Mechanics of Transformation

[Tarzan]

Mawk wrote:
OK that's enough for today but I hope Jeremy that
provides some more food for thought:-)
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Jeremy, Mawk, et. al.,

Jeremy--that was an excellent post on your thoughts of the
mechanics of transformation; Mawk--that was also an
excellent commentary and your last line finally prompted me
to go ahead and share some thoughts on food regarding food
for your thoughts. ;-)

My approach in the mechanics of transformation is to
center one's transformation on the physical through the
transformational power of medicinal food--raw foods. I have
long felt that, if one were to truly, deeply transform, one
would best achieve that by starting at square one: one's
diet. If one tries to transform oneself by *trying* to
focus on transformation by using changes in
perception/focus/awareness without first starting with the
simplest, most-effective way of moving decisively towards
transformation though changes in one's diet, then one has a
hell of a harder time being able to keep the calm, steady
focus that is needed for major paradigm shift in one's
perceptual transformation. It's like trying to get a drunk
to meditate on higher thoughts when all he can do is think
of higher spirits to drink; or trying to get someone with an
over-eating disorder to gain spritual awareness through
fasting--things like that.

The examples are extremes, but they illustrate my central
point: start with one's body and one's diet as a
foundational step towards true, deep transformation.

I am a good example/case of ongoing transformation that
demonstrates the efficiacy of diet/body-based, square-one
steps towards one's transformation. For far too many years,
I was a pizza/ice-cream/soda/burger/chip-eating caterpillar
who over time lost my once-wonderful atheletic body and
became not only obese, but more depressed than ever to the
point of fantasizing suicide daily, on top of all the class
negative thoughts in response to any neutral event. Before
I could run and play with ok ease; later I could not even
walk one mile without breathing too hard.

Before I would automatically think the negative or the
worse-case senario in response to any situation, like the
phone call example that Mawk alluded to. My whole life was
a long series of far too many negative events which
eventually wore down my spirit to near a breaking point. I
knew that I had to do something to change this and I felt
all along that this something had to start with the
simplest, most basic means of starting out on one's path of
transformation: food.

We are, afterall, physical beings, so to overlook food as
medicine is to miss out on the most efficiacious means of
making decisive steps towards one's own process of
transformation. With the right healing foods--all raw--one
can then help one's own body delete the dead
energy/cells/DNA that are poisoning/distorting one's body,
mind and spirit to the point which
mental/emotional/spiritual functions would become scattered
and ineffective. I've always believed in Hippocrates'
timeless truth: "Let thy food by thy medicine; let thy
medicine be thy food". That dude was spot-on, man.

So at the start of last year (actually the day after
Christmas of '01) I set out to start my healing on the
square one of changing my diet to total raw foods radically
in cold-turkey style. Over the course of last year, I spent
75% of my time on my raw food diet and 25% of my time
falling off my track by reverting to my old ways of stuffing
myself--thereby avoiding the inevitable mental/emotional
transformations--with junk cooked foods with awful
results/experiences. Despite falling off my raw food wagon
several times last year, my body healed with amazing speed.
I felt that I was undergoing deep cellular healing, so I ate
a LOT of great raw foods, slept a LOT and worked just enough
to keep a roof over my head and to keep the raw foods coming
into my body. I didn't push it. I just ate, slept and read
a lot, trusting that my Body Intelligence knew what to
do--all I had to do was to put the right foods in the right
amounts in my mouth, that's all. I, the ego, had the easy
part.

Now I feel that most of my inner organs are in great
working order. My mental state of mind, for the first time
in my whole life, is calm, yet energized; my emotional
state is similar. I don't think negative thoughts as a
default anymore; I have zero thoughts of suicide; I don't
sleep during the day anymore; I am able to calmly act/plan
my days one day at a time amidst rather chaotic change (like
I right now have to move from my place with less than 48
hours left with no place yet to go) without going off on
anger tantrums with things flying everywhere. I used to
blow up every day; now a discharge is very rare and only
happens because I am naturally wired as a high-intensity
warrrior-like being. Now such discharges don't drain me and
I don't dwell on it; before I changed, my blow-ups drained
me of my vital energy for one or more days--with blowups
happening nearly everyday. Sheesh. Rough. I could
literally feel my energy drain way moment-to-moment after my
blow-ups.

Now that my inner organs are in excellent shape doing the
work that they were designed to do, I now have the energy to
spare to not only continue the vital three-step
breakdown/remove/rebuild process of physical transformation,
but also to do my intense physical forestry work by working
full 8-hour days (something that I had not been able to do
for several years), plus go running/walking 4-5 miles, then
going out to dance, then enjoying sensual play (with
integrity and respect for boundaries) with my Janes in hot
tubs--and wake up the next morning after 6 hours of sleep
feeling great and none the worse for the wear. No soreness
at all--to my total amazement. I'm like a 24-year-old while
being close to 44 yrs of chronological age with the added
wealth of some tempered, humbling wisdom learned over the
last few years of my life.

Now I am finally starting to live like I've always felt
that I could live. I am starting to breathe in and out
peace as much as I can. My breathing is deep, cool and
refreshing and mornings bring joy to me when I wake up and
see everything wrapped up with sleepy golden light sparkling
off the dewfall. Now I feel like that I can finally start
on my path of mental/emotional transformations upon the
foundation of a calm, healthy body/mind that is able to
focus on specific tasks of mental/emotional processes of
personal transformation.

I already feel deeply happy, very calm--yet am very much
energized to engage with my daily life. My friends whom
have known me over the years watching me do my yo-yo's now
are amazed with the steady "shine" that I now have. They
seem to be inspired by my transformation and by my energy
field, which has been reported to be large and luminous. I
know that it's not really "me" that is shining, it's the
natural, joyful Energy of the Universe that is simply
flowing through me. All I had to do was to stick with
living foods to make it happen and my Body Intelligence
software did the rest, for which I am so deeply grateful.
I've already inspired a full dozen people to try the raw
foods with which I'm having so much success.

Now people are naturally drawn to me; strangers usually
guess my age as being a healthy 31 to 35yrs and they are now
shocked to hear of my true chronological age. I wish to
emphasize that it is not "me" that is shining--it's the
natural Energy of life that is finally flowing through my
energy field and it seems that people are naturally drawn to
that because they themselves desire to experience such
energy fields. The crow's feet around my eyes are now
nearly invisible and that's without putting on any external
help for my skin--it changed from within.

Because we are physical beings as foundations for our
mental/emotional/spriitual processes in 3-D, I think that
the most efficiacious transformations can be created by
starting with square one: food. Being vibrantly alive
requires a synergy of energy that allows your own natural
genius to flow forth with which you can give to the world
effortlessly. If you find that your gifts to the world
flows with effortless, sychronous ease, that is the
Universe's way of showing that you are on the right path.

