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Jeff Wellman

07-16-2001, 08:08 PM

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>hi everyone,
>
>i thought i would resurrect a few concepts that were talked about in the last few weeks. i finally got myself caught up with all the excellent posts, and thought that a book written by scott mandelker really had excellent material to add to the discussions of service to others, and what it means to be a true world server.<xml:namespace prefix="o" ns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"></xml:namespace><o:p></o:p>
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here are a few quotes from scott’s book, universal vision.
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“in the midst of the planetary birth, with labor pains, nausea and social cramping, there’s definitely a need for some kind of stability. many et channeled sources agree that intensified heart-center energy is now streaming into earth, and must be integrated into the changing grid of the planet itself. however, this process is hindered and distorted by the accumulated force from centuries of human disharmony, both individual and collective. the planet itself is weakened and requires a resonate core of awakened, love-infused beings to anchor the cosmic energies coming in. this radiant group, the true world servers, actually circulate, channel and harmonize the absorbtion of such light energies. it sounds esoteric, and it really is. <o:p></o:p>
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and so we arrive at the role of wanderers: to receive, amplify, and transmit the cosmic heart-energies of love to balance and assist world initiation. it doesn’t matter if such star people or star born teach, organize, go public, or even recognize their own et identity – because their very presence, to the extent they are living from the heart, offers a crystallized force that actively supports global transformation. of course, this is not to say that those who are not (or who think they are not) et souls, are themselves not helping earth. service to others is rendered by love, et or otherwise.” (universal vision, page 5-6)<o:p></o:p>
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i think this helps to describe an earlier discussion concerning the role of a serial killer. i feel that killing is not a form of love, and therefore it is not service to others, and in turn does not help absorb the light energies that support global transformation. so, with all the war and killing going on in this world, someone has to continue to keep love alive – no matter how terrible the situation gets. which is definitely one of the hardest lessons to learn, especially when it hits close to home.
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i think there were also a few questions about what is the meaning of service to others. should we consider it a form of thought or do we have to perform material deeds. scott has a very interesting view when asked, what is my purpose?<o:p></o:p>
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“what am i supposed to be doing?” i tell them i honestly don’t know if they’re supposed to be doing anything, and if they are still listening (since some people turn off at that point, disappointed i didn’t do a psychic reading), i then add that it is this kind of thinking that keeps them from finding their purpose! to settle the matter of purpose, which is essential to the life and well-being of wanderers (as well as anyone else who cares about personal growth), you must recall the awareness you had before you were born – which certainly can not be done by typical human reasoning! one needs to return to a more primordial consciousness, a state of mental quiet, purity, and simplicity. (universal vision, page 26)<o:p></o:p>
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“wanderers should not feel bad about being here. if evolution is your goal, you can relax in knowing you are definitely in the right place, even though your purpose may seem vague at times. if you already know your cosmic nature and the importance of service, appreciate both kindness and clarity and are truly sensitive to the needs of others in daily life, then everything is right on track just as planned. in fact, excessive worry and self-doubt will throw you off balance and impair the fullness of your offering, since they impair the wholeness of self-appreciation. self appreciation, a quality associated with the sixth chakra, the “third eye” that is a gateway to higher self, is essential to link us up to cosmic power. just realize that what is offered in service is simply just you, wanderer or not, which is why the very personal work of balancing mind/body/spirit and opening to total self-acceptance is so central to the path of service.” (universal vision, page 30)<o:p></o:p>
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i really like those last sentences using the terms, self-appreciation and self-acceptance. sometimes i think we get a little scared of the word self (as in service to self), and forget how important it is to incorporate our own self, with service to others. <o:p></o:p>
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so, if you liked what scott had to say, i highly recommend reading his book, “universal vision – soul evolution and the cosmic plan”. i think you will definitely see why david has teamed up with scott mandelker for their seminar tour.<o:p></o:p>
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sincerely,<o:p></o:p>
>jeff

Aaron Elder

07-16-2001, 08:52 PM

jeff stop spamming me please.
aaron

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subject: [asc2k] service to others - additional info
date: mon, 16 jul 2001 22:08:26 -0500

hi everyone,

i thought i would resurrect a few concepts that were talked about in the
last few weeks. i finally got myself caught up with all the excellent
posts, and thought that a book written by scott mandelker really had
excellent material to add to the discussions of service to others, and what
it means to be a true world server.

here are a few quotes from scott's book, universal vision.

