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Tarzan
01-01-1997, 04:28 AM
Group,
I'd love it if the war were to be forestalled for some time
or for good, but according to this latest, urgent report
from Mike Ruppert's site...
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012403_invasion.ht
ml
...I am not so sanquine about the war-related probabilities.
It's tiime to wage peace with intense prayers and
visualizations of our huge peace tide to keep on undermining
the war-obsessed ba$tards, I say. Step up your
prayers...don't back off...join the next, nearest peace/war
march to your nearest town...check out www.indymedia.org for
one nearest to you. Let's make our peace tide unmistakably
HUGE and smother them PTB's with Love (Powers That Be).
Note to the illegitimate moron prez: A State of the Union
comment..."Dude, we're in a hell of a state".
BTW, I participated in a huge peacemarch in San Fransisco,
where 175, 000 (my estimate, based on 1,000 people marching
by per minute times 150 minutes, plus extra people all over
the place--stats that were close to estimates of others who
closely watched the march) people showed up and marched. It
was awesome to see such a huge sea of humanity showing that
they really DO get it about the fraudulent nature of the
current gummint and the importance of PEACE NOW. Live
street theatre is awesome. Don't miss it.
It was a nearly totally peaceful event, except after the
march, when I was returning to our bus (a funky old '65
Chevy pot-loaded hippie bus overloaded with people and I
half-expected chickens, pigs, etc to come out from under the
seats) while walking on Market St. with a lady friend and,
all of a sudden, we had a huge crowd of several thousand
black-banded people (anarchists) who were running right at
us at full speed and, before we knew it, we were fully
surrounded by a sea of anarchists, who were followed closely
by pissed-off-looking PIGS (cops) on motorcycles, horses and
jackboots in riot gear. Sheesh, I wanted to be anywhere but
there at that moment. I felt my hand instinctively reach for
my non-existent sword. My lady friend tightly grabbed my
hand while I saw an opportunity to run like hell through a
seam (like in a football game) in the sea of
cops/anarchists/cars, so we ran through them in the middle
of the crazy, busy intersection that also had confused,
angry drivers of cars, buses and trucks honking away. Crazy
moment.
And guess what street the anarchists/cops just came off
of?...Bush Street, I kid you not; and where I and my lady
friend were was right at where Bush Street conjoins Battery
Street and Market Street, so in a flash on my mind while all
this was happening, that this little event was symbolic of
Bush battering our market with his violence (as rep'd by the
cops) and the resistance of the people, who were represented
by the anarchists, resisted/opposed the violence pushed at
us by Prez Tush.
It is interesting that even a mad-house moment like that can
have deep symbolism.
Oh, there were some really great signs:
"Bush is a Tush"
"Empty Warheads"...a poster depicting the three heads of the
Tush, the Dick and Rummy with their heads being opened and
empty. Yup.
"Bomb Texas--they have oil, too"
"Wage Peace"
"State wages war, not the People"
"Dude, are you deaf?...We the People say, 1000 to 1, NO
F**KING WAR, DUDE... D-U-D-E!!"
~Seth
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Tarzan
03-18-2003, 06:35 AM
Group,
Are we to allow this war to happen? Is it meant to happen like the 911 event
that apparently was allowed to happen as an
intensification of polarization on this planet? Are we supposed to just roll
over and allow this stupid war to happen? Clearly the
many millions of people marching in the world has made it abundantly clear to
anybody--people and ET beings alike--that the people
of the world DO NOT support war--it is the "governments" of the world that
support war, in collusion with their banksters and
corporations who profit enormously from war. It is the central banks,
surrounded by their greedy corporations who are pushing
for--and getting--their damn wars over and above the loud and clear objections
of many millions of people world-wide.
It is clear to anybody with any active, perceptive grey matter between their
ears that the vast majority of people world-wide OPPOSE
this BS war, in contravention to the convention of status-quo, mainstream-news
reports of 2/3rds (according to the lastes rigged
"polls") of the persons in the US Empire "supporting" the shrub's ultimatim to
Saddam (who may actually be already dead).
I'd really like to still somehow pull off a miracle to stop the war, but if it
is meant to be, like the 911 event, then perhaps this
bullshiat war must happen for the awakening of the rest of humanity--what do you
think? Already the mere prospect of the war has
united humanity like nothing else ever has, but the mere prospect of a war and
the real aftermath of a war of this scale are two
really different things.
In 72 hours from now, we may have as many as half a million dead people on our
collective hands, half of which are innocent
children. This does not sit well with me. Every gallon of gas that we now buy
comes at the cost of pints of blood of innocent
children. This really bothers me. But WTF can I do other than do symbolic
protests?
Perhaps we can pray for divine, natural intervention, such as this:
http://homepage.eircom.net/~gulufuture/news/solar_flare030318.htm
Solar flares so strong that the "smart" weapons can't function; sandstorms so
strong that the military can't function in their march
into Bagdad; storms-of-the-centuries to sweep in and disrupt the military in
their march into Bagdad--we can create those
"miracles", can't we? The military is now restricted to marching into Bagdad
through the narrow routes through Basra, et al., so
this alone is a huge risk and a huge slow-down of the US military, who'd prefer
to pour into Bagdad via Turkey and other nations.
Maybe we can visualize severe, out-of-season snowstorms/hailstorms in that
region to stop/slow down the war?
Can't millions of people visualize this kind of natural intervention? Or are we
supposed to "allow" this war to happen for the
over-all awakening of humanity? Are the millions of Iraqi children incarnating
here and now specifically to be martyrs so that
humanity can awaken to the reality of humanity's inhumanity against humanity?