Shining,

~Seth


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[Jeremy Weiland]

Hi all,

Lately I've been thinking a lot about personal
transformation, changing your life, that kind of
thing. We all have things about ourselves that we
don't like, bad habits and such, and at least in my
experience they constitute a sort of "inertia" -
resistance to change, being set in your ways, etc.

I'm wondering where self-acceptance and discipline
intersect. How do you reconcile your desire to change
yourself and break old patterns, and yet continue to
identify with those distortions and accept them?

This is one of those questions where I would normally
come in with some full-of-myself, Law of One based
analytical monologue :-) but what's stumping me is not
neccessarily the theoretical nature but the real world
application. Do you identify with the mistakes and
distortions and attempt to accept them, or do you
strive to turn your life around, rejecting the old
patterns?

My guess? It's got to be some combination... you
can't completely disown those distorted experiences,
but at some point they have to cease to control you.
I guess it's the classic dichotomy of positive/sto and
negative/sts, played out on the personal stage. :-)

I've been thinking that there are two fundamental
principles in life: IDENTITY (which can be thought of
as the non-linear, potential, unmanifest, infinite,
"being") and WILL (which can be thought of as linear,
kinetic, manifest, finite, "doing"). Transformation
occurs when one is able to redefine the self (as a
result of catalyst), and discover some broader context
or definition for the identity. This acceptance of a
more unified and all-encompasing truth and
self-concept then allows that truth to be actualized
and manifest in a more consistent manner. This new
attempt at manifesting truth allows one to then
further refine the identity. I just wonder if this is
a process I can consciously direct.

I drew a little diagram of my thoughts on it, where
IDENTITY points to WILL, with the comments: "informs
the actions and manifests infinite truth in a finite
form." WILL points to IDENTITY and that is labelled:
"provides catalyst for further expansion of identity".
I'd be interested in y'all's thoughts on this.

One thing I would like to recommend: in my exploration
of transfomation, I've found Jeff Wellman's "Jewells
from Within" site especially helpful
(http://jewellsfromwithin.home.att.net). I know that
talking about outside chanelling is usually looked
down upon, but considering this fellow was tutored by
David and channels in the same vein, I don't think
it's too off-topic. One thing I like about his
channeling is that the material really focuses on the
personal journey, with broadcer events and
developments in that context. The latest reading I
found very helpful, especially this quote:

"Supreme power in the individual comes at that moment
when one realizes the nothingness of third dimensional
life, the nothingness of materialism, and the
nothingness of true individualism; the longing for
deeper meaning becomes the way of life, the key that
can unlock the door to happiness and perpetual motion
and freedom from within, and guidance from your
eternal soul."

You can find this reading at
http://jewellsfromwithin.home.att.net/2003-02-16.htm

Love and light,

Jeremy

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--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=dDx1QDBfTX-zIb2oxA4ZjBKRJeiQqXcmECfZhLvJTe-bFe1TgPejClVEbxwl1-NQuneXVyyJRnFZ8RtNnQ), Jeremy Weiland <greenlantern113@y...>
wrote:
> >
> "Supreme power in the individual comes at that moment
> when one realizes the nothingness of third dimensional
> life, the nothingness of materialism, and the
> nothingness of true individualism; the longing for
> deeper meaning becomes the way of life, the key that
> can unlock the door to happiness and perpetual motion
> and freedom from within, and guidance from your
> eternal soul."
>> Love and light,
>
> Jeremy
>
>
Nice post, J.
At the risk of showing my ignorance, would you kindly define "power"?

[Jeremy Weiland]

> Nice post, J.

Thank you!

> At the risk of showing my ignorance, would you
> kindly define "power"?

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=power

Try to remember that the quote you referenced was not
mine. However, I think the point was that the
genuinely empowered individual is in touch with the
self, the true identity, and can operate and define
one's interests outside the 3D paradigm of materialism
and limitation. But that's just my humble opinion.

Love and light,

Jeremy

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[Mawk]

Hi Jeremy,

You have touched on a very important area and one that has had my attention
for sometime now. Rather than go through a line by line critique of your
post I am going to provide my slant from another perspective based on
psychological research and my own experience on break a major habit.

In clinical psychology depression and anxiety disorders are classic areas
that provide the distortions you suggest. The essence of these disorders
seem to stem from negative thought processes. Aaron Beck came up with a
treatment called cognitive behavioural therapy. The basis of this treatment
was to identify the negative thought processes with the patient and then to
break the scheme of thought patterns they evoked. These processes could
involve a sequence of events such as you ring a friend, they don't answer
the phone, you believe they are avoiding you, you then thing all people are
avoiding you, you question your worth as a human-being, you then wonder
whether it is worth living etc. As you can see when you stand back from the
situation there are lots of false premises but with charged emotion this
clouds the obvious. With anxiety disorders this often activates the
anatomical nervous system so that breathing becomes shallow, heart
palpitations occur, sweating etc.

What is really interesting about this phenomena is that a trigger can create
a thought process that then activates a very complex behavioural process.
This can be wired into your neural pathways to become almost automatic in
nature. A classic example for me was smoking. Often you had the cigarette
lit and in your mouth before you had realised you had thought of having one.
In my case I smoked about a packet a day for 24 years. To give up, which I
did over a year ago now, I looked at my smoking pattern for about 3 months
prior to giving up. Times like when I had a coffee, drank alcohol or when I
got in the car, seemed to trigger the complimentary behavior of lighting a
cigarette. The next step for me was identify why I really disliked the
behaviour. The cost, the impact on my health, where the money was going etc.
Once these issues were firmly planted in my mind I then decided to give up
fully aware of the why and more importantly the triggers that would activate
the behaviour. I have only tried giving up smoking this one time and so far
it has been a success. To give you an idea of how ingrained this behaviour
was I still wake up from a dream every couple of months certain I have had a
cig and am absolutely furious with myself before I realise that it was my
unconscious mind teasing me:-)

Beck's cognitive therapy has been one of the most effective remedies for
these disorders in the long run. Drugs so far such as SSRI's are only more
effective in the short run. For those that don't recover from therapy it
seems from recent research that they believe they have no self determination
(the issue of free will comes to mind here).

Meditation I believe also had a major impact in my ability to change my
behaviour patterns. My hypothesis is that meditation somehow changes the
neural pathways so that you become more self empowered to identify and
implement changes that are required for the self. In my case it was during
meditation that I realised I was not getting the air quality I required for
the areas I wanted to access.