"in the midst of the planetary birth, with labor pains, nausea and social
cramping, there's definitely a need for some kind of stability. many et
channeled sources agree that intensified heart-center energy is now
streaming into earth, and must be integrated into the changing grid of the
planet itself. however, this process is hindered and distorted by the
accumulated force from centuries of human disharmony, both individual and
collective. the planet itself is weakened and requires a resonate core of
awakened, love-infused beings to anchor the cosmic energies coming in. this
radiant group, the true world servers, actually circulate, channel and
harmonize the absorbtion of such light energies. it sounds esoteric, and it
really is.

and so we arrive at the role of wanderers: to receive, amplify, and transmit
the cosmic heart-energies of love to balance and assist world initiation.
it doesn't matter if such star people or star born teach, organize, go
public, or even recognize their own et identity - because their very
presence, to the extent they are living from the heart, offers a
crystallized force that actively supports global transformation. of course,
this is not to say that those who are not (or who think they are not) et
souls, are themselves not helping earth. service to others is rendered by
love, et or otherwise." (universal vision, page 5-6)

i think this helps to describe an earlier discussion concerning the role of
a serial killer. i feel that killing is not a form of love, and therefore
it is not service to others, and in turn does not help absorb the light
energies that support global transformation. so, with all the war and
killing going on in this world, someone has to continue to keep love alive -
no matter how terrible the situation gets. which is definitely one of the
hardest lessons to learn, especially when it hits close to home.

i think there were also a few questions about what is the meaning of service
to others. should we consider it a form of thought or do we have to perform
material deeds. scott has a very interesting view when asked, what is my
purpose?

"what am i supposed to be doing?" i tell them i honestly don't know if
they're supposed to be doing anything, and if they are still listening
(since some people turn off at that point, disappointed i didn't do a
psychic reading), i then add that it is this kind of thinking that keeps
them from finding their purpose! to settle the matter of purpose, which is
essential to the life and well-being of wanderers (as well as anyone else
who cares about personal growth), you must recall the awareness you had
before you were born - which certainly can not be done by typical human
reasoning! one needs to return to a more primordial consciousness, a state
of mental quiet, purity, and simplicity. (universal vision, page 26)

"wanderers should not feel bad about being here. if evolution is your goal,
you can relax in knowing you are definitely in the right place, even though
your purpose may seem vague at times. if you already know your cosmic
nature and the importance of service, appreciate both kindness and clarity
and are truly sensitive to the needs of others in daily life, then
everything is right on track just as planned. in fact, excessive worry and
self-doubt will throw you off balance and impair the fullness of your
offering, since they impair the wholeness of self-appreciation. self
appreciation, a quality associated with the sixth chakra, the "third eye"
that is a gateway to higher self, is essential to link us up to cosmic
power. just realize that what is offered in service is simply just you,
wanderer or not, which is why the very personal work of balancing
mind/body/spirit and opening to total self-acceptance is so central to the
path of service." (universal vision, page 30)

i really like those last sentences using the terms, self-appreciation and
self-acceptance. sometimes i think we get a little scared of the word self
(as in service to self), and forget how important it is to incorporate our
own self, with service to others.

so, if you liked what scott had to say, i highly recommend reading his book,
"universal vision - soul evolution and the cosmic plan". i think you will
definitely see why david has teamed up with scott mandelker for their
seminar tour.