I dunno. This war really f****g bothers me and I just don't know what effective
thing that I can do about it other than post
articles on the internet and pray my own prayers about it.
Anyone who response to this post--please be sure to delete the dead text.
~Seth
Chris Hamilton
03-18-2003, 06:00 PM
My wonderful friend Seth,
I am putting up this message, which I originally received by DP (David
Pearson aka Light Eye), because I think it addresses all of your frustrated
questions. Thank you David :) Hope you haven't tried to post this again. I
am very grateful for your caring. Love you all, Chris
here was Seth's angst:
> Group,
> > Are we to allow this war to happen? Is it meant to happen like the 911
event that apparently was allowed to happen as an
> intensification of polarization on this planet? Are we supposed to just
roll over and allow this stupid war to happen?
Here is the article via DP (Light Eye):
The Story Of Life
- author unknown -
Sometimes people come into your life and you know right away that they were
meant to be there, to serve some sort of purpose, teach you a lesson, or to
help you figure out who you are or who you want to become. You never know
who these people may be (possibly your roommate, neighbor, coworker, long
lost friend, lover, or even a complete stranger), *but when you lock eyes
with them, you know at that very moment they will affect your life in some
profound way.*
And sometimes things happen to you that may seem horrible, painful, and
unfair at first, but in reflection you find that without overcoming those
obstacles you would have never realized your potential, strength, willpower,
or heart.
*Everything happens for a reason.*
Nothing happens by chance or by means of good luck.
Illness, injury, love, lost moments of true greatness, and sheer stupidity
all occur to test the limits of your soul.
Without these small tests, whatever they may be, life would be like a
smoothly paved, straight, flat road to nowhere. It would be safe and
comfortable, but dull and utterly pointless.
The people you meet who affect your life, and the success and downfalls you
experience, help to create who you are and who you become. *Even the bad
experiences can be learned from.* In fact, they are probably the most
poignant and important ones.
If someone hurts you, betrays you, or breaks your heart, forgive them, for
they have helped you learn about trust and the importance of being cautious
when you open your heart.
If someone loves you, love them back unconditionally, not only because they
love you, but because in a way, they are teaching you to love and howto open
your heart and eyes to things.
*Make every day count.*
Appreciate every moment and take from those moments everything that you
possibly can for you may never be able to experience it again.
Talk to people that you have never talked to before, and actually listen.
Let yourself fall in love, break free, and set your sights high.
Hold your head up because you have every right to.
Tell yourself you are a great individual and believe in yourself, for if you
don't believe in yourself, it will be hard for others to believe in you.
You can make of your life anything you wish.
Create your own life and then go out and live it with absolutely no regrets.
*Most importantly,* *if you LOVE someone tell him or her, for you never know
what tomorrow may have in store.*
And learn a lesson in life each day that you live.
That's The Story Of Life.
Chris: The point being that we need to start from inside and work outward.
That when we love ourselves, we will not feel quite so helpless with
everything that is happening. Inner strength pushes outward and infects
others with its positivity. Love each other, that's all we need to do, and
we have "done our part". Our part is the circle and all the parts is the
circle...forever. Seth, don't be afraid, we are all here together to help :)
Love you Chris
bob_dunham
03-18-2003, 06:19 PM
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=8uBsSYS1nsITou4nkGqME8AVHVtzLJouXlN5Dx C6I2hRk2xl9jF2eVLGTMuw81on_jwYhdH-QSsd2eeTMw), "Tarzan" <tarzan@n...> wrote:
Is it meant to happen like the 911 event that apparently was allowed
to happen as an
> intensification of polarization on this planet?
___________________________
Yes apparently it is...........
___________________________
You wrote: Are we supposed to just roll over and allow this stupid
war to happen?
__________________________________
Now you are referring to it as rolling over. Take a more positive
approach and have a more firm belief in a positive outcome, and have
faith that we are being watched over by the benevolent powers that be
and trust in thier guidance. I sense that you feel frustrated and
angry and I think if you truely believe in the free will of humanity
you can allow yourself to accept a more positive set of emmotions.
___________________________________
You Wrote: Clearly the
> many millions of people marching in the world has made it
abundantly clear to anybody--people and ET beings alike--that the
people
> of the world DO NOT support war--
_____________________________________________
Maybe you are right, maybe not. We have a collective free will, and
the war is still happening soo( remember the higher self )........In
my opinion there a lot of people who do support the war (misguided as
they may be.)
______________________________________
You Wrote: Solar flares so strong that the "smart" weapons can't
function; sandstorms so strong that the military can't function
in ................via Turkey and other nations.
> Maybe we can visualize severe, out-of-season snowstorms/hailstorms
in that region to stop/slow down the war?
___________________________________________
I dont think you are on the right track here. This would make a mess
out of things. This sounds more like a fight against free will - I
know your intentions are postive - But I dont think the USA would
just give up. Probably more people would just die on the American
side.
________________________-
U wrote:> Can't millions of people visualize this kind of natural
intervention? Or are we supposed to "allow" this war to happen for
the
> over-all awakening of humanity?
________________________
Yes, "allow" is the best way of thinking of it - It goes back to free
will and as you say "the overall awakening of humanity" IMO.
_______________________________-
> Anyone who response to this post--please be sure to delete the dead
text.
__________________________________
Ok, I did my best.................peace man, I love your passion!!!!