OK that's enough for today but I hope Jeremy that provides some more food
for thought:-)

Cheers,

Mawk

[Lori Buendorf]

Hi Mawk and Jeremy,
I usually only read the posts here..... but wanted to add my two cents on
this particular topic (I'm a body/mind/energy/massage healing facilitator
(and a secretary))..... I agree with your post entirely and want to add a
summation I've also made with regards to the body/mind network..... In
psychology.. and interpersonal communication-type studies.... it seemed
to me that there was a common vein of "learning to not let things get to
you".... or "removing the triggers".... So, it floored me that when also
studying trigger point release (in massage-work)... it also stated plainly
that "healthy tissue HAS NO Trigger points" (ie a trigger point is a spot
that hurts from pain radiated from another spot (in which when you work
that spot, it gets a systemic release).... (so whether it's
body or mind.... to remove triggers and be peaceful??)

Anyhow, what do you think?

(Cool group.... I'm being exposed to SO much information.... Thanks all!)
Lori



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Hi Jeremy,

You have touched on a very important area and one that has had my attention
for sometime now. Rather than go through a line by line critique of your
post I am going to provide my slant from another perspective based on
psychological research and my own experience on break a major habit.

In clinical psychology depression and anxiety disorders are classic areas
that provide the distortions you suggest. The essence of these disorders
seem to stem from negative thought processes. Aaron Beck came up with a
treatment called cognitive behavioural therapy. The basis of this treatment
was to identify the negative thought processes with the patient and then to
break the scheme of thought patterns they evoked. These processes could
involve a sequence of events such as you ring a friend, they don't answer
the phone, you believe they are avoiding you, you then thing all people are
avoiding you, you question your worth as a human-being, you then wonder
whether it is worth living etc. As you can see when you stand back from the
situation there are lots of false premises but with charged emotion this
clouds the obvious. With anxiety disorders this often activates the
anatomical nervous system so that breathing becomes shallow, heart
palpitations occur, sweating etc.

What is really interesting about this phenomena is that a trigger can
create
a thought process that then activates a very complex behavioural process.
This can be wired into your neural pathways to become almost automatic in
nature. A classic example for me was smoking. Often you had the cigarette
lit and in your mouth before you had realised you had thought of having
one.
In my case I smoked about a packet a day for 24 years. To give up, which I
did over a year ago now, I looked at my smoking pattern for about 3 months
prior to giving up. Times like when I had a coffee, drank alcohol or when I
got in the car, seemed to trigger the complimentary behavior of lighting a
cigarette. The next step for me was identify why I really disliked the
behaviour. The cost, the impact on my health, where the money was going
etc.
Once these issues were firmly planted in my mind I then decided to give up
fully aware of the why and more importantly the triggers that would
activate
the behaviour. I have only tried giving up smoking this one time and so far
it has been a success. To give you an idea of how ingrained this behaviour
was I still wake up from a dream every couple of months certain I have had
a
cig and am absolutely furious with myself before I realise that it was my
unconscious mind teasing me:-)

Beck's cognitive therapy has been one of the most effective remedies for
these disorders in the long run. Drugs so far such as SSRI's are only more
effective in the short run. For those that don't recover from therapy it
seems from recent research that they believe they have no self
determination
(the issue of free will comes to mind here).

Meditation I believe also had a major impact in my ability to change my
behaviour patterns. My hypothesis is that meditation somehow changes the
neural pathways so that you become more self empowered to identify and
implement changes that are required for the self. In my case it was during
meditation that I realised I was not getting the air quality I required for
the areas I wanted to access.

OK that's enough for today but I hope Jeremy that provides some more food
for thought:-)

Cheers,

Mawk



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[Chris Hamilton]

> I'm wondering where self-acceptance and discipline
> intersect. How do you reconcile your desire to change
> yourself and break old patterns, and yet continue to
> identify with those distortions and accept them?
My guess? It's got to be some combination... you
> can't completely disown those distorted experiences,
> but at some point they have to cease to control you.
> I guess it's the classic dichotomy of positive/sto and
> negative/sts, played out on the personal stage. :-)

I sat and read and re-read this :) Maybe there is a happy medium here. Just
as in the astrological chart we have various polarities of personal
performance that need balancing. I believe the answer lies in the distilling
of the polarities, such that an individual transforms that
positive/negative distortion into a balanced (ie neutral = balanced)
individual energy. Ok, this is definately very difficult to accomplish, and
I believe the Buddhist and Hindu religions spend much time on this personal
thing. I am not an expert, tho. But, essentially, we are not disowning a
personal experience, only distilling it and integrating it into our psyche
and then balancing it, creating a nice compromise. And to do this, we need
the WILL (what moves you:)to initiate as catalyst. Many times the Will
overreacts and the polarities are skewed-creating polarity extremes that
aren't so great, like lust, greed, possessiveness, etc. Does that make
sense? Chris

[Paul Kandrah]

> > I'm wondering where self-acceptance and discipline
> > intersect.

Everythings is exact.

The point of emphasizing self-acceptance is that non-self-acceptance
is so damaging. Without self-acceptance, "fixing things" becomes
just another manifestation of the negative in things.

At the same time, it is possible to accept where and what you are
with gratitude, and yet want to change.

Self-acceptance comes with wide realizations. It would simplistic
to suggest that these realizations would not summon some desire for
movement, once we see the terrain (inner and outer). Otherwise we
would be static creatures... and we are not.

Strong willpower is a tool. When you come into some light you might
realize that you are finished experiencing certain fixations.
Strong willpower can affect a smooth transition to something new.
Without this strength a person may not be able to summon the energy
required to transform. Then they will be stuck. It is here that
entropy finds its purpose.

Everything is exact. When you are finished living one set of
circumstances, opportunities will arise to move onto the next.
However many do not have the strength, willpower or energy built up
to do so in the now. Since they cannot renew their own energetic
manifestations, entropy will do it for them. It is the law of the
cycle that everything must keep moving. Everything does.

To burst out of the old cosmic cycles and expand into new and larger
ones, perhaps through an increase in density, we have to work here
and now with our invigorated consciousness. Essentially we have to
use our will. Its intent comes not from fixing - or looking behind -
but from reaching out... expanding. The soul resonating through
everything that moves in time.

To move on, that which does not... must move aside.

Just some thoughts.

Paul

[Jeremy Weiland]

Hey, Chris!

> But, essentially, we are not disowning a personal
> experience, only distilling it and integrating it
> into our psyche and then balancing it, creating a
> nice compromise.