sincerely,

jeff

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David Wilcock

07-17-2001, 10:01 AM

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><tt>jeff stop spamming me please.
aaron

be nice, man... i'd hardly call a discussion of mycolleague's work a "spam," unless of course you are talking about a private issue, in which case you should communicate privately.i'll admit that i hadn't read most of scott's latest book until after i picked it up from him at our most recent seminar. i do consider it to be quite well done and appreciate jeff taking the time to clarify some issues that we have discused in this group using scott's quotes for context. i would eventually like to do a book like that on my own with a similar type of format.</tt>
><tt></tt>
><tt>peace be with you -</tt>
><tt></tt>
><tt>- david</tt>

jswell66@...

07-17-2001, 11:00 AM

thanks for the reply david. i am also a bit confused, i have never
spoken with aaron in private. aaron, i sincerely do not know why you
considered my post spam material. i only wanted to share concepts
from an excellent book.
jeff

--- in asc2k@y..., "david wilcock" <djw333@e...> wrote:
> jeff stop spamming me please.
> aaron
>
> be nice, man... i'd hardly call a discussion of my colleague's work
a "spam," unless of course you are talking about a private issue, in
which case you should communicate privately. i'll admit that i hadn't
read most of scott's latest book until after i picked it up from him
at our most recent seminar. i do consider it to be quite well done
and appreciate jeff taking the time to clarify some issues that we
have discused in this group using scott's quotes for context. i would
eventually like to do a book like that on my own with a similar type
of format.
>
> peace be with you -
>
> - david

Rosi

07-17-2001, 11:26 AM

thank you for reminding me, jeff, of one of the concepts of service
to others! i forget sometimes, that it is necessary to truly love
one's self before you can truly send love out to another. it's not
necessarily self-serving as it is, self-preservation. it's like that
equilibrium i mentioned some time back...to send love and light out
to others, you send love into your own heart and love yourself for
who you truly are. we are all one! once this realization is made,
by loving ourselves we are loving the one, and better able to serve
the one. by serving others and sending love and light out to others,
that also mirrors back upon our selves. thus, reinforcing the
equilibrium. does this make any sense!?! it does within my heart,
but i'm not sure i've communicated it well.

love and light
rosi

Aaron Elder

07-17-2001, 03:11 PM

i just meant that i didn't need the same email 7 times. maybe i'm the only
one that recieved it 7 times.
aaron

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to: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=dkb4dsihb-kzsoqqrlzb6zjnapmrywhd5ilf57nqgspinds5prpp7aqvrwh8 9sxlkcvvrmhbkyiq7xy4_6m)>
subject: re: [asc2k] service to others - additional info
date: tue, 17 jul 2001 13:01:41 -0400

jeff stop spamming me please.
aaron

be nice, man... i'd hardly call a discussion of my colleague's work a
"spam," unless of course you are talking about a private issue, in which
case you should communicate privately. i'll admit that i hadn't read most of
scott's latest book until after i picked it up from him at our most recent
seminar. i do consider it to be quite well done and appreciate jeff taking
the time to clarify some issues that we have discused in this group using
scott's quotes for context. i would eventually like to do a book like that
on my own with a similar type of format.

peace be with you -

- david

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Aaron Elder

07-17-2001, 04:45 PM

ok so now i was curious and went and looked at the asc2k group page and jeff
only sent the message once, i guess hotmail got stuck in a loop and sent it
to me 7 times. so i feel dumb now. :) sorry jeff. i am crawling back under
my rock now. :)
aaron

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subject: re: [asc2k] service to others - additional info
date: tue, 17 jul 2001 22:11:29 -0000

i just meant that i didn't need the same email 7 times. maybe i'm the only
one that recieved it 7 times.
aaron

