--- In asc2k@y..., bjorn_nitmou@y... wrote:
> Are we god's AI's.........
I've been wondering that myself bjorn. If anyones studied
astrology in depth, you could make a case that that is our
programming. Perhaps free will only exists in that we can change
that programming.
No biggy here, but I've been thinking a lot about how the movie
showed all emotions stem from love. You create the ability to love,
you create fear, anger, hate, desire, sorrow, regret etc. I had just
never thought about that before.
Love and light, Frank
>
>
>
> --- In asc2k@y..., "David Wilcock" <djw333@e...> wrote:
> > SPOILER WARNING...
> >
> > As far as symbolism is concerned - I understood the boy in the
> > helecopter not being able to get close to the blue fairy - I cant
> > quite remember what held him back------But what was really
> > interesting was the fairiswheel creating a cage that "locked him
> into
> > his position." Could this be some suggestion of a hardening of a
> > lower vibration, before he was unfrozen 2 thousand years later?
> >
> >
> > DW: There are undoubtedly layers upon layers of symbolic meanings
> in this film, especially as it comes together in the third portion.
> First of all, some sort of cataclysm had happened in only 2,000
years
> that caused NY to be under an incredible amount of ice. The boy
being
> programmed to love unconditionally is a definite statement about
what
> fourth-density positive conditions here on Earth will be like. The
> movie also emphasizes how relatively few are likely to be able to
> attain that vibration, and how oppressed they have been by those
who
> don't feel the same way.
> >
> > I wanted to let someone else find this first, but oh well. Think
> about the exact setup of what happened to the boy and its symbolic
> meaning. First of all, he is in a copter that flies both in air and
> underwater... representing a higher vehicle of consciousness as
> dreams always do. Secondly, what fell on top of him was a Ferris
> wheel. This has highly obvious references to the cycles of time
that
> the Initiates all know about; what goes around comes around. Also
> notice that it was exactly 2,000 years later that the ETs came to
> visit him. So there is a clear nod to the Judeo-Christian idea of
> cycles, as well as what we know from the 2,160 year cycles of the
> Zodiac that correspond so well with human events.
> >
> > In short, whatever cataclysm befell human civilization in between
> is not discussed... there are lots of hidden inferences to be made.
> >
> > Peace be with you -
> >
> > - David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In asc2k@y..., centaur27@m... wrote:
> > > AI spoiler:
> > >
> > > As far as the aliens being machines, I had the impression they
> were
> > > in a higher vibration, In their astral bodies/light bodies so
to
> > > speak, as they had that glowing sparkling look. Also when the
> > alien
> > > being put his/her(asexual?) hand inches from the childs
forehead,
> > and
> > > then they all grasped hands as they peered into his mind, I
felt
> > they
> > > created the blue fairy image so that they could more easily
> > question
> > > him, get more information from him. If the blue fairy was just
> what
> > > he wanted to see, why wouldn't he be able to see his mother?
Why
> > was
> > > the lock of hair necessary? Regardless, I do believe our
personal
> > > mythology is the first thing we see in the afterlife, and maybe
> you
> > > are saying it's purely symbolic/subliminal and not part of the
> > > storyline. Well I think its definitely a movie you'll probably
> get
> > > more from seeing it twice, I have a feeling I missed a lot.
> > >
> > > --- In asc2k@y..., "David Wilcock" <djw333@e...> wrote:
> > > > SPOILER WARNING...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your last statement did make sence....
> > > > As far as anyone loving the boy....I guess I thought there
was
> no
> > > way
> > > > that those people would have saved him at the carnival. Why
> save
> > a
> > > > machine?
> > > >
> > > > DW: Personally I wasn't too concerned with the earlier stages
> of
> > > the film. The story was written many years ago and Kubrick had
> > wanted
> > > to make the film for years and years. I think that probably the
> > main
> > > reason why he never got to it was because the technology to do
> the
> > > end section properly simply didn't exist before the modern CGI
> > > graphics.
