The Personal Octahedron

[Dave M.]

The next time you get a chance try out this meditation:

Visualize your etheric body as an ovoid sphere. Within that sphere imagine an
octahedron with apex at your crown and the edges at your front, rear, and sides.
The front edge thus corresponding to your chakras and the rear edge to your
spine with the middle corners aligned near the base of the spine and the bottom
corner below your feet.

I tried this and it really seemed to open up my crown chakra. See what you
think.

L&L, Dave


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[Chris Hamilton]

I appreciate alot what you wrote about the octahedron shape, Dave, because I
have a story that is about 4 years old I will tell. The Hampton Roads area
(includes 4 or 5 cities in the Virginia Beach area), having alot of water,
always has small festivals in spring and summer around the water. Vendors
with artistic and all kinds of talents are at these. One festival in '99 I
came across hanging glass figurines, most in certain shapes. And I picked up
a glass icosohedron that had a glass bird suspended within the shape. I hung
it in my kitchen window where it would play with the sun setting. I used
that shape to do impromptu meditations, because I could stand before it and
retain the shape in my mind. It became my shape I guess. I gave the
icosohedron to someone else so they could make it their shape, but I felt
naked without it. I bought another one, this time with a multi-faceted
sphere that is suspended inside. I still do those impromptu meditations too.
Visualization is a very difficult technique which I see you have mastered :)
I need a little help still. Great meditation Dave. Love, Chris

> The next time you get a chance try out this meditation:
>
> Visualize your etheric body as an ovoid sphere. Within that sphere
imagine an octahedron with apex at your crown and the edges at your front,
rear, and sides. The front edge thus corresponding to your chakras and the
rear edge to your spine with the middle corners aligned near the base of the
spine and the bottom corner below your feet.
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> I tried this and it really seemed to open up my crown chakra. See what
you think.
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> L&L, Dave
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[Dave M.]

Nice story Chris...

>I could stand before it and retain the shape in my mind

If you were able to retain the shape in your mind then you were visualizing it,
and the only reason
that you can't do it without the image in front of you is your memory of it, not
a visualization
deficiency. I would think that if you did it often enough the image would
become entrained in your
mind, and you would no longer need it.

>Visualization is a very difficult technique which I see you have mastered :)

I would love to take credit for having mastered it, but to be honest I have
always been visually
oriented so it really didn't require much effort on my part. From what I've
read, about 5%-10% or
so of the population seem to find it natural to visualize while the majority are
more language
oriented. I'm not sure that they know if this is a genetic, learned, or innate
(or otherwise)
predisposition.

L&L, Dave

[Chris Hamilton]

Dave M.: If you were able to retain the shape in your mind then you were
visualizing it, and the only reason that you can't do it without the image
in front of you is your memory of it, not a visualization deficiency. I
would think that if you did it often enough the image would become entrained
in your mind, and you would no longer need it.

Chris: My problem isn't so much remembering the shape, but remembering the
multi-dimensionality of the shape. I can remember a flat image, but I need
to be right in front of the icosa to remember the spatial shape. I have
never been very spatial, admittedly a masculine advantage I have been told
:) I am not spatial, but keep trying. When I remember some dreams, they are
always very visual and I never forget them, but awake, I seem to lose that
extra dimensionality that my dreams naturally have and end up with
sensations mixed with mental 'actions'. Maybe Mawk would call that an
'imprint'. It shuffles to our subconscious and then pops up when we least
suspect it :)

Dave M.: I would love to take credit for having mastered [visualization],
but to be honest I have always been visually oriented so it really didn't
require much effort on my part. From what I've read, about 5%-10% or so of
the population seem to find it natural to visualize while the majority are
more language oriented. I'm not sure that they know if this is a genetic,
learned, or innate (or otherwise) predisposition.

