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waterflame5
04-12-2003, 08:15 PM
Dear David,
Thanks for your recent article,
about the Matrix.

"Yet, experience has shown us that very little mainstream attention
is given to such advancements, as the questions that are raised bring
in all the "Pandora's Box" elements of parapsychology and metaphysics"

The timing of your article came not so long after the
mention of the Auric Time Phi Spiral came into discussion.
That is curious...is it related?

Also, your mention of the MASONS sworn to secrecy and so
forth gave the impression that there are things falling
out of this "study" that violate principles of "SAFETY."

Are you a MASON, or are there MASON representative in the
group that can attest to these generalizations?

But back to the Octahedron, the core of your article.
Earlier this year, I spent some time looking at the
Cabalistic "Tree of Life". Through meditation, I found
a 3 Dimensional Analog that consisted of two Octahedrons
that were fused on one face revealed the geometry
of the Tree.

Now, are the Cabalists also a secret society?

Another link you shared - The Enterprise Mission,
has an article from January this year that talks
about "The Knights of Malta" with a Maltese Cross,
having 8 points, are they yet another secret society?
http://web.idirect.com/~malta/knights.htm

Doesn't all this OCCULT secrecy make you a bit edgy,
like how do you know what is SAFE anymore? Is that
another reason this group is closed?

These seem like a lot of unscientific questions,
but they contain emotional importance that would
give a higher degree of understanding.

Sincerely, Pat

David Wilcock
04-12-2003, 08:30 PM
From: "waterflame5"

> "Yet, experience has shown us that very little mainstream attention
> is given to such advancements, as the questions that are raised bring
> in all the "Pandora's Box" elements of parapsychology and metaphysics"
>
> The timing of your article came not so long after the
> mention of the Auric Time Phi Spiral came into discussion.
> That is curious...is it related?

DW: Yes... one of the previous bifurcation points was when Copernicus
discovered that the Sun was at the center of the Solar System. Then we get
3/3/3 as the date when we first learn as a species that the Universe has an
octahedral energy field.

> Also, your mention of the MASONS sworn to secrecy and so
> forth gave the impression that there are things falling
> out of this "study" that violate principles of "SAFETY."

DW: I could easily end up with my brains on the sidewalk for writing what I
write. It is a risk I accept.

> Are you a MASON, or are there MASON representative in the
> group that can attest to these generalizations?

DW: In this lifetime I am not a Mason. I was as Cayce, but I don't think I
went much higher than 4th degree. However, as Ra-Ta I was one of the chief
human collaborators with 6D Ra in bringing forth the teachings that were
then bastardized by the negative elite into the current occult background
now shared by the Masons. It is "Ra's bad" that the Illuminati were formed,
in one sense, which is why we're still here trying to rectify the
imbalances. We did not know that this information would be so distorted into
the hands of a "privileged" few.

> But back to the Octahedron, the core of your article.
> Earlier this year, I spent some time looking at the
> Cabalistic "Tree of Life". Through meditation, I found
> a 3 Dimensional Analog that consisted of two Octahedrons
> that were fused on one face revealed the geometry
> of the Tree.
>
> Now, are the Cabalists also a secret society?

DW: Absolutely - the Cabala has always been a cornerstone of occult
teaching. It is in a number of them and is a well-used Illuminati symbol.

> Another link you shared - The Enterprise Mission,
> has an article from January this year that talks
> about "The Knights of Malta" with a Maltese Cross,
> having 8 points, are they yet another secret society?
> http://web.idirect.com/~malta/knights.htm

DW: Yep.

> Doesn't all this OCCULT secrecy make you a bit edgy,
> like how do you know what is SAFE anymore? Is that
> another reason this group is closed?

DW: These forces are here because the free will of humanity calls them forth
as a balancing measure. The idea is to try to upgrade humanity's
consciousness so that these groups lose the free-will mandate to interfere.
If humanity chose love as a whole today, these groups could be nullified
very quickly - in fact the planet could go 4D, as we're already enough in
the new energy that it is only humanity that is holding the Grid back.
However, I am a bit of a cynic in that I don't really expect the harvest to
be much higher than 5 percent, which is fine. Carla is more optimistic.

> These seem like a lot of unscientific questions,
> but they contain emotional importance that would
> give a higher degree of understanding.