----original message follows----
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to: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=p2o1zqdlhkk395oj5begvbdq57zek2ckocrvs-_swukhm0pw6eh_iux8vpueroe-nnvohunu3gufi-wmivd0pg)>
subject: re: [asc2k] service to others - additional info
date: tue, 17 jul 2001 13:01:41 -0400

jeff stop spamming me please.
aaron

be nice, man... i'd hardly call a discussion of my colleague's work a
"spam," unless of course you are talking about a private issue, in which
case you should communicate privately. i'll admit that i hadn't read most of
scott's latest book until after i picked it up from him at our most recent
seminar. i do consider it to be quite well done and appreciate jeff taking
the time to clarify some issues that we have discused in this group using
scott's quotes for context. i would eventually like to do a book like that
on my own with a similar type of format.

peace be with you -

- david

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Jeff Wellman

07-17-2001, 06:50 PM

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>rosi,
>
>sounds like great communication to me!
>
>lol, jeff
>p.s - its to bad we didn't meet each other at david's chicago seminar, oh well.
>
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>
<tt>thank you for reminding me, jeff, of one of the concepts of service
to others! i forget sometimes, that it is necessary to truly love
one's self before you can truly send love out to another. it's not
necessarily self-serving as it is, self-preservation. it's like that
equilibrium i mentioned some time back...to send love and light out
to others, you send love into your own heart and love yourself for
who you truly are. we are all one! once this realization is made,
by loving ourselves we are loving the one, and better able to serve
the one. by serving others and sending love and light out to others,
that also mirrors back upon our selves. thus, reinforcing the
equilibrium. does this make any sense!?! it does within my heart,
but i'm not sure i've communicated it well.

love and light
rosi

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Jeff Wellman

07-17-2001, 06:56 PM

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>aaron,
>
>thanks for your reply - you had me worried this afternoon.
>now get out from under that rock, it can't be very comfortable down there.
>
>later, 
>jeff
>
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style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: aaron elder (karnisov@hotmail.com)
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style="font: 10pt arial">sent: tuesday, july 17, 2001 6:45 pm
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: re: [asc2k] service to others - additional info
>
<tt>ok so now i was curious and went and looked at the asc2k group page and jeff
only sent the message once, i guess hotmail got stuck in a loop and sent it
to me 7 times. so i feel dumb now. :) sorry jeff. i am crawling back under
my rock now. :)
aaron

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reply-to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
subject: re: [asc2k] service to others - additional info
date: tue, 17 jul 2001 22:11:29 -0000

i just meant that i didn't need the same email 7 times. maybe i'm the only
one that recieved it 7 times.
aaron

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from: "david wilcock" <djw333@exis.net>
reply-to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
to: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com>
subject: re: [asc2k] service to others - additional info
date: tue, 17 jul 2001 13:01:41 -0400

jeff stop spamming me please.
aaron

be nice, man... i'd hardly call a discussion of my colleague's work a
"spam," unless of course you are talking about a private issue, in which
case you should communicate privately. i'll admit that i hadn't read most of
scott's latest book until after i picked it up from him at our most recent
seminar. i do consider it to be quite well done and appreciate jeff taking
the time to clarify some issues that we have discused in this group using
scott's quotes for context. i would eventually like to do a book like that
on my own with a similar type of format.

peace be with you -

- david

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Lynn Ferguson

07-18-2001, 09:19 AM

i think you stated it beautifully rosi. when we emanate that remarkable
joy that love embellishes within us, it uplifts and is felt by everyone
around us - what a contribution of service to all life that can be!
especially after being bombarded by disheartening news media accounts
of human trajedy daily and all the government statistics of human suffering,
prejudice, greed, exploits of every type and timbre.

i know i feel there is also another benefit that comes from being in
the presence of people who loves themselves and their lives. the 'resonance'
factor really encourages others in our circles to hold our energy in
a higher expression, uplifting and reflecting that love and joy even
further than in only one individual. it has a ripple effect that keeps
on going, and with the continuation of love being perpetuated, there's
less room for any other emotion to fill that spacetime.