Erik Strasser
03-18-2003, 06:39 PM
My wonderful friend Seth,
I am putting up this message, which I originally received by DP (David
Pearson aka Light Eye), because I think it addresses all of your frustrated
questions. Thank you David :) Hope you haven't tried to post this again. I
am very grateful for your caring. Love you all, Chris
ES: I have deleted the message of Light Eye, but i wanted to say to Seth that
this message, together with that of Bob Dunham are the ones you probably wanted
to recieve.
Ofcourse they boosted me as well :-).
Take care Seth, for nothing is without reason, free-will is served.
Thanks Chris, Bob and others for helping out here.
I love you,
Erik.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Hi Seth,
You asked alot of questions in your email that i delete as dead text. :-)
It will be messy, as all wars i guess. I wonder if it already started....have
you heard about the new type of pneumonia? Opps, am I breeding fear?
sorry....i'm alittle scared myself. I just learned that Canada will not be
involved in war unless the UN ok'd it. I was very happy to hear this however,
this evening there are trading issues, (using the same mentality as 'renaming
French Fries'). The boarder traffic between Canada and the USA was/is soooo
backed up today!
Lets pray for a unitied people living in harmony without boarders.
Regards,
Susan
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grandvizier2000
03-19-2003, 04:50 AM
Howdy Seth:
I myself have been praying that Saddam leaves Iraq or at least prove
that he has done everything HE AGREED TO DO in the Gulf War Cease
Fire to avoid a continuation of war.
What really saddens me is the plight of the Iraqi children. Since
the end of the Gulf War, tens of thousands of children die every
year because of UN sanctions. The sanctions are in effect because
Saddam has not destroyed the WMD. Saddam has, however, chosen to
spend his money in building elaborate palaces instead of feeding his
people.
The FREEWILL of the Iraqi people has been violated for years. If
there are mass civilian casualties, it's because Saddam has ordered
the Iraqi military to take up positions in or near hospitals and
heavily populated areas.
War could have been avoided. Unfortunatly, Saddam CHOSE not to avoid
it. The silver lining here is that when Saddam is gone, the Iraqi
children will get the food and medicine they so desperately need.
Seth, do you support liberating the Iraqi people or starving the
Iraqi children?
Iaen23
03-19-2003, 07:12 AM
In order to stop the war you all have to chant for the development of
love/energy/vibration to create sandstorms in the dessert.
Chant while standing with back straight, head up, chant in a low tone or
mentally. Chant facing the sun/stars/moon/sky.
Use any of your favorite mantras
Sandstorms will prevent either side from getting involved
The energy and vibration from the outward human energy of love will prevent the
war.
Our brothers/sisters in Iraq and in the Military and around the world will be
viewing this as a miricle from the Creator. This will help tp create a catalyst
for positive polarization of many souls.
You must be neutral in this event and allow your divine self to witness the
event.
Love & Light
> Group,
>
> Are we to allow this war to happen? Is it meant to happen like the 911 event
> that apparently was allowed to happen as an
> intensification of polarization on this planet? Are we supposed to just roll
> over and allow this stupid war to happen? Clearly the
> many millions of people marching in the world has made it abundantly clear to
> anybody--people and ET beings alike--that the people
> of the world DO NOT support war--it is the "governments" of the world that
> support war, in collusion with their banksters and
> corporations who profit enormously from war. It is the central banks,
> surrounded by their greedy corporations who are pushing
> for--and getting--their damn wars over and above the loud and clear objections
> of many millions of people world-wide.
>
> It is clear to anybody with any active, perceptive grey matter between their
> ears that the vast majority of people world-wide OPPOSE
> this BS war, in contravention to the convention of status-quo, mainstream-news
> reports of 2/3rds (according to the lastes rigged
> "polls") of the persons in the US Empire "supporting" the shrub's ultimatim to
> Saddam (who may actually be already dead).
>
> I'd really like to still somehow pull off a miracle to stop the war, but if it
> is meant to be, like the 911 event, then perhaps this
> bullshiat war must happen for the awakening of the rest of humanity--what do
you
> think? Already the mere prospect of the war has
> united humanity like nothing else ever has, but the mere prospect of a war and
> the real aftermath of a war of this scale are two
> really different things.
>
> In 72 hours from now, we may have as many as half a million dead people on our
> collective hands, half of which are innocent
> children. This does not sit well with me. Every gallon of gas that we now
buy
> comes at the cost of pints of blood of innocent
> children. This really bothers me. But WTF can I do other than do symbolic
> protests?
>
> Perhaps we can pray for divine, natural intervention, such as this:
>
> http://homepage.eircom.net/~gulufuture/news/solar_flare030318.htm
>
> Solar flares so strong that the "smart" weapons can't function; sandstorms so
> strong that the military can't function in their march
> into Bagdad; storms-of-the-centuries to sweep in and disrupt the military in
> their march into Bagdad--we can create those
> "miracles", can't we? The military is now restricted to marching into Bagdad
> through the narrow routes through Basra, et al., so
> this alone is a huge risk and a huge slow-down of the US military, who'd
prefer
> to pour into Bagdad via Turkey and other nations.
> Maybe we can visualize severe, out-of-season snowstorms/hailstorms in that
> region to stop/slow down the war?
>
> Can't millions of people visualize this kind of natural intervention? Or are
we
> supposed to "allow" this war to happen for the
> over-all awakening of humanity? Are the millions of Iraqi children
incarnating
> here and now specifically to be martyrs so that
> humanity can awaken to the reality of humanity's inhumanity against humanity?
>
> I dunno. This war really f****g bothers me and I just don't know what
effective
> thing that I can do about it other than post
> articles on the internet and pray my own prayers about it.
>
> Anyone who response to this post--please be sure to delete the dead text.