DW: I call this the "burden of wisdom." Once you learn about what is going
on it's not all that pleasant. Nevertheless, it is great catalyst to make
sure that you are not an unwitting participant in the world's largest
(publicly undeclared) religion - selfishness.

Peace be with you -

- David

Ruth Paterson
04-13-2003, 12:33 PM
--- waterflame5 <patrick@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=vyLtFfZXety-rF9ZCQ6YBh0Ol7Q7V8bdpQPFcF-mnANilQb5KxdoK7g-XejIgkmrS3i0jJRjTjI)> wrote:
> Dear David,
> Thanks for your recent article,
> about the Matrix.
>
> "Yet, experience has shown us that very little
> mainstream attention
> is given to such advancements, as the questions that
> are raised bring
> in all the "Pandora's Box" elements of
> parapsychology and metaphysics"
>
> The timing of your article came not so long after
> the
> mention of the Auric Time Phi Spiral came into
> discussion.
> That is curious...is it related?
>
> Also, your mention of the MASONS sworn to secrecy
> and so
> forth gave the impression that there are things
> falling
> out of this "study" that violate principles of
> "SAFETY."
>
> Are you a MASON, or are there MASON representative
> in the
> group that can attest to these generalizations?
>
> But back to the Octahedron, the core of your
> article.
> Earlier this year, I spent some time looking at the
> Cabalistic "Tree of Life". Through meditation, I
> found
> a 3 Dimensional Analog that consisted of two
> Octahedrons
> that were fused on one face revealed the geometry
> of the Tree.
>
> Now, are the Cabalists also a secret society?
>
> Another link you shared - The Enterprise Mission,
> has an article from January this year that talks
> about "The Knights of Malta" with a Maltese Cross,
> having 8 points, are they yet another secret
> society?
> http://web.idirect.com/~malta/knights.htm
>
> Doesn't all this OCCULT secrecy make you a bit edgy,
> like how do you know what is SAFE anymore? Is that
> another reason this group is closed?
>
> These seem like a lot of unscientific questions,
> but they contain emotional importance that would
> give a higher degree of understanding.
>
> Sincerely, Pat
>
>
>


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Ruth Paterson
04-13-2003, 12:40 PM
patrick@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=gt79X8ahZ0UGb9nsZkzSJWEI2eOW0vK4csLJR0 JXA3Y8fuc3s-_Vsvm1U4jPQ4py9NHBG8Pfp_YZLw)--- waterflame5 m> wrote:
But back to the Octahedron, the core of your article.
> Earlier this year, I spent some time looking at the
> Cabalistic "Tree of Life". Through meditation, I
found
> a 3 Dimensional Analog that consisted of two
Octahedrons
> that were fused on one face revealed the geometry
> of the Tree.

<patrick@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=gt79X8ahZ0UGb9nsZkzSJWEI2eOW0vK4csLJR0 JXA3Y8fuc3s-_Vsvm1U4jPQ4py9NHBG8Pfp_YZLw)--- waterflame5 m> wrote:
> Dear David,
> Thanks for your recent article,
> about the Matrix.
>
> "Yet, experience has shown us that very little
> mainstream attention
> is given to such advancements, as the questions that
> are raised bring
> in all the "Pandora's Box" elements of
> parapsychology and metaphysics"
>
> The timing of your article came not so long after
> the
> mention of the Auric Time Phi Spiral came into
> discussion.
> That is curious...is it related?
>
> Also, your mention of the MASONS sworn to secrecy
> and so
> forth gave the impression that there are things
> falling
> out of this "study" that violate principles of
> "SAFETY."
>
> Are you a MASON, or are there MASON representative
> in the
> group that can attest to these generalizations?
>
> But back to the Octahedron, the core of your
> article.
> Earlier this year, I spent some time looking at the
> Cabalistic "Tree of Life". Through meditation, I
> found
> a 3 Dimensional Analog that consisted of two
> Octahedrons
> that were fused on one face revealed the geometry
> of the Tree.
>
>
>
>
>
Hello Patrick;

could you send us a graphic on this revelation of the
3 Dimensional Analog that "revealed the geometry of
the Tree" - or at least a more detailed explanation?
Thanks, Ruth


