiar with
Mahavatar Babaji of Yogananda's "Autobiography of a Yogi"? Well, He
directed me to His form of Shri Haidakhan Babaji (manifest in
Haidakhan, India, from 1970 to 1984). The way this happened is a real
cosmic/magic story I will gladly share if anyone wants to hear it -
just let me know.
Sri Babaji has taught much about the coming time of destruction...
the "MAHAKRANTI" purification as prophesied by many spirit traditions
of native peoples -Hopi, Tibetan, Mayan, etc. (I will post these
prophecies if any desire such information). And yes, there has been a
big emphasis on fire cleansing... my understanding is that He will be
manifest in His aspect of "Lord SIVA" the destroyer of old &
regeneration of new when this takes place.
Oh wow.. just now, while writing the paragraph above, an email of his
teachings arrived - I paused to read it - included this statement
"When the time comes, you will have to walk through fire and water."
A big Hmmmmm.... (I have copied the whole message at bottom - it was
sent by Marge DeVivo who coordinates one of His primary websites,
Babaji.net: http://www.babaji.net/home.html )
Am listing below more related teachings Sri Babaji gave on this time
of "Great Destruction" He spoke of:
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
"In order not to provoke Me, you must be quiet at the time of
catastrophe. You must concentrate on Om Namah Shivaya. With this
mantra you can win everything, because it is stronger than all the
bombs.
Babaji mentioned the freedom spoken of and promised by politicians.
Then He said, in effect: "Theirs is no freedom at all. If you work
and are worthy. I shall show you freedom greater than you have ever
dreamed."
= = = = = = = = = = = = = =
26 JULY 1979 (Herakhan)--Some important observations made by Sri
Babaji on the future world events:
The change of the present which is full of turmoil, will be brought
about by bloody revolution. Peace will return only after the
revolution reaches its zenith.
In the aftermath of the revolution-which will be total, no country
will be spared big or small-some countries will be totally erased,
leaving no sign of their existence.
In some 3% to 5% and up to maximum of 25% of the population will be
spared and will survive.
The destruction will be brought about by earthquakes, floods,
accidents, collisions and wars.
The destructive elements which were kept in check by Sri Babaji
have been released to do their worst.
Those who pray to their chosen divinity will not be affected.
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
28 JULY 1979 (Herakhan)
Giving reference to his earlier prediction Shri Babaji foretold that
the revolution (like a scythe) will be total and will be from one end
of the world to another. Revolution spoken about on 26-7-1979, will
increase in tempo, and will reach its culmination point. It will not
be confined to any particular country, but the whole world will be
engulfed, big and small countries alike.
People today are full of misery and unhappiness. Misery and
unhappiness is not confined to the poor, but rich people are affected
too; All are suffering from difficulties, misery, and unhappiness.
The leaders of all countries are busy safeguarding their positions
and have totally ignored their people's needs and interests. These
leaders are misguiding the public. There is complete insecurity.
There is no safety of person or property. New leaders are being
trained and prepared to take over from the (corrupt) leaders who will
restore just and proper order and bring peace.
At present, demonic influences have engulfed men. Man will fight and
devour men and they will destroy each other. First, destruction will
take place, then a lull and then peace will prevail. Some of the
countries will be completely destroyed. Prayer will be the only
safeguard and saviors against destruction. Forget past and future,
abolish all other thoughts, but pray with total concentration of mind
and soul and have full faith in God. Chant OM NAMAH SHIVAYA and you
can defy death. Have no thought about your life and death. No evil
influence will ever come near you if you pray with purity of
heart and mind and with all faith and concentration."
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
(from book, I AM HARMONY by Radhe Shyam )
Babaji often spoke an ancient saying: "Pinda kacha, shabda sacha."
The body is perishable: the Word is eternal." He elaborated on this
theme frequently.
"The fact is.. everything in this world is.. transient. It has no
"reality." True reality is to proceed on the Path of Truth, to keep
the company of saintly people, and to render service to men."
"Leaving behind the fear of death and the hope of life, you must
advance. You should not be afraid of fire and water. When the need
arises, we will have to jump into the ocean: when the time comes, we
must be prepared to jump into the fire. That is why all of you must be
as firm as Mount Meru."
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Last is this email message that came while composing this post as
mentioned previously... message was probably taken from either "I AM
HARMONY" or "TEACHINGS OF BABAJI".
------------------------------------
"Now everyone feels insecure. I want to raise the character of man so
high that people as different as the lion and the goat can live
together without jealousy or hatred - only in love.
"Kindle the Light in yourself, then kindle It in others - one by one.
Just as when the lamp burns it consumes oil, so this Light will
consume idleness, laziness, greed.
"Your duty is to spread my message and bring people to the level of
humanity, rather than their animal level."
"You all think devotion is fun. Some day you will have to jump
without fear of life or death; then you will be able to make
progress. When the time comes, you will have to walk through fire and
water."
"Only the man of courage can live through this time.