>
> ~Seth
>
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>I'd really like to still somehow pull off a miracle to stop the war, but
>if it is meant to be, like the 911 event, then perhaps this bullshiat war
>must happen for the awakening of the rest of humanity--what do you think?
Yes much of humanity has been united with the anti-war movement ... and
someplace in my readings, I saw that it only takes 10 % of the humans of
this Earth, to accomplish the shift ... 6 Billion people on Earth so 10 %
would be 600 Million ?
>Already the mere prospect of the war has united humanity like nothing else
>ever has, but the mere prospect of a war and the real aftermath of a war
>of this scale are two
>really different things.
Yes the aftermath is usually worse than war itself .. I lived through WW2
in Austria... and right after the war is when we had horrendous food
shortages ... I went to bed hungry every night for 4 years ....
At this point shrub seems to be committed ... all we can pray for is a MIRACLE
Praying here
Olga
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Vello Reeben
03-19-2003, 12:33 PM
>From: "Tarzan" <tarzan@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=umLYhHqyOHD74dkhcI_E-VxbfPDZvw0UUEQfoB6Aznxpw5GAgTgLpwo1foGbUVdA-ylIEUE)>
>Reply-To: asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=Q9epT40gKVDfDVddqjLaZb8i2EGlaVB0qhLpCC eDvum9qqYtA4rChBswqRo5I213ZbmpMcIXvYrwQQ6JSso)
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>Subject: [asc2k] War
>Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 06:35:20 -0800
>
>Group,
>....
>Perhaps we can pray for divine, natural intervention, such as this:
>
>http://homepage.eircom.net/~gulufuture/news/solar_flare030318.htm
>
>Solar flares so strong that the "smart" weapons can't function; sandstorms
>so strong that the military can't function in their march
>into Bagdad; storms-of-the-centuries to sweep in and disrupt the military
>in their march into Bagdad--we can create those
>"miracles", can't we?
.....
>~Seth
>
V.R.: Seth and others,
I copy for you from the cyclesi list the following from newsletter by Tom
Hathaway (19.03.03.19:45):
Invasion Has Begun, Time To Support Troops...03/19/03
by Mitch Battros (ECTV)
.....
As stated in my last newsletter, I reported an X-Class flare had just been
released and what I expected to happen as a result.
Here is the original report: "Due to the large sunspot regions of 306 and
314, I expect more flares to occur accompanied by a
CME. Watch for extreme weather, most likely in the way of sudden windstorms
which could be accompanied by severe rains. The
timing is not good for our troops. Sudden sandstorms could arise due to
weather invents within the next 48 hours."
Today's Associated Press headlines report 'record snowstorms hit the
mid-west'. The Red Cross was setting up a shelter for drivers stranded on
Interstate 25 north of Denver. The road has been closed.
(AP) reports Billing, Montana filling sandbags to head off severe floods.
ABC News reports raging sandstorms have just hit
Kuwait and Iraq as of last night.
Folks, I am stating the above weather storms were indeed predicted by solar
weather. (see equation).
Not only did one X-Class flare hit yesterday, it was followed quickly by a
second X-Class flare. In addition to these two events, two halo CME's
followed and believed to be partially Earth directed.
This Just In.....a new M-Class flare has just been released as of this
morning. Since this is a chain reaction, I would expect the already severe
storm activity to simply be extended another 48 hours. I
am suggesting we will see freak storms for almost one week straight.
Equation:
Sunspots => Solar Flares => Magnetic Field Shift => Shifting Ocean and Jet
Stream Currents => Extreme Weather and Human Disruption (mitch battros)
Here is the link for all the upcoming shows. It will be 'live' and free.
Space is limited, so I would encourage you to log on
early. http://www.live365.com/stations/earthchanges?site=earthchanges
.....
Vello
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Dave M.
03-19-2003, 01:41 PM
Regarding war and the current political setting: I had a dream Monday night
that really brightened
my mood of the circumstances surrounding the world stage. Here it is:
I'm standing outdoors in a carnival/circus and there are large bared cages in
front of me. Within
each of the cages are different world "leaders". One of the cages has Bush in
it, another Blair,
some have other bushmen, and another may have had Saddam in it (I don't recall
all of the
individuals). Each of these politicians were speaking their own brand of
rhetoric which was so out
of touch with reality that everyone knew it was just for show and everyone was
laughing hysterically
at their ridiculous statements. It was so funny to see them in this setting
that I woke up laughing
and filled with joy and happiness.
I realized that laughter and a sense of humor are essential ingredients to
making them disappear
because then we are no longer giving them legitimacy. They can only maintain
their power and
control if we take them seriously and fall into the trap of their illusion that
they are a credible
force. So the next time you see one of these characters (circus freaks) on TV,
laugh at their
ridiculous statements and ... poof ... they will vanish before your very eyes
never to be heard from
again!
Chris Hamilton
03-19-2003, 05:18 PM
Vello,
I appreciate your information on earthchanges, but it requires a $35
subscription fee to join, and I think asc2k subscribers should be aware of
that. Thank you for the information, however. It is appreciated . Now,
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/earthchanges/
is free and has all sorts of postings, however I suggest not getting the
posts at your email address, but going into the groups site and reading what
you want, because the messages are HUGE :) It could drive you crazy like
what Torbjorn just said :) If you sign up for earthchanges, opt for not
getting emails at your personal address. Hoping this helped just a little :)
Love you all, Chris
Jason Wharton
03-24-2003, 11:30 AM
Please consider doing such is entering the war unleashing weapons to force
an outcome suited to your own personal liking and opinion about what is good
for others. It is this kind of mindset that blinds us from being able to
communicate with others. In short, I'm suggesting adding another means of
strategic force to fix an apparent problem is just another manifestation of
the root problem we as humanity need to overcome.