Right, yes, this sounds like exactly what I would have
answered had somebody else posed the questions I
did. :-)

But here's the catch, and I've struggled with this for
a long time: what does all that *mean*? I mean, I
know what it means, but I don't. And what's
frustrating is, for me, I'm pretty sure that in order
for me to have a meaningful transformation, it has to
be founded in *clarity*. For me (I speak for no other
here) so much of habit and compulsive behavior and
self-destructive thinking is based in self-delusion,
resulting from an unwillingness to look at the self
honestly, and just continue doing things without
thinking about them. There's judgement involved, lack
of acceptance, and to go on living we just tend to
block out what we can't accept, and let distortions
lie unexamined and ossifying. And a lot of the lack
of progress in this regard comes from one purposely
ignoring parts of the self - i.e. a lack of *will*.

What occurred to me is that you cannot have a
legitimate force of will without some sort of concept
about who you are, what the self is. What you are
determines what your interests are, and consequently
what you want. When you desire something, only then
can you manifest it. For me, so much of the lack of
self-acceptance comes from a desire to be something
other than what I am, what I *know* that I am.
Because there is conflict in how I define myself, I
don't really know what I want, so how can I expect to
accomplish anything?

So what you're talking about - distilling the
experience, especially that of misidentification with
more distorted portions of self - is golden. I want
to do this, but... let me see if I can explain it. I
want to do it in a way where I am accepting that
self-identity that is destructive *without* continuing
to identify with it. There seems to be a rejection in
there. How do I love those parts of myself while
rejecting them?

Maybe the bottom line is this: DON'T JUDGE THE
EXPERIENCES. Which makes sense, because people have
this idea that they need to "resist temptation" to do
stuff they know is bad, but at least in my experience
the only reason you are tempted is because you don't
know what you want - if you did, why would you be
persuaded to want anything else? If you know what you
are and who you are, knowing what you want is easy
because you can define your interests with clarity.
It's when you can reside in that limbo state of not
knowing who you are that you can justify engaging in
all manner of conflicting experiences.

*And yet*... maybe it's the catalyst of those
conflicting and potentially harmful experiences that
allows you to discover what you are... hmm... in which
case you put yourself in that limbo state... to
whittle down the possibilities of true identity.

> And to do this, we need the WILL (what moves you:)to

> initiate as catalyst.

Right... what I am starting to see is that applying
the will is a result of the concept of self... at
least in my experience. So it's like a cycle:
identity informs will with a sense of self-interest,
will manifests that interest and provides feedback
that can be distilled and result in new definitions of
self.

> Many times the Will overreacts and the polarities
> are skewed-creating polarity extremes that
> aren't so great, like lust, greed, possessiveness,
> etc. Does that make sense?

Yes, because either the self identifies with these
experiences and continues in these actions, or doesn't
and as a result can strike out find out what the self
really is.

Thanks for your feedback, Chris.

Jeremy

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[Jeremy Weiland]

Hey Paul! Thanks again for providing your feedback.

> The point of emphasizing self-acceptance is that
> non-self-acceptance is so damaging. Without self-
> acceptance, "fixing things" becomes just another
> manifestation of the negative in things.

Yes, I have a lot of experience with condemning myself
for certain thought-patterns and actions, only to find
myself falling back into those patterns. I guess it
implies the same principle as the argument against
protesting for positive change (i.e. opposition only
polarizes and legitimizes the debate, it doesn't
change the debate).

> At the same time, it is possible to accept where and
> what you are with gratitude, and yet want to
> change.

The way I'm beginning to "be clear" about this (I need
a paradigm) and understand it is that it's all a
matter of choice/will. As in, you can do WHATEVER YOU
LIKE, really, *all* possibilities are open to the
individual. (12:12) Once you stop limiting yourself
with what you think you can and can't do, it becomes a
simple matter of choice: "what do I want to do?"
(Maybe that is the true "power of the individual" that
the reading I quoted was talking about) Once you
recognize your true freedom and power, there is no
need to judge actions or the self, because all is
acceptable. And here's the kicker - once you release
yourself from judgement, from the idea that you are
bad, you embrace the possibility that you can be good,
or that you ARE good. And that completely redefines
what you want to do - not that it's easy, it's still a
matter of will and conditioning the mind. The mind is
sort of "broken in" going in one direction, and it
takes effort to break it in to go another way. But if
you can hold on to that essential feeling of freedom
and self-determination, then success is possible, I
think.

> Strong willpower is a tool. When you come into some
> light you might realize that you are finished
> experiencing certain fixations. Strong willpower
> can affect a smooth transition to something new.
> Without this strength a person may not be able to
> summon the energy required to transform. Then they
> will be stuck. It is here that entropy finds its
> purpose.

This is true, but that will has to be directed by a
concept of self that is not always adequately
defined... and I think that is the result of what
people think of as "mistakes". The interesting thing,
of course, is that these "mistakes" allow for catalyst
and further refinement of the identity.

From my experience, willpower is not enough - will is
exhausted if it isn't consistent with the self-concept
and self-interest. You just lose the energy because
the effort doesn't seem worth it - you don't seem
worth the effort. This is why I believe people fall
back into old patterns - the will to do "the right
thing" has to be grounded in the knowledge that you
are worth it. That involves accepting the self and
the distortions without judgment, while continuing to
identify with a new self-concept and and self-interest
and allowing that to inform your willpower. Once you
know who you are, what you want is much easier and
easier to justify the exercise of will that it takes
to break old patterns.

> Everything is exact. When you are finished living
> one set of circumstances, opportunities will arise
> to move onto the next.

Yes, I'm beginning to see once again how perfect and
unified this experience and reality is. :-)

> However many do not have the strength, willpower or
> energy built up to do so in the now. Since they
> cannot renew their own energetic manifestations,
> entropy will do it for them. It is the law of the
> cycle that everything must keep moving. Everything
> does.

Yeah... the entropy and the suffering it implies is
something that I think I've had enough of. Is it
legitimate to avoid complete entropy of the
self-concept, take the reins, and to try to, by sheer
will and work on self, redefine your experience?

As always, I appreciate your input, Paul.

Jeremy

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[Zoe]

> > I'm wondering where self-acceptance and discipline
> > intersect.

Essentially we have to use our will
Paul

Just want to say that I've never changed anything through simple will power.
My experience with life has taught me will power is the least of it. Change
happens of its own when awareness opens to the need for it. My favorite phrase
from The Course in Miracles is "Ye need do nothing." Don Juan taught Carlos
many things, but first and foremost was: "The first duty of a warrior is to put
oneself at ease." He explained -- and I have lived this truth -- that when your
mind is in turmoil, frustration, fear, grief, pain of any kind, you are not
likely to see the truth of the matter. Without that, you cannot take the steps
likely to bring you to the freedom you long for, and forcing it only makes it
worse.