> > > >
> > > > You don't (at least I don't) watch movies with high
> expectations.
> > > The idea of artificial intelligence somehow "taking over" and
> > > attacking humanity was made vogue by Kubrick's own 2001, but
> these
> > > days it has been superceded by worries of genetic engineering
and
> > the
> > > like.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As far as the aliens being machines -well....I have to agree
> with
> > > > your dad. The aliens made statments in reagard to humans, as
> > > though
> > > > they were the only ones who could be characterized as
> > > having "life,"
> > > > this is very hard to explain - But I wish I could remember
the
> > > actual
> > > > dialog - But based on their statmemnts I just got the idea
that
> > > they
> > > > were not living.....But Im not totally confident of this.
> > > >
> > > > DW: This is the biggest spoiler section:
> > > >
> > > > The beings did NOT say that they were not alive. They did say
> > that
> > > the boy had interacted with "living people." People. That
doesn't
> > > mean that they were only "machines."
> > > >
> > > > Remember that the beings said that "we discovered that the
> energy
> > > of the Universe itself is conscious." Now granted, that was
> brought
> > > up in the context of an Akashic Records idea, explaining why
they
> > > could bring the mother back but only for one day...
> > her "coordinates"
> > > were etched into a previous space-time. However, it was from
that
> > > initial point that you realized something incredible. Since
> energy
> > > itself in the Universe is alive, the beings themselves were
> > alive...
> > > artificial intelligence was intelligence, life was life because
> the
> > > energy that the beings were using was conscious. That's what
blew
> > my
> > > mind so much... and it totally made sense.
> > > >
> > > > There are many other symbolic levels of meaning in it as
well.
> > The
> > > boy was given a hallucinatory image of the Blue Fairy because
> > that's
> > > what he wanted to see; that's what he expected. I saw HUGE
> > parallels
> > > between this idea and the concept expressed in the Seth books
and
> > > other sources, where the higher forces have a responsibility to
> > enact
> > > your personal mythology in the afterdeath state.
> > > >
> > > > Another major point of symbolism was how the boy was frozen
and
> > > then thawed out when the beings found him. To me it was an
> obvious
> > > symbol of how consciousness must "freeze" to enter into this
> higher
> > > realm.
> > > >
> > > > There's other stuff too, but I'm definitely going to see it
> again
> > > to get further details.
> > > >
> > > > Peace be with you -
> > > >
> > > > - David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In asc2k@y..., "Tiffani Boswell" <tiffani@2...> wrote:
> > > > > I am dying to hear David's interpretation....
> > > > >
> > > > > I got into a huge discussion with my father (who saw it
with
> me)
> > > > > he was convinced the beings at the end were machine?
> > > > > anyone else even remotely think that?
> > > > >
> > > > > my aregument to him was that they couldn't have been
because
> > then
> > > > they would
> > > > > have had some "memory" of humanity, which they didn't, and
> they
> > > had
> > > > multi
> > > > > dimensional capabilities....
> > > > >
> > > > > In response to the previous post...there were not many I
> > thought
> > > > who "loved"
> > > > > the boy...just the mother, who was grieving severely....or
> that
> > > is
> > > > all I
> > > > > gathered...
> > > > >
> > > > > one comment i did agree on with my Dad was it did seem to
> > > > incorporate many
> > > > > "old school" theories into one package....I didn't feel
like
> a
> > > lot
> > > > of "new"
> > > > > information was out there....although it did spin it in a
way
> > > that
> > > > it felt
> > > > > new....does that make sense?
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Rosi" <rosibuchanan@y...>
> > > > > To: <asc2k@y...>
> > > > > Sent: July 10, 2001 8:40 AM
> > > > > Subject: [asc2k] AI Spoiler
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Bjorn, I'm not reading your post...looks like the
> discussion
> > has
> > > > > > begun. I'll just avoid AI postings until I see it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > Rosi
> > > > > >
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