Let us all accept our current circumstances in life whatever they are and
even consider that we are solely responsible for them even if they are not
to our liking. Let us spend as much or more time, energy and resources on
our effectiveness in dealing with our problems rather than on explaining,
describing and justifying them or blaming others for them. Let us set out to
accomplish our designs and create our world by inspiring others and
operating on what is possible for ourselves and humanity. When we make
requests of others give them the space to be free to chose to accept or
reject. Inspire, not require.
When we as individuals live this way our families will operate this way.
When our families operate this way our communities will operate this way.
When our communities operate this way our nations will operate this way.
When our nations operate this way there will be no war. Until we as
individuals give up that others need to be forced, or that someone else is
to blame, or that I've been wronged, there will be war after war after war.
Regards,
Jason Wharton
CPS - Computer Programming Solutions
Mesa Arizona
http://www.ibobjects.com
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-- But together we have it all --
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> In order to stop the war you all have to chant for the development of
> love/energy/vibration to create sandstorms in the dessert.
>
> Chant while standing with back straight, head up, chant in a low tone or
> mentally. Chant facing the sun/stars/moon/sky.
>
> Use any of your favorite mantras
>
> Sandstorms will prevent either side from getting involved
>
> The energy and vibration from the outward human energy of love will
prevent the
> war.
>
> Our brothers/sisters in Iraq and in the Military and around the world will
be
> viewing this as a miricle from the Creator. This will help tp create a
catalyst
> for positive polarization of many souls.
>
> You must be neutral in this event and allow your divine self to witness
the
> event.
>
> Love & Light
> > Group,
> >
> > Are we to allow this war to happen? Is it meant to happen like the 911
event
> > that apparently was allowed to happen as an
> > intensification of polarization on this planet? Are we supposed to just
roll
> > over and allow this stupid war to happen? Clearly the
> > many millions of people marching in the world has made it abundantly
clear to
> > anybody--people and ET beings alike--that the people
> > of the world DO NOT support war--it is the "governments" of the world
that
> > support war, in collusion with their banksters and
> > corporations who profit enormously from war. It is the central banks,
> > surrounded by their greedy corporations who are pushing
> > for--and getting--their damn wars over and above the loud and clear
objections
> > of many millions of people world-wide.
> >
> > It is clear to anybody with any active, perceptive grey matter between
their
> > ears that the vast majority of people world-wide OPPOSE
> > this BS war, in contravention to the convention of status-quo,
mainstream-news
> > reports of 2/3rds (according to the lastes rigged
> > "polls") of the persons in the US Empire "supporting" the shrub's
ultimatim to
> > Saddam (who may actually be already dead).
> >
> > I'd really like to still somehow pull off a miracle to stop the war, but
if it
> > is meant to be, like the 911 event, then perhaps this
> > bullshiat war must happen for the awakening of the rest of
humanity--what do you
> > think? Already the mere prospect of the war has
> > united humanity like nothing else ever has, but the mere prospect of a
war and
> > the real aftermath of a war of this scale are two
> > really different things.
> >
> > In 72 hours from now, we may have as many as half a million dead people
on our
> > collective hands, half of which are innocent
> > children. This does not sit well with me. Every gallon of gas that we
now buy
> > comes at the cost of pints of blood of innocent
> > children. This really bothers me. But WTF can I do other than do
symbolic
> > protests?
> >
> > Perhaps we can pray for divine, natural intervention, such as this:
> >
> > http://homepage.eircom.net/~gulufuture/news/solar_flare030318.htm
> >
> > Solar flares so strong that the "smart" weapons can't function;
sandstorms so
> > strong that the military can't function in their march
> > into Bagdad; storms-of-the-centuries to sweep in and disrupt the
military in
> > their march into Bagdad--we can create those
> > "miracles", can't we? The military is now restricted to marching into
Bagdad
> > through the narrow routes through Basra, et al., so
> > this alone is a huge risk and a huge slow-down of the US military, who'd
prefer
> > to pour into Bagdad via Turkey and other nations.
> > Maybe we can visualize severe, out-of-season snowstorms/hailstorms in
that
> > region to stop/slow down the war?
> >
> > Can't millions of people visualize this kind of natural intervention?
Or are we
> > supposed to "allow" this war to happen for the
> > over-all awakening of humanity? Are the millions of Iraqi children
incarnating
> > here and now specifically to be martyrs so that
> > humanity can awaken to the reality of humanity's inhumanity against
humanity?
> >
> > I dunno. This war really f****g bothers me and I just don't know what
effective
> > thing that I can do about it other than post
> > articles on the internet and pray my own prayers about it.
> >
> > Anyone who response to this post--please be sure to delete the dead
text.
> >
> > ~Seth
> >
> >
> >
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thedruid2012
03-24-2003, 12:36 PM
Hi Jason, Group,
Thank you for posting those words ... beautiful
With love and friendship
Mike
"Let us all accept our current circumstances in life whatever they
are and even consider that we are solely responsible for them even if
they are not to our liking. Let us spend as much or more time, energy
and resources on our effectiveness in dealing with our problems
rather than on explaining, describing and justifying them or blaming
others for them. Let us set out to accomplish our designs and create
our world by inspiring others and operating on what is possible for
ourselves and humanity. When we make requests of others give them the
space to be free to chose to accept or reject. Inspire, not require."
Vello Reeben
03-26-2003, 01:42 PM
Group, Chris,
some channelers and revelations say that the war started because we, people
of Earth, have created negative energy.