We also must not forget that no one is here alone. There are forces, cycles,
spirits, beings in and out of the 3rd dimension that have their impact on our
lives. 90% of the time, we are unaware of this impact. It has never been about
the conscious mind making a decision of will and carrying it out, although some
would like to believe that. No, deep change, true change of what we are showing
to ourselves and the world in terms of our beliefs, habits, attitudes, opinions,
our personality and character, our actions and our feelings -- always happens
when awareness opens and our consciousness changes. These kinds of changes
don't happen because we will them to, forcefully like a waterfall, or picking
at them like water dripping on a rock -- they change like lightning splitting a
tree, or a sudden breathtaking sunrise. It is often "after the fact" that we
look at ourselves one day and say, "Gee, I don't swear anymore." Or, "Gosh,
I've stopped making excuses for myself." And we know in that moment that we are
far more than our tiny, 3D selves -- and someone, something is listening and
loves us.

There is a fast track to this state of larger awareness, higher consciousness
and change, however. Some on this list have mentioned it before. It's
self-love. Love yourself as much and as often as you know how to do and watch
your awarenss open, your consciousness rise and change happen as easily as
dandelion fuzz floats through the air.

Zoe





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[chris.hamilton2@...>]

Hi Jer, comments below

Chris: But, essentially, we are not disowning a personal
> experience, only distilling it and integrating it
> into our psyche and then balancing it, creating a
> nice compromise.

Jer:Right, yes, this sounds like exactly what I would have
answered had somebody else posed the questions I
did. :-)
But here's the catch, and I've struggled with this for
a long time: what does all that *mean*? I mean, I
know what it means, but I don't.

Chris: Best example is personal experience, so I will give you something of my
goals as I see them thru the astrology. In our north/south nodes of the moon, we
can see what comes easy to us, what we are accomplished at (south) and then just
its opposite, what we are striving for this life (north). A nice happy medium
would be a little of both, right? In my particular case, my south node is in my
house of partnerships-it is easy for me to create relationships, mediate, all
those partnership things we need to do. It is so easy for me that I can get a
little lazy, always having people want to do things for me.:) My goal this life
is to stand up more for myself and be my own person. But, of course if I were to
strike out on my own and be too independent, I wouldn't be doing the partnership
side any good. The idea is to integrate my need for individuality with my
relationship skills. Not as easy as it sounds either :)

Jer:What occurred to me is that you cannot have a
legitimate force of will without some sort of concept
about who you are, what the self is. What you are
determines what your interests are, and consequently
what you want. When you desire something, only then
can you manifest it. For me, so much of the lack of
self-acceptance comes from a desire to be something
other than what I am, what I *know* that I am.
Because there is conflict in how I define myself, I
don't really know what I want, so how can I expect to
accomplish anything?

Chris: That, I do believe is our 3D experience. Even tho you hide something of
yourself under layers of denial, that part will continually bubble to the
surface simply by bringing catalyst into your life that will expose you to that
hidden part. And the same things will happen again and again until you "get it".
(Most don't ever get it, but just keep repeating and repeating:).

Jer:So what you're talking about - distilling the
experience, especially that of misidentification with
more distorted portions of self - is golden. I want
to do this, but... let me see if I can explain it. I
want to do it in a way where I am accepting that
self-identity that is destructive *without* continuing
to identify with it. There seems to be a rejection in
there. How do I love those parts of myself while
rejecting them?

Chris: As I had mentioned before, I don't believe we should reject any part of
us. Simply accept it and then try to mediate with yourself on how best to use
that energy you aren't very fond of. We all have both polarities in us all the
time, but most are not conflicting internal issues because we have already
distilled them into ideas and ideals we accept.

Jer:Maybe the bottom line is this: DON'T JUDGE THE
EXPERIENCES. *And yet*... maybe it's the catalyst of those
conflicting and potentially harmful experiences that
allows you to discover what you are... hmm... in which
case you put yourself in that limbo state... to
whittle down the possibilities of true identity.

Chris: Allow the experiences. You have brought them forth to experience
afterall.
> And to do this, we need the WILL (what moves you:)to
> initiate as catalyst.

Jer:Right... what I am starting to see is that applying
the will is a result of the concept of self... at
least in my experience. So it's like a cycle:
identity informs will with a sense of self-interest,
will manifests that interest and provides feedback
that can be distilled and result in new definitions of
self.

Chris: This comes to mind-"Energy can neither be created nor destroyed" :)

[Michael Bergman]

energy can neither be created nor destroyed only transformed

peace
mikey

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[chris.hamilton2@...>]

Thank you Mikey :) Chris

energy can neither be created nor destroyed only transformed

peace
mikey

[Jeremy Weiland]

Hi Mawk and Lori, thanks for both of your thoughts on
triggers and their relationship to behavioral change.

> What is really interesting about this phenomena is
> that a trigger can create a thought process that
> then activates a very complex behavioural process.

This is why I want to become clear on the process of
transformation, in a nutshell - in 3D, we have to work
with the mind, and the mind is a creature of habit.
Through ritual, genuine examination, and willpower, I
think one can break unneccessary habits, i.e. use this
triggering process to one's advantage. It's like drug
addicts who super-organize their life and routine in
order to break the addiction - they essentially create
a ritual, a routine that supercedes the old routine.

And Lori, what you were saying about healthy tissue
having no trigger points, that's really interesting.
It think what it comes down to is that perfectly
balanced minds have no trigger points - but also no
opportunities to experience imbalance and the catalyst
of triggering, that temporary loss of conscious
control
and the reversion to old patterns. One of the reasons
I believe 3D involves this process of redefining the
self and using the willpower to ground this new
definition is I believe, in 4D, we need to be able to
have that strength of will in order to function in the
higher, more intense densities. That willpower
probably translates to higher frequencies of energy,
and we can function better in a more energetic
environment if we have the strength to handle those
energies and also are unblocked in our source of those
energies.

Love and light,

Jeremy

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[Lesley Schultz]

Dear Jeremy, L/L and Peace to All:


--- Jeremy Weiland <greenlantern113@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=5SwreT9sk6gr5ngk6hsRW8vV-EIzVl1ke1soTLENzFmpodxYVddRyE-Uj-eOyCYjgeZ0yWqNIsGUo9RCn8gvLA)> wrote:
[snip]
As in, you can do WHATEVER > YOU
> LIKE, really, *all* possibilities are open to the
> individual. (12:12) Once you stop limiting
> yourself > with what you think you can and can't do,
it becomes> a
> simple matter of choice: "what do I want to do?"
[snip]
>
I always appreciate your feedback, and this is a great
thread. Thanks, Paul et al, for your contributions.