"Like spreading light by lighting one candle from another all around
a room, so we should spread love from heart to heart.
"You must all walk in the Path of Truth and give right teachings and
instructions to the world. Everyone should walk the Path of Truth and
teach family, and friends, and all."
Shri Maha Prabhuji says: PHURO!! Jai Maha Maya Ki Jai!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++
I sincerely pray that this sharing of information & teachings brings
benefit to others & generates much wisdom compassion throughout all
Creation. OM AH HUM VAJRA GURU PADMA SIDDHI HUM - HRIH
Truth, Simplicity, Love, and Service to others
Blessings - rhonda
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Your subject enthusiasm covers all of the areas of my personal interest. So,
of course you have my attention.
I am going to respond in a spontaneous fashion to aspects of your first post
as they grab my mind.
Paragraph 1 Major chemtrails research...
I have a subdued interest in the chemtrail issues. I had a first hand
experience with the phenomenon in the Oregon wilderness 30 miles up the
Smith River out of Reedsport. What dose your research involve?
Paragraph 3
In 1986 I wrote a 740 page book, An Exploration of Apocalypse. It was a
chronology of mythos and prophesy followed in technical detail and
theoretical implications. I explored in it the sequences of possible
cataclysms as both part of prophecy and scientific projections. I dealt with
the "Gondharva" much as David has presented it. I also added a geophysical
theory and a solar astrophysical theory of my own. The solar Astro-theory
has been since realized by science institutions and the geophysical theory
is on the present edge of science thinking. I never published the book but I
have abstracted the more notable theoretical work and some humanistic
touches, some of which I have share with David.
They now exist in a series of e-mail exchanges which I have had with David
and I make them available to any and all interested people. Some of the
series have attachments in Word2000 format as I have not yet converted them
to HTML.
I am aware of Sri Babaji teachings through the long time sharing with a very
close friend. I enjoyed your additions of his words.
Continue in your enthusiasm for the Ascension concepts and the Law of One.
Share with us some of your personal and specific insights.
Peculiar Travel suggestions are always dancing lessons from God. Accept them
even if you know you will get your shins kicked and your toes stepped on.
Have fun with the dance.
Rod Deebokonon
As a note: According to Kurt Vonegutt Jr, in the island dialect of San
Lorence, the term boko means the beloved. Hence, in bible association it
became the name John. The affix non is for son and nan is for daughter.
Therefore the term Bokonon can mean beloved son or the name Johnson. My
middle name is Dee and as for the term Bokonon I qualify for both of its
meanings.
rodj@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=IRuaSMLLBhee4NifCQjy2vKMAXbelSBW80YlX_ IV9IycFaXpAA0APC6q47Am230QaoqW8nY)
----- Original Message -----
From: Rhonda Greif
To: asc2k@egroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=ve5o2bgu4oKv67FroSURwYM18iSMS7DnRLj6rI jTafeum9adfXM1gFMUqM5CuIizLvJKksVFJwq21rnP)
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 3:13 PM
Subject: [asc2k] Fire - Earthchanges
Namaste.. This is my first post here, please forgive errors or
transgressions. Howdy from Ft Worth, Texas. Finding this site has
been a blessing - the RA studies are excellent & IMHO, the "real
thing!" Joined this board over a month ago but have been in a real
time crunch w/ major chemtrails research... so, I recently copied all
the discussions into my files to print out & read offline -- am now
just getting caught up but why no more emails coming in from the
board? Have had none since Thanksgiving - has the site been hacked or
??? Read that Hoagland's site currently down due to disc problems &
is being reloaded.
Like most of y'all, I seek the path to God enlightenment, self
realization, the clear void... lots of suffering, ups & downs,
disillusion, wrong turns - all natural experiencing of the illusory
path in getting there. The reason I jumped in now to finally make
'contact' is the following reference to FIRE & EARTHCHANGES from
David Wilcock's post on ll/18 really caught my attention:
>obviously this one was well-timed, as here I was just reading an
article and spontaneously got the urge to look up the word
"Gondharva" to see if anyone had written about it on the Net. It is
supposed to be a "fire" that causes Earth Changes at the end of a
major cycle, according to the Hindu Vedas. It is documented in the
book "Gods and Spacemen of the Ancient East" by W. Raymond Drake.<
Well, without trying to get complicated or intending ego, I have
spent many years seriously studying as many things about God as
possible.. trying to learn of all ancient indigenous cultures &
practices, spirituality, religions, etc. Anybody familiar with
Mahavatar Babaji of Yogananda's "Autobiography of a Yogi"? Well, He
directed me to His form of Shri Haidakhan Babaji (manifest in
Haidakhan, India, from 1970 to 1984). The way this happened is a real
cosmic/magic story I will gladly share if anyone wants to hear it -
just let me know.
Sri Babaji has taught much about the coming time of destruction...
the "MAHAKRANTI" purification as prophesied by many spirit traditions
of native peoples -Hopi, Tibetan, Mayan, etc. (I will post these
prophecies if any desire such information). And yes, there has been a
big emphasis on fire cleansing... my understanding is that He will be
manifest in His aspect of "Lord SIVA" the destroyer of old &
regeneration of new when this takes place.