Is it really so? When I read papers of our Planetary Prince I saw quite
another opinion, please read
http://www.planetaryhq.com/declare.htm
It ends as:
"On a universal world, the average ratio of ascendant to non-ascendant souls
is one out of five. Already now, over two billion souls have been judged as
ascendant and by the time we reach the actual end of the timeline, that
number will have risen to over four billion. This reality speaks well to
the non-universal methodologies that were employed.
More so, it speaks to the reality that you are a magnificent people. While I
may have laid the foundations and set the parameters for your life
experiences, it is you who did the work. With you, I am well pleased".
Caligastia
V.R.: Why we, people of Earth, having in average a high ratio of ascendant
souls cannot solve problems on the level appropriate to high-ascendant
souls?
Maybe we let into Earth's ruling institutions too much influence from the
other side, from the fine-structural world, which has, of course, much
higher degree of quanization than our biological, more continuous level has?
Bringing high polarization into our life?
Maybe our Gods and Fathers still have levels:
Planetary Father,
Galactic Father,
Father of Super-Clusters of Galaxies,
Society of Fathers in Endless Universe?
In mathematical theory just the first and last (final imaginary fields and
domains, the monads for compact objects of our world) have a greater
importance, first as building blocks, last as energo-informational rulers.
Maybe the medium level is quarreling us, using a proved strategy "divide
et impera"? Maybe they (Ancient of Days?) don't want Human Beings cognize
the eternal Father's Laws?
I am convinced that in galaxies there exist natural general laws to be
followed as by coarse as by fine levels of matter and life. One such law
may be called as Plato-Ramanujan law.
Main units of time that "we have got from our Gods", units 12, 24, 60, 360
are all highly composite numbers.
Plato had already a deeper knowledge in highly composite numbers: he has
pointed that 5040 is ?an ideal number of citizen in an ideal community,
where everyone lives in peace, freedom and friendship, and all measurements,
weightings, and partitions are done in the proper way?. Today we see that
Plato?s idea is really amazing as just the 5040th part of the galactic year
gives us a standing wave length with a size of a typical galaxy.
William Lauritzen calls such numbers as Versatile Numbers, predictig a
new come-back of them:
2000 Begin to raise awareness of general populace concerning versatile
numbers.
2010 Versatile numbers taught in some textbooks alongside prime numbers.
2050 Versatile numbers taught in all elementary, middle school, and high
school textbooks.
2100 Some individuals begin to use a versatile number system.
2200 Versatile number system spreads throughout society.
2400 Society has converted to a versatile number system including all
weights and measures, and monetary system.
At the end of this mail I bring a full table of most important stable
Ramanujan-rhythms, forming a "green highway" of evolution. The standing
wavelets of such rhythms form stable elementary particles, cells in biology,
life-supporting small planets and satellites of great planets, galaxies,
huge Einasto cells in endless universe.
At the wings of the "green highway" there are many powerful but out of
informational optimum (short/living) rhythms, such as... (see my first
e-mails).
>Vello: Chris, Thank you for your advice.
>In my everyday life now I am a pensioner,72, here, in Estonia,
>Was a researcher in biophysics, Tartu University.
Chris: Hello Vello, It is always wonderful to have other countries here on
asc2k. And your experience is an asset to our forum. I looked up Estonia on
the map and found Tartu, then read a little on Estonia and found that your
University is highly respected. You must have gone thru many changes in your
research thru the years, many changes of opinions and beliefs. That would be
interesting to me to hear about from you some time, if you wanted to tell me
:)
>Vello: Still I feel that departing from my rather general theory of
>galactic rhythms, of atomic evolution, concerning also social and
> >religious rhythms, I have a moral right to express an independent
> >meaning on urgent questions of our world.
Chris: Oh, yes, I think that most of us here express our thoughts freely.
Of course, it is always, for me, a priority to care for everyone else. And,
because I care, I always try not to step on anyone else's free will, and so
I temper what I say here in respect for others. Can I say one more thing
too, please? That I have never looked at someone's age and judged them. I
have friends who are 19 and friends who are 84. It is what is inside that
counts, and your insides sound just fine to me :) I think you fit in here
just wonderfully.
>From: "Chris Hamilton" <chris.hamilton2@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=_p4piPYcPGtbCRzgdSurqj7l7dVJFtt1r3BIhc yu9L8QGMxCMx_4GRj4v4V5d-9nD7zijvbQoHKsPV4jaMyYbKJOSR8)>
>Reply-To: asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=otLCZ8sOpuhIxUpOIOJiXQ4sFyboTd-12nY5DtskuZeEmXdqZTtAif6xNIsZRyfxUekTBed4xCQlg9Si)
>To: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=otLCZ8sOpuhIxUpOIOJiXQ4sFyboTd-12nY5DtskuZeEmXdqZTtAif6xNIsZRyfxUekTBed4xCQlg9Si)>
>Subject: Re: [asc2k] War
>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 20:18:08 -0500
>
>Vello,
>
>I appreciate your information on earthchanges, but it requires a $35
>subscription fee to join, and I think asc2k subscribers should be aware of
>that. Thank you for the information, however. It is appreciated . Now,
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/earthchanges/
>
>is free and has all sorts of postings, however I suggest not getting the
>posts at your email address, but going into the groups site and reading
>what
>you want, because the messages are HUGE :) It could drive you crazy like
>what Torbjorn just said :) If you sign up for earthchanges, opt for not
>getting emails at your personal address. Hoping this helped just a little
>:)
>Love you all, Chris
>
V.R.:
The only existing 16 Ramanujanian and 31 near-Ramanujanian
(N/Nopt up to 1+1/e = 1.368) twofold unique natural galactic rhythms that
have less than 1% deviation from the approximation N=a*a
and obligatory monotonous growth of dividers
Quantum fract(sqrt(N)) N/Nopt Theoretical Natural rhythms,
numbers = 0.xxxx period bond energies
-------------------------------------------------------------
1 0.0000 1.000 205 Myr galact. year
4=2#*2 0.0000 1.000 51 Myr geol. epochs
16=2#*8 0.0000 1.333 12.8 Myr stratigr. epochs
36=3#*6(last a*a)0.0000 1.000 5.7 Myr stratigr. epochs
144=3#*24 0.0000 1.200 1.42 Myr stratigr. epochs
900=5#*30 0.0000 1.250 228 000 y
5040=7#*24 0.9930 1.000 40700 y climate, gal. size
11#*480 0.9957 1.026 185 y climate
13#*576(last a*a-1)0.99988 1.000 11.86 y Jupiter?s period
17#*36 0.99895 1.063 11.16 y Sun?s activity
17#*144 0.9979 1.000 2.79 y winds, temper.