Maybe I need a new paradigm too, because sometimes
what appears to be a choice is really not much of a
choice at all. One can, for example, choose not to be
afraid to cross a busy expressway during rush hour,
even though common sense is telling you not to do it.
You might get hit. And let us remember, our choices
often affect more people than ourselves. Even suppose
you get hit, and you are killed, think of the person
who was driving the car that hit you. He or she has
to live with that for the rest of his/her life. Yes,
we have choices, but often they are uncomfortable
ones. At what point does "uncomfortable" become
denial of real conditions? Now, THERE'S an interesting
question...

Ra said in one of the channeling sessions that 3D is
about learning the lessons of love-- wisdom begins at
4D and later. We shouldn't even try to use our brains
to acquire it in any serious way-- they aren't
intended for this purpose and aren't "up to it"
anyway. There are days when I think those of Ra are
correct about this....human beings really aren't very
bright. If it weren't for undefinable things like
"intuition", "imagination" and "inspiration", not one
worthwhile thing would have ever been
made/understood/created/utilized for the common good.

I'd agree that our transformation from 3D to 4D is
greatly aided by "intuition," "imagination" and
"inspiration", and I think Seth is right that it takes
a healthy mind in a healthy body to take best
advantage of the energies that exist now to uplift our
state. In the end, though, all boats are rising on the
tide of 4D, no matter what their state. And if the
state changes before the 3D physical entity does, and
the 3D existence must be abandoned in favor of 4D,
it's okay. It's all good.

There are some mighty fine people on this list, with
equally sharp, inquisitive minds- lively and
disciplined. I respect them very much. I wonder,
though, if perhaps this strong desire to work the
"hard science" angle on transformation might be a
little self-defeating. DW's work, and Dr.
Smelyakov's[sp?] ground-breaking and brilliant
discoveries are so very different from what many of us
learned in school about the nature of the universe and
physics in general.

My point is that their work may be only the barest
beginning of understanding of how the universe REALLY
works, that there is much, much more out there [or so
my intuition informs me]. All of our paradigms,
whether in hard science, philosophy, natural history,
the soft sciences like psychology and economics and
even art and literature, need to shift upwards too.
In all probably, they already are- it just isn't as
obvious yet.

I just wanted to say that everything is changing, that
there is so much to learn, with work as seminal as
Newton's and Kepler's and Bohr's and Einstein's still
to come. I think it might serve science and ourselves
better to give all ideas of how things work some
consideration, even if they sound silly and
"unscientific" or "non-technical". After all, they
laughed at the man who discovered Penicillan. They
told the Wright Brothers that they were crazy to think
machines could fly. Jules Verne the novelist wrote
about many inventions that are commonplace today, well
before they were even thought of.

Bless you all,
~lesley








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[Jason Wharton]

My experience with transformation has been heightened quite a bit over the
past year. I've been taking some courses and programs with Landmark
Education and their intent is to bring the technology of transformation to
the world. Here's some of the things I've gotten out of my experience with
them. I consider this organization experts in the field of transformation.

Human beings are whole, complete and perfect. We just have barriers that
prevent us from experiencing our wholeness, completeness and perfection.
These barriers are created by 'stories' we have made up about what has
happened in our lives. All our anguish is actually sourced in the language
of our stories about things. We make up stories about ourselves and the
world we live in that become constraints upon our future. Over time we have
such a stockpile of stories that our future is almost completely dominated
by our past. Thus, our world keeps getting smaller and smaller and we begin
to feel powerless and resigned and suppressed in experiencing all of life.
Unless there is a wake-up, people give up their dreams and highest ambitions
and prefer instead to let the stories (illusions) constrain their lives.

How to break out of this pattern, wake up and transform your life? It begins
by accepting the fundamental belief that you can have anything you want for
yourself and your life. All barriers are surmountable given the time and
effort. Progress begins to be made when you start being straight with
yourself and others about what is so in your life and what you have been
pretending. In essence, this is a process of giving up your stories. People
start getting that they are literally the creators of their life and access
to that is found in clearly defining reality from story. Excuses, drama,
complaints, etc. begin to vaporize as people rise up and begin realizing
where they are giving up being responsible and being a cause in their own
life.

We give up being responsible by making ourselves 'right' and/or others
'wrong', by dominating others and/or avoiding being dominated, by validating
ourselves and/or invalidating others. It becomes clear that to maintain
these ways of avoiding responsibility actually cost us love and affinity
with people. Other costs include fulfillment, joy, self expression, peace,
health, etc.

Usually this shows up as someone pretending to care about someone but what
they are really trying to do is dominate them or manipulate them. For
example, in my role as a father (I have 4 small children) I got really clear
that when I dominate my children I am simply avoiding being responsible as a
father. For some reason I got it in my head that that is how I care for them
(my story). The reality is that I pretend to care about them but I am just
dominating them and making myself right and them wrong. Great amounts of
effort have been put into validating myself in this way of being with my
children too. But, upon taking a close look at the reality of this whole
scenario, I discovered my caring is merely a pretense hiding that I am
essentially shirking responsibility and taking away others responsibility
from them rather than training them to be responsible. With this clearly
into view I then have the opportunity to presence myself to the impact of
this pretense. I AM frustrated, angry, unfulfilled, sad, resigned, lonely
and suppressed. My children are also frustrated, angry, sad, resigned,
lonely and suppressed. It's not pleasant making myself fully present to that
but by accepting that I am generating that and placing myself in the reality
of it is a cleansing act. Another way to put it is that which we resist
persists. In the space of that clearing generated by experiencing (not
describing or merely understanding) the impact I then have an opportunity to
invent something new for myself and my life. I now have it instead of it
having me. In my case I invented the possibility of peaceful freedom. By
doing this I now have a way of being for myself and others in my life that
supports what I am committed to. Everything that shows up which confronts
that I then go through the process of transforming it again and again. Over
time you are a complete clearing for what it is you want. In short, it is
ultimately realized that we receive within ourselves that which we create a
clearing for in our lives. The universe abhors a vacuum and has an infinite
supply of whatever we are a clearing for.

It is also important to recognize that everyone else on this earth is
endowed with creative/generative powers. If we have had an insight and
transformed something for ourselves it doesn't actually exist in reality
yet. It is upon us to also share our insights with others and confess to
them where we have been pretending things and presence them to the impacts
of it. Then we share with them what possibility we have created for
ourselves and when they get that we got that for ourselves they are fueling
the reality of our creation with their creative abilities. The more people
we share with and touch, move and inspire by the things we are up to the
more potent our realities become. You can think of it as tapping into the
power of human listening.