Chris: I would say Yes to genetic, learned and innate:) I would also add
ones' sex-men utilizing more of one side of the brain and females the other
side:). 3D physical bodies can predispose us to 'favor' certain behaviours
;) Well, my icosa helps me. Smile. Love, Chris

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> And I picked up
> a glass icosohedron that had a
> glass bird suspended within the shape.
> I hung it in my kitchen window where
> it would play with the sun setting.
> I used that shape to do impromptu
> meditations, because I could stand
> before it and retain the shape in my
> mind. It became my shape I guess.
> I gave the icosohedron to someone
> else so they could make it their
> shape, but I felt naked without it.

That's curious Chris, I have something
similar, but the one I have is a
cubo-octohedron where the glass surfaces
are square and the triangular openings
are triangular. (Unfortunately, the
hummingbird inside lost a wing.)

Here is a visual directory of polyhedra,
and the shape I'm talking about.
I think it is classed as an irregular
polyhedron, but I'm no expert.
http://www.physics.orst.edu/~bulatov/polyhedra/uniform/index.html
http://www.physics.orst.edu/~bulatov/polyhedra/uniform/u12.html

I was feeling really naked like maybe
you did, so I got a 3" Quartz Sphere,
and holding that in the dark on those
eerie nights helped me find my center.

What is the effect of rocks on an Aura?
Well any hocus pocus or not, it helped
me out, the feeling of that 3" sphere,
its weight, its quasi clarity; I found
it all very comforting, (almost erotic.)
Love, Pat

[Chris Hamilton]

Pat: I was feeling really naked like maybe
> you did, so I got a 3" Quartz Sphere,
> and holding that in the dark on those
> eerie nights helped me find my center.

Chris:I guess different shapes work for different people :) Maybe you should
add a triangle in the center of that "irregular polygon"? Might balance it
more to your vibration, ya know?
>
Pat: What is the effect of rocks on an Aura?
> Well any hocus pocus or not, it helped
> me out, the feeling of that 3" sphere,
> its weight, its quasi clarity; I found
> it all very comforting

Chris:If you take stones and subject them to vibration, some are more
conducive to passing that vibration thru it more easily. I'm not a
scientist. Is that resonance? Anyway, some of those vibratory qualities just
seem to fit an individual's vibrations too, which would indeed comfort you,
supply warmth, a feeling of security. Go for it! Anything that heals the
heart is welcome. LY

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> Chris:I guess different shapes work for different people :) Maybe
you should
> add a triangle in the center of that "irregular polygon"? Might
balance it
> more to your vibration, ya know?

There are visual people
auditory people
and kinesthetic people.
Being kinesthetic dominant,
the 3" clear quartz sphere
felt best for some unknown
reason, (over other materials
and sizes and shapes.)

> Chris:If you take stones and subject them to vibration, some are
more
> conducive to passing that vibration thru it more easily. I'm not a
> scientist. Is that resonance? Anyway, some of those vibratory
qualities just
> seem to fit an individual's vibrations too...

For some reason the sphere helped
me center and balance during trauma. Pat

[Chris]

There are visual people
auditory people
and kinesthetic people.
Being kinesthetic dominant,
the 3" clear quartz sphere
felt best for some unknown
reason, (over other materials
and sizes and shapes.)
For some reason the sphere helped
me center and balance during trauma. Pat

Chris: The all-inclusive sphere, endless , infinite, surrounding one with
wholeness within and without. All other shapes residing within and without. A
very good choice.




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> Chris: The all-inclusive sphere, endless , infinite, surrounding
one with wholeness within and without. All other shapes residing
within and without. A very good choice.
>

Thank you for writing, Chris.
The shape feels good, it is not only
a visual meditation object but a
kinesthetic one too, a feel good shape,
especially in this material.
There is something about that material,
Quartz...I found this page that talks
a little about it.

http://syninfo.com/Crystal/page01.html

There is some talk of its hexagonal
crystal lattice structure that is
intriguing. Personally from my
interest in the Rune lattice, but
also the Hexagonal Vibrational states
of Water as depicted in David's latest
article. Maybe that relates to some
sort of vibrational ressonance that you
mentioned before. Gratefully, Pat