17#*576 0.9958 1.000 255 d winds, temper.
19#*720 0.9943 1.000 10.7 d metab.,temper.(proton)
23#*2520 0.9939 1.167 3.20 h attention
23#*5760 0.9907 1.348 1.40 h sleep, digestion
29#*1440 0.99898 1.000 11.6 min physiol. heart rate
23#*45360 0.9906 1.125 10.7 min
29#*2520 0.9986 1.208 6.62 min
29#*5760 0.9980 1.143 2.90 min
29#*10080 0.9973 1.000 1.65 min geomagn., physiol.
29#*12960 0.9969 1.286 1.29 min
29#*656640 0.0084 1.143 28.95 s
29#*766080 0.9945 1.000 24.8 s geomagn., physiol.
29#*984960 0.9939 1.286 19.3 s vasomotorics
29#*1723680 0.9918 1.016 11.0 s human vasomotorics
37#*95760 0.9971 1.028 5.78 Hz human EEG theta
31#*8618400 0.9936 1.216 14.1 Hz
37#*287280 0.9915 1.000 17.3 Hz human EEG beta1
37#*383040 0.9942 1.000 23.1 Hz human EEG beta2
37#*861840 0.9913 1.125 52.0 Hz human EEG gamma
41#*136800 0.0080 1.220 338 Hz
43#* 43200 0.0018 1.071 87.3 kHz bat?s echolocator
43#*806400 0.9999917 1.333 1.63 MHz Sun?s radiation
43#*9979200 0.991 1.170 20.2 MHz
53#*10080 0.0047 1.178 50.8 MHz
53#*40320 0.0093 1.178 203 MHz Sun?s radiation
53#*43200 0.9956 1.262 217 MHz Sun?s radiation
47#*3326400 0.9956 1.349 316 MHz
47#*13305600 0.9912 1.038 1.26 GHz
47#*16632000 0.9976 1.297 1.38 GHz
53#*3628800 0.9977 1.091 18.3 GHz
59#*110880 0.9961 1.311 32.9 GHz
59#*443520 0.9922 1.311 132 GHz
61#* 4536000 0.9923 1.364 82.2 THz
61#*4989600 0.000207 1.000 0.374 eV hydrogen bond
61#*19958400 0.000415 1.000 1.50 eV ionic bond
61#*79833600 0.000830 1.000 5.98 eV covalent bond
61#*179625600 0.001242 1.478 13.6056981 eV Rydberg energy
----------------------------------------------------------------
The quantum numbers are presented in full in a form of prime factorials p#
multiplied to the rest of (small) dividers.
The periods (frequencies) are found here at Earth?s
glacial-rhythms-derived galactic constant 205130000 y, exact Rydberg
energy 13.6056981 we get at a value 202 933 389 y that may interpreted as
a mean galactic year for the interstellar hydrogen atoms. The famous rhythm
160.0104 min seen not only in our Sun but also in other far away galaxies,
Kotov et al 1997, gives us a value 203 970 000 y that may be interpreted as
the galactic constant for the matter in star?s atmospheres.
The last four unique N(61) quantum numbers suggest us a deeper and wider
understanding for the foggy up to now axioms of the quantum mechanics. The
standing wave lengths of them give us sizes of cells in biology.
For EEG alpha- and delta-waves there also exist natural Ramanujan rhythms
but they are just a little beyond of the 1%-limit of the N = a*a
approximation. The standing wave lengths of EEG waves give us sizes of
life-supporting small planets and great planet satellites.
Vello
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03-27-2003, 09:07 AM
Group, Chris,
some channelers and revelations say that the war started because we, people of
Earth, have created negative energy.
Is it really so? When I read papers of our Planetary Prince I saw quite
another opinion, please read, Vello
I read that short article and after I wrote you privately, I researched this Bob
Burgess who says he has the genetic memory of "Caligastia". Caligastia is in the
Urantia Book as the ruler of Urantia. As you may be aware, The Urantia Book was
not passed by the Council according to Ra. Hope that helps. Love you, Chris
zhing311
03-27-2003, 09:20 AM
--- In asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=d3lHLaub4zf-1P0O8gJEWanaLN4x2vq1YNiw6JLnH40J0ZW7d10xA8hug7dB6K MjQFOkO1f_Pno1Y2s), Chris <chris.hamilton2@v...> wrote:
Caligastia is in the Urantia Book as the ruler of Urantia. As you may
be aware, The Urantia Book was not passed by the Council according to
Ra. Hope that helps. Love you, Chris
_______________________________
I personally think that the above is all that needs to be said on
this subject. I agree with RA on this one.