A person's level of power (the real kind) is measured in their ability to
touch, move and inspire others. It is this context which brings people to a
harmonious and healthy mindset for actions to be taken in. False power is
when you can force actions of others against their own will. Thus, a
powerful person will not force anyone into something but when they present
opportunities to others they are unattached to the outcome and the person
being invited is free to accept or decline the invitation. We also get that
our integrity is of utmost importance. We need to be our word because our
word gives rise to our world. We need to plan our work and then work our
plan. We are creators fully responsible for our own being. Leadership is our
ability to present actions to others that occur as opportunities and they
are free to accept or decline. In short, a foundation for human
transformation is a triad of integrity, power and leadership as defined
here.

I could go on for quite a while but I think this gives a pretty good idea of
some of what I've gotten out of my experience with Landmark Education's
delivery of the technology of human transformation. I am now volunteering as
a coach working one-on-one with participants in their programs and I have
seen transformation become alive and real in the lives of many people,
especially my own. We get our own transformation as we assist others in
getting theirs. I highly recommend to everyone to find a structure in your
life that will support you in your transformation. I'm sure Landmark isn't
the only opportunity for that though I do recommend them without hesitation.
Hopefully you won't think of this as an advertisement. My sharing wouldn't
be complete if I didn't credit the source of my transformation.

FWIW,
Jason Wharton
CPS - Mesa AZ
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-- But together we have it all --

[Chris Hamilton]

>Jason: Human beings are whole, complete and perfect. We just have barriers
that
> prevent us from experiencing our wholeness, completeness and perfection.
> These barriers are created by 'stories' we have made up about what has
> happened in our lives.

Chris: I really liked your entire post Jason. It was great. I just wanted
to add to these 'stories' you speak of. I think this is especially true when
we are children. Children see things in such a simple light: It's either
their fault or it's not. And usually a child will blame themselves for all
the adults who hurt them, because all the child wants to do is love. And if
the adult hurt them, then it is obvious to the child he (not the adult-they
are perfect-the adult in this case is the 'god' of the child) did something
terribly wrong. Then he makes up a 'story' and tucks it in his psyche, and
it develops into a full-fledged adult hang-up, all hidden in secret little
corners. I think that's one of the ways we, as positively-oriented beings
can help the most: reach out to all of our scared little child parts, hug
them, and tell them that it's not their fault. Forgive them, then we forgive
ourselves, then it all spirals to others. And then we have the phi continuum
again, which is perfect in itself.

[pfow]

Yes Mikey, I agree. I am however tempted to ask...'by whom/what?' the clasic
free will/destiny thing.

Energy can neither be created nor destroyed only transformed

peace
mikey

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[Michael Bergman]

In my humble opinion we are all angels descended into matter so that we can
experience and make known that we are god. We can only experience the oneness
of all that is by becoming an individualized aspect of the whole. For if there
was only oneness there could be no knowing of itself. Or to make a long story
short I am that I am, I hope that answers your by whom/what? and as you can
probably tell I am currently reading Communion with God.

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[pfow]

Hi Jeremy

This is why I want to become clear on the process of
transformation, in a nutshell - in 3D, we have to work
with the mind, and the mind is a creature of habit.
Through ritual, genuine examination, and willpower, I
think one can break unneccessary habits,
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To be motivated and without unnecessary habits...

There are many good inital steps to take, like diet/smoking/activities for
example. They all work in providing an improvement no matter how small (a
catalyst :-)

A genuine examination; .....if you don't like what you see, admit it to
self...and try not to do it again. 'Will/Motivation' defininately comes into
play, but wishing serves a purpose too.
I think fasting is an excellent mind/body cleaner/frequency-altering positive
motivator.


That willpower probably translates to higher frequencies of energy,
and we can function better in a more energetic
environment if we have the strength to handle those
energies and also are unblocked in our source of those
energies.

:-)

I enjoy this thread.
the kind Regards,
Susan
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[Paul Kandrah]

> Because there is conflict in how I define myself, I
> don't really know what I want, so how can I expect to
> accomplish anything?
> Jeremy

There is a concept that I came across recently that helped me
understand this.

In Mexico there is a word that is derived from ancient Toltec
knowledge called 'mitote'. The general meaning of a mitote is one
of those large markets with hundreds of people all talking at the
same time so that you can understand nothing of what is being said,
because of shear noise and distraction. It is suggested that a
mitote is the actual state of mind in the average person: where so
many voices and sub-personalities exist, any of which can be
triggered depending upon the moment. It is suggested that this
multitude of sub-personalities, all with their own intent, are the
cause of inconsistency in a person. The variety is also the cause
of internal conflict.

If you cannot control your thoughts, your thoughts will control
you. That is one major implication.

But the main reason mitote is mentioned as part of Toltec knowledge
is because in such a state it is hard to find silence. And without
internal silence a person will not be able to hear the subtle,
powerful, and true voice of the soul. Whether you can this soul
aspect - God, Ra, Higher Self, Nagual, or any of the other many
names that have been used - doesn't matter. What does matter is the
experience of this Force within me and you, imo.

So the point of the Toltec lesson on the mitote is not to
distinguish between all the voices in our head. Rather, the lesson
in the mitote is that we need to silence the multitude within if we
are ever going to feel the presence of our soul... and 'know' the
answers.

It really brings to light the implications of thinking about
something too much. I have often found that thinking less is much
more effective.

> > Many times the Will overreacts and the polarities
> > are skewed-creating polarity extremes that
> > aren't so great, like lust, greed, possessiveness,
> > etc. Does that make sense?
> > Chris

So when should 'will' be used? If 'will' is applied on yourself
because of the call of one of those voices in the multitude, then
the force of that 'will' will probably push against another aspect
within you, creating internal conflict. It all comes down to the
source of the intent.

When I realized that I have a mitote going on in my mind - and I
simultaneously realized that the only times that I really have
entered a transcendent state was when I put my mind into silence -
well... I felt a strong need to change. I am finished with that
habit, for that is all that it is. I have lived the mitote and now
understand what it does, and how it limits me. I DO want to align
with the soul aspect within me; it is a major force in my life. So
now all I need is to find a way to get there, permanently.

Since 'will' is a tool that I can apply, I do. The mitote is just
a habit. There are many ways that habits can be changed, and the
slow rusting away of the mitote under the forces of will and
awareness that I can apply may eventually do the trick. There are
other forces that will be important in the recipe, such a self-love,
which is immensely important. But in the end all that matters is
what I find when I enter into a state of mind where everything is
silent, so that instead of the mitote I hear ONE voice, and feel
that ONE love.