Oh wow.. just now, while writing the paragraph above, an email of his
teachings arrived - I paused to read it - included this statement
"When the time comes, you will have to walk through fire and water."
A big Hmmmmm.... (I have copied the whole message at bottom - it was
sent by Marge DeVivo who coordinates one of His primary websites,
Babaji.net: http://www.babaji.net/home.html )
Am listing below more related teachings Sri Babaji gave on this time
of "Great Destruction" He spoke of:
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
"In order not to provoke Me, you must be quiet at the time of
catastrophe. You must concentrate on Om Namah Shivaya. With this
mantra you can win everything, because it is stronger than all the
bombs.
Babaji mentioned the freedom spoken of and promised by politicians.
Then He said, in effect: "Theirs is no freedom at all. If you work
and are worthy. I shall show you freedom greater than you have ever
dreamed."
= = = = = = = = = = = = = =
26 JULY 1979 (Herakhan)--Some important observations made by Sri
Babaji on the future world events:
The change of the present which is full of turmoil, will be brought
about by bloody revolution. Peace will return only after the
revolution reaches its zenith.
In the aftermath of the revolution-which will be total, no country
will be spared big or small-some countries will be totally erased,
leaving no sign of their existence.
In some 3% to 5% and up to maximum of 25% of the population will be
spared and will survive.
The destruction will be brought about by earthquakes, floods,
accidents, collisions and wars.
The destructive elements which were kept in check by Sri Babaji
have been released to do their worst.
Those who pray to their chosen divinity will not be affected.
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
28 JULY 1979 (Herakhan)
Giving reference to his earlier prediction Shri Babaji foretold that
the revolution (like a scythe) will be total and will be from one end
of the world to another. Revolution spoken about on 26-7-1979, will
increase in tempo, and will reach its culmination point. It will not
be confined to any particular country, but the whole world will be
engulfed, big and small countries alike.
People today are full of misery and unhappiness. Misery and
unhappiness is not confined to the poor, but rich people are affected
too; All are suffering from difficulties, misery, and unhappiness.
The leaders of all countries are busy safeguarding their positions
and have totally ignored their people's needs and interests. These
leaders are misguiding the public. There is complete insecurity.
There is no safety of person or property. New leaders are being
trained and prepared to take over from the (corrupt) leaders who will
restore just and proper order and bring peace.
At present, demonic influences have engulfed men. Man will fight and
devour men and they will destroy each other. First, destruction will
take place, then a lull and then peace will prevail. Some of the
countries will be completely destroyed. Prayer will be the only
safeguard and saviors against destruction. Forget past and future,
abolish all other thoughts, but pray with total concentration of mind
and soul and have full faith in God. Chant OM NAMAH SHIVAYA and you
can defy death. Have no thought about your life and death. No evil
influence will ever come near you if you pray with purity of
heart and mind and with all faith and concentration."
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
(from book, I AM HARMONY by Radhe Shyam )
Babaji often spoke an ancient saying: "Pinda kacha, shabda sacha."
The body is perishable: the Word is eternal." He elaborated on this
theme frequently.
"The fact is.. everything in this world is.. transient. It has no
"reality." True reality is to proceed on the Path of Truth, to keep
the company of saintly people, and to render service to men."
"Leaving behind the fear of death and the hope of life, you must
advance. You should not be afraid of fire and water. When the need
arises, we will have to jump into the ocean: when the time comes, we
must be prepared to jump into the fire. That is why all of you must be
as firm as Mount Meru."
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Last is this email message that came while composing this post as
mentioned previously... message was probably taken from either "I AM
HARMONY" or "TEACHINGS OF BABAJI".
------------------------------------
"Now everyone feels insecure. I want to raise the character of man so
high that people as different as the lion and the goat can live
together without jealousy or hatred - only in love.
"Kindle the Light in yourself, then kindle It in others - one by one.
Just as when the lamp burns it consumes oil, so this Light will
consume idleness, laziness, greed.
"Your duty is to spread my message and bring people to the level of
humanity, rather than their animal level."
"You all think devotion is fun. Some day you will have to jump
without fear of life or death; then you will be able to make
progress. When the time comes, you will have to walk through fire and
water."
"Only the man of courage can live through this time.
"Like spreading light by lighting one candle from another all around
a room, so we should spread love from heart to heart.
"You must all walk in the Path of Truth and give right teachings and
instructions to the world. Everyone should walk the Path of Truth and
teach family, and friends, and all."
Shri Maha Prabhuji says: PHURO!! Jai Maha Maya Ki Jai!!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++
I sincerely pray that this sharing of information & teachings brings
benefit to others & generates much wisdom compassion throughout all
Creation. OM AH HUM VAJRA GURU PADMA SIDDHI HUM - HRIH
Truth, Simplicity, Love, and Service to others
Blessings - rhonda
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