that concept of 'resonance' has been discussed by several brilliant people.
the 100th monkey concept embraces it. the 'morphogenic field' idea.
the harmonics of 'bio-energetic medicine' shows that it has a definitive
healing and balancing effect on organs and systems in the physical body.
the concept behind sacred places which hold the energy of the spiritual
beings or events that have occurred on that land. in quantum physics,
some experiments show that the light behaves as expected, and that extrapolation
can be taken to mean that if we feel love and others around us feel love,
then the light is changed in our fields, touching the earth, the buildings,
the other physical objects around us. that is how psychics 'read' objects
and know the thoughts associated with the person who owned an object.
the frequency information is contained in that object, the light composing
it maintains that information indefinitely, unless changed by use or
intent. that is how the akashic records are 'read' - the information
is in universal mind, the mind of god, and can be accessed by those who
know how to move into that state of consciousness.

all that to say, is that love of self begets good works and really makes
an impact in subtle, yet meaningful ways. animals respond to this love,
plants respond to it. we are one!

--
lynn ferguson
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Rob Large

07-18-2001, 03:09 PM

i got it 7 times as well..duncan

>from: "aaron elder" <karnisov@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=c4nxhibrvhb7j-ng1hlcsvwzdsaxwndvprzdr4sw7lseofeaigxwulstgfy_7l2t rs0avhha_ww2uq)>
>reply-to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=eexownn9uqsf0dqkrih-olc1s0hglb0phhz9oej0ww6aeefziohthjcbg-s5xmgikxtkxes1of8zbdzn)
>to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=eexownn9uqsf0dqkrih-olc1s0hglb0phhz9oej0ww6aeefziohthjcbg-s5xmgikxtkxes1of8zbdzn)
>subject: re: [asc2k] service to others - additional info
>date: tue, 17 jul 2001 23:45:25 -0000
>
>ok so now i was curious and went and looked at the asc2k group page and
>jeff
>only sent the message once, i guess hotmail got stuck in a loop and sent it
>to me 7 times. so i feel dumb now. :) sorry jeff. i am crawling back under
>my rock now. :)
>aaron
>
>
>----original message follows----
>from: "aaron elder" <karnisov@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=c4nxhibrvhb7j-ng1hlcsvwzdsaxwndvprzdr4sw7lseofeaigxwulstgfy_7l2t rs0avhha_ww2uq)>
>reply-to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=eexownn9uqsf0dqkrih-olc1s0hglb0phhz9oej0ww6aeefziohthjcbg-s5xmgikxtkxes1of8zbdzn)
>to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=eexownn9uqsf0dqkrih-olc1s0hglb0phhz9oej0ww6aeefziohthjcbg-s5xmgikxtkxes1of8zbdzn)
>subject: re: [asc2k] service to others - additional info
>date: tue, 17 jul 2001 22:11:29 -0000
>
>i just meant that i didn't need the same email 7 times. maybe i'm the only
>one that recieved it 7 times.
>aaron
>
>
>----original message follows----
>from: "david wilcock" <djw333@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=htvfbl1qozhktnbxhpawxgrszi96krib7ljnum-lnaijxkyoe8jf2jlj1-onnu-owpnqnk8)>
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>subject: re: [asc2k] service to others - additional info
>date: tue, 17 jul 2001 13:01:41 -0400
>
>jeff stop spamming me please.
>aaron
>
>be nice, man... i'd hardly call a discussion of my colleague's work a
>"spam," unless of course you are talking about a private issue, in which
>case you should communicate privately. i'll admit that i hadn't read most
>of
>scott's latest book until after i picked it up from him at our most recent
>seminar. i do consider it to be quite well done and appreciate jeff taking
>the time to clarify some issues that we have discused in this group using
>scott's quotes for context. i would eventually like to do a book like that
>on my own with a similar type of format.
>
>peace be with you -
>
>- david
>
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