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Ruth Paterson
04-13-2003, 12:55 PM
sorry all - i'm typing with 1 finger left hand (broken
right wrist) and something went wrong with my editing
of patrick's post so please don't hit me with wet
noodle! ignore last post and please use this one;
thanks, Ruth


But back to the Octahedron, the core of your
> > article.
> > Earlier this year, I spent some time looking at
> the
> > Cabalistic "Tree of Life". Through meditation, I
> > found
> > a 3 Dimensional Analog that consisted of two
> > Octahedrons
> > that were fused on one face revealed the geometry
> > of the Tree.
> >

Could you please give us a graphic or at least a more
detailed explanation of this "3 Dimensional Analog
that consisted of two Octahedrons that were fused on
one face" revealing the geometry of the Tree. THANKS,
PATRICK. Ruth
>


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waterflame5
04-14-2003, 12:05 PM
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=frX6SPbIOd40Wdm13FgPMUaAK3A04Uf6tT00CY VIGUx83piO7cC6UvzIHu6UMJoa9ck19RAo8I-8M4uO), Ruth Paterson <spiritform2001@y...>
wrote:

> Could you please give us a graphic or at least a more
> detailed explanation of this "3 Dimensional Analog
> that consisted of two Octahedrons that were fused on
> one face" revealing the geometry of the Tree. THANKS,
> PATRICK. Ruth
> >

I posted image files of this construction
using the MAGZ toy set on this site.
They were subsequently destroyed.
It is not so difficult to put 2 octahedrons
together, with an added tetrahedron and see
the Tree of Life.

Chris
04-16-2003, 06:02 AM
I would like to ask Pat if he could reconstruct that toy thingy as a graphic and
put it in the files section? Ruth and I would appreciate it. Chris

> Could you please give us a graphic or at least a more
> detailed explanation of this "3 Dimensional Analog
> that consisted of two Octahedrons that were fused on
> one face" revealing the geometry of the Tree. THANKS,
> PATRICK. Ruth
> >

I posted image files of this construction
using the MAGZ toy set on this site.
They were subsequently destroyed.
It is not so difficult to put 2 octahedrons
together, with an added tetrahedron and see
the Tree of Life. Pat




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Jeremy Weiland
04-16-2003, 09:06 AM
Pat, go to

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/asc2k/sfupld?path=/

and upload the file from there. We do not permit file
attachments due to the danger from virii.

And don't always assume that it's personal! :-)

Jeremy

> I posted image files of this construction
> using the MAGZ toy set on this site.
> They were subsequently destroyed.
> It is not so difficult to put 2 octahedrons
> together, with an added tetrahedron and see
> the Tree of Life. Pat

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waterflame5
04-16-2003, 12:29 PM
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=gVEl7XHBD2TFrTKFL6keY-y5gxU1Y4AuDzqdos8yKREwBmzDNGb8NOQnaTvGckp9R7duDU4H Pqg09xXK), Jeremy Weiland <greenlantern113@y...>
wrote:

> and upload the file from there. We do not permit file
> attachments due to the danger from virii.
>
> And don't always assume that it's personal! :-)
>
> Jeremy

Oh please, let me clarify.
I removed the images from
the file section because
they take a lot of space
and I didn't want to hog
all of that space, rather
cooperatively share that
space with less frivolous
information by other group
members. Since then the disk
they were on crashed.
I didn't mean to project any
"destroyer" image onto you,
Jeremy. Also, thank you for
your concientious job of
moderating our group. Pat

waterflame5
04-16-2003, 03:20 PM
> --- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=OPo1hC2l9DgLyfYRSwwTjSqeoiO_vOnPbeuwWv JU-ShH32k1W5pSt081qxKEac3ohknZLOpApUzjLIU), Jeremy Weiland <greenlantern113@y...>
> wrote:
>
> > And don't always assume that it's personal! :-)
> >
> > Jeremy
>
Hey Jeremy didn't you say everything was personal?
I created a photo album with the much smaller cropped
pictures that were saved somehow by somebody else,
called Magz Toy. Hey - there is a paradox, that this
is perfectly imperfect...true to the Tree. The camera
doesn't do it justice because the eyepoint/perspective/
horizon line isn't placed right...just a hint. Also
there is is a missing segment... Pat