Rod Johnson
03-23-2003, 11:46 PM
i hope that you don't mind my filling your inbox with things i want to
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let me know if you want me to stop!
fire at will in the name of peace!!
rod
a message forwarded by fred mayers
...and here's another explanation that should make it, as former
>president nixon was wont to say, "perfectly clear." peter freundlich
>on npr "all right, let me see if i understand the logic of this
>correctly. we are going to ignore the united nations in order to make
>clear to saddam hussein that the united nations cannot be ignored. we're
>going to wage war to preserve the un's ability to avert war. the paramount
>principle is that the un's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to
>subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gum, we will. peace is
>too important not to take up arms to defend. am i getting this right?
>"further, if the only way to bring democracy to iraq is to vitiate the
>democracy of the security council, then we are honor-bound to do that
>too, because democracy, as we define it, is too important to be stopped
>by a little thing like democracy as they define it. "also, in dealing
>with a man who brooks no dissension at home, we cannot afford dissension
>among ourselves. we must speak with one voice against saddam hussein's
>failure to allow opposing voices to be heard. we are sending our gathered
>might to the persian gulf to make the point that might does not make
>right, as saddam hussein seems to think it does. and we are twisting the
>arms of the opposition until it agrees to let us oust a regime that twists
>the arms of the opposition. we cannot leave in power a dictator who
>ignores his own people. and if our people, and people elsewhere in the
>world, fail to understand that, then we have no choice but to ignore them.
>"listen. don't misunderstand. i think it is a good thing that the members
>of the bush administration seem to have been reading lewis carroll. i only
>wish someone had pointed out that "alice in wonderland" and "through the
>looking glass" are meditations on paradox and puzzle and illogic and on
>the strangeness of things, not templates for foreign policy. it is amusing
>for the mad hatter to say something like, `we must make war on him because
>he is a threat to peace,' but not amusing for someone who actually
>commands an army to say that. "as a collector of laughable arguments, i'd
>be enjoying all this were it not for the fact that i know--we all
>know--that lives are going to be lost in what amounts to a freak, circular
>reasoning accident."
share -
let me know if you want me to stop!
fire at will in the name of peace!!
rod
a message forwarded by fred mayers
...and here's another explanation that should make it, as former
>president nixon was wont to say, "perfectly clear." peter freundlich
>on npr "all right, let me see if i understand the logic of this
>correctly. we are going to ignore the united nations in order to make
>clear to saddam hussein that the united nations cannot be ignored. we're
>going to wage war to preserve the un's ability to avert war. the paramount
>principle is that the un's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to
>subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gum, we will. peace is
>too important not to take up arms to defend. am i getting this right?
>"further, if the only way to bring democracy to iraq is to vitiate the
>democracy of the security council, then we are honor-bound to do that
>too, because democracy, as we define it, is too important to be stopped
>by a little thing like democracy as they define it. "also, in dealing
>with a man who brooks no dissension at home, we cannot afford dissension
>among ourselves. we must speak with one voice against saddam hussein's
>failure to allow opposing voices to be heard. we are sending our gathered
>might to the persian gulf to make the point that might does not make
>right, as saddam hussein seems to think it does. and we are twisting the
>arms of the opposition until it agrees to let us oust a regime that twists
>the arms of the opposition. we cannot leave in power a dictator who
>ignores his own people. and if our people, and people elsewhere in the
>world, fail to understand that, then we have no choice but to ignore them.
>"listen. don't misunderstand. i think it is a good thing that the members
>of the bush administration seem to have been reading lewis carroll. i only
>wish someone had pointed out that "alice in wonderland" and "through the
>looking glass" are meditations on paradox and puzzle and illogic and on
>the strangeness of things, not templates for foreign policy. it is amusing
>for the mad hatter to say something like, `we must make war on him because
>he is a threat to peace,' but not amusing for someone who actually
>commands an army to say that. "as a collector of laughable arguments, i'd
>be enjoying all this were it not for the fact that i know--we all
>know--that lives are going to be lost in what amounts to a freak, circular
>reasoning accident."