As an aside, this may sound like channeling, but it never feels that
way to me. It feels like home. It feels more like me than all of
these thoughts, these illusions. When I enter that state I feel
with overwhelming force that I am doing the right thing in battling
the presence of the mitote in my mind, though without denigrating it
in any way. Just an acceptance: a freefall backwards into nothing.
I knew this a long time ago too, but through the momentum and
attrition of the mitote, I forgot. That is its power.

Now this does not mean that suddenly I am 'there', now in a silent
state of mind, all the time. At first I was, for several hours, and
able to watch the elements of the mitote surface, and able to
identify each as they came up. (This is the one that needs
attention from others. This is the one that feels anger: why is
that? Etc.) I judged none of them and only watched, and they lost
their power. I know that they are aspects of my personalities,
aspects of self, which are distinct from the overpowering presence
of that ONE true voice state of mind. And those aspects can leave,
if I do the work. I simply whittle away at the voices, trying to
stay aware as much as I can, and not be hard on myself when I do
not. Presently this is my task... above ALL. Moment by moment.

I have never felt down on myself for "doing things wrong". Even in
the midst of hard times there is that voice in my head suggesting
the lesson... something to learn from. Then the discomfort
dissolves as I absorb what is offered in knowledge. It all comes
down to being aware of that nurturing voice within, for it is always
speaking... though softer than all the other voices speaking so
loud.

Sharing these experiences helps too, I've noticed. Writing it down
gives it a strength in belief that is required. Belief that This is
there, that it is possible, for we tend to forget those times in the
midst of so many distractions. We 'can' bolster each others. But
ultimately, when we have enough proficiency and strength with our
own 'will', we can also do it for ourselves. Because most of the
time it is just us standing, alone in any moment, facing the
sublime.

This is part of the path of the spiritual warrior, which I am on.
The proficiency of my 'will', to be guided by the Intent of the ONE
voice, is important to me.

More thoughts for a good discussion.

Paul

[Paul Kandrah]

Hi Jeremy,

> As in, you can do WHATEVER YOU
> LIKE, really, *all* possibilities are open to the
> individual. (12:12)

I re-read your posting and came to this point where you reference
the time. Oh how I laughed! (private j/k) I have heard that
sentiment before by elements of a powerful darkness. I know the
sentiment is 'true', and yet it is also true that each of us has a
choice.

> Is it
> legitimate to avoid complete entropy of the
> self-concept, take the reins, and to try to, by sheer
> will and work on self, redefine your experience?

The appraisal of legitimacy is a judgment.

I am not suggesting that entropy be avoided because it is "bad", for
that too would be a judgment. It is just within our ability to
decide what current we wish to ride. Entropy, as a current, is
always there, and is always washing over us. But I believe that
this process can also be short circuited, and the cycle of death and
rebirth can occur, through work and forbearance aligned with spirit,
many times in life.

Paul

[Jeremy Weiland]

> I re-read your posting and came to this point where
> you reference the time. Oh how I laughed! (private

> j/k) I have heard that sentiment before by elements

> of a powerful darkness. I know the sentiment
> is 'true', and yet it is also true that each of us
> has a choice.

Exactly - and it is the availability of infinite
possibilities to the entity that allows that choice to
be meaningful.

"Elements of a powerful darkness"???? What the hell
does that mean? :-)

> The appraisal of legitimacy is a judgment.

Yeah, you're right. Instead of trying to figure out
if I'm doing it "right", just figure out what you want
to do/be and do/be.

Thanks, Paul.

Jeremy

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can you pass that do/be over here? :)
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Yeah, you're right. Instead of trying to figure out
if I'm doing it "right", just figure out what you want
to do/be and do/be.



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[Lesley Schultz]

Dear Brian and L/L to All:

--- Brian Cox <brian.cox@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=T6eIagLDYdFy-yDdIyK_qzv7kdRekNnXu1pgBTKwzkTFAOvcbRs6HuYiKRvDvnT PCtR0yYNmN-A)> wrote:
> can you pass that do/be over here? :) [snip]

Thanks for the giggle, Brian! I haven't had a good
laugh in days.

Blessings,
~lesley



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[Paul Kandrah]

> "Elements of a powerful darkness"???? What the hell
> does that mean? :-)

Well the 12 repeated (in the time stamp) represents a certain
gentleman that I knew a few years ago who used to say something
similiar. He was the element, and I have come to realize that this
element was quite dark. Not a judgment here upon you at all, or him
for that matter - simply a discernment. This is just a coincidence
that you brought up unknowingly. I happened to experience some
powerful people who choose STS with a passion and vengence that is
scarey. They feel they have their reasons.

"Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law."

> Exactly - and it is the availability of infinite
> possibilities to the entity that allows that choice to
> be meaningful.
> Jeremy

yep

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"Paul Kandrah <essent321@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=ttsxGNUzTiOwa1xSptYSm_EpB2cSCBwULTJrlw uglABXoA_JeJLBUbwndfkMjNKwMA0wavYb-rtFiw)>" <essent321@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=ttsxGNUzTiOwa1xSptYSm_EpB2cSCBwULTJrlw uglABXoA_JeJLBUbwndfkMjNKwMA0wavYb-rtFiw)> wrote:
Everythings is exact.
Paul, you, wrote many more words than this one line, all excellent, but you
wrote this one twice and I felt a warmth of recognition reading it. I might be
wrong but I imagined this as one of the many thoughts you might mentally say to
yourself in any given moment. Trying to truly see that moment with all that you
hold to be true.
Ya know? All these teachings and interestings and perspectives I think we all
try to actualize or live... To bring it down from the head into the heart -
meeting our self, others, and the catalyst in between, with the ideals we uphold
and the thoughts about our universe, to be known in a more realized and
experiential kind of way.
At least that's what it's like for me. Much of this talk about evolution and how
it works out in us isn't just intellectual musings and mental food to chew and
snack on but more like the subjectively realized truth that I am on hot pursuit
chasing down...
That you said, "Everything is exact" reminded me of one of my favorite
affirmations that sounds a lot like my line, "This moment is right"... right,
exact, true, perfect... all synonyms labeling in language the vibration of
faith.
When some tiny little chunk of truth or greater realization comes my way, or
when I can bring through a remembrance of it when old programs respond to
present catalyst, it's like I am using Herbal Essence... "Yes! YES!!! Damn It!!
Everything IS exact, everything IS right!! I have solved the riddle of this
creation! I done figured it out!" Thinking that i can then kick back, put my
feet up and enjoy the rest of the show in complete ease, comfort and the certain
satisfaction that I have completed growing....

until the next batch of catalyst strikes...

Love on,

GLB



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