Vello Reeben
03-27-2003, 02:05 PM
Chris,
No, no, Caligastia's opinion about the Urantia Book is worse than Ra's one.
It is right that in order to understand all the material presented in
planetaryhq one should also know (at least) The Lucifer Rebellion story as
told in the Urantia Book and as described by Caligastia. According to both
sources there exist a war in Heaven and just between these opposite forces.
It lasts already 200 000 years.
I discovered UB accidentally when it appeared in our university library
new books shelf. I got interested in it as it describes such events not
known in science yet but predicted by the theory of galactic rhythms. I even
made some reports at Estonian UB Association conferences, for instance,
about rhythms at birth times of world religions including the UB and about
critics of the Big Bang theory.
The planetaryhq materials I discovered later and on the basis of all my
knowledge decided to choose the Caligastia side.
It is right that Urantia Book keeps silence about Atlantis and so I can
understand why Ra and his people are reserved towards the UB.
Vello
>From: Chris <chris.hamilton2@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=n1w38KoEjdyBS77rJtk6f2Lg3OVqB3NUwH6xVY XQIV8C6knOlvH5oObvP_uzNR0BPlu7KnpFLYINKYhxe8DxVu_g 1g)>
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>To: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postID=hAM40Oilv7_EPUJnqWRhUHcgL28jWOt8E4f4ZH vnuajpuX3XKy7iFUl8-fDTIHF5zXQmMBRd2EHy_00)>
>Subject: Re: Re: [asc2k] War
>Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 12:07:28 -0500
>
>
>Group, Chris,
>some channelers and revelations say that the war started because we, people
>of Earth, have created negative energy.
> Is it really so? When I read papers of our Planetary Prince I saw quite
>another opinion, please read, Vello
>
>I read that short article and after I wrote you privately, I researched
>this Bob Burgess who says he has the genetic memory of "Caligastia".
>Caligastia is in the Urantia Book as the ruler of Urantia. As you may be
>aware, The Urantia Book was not passed by the Council according to Ra. Hope
>that helps. Love you, Chris
>
>
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Patrick Parker
03-27-2003, 05:47 PM
Without throwing out a bunch of
maybes, it seems there is some
principle of conflict that is
resolved by dominance. Is there
a spiritual solution to these
conflicts in our lives? If there
is, then it will need to take
higher precedence in order to
gain the dominance advantage.
That is, do our value systems
revolve around security, sensation,
and control issues which are
basically physical conflict areas
that distort our spiritual efforts?
Where are we spending our time?
What if our value systems were
prioritized differently - that our
spiritual practices worked to align
our efforts to gain some dominance
advantage. The solution lies in
the realm of alignment and the
obstructions mentioned need to be
recognized and addressed for any
spiritual solution to have a chance.
What is the biggest obstruction in
our life? Money, Sex, Control, TV?
This group could benefit from a
moderator who works to align our
efforts, not cause distraction from
some spiritual solution that may have a
chance for the greater good.
But this, just an opinion.
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Chris
03-28-2003, 06:54 AM
Vello: No, no, Caligastia's opinion about the Urantia Book is worse
than Ra's one.
Chris: The Urantia Book wasn't necessarily my main doubt about Bob
Burgess' authenticity with Caligastia. My main problem with him was
him claiming to be both Hermes and Benjamin Franklin. As an Edgar
Cayce follower, I know that these incarnations were separate
entities, not the same entity as Burgess claims he was as Caligastia.
I choose to believe Cayce's authenticity instead of Mr. Burgess. This
doesn't mean that Burgess' "Revelation Code" doesn't have some
authenticity either, but here I believe that in "breaking the code"
as he believes he did, that his original basis (the King James
version of the bible), was only a skeleton of it's original writings
(I believe the Nag Hammadi texts show more authenticity, imo). That
doesn't mean either that Bob didn't discover something significant,
but I don't know enough about his code to speak with any authority at
all. Perhaps someone else in the group has more information on this
Bob dude and his "genetically implanted memory" of Caligastia and
give you another opinion.
Vello: It is right that Urantia Book keeps silence about Atlantis and
so I can understand why Ra and his people are reserved towards the UB.
Chris: Now, here I can only say my impression of Ra as a social
memory complex. I don't think that Ra, being in 6th density would
have emotions like we 3D creatures, so I don't believe "reserved"
would be an adequate explanation here. Ra was asked only once about
the Urantia book and its answer was very brief and without further
detail from what I know-anyone who knows differently is welcome to
jump in here :)As someone had said before on this forum, the Urantia
Book is channelled from our inner planes, thus subject to
distortions, including negative slants. And that is why I believe Ra
stated Urantia was not passed by the council, but Ra never actually
tells us why the book wasn't passed.
Light Eye
03-28-2003, 10:07 AM
Dear Friends,
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in
a final sense, a theft from those who hunger & are not fed, those who are cold &
not clothed".
-- President Dwight D. Eisenhower
Read the other quotations at;
http://www.rense.com/general36/q.htm
We Love You.
David
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Lesley Schultz
03-28-2003, 01:14 PM
Dearest Friends, L/L & Peace:
Amen, Light Eye. Now can we get someone to smack our
President upside the head and show him this quote,
before we bankrupt ourselves trying to blow other
people in other countries into little bits? We can't
feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, clothe the
naked, shelter the homeless and set the prisoners free
or rehabilitate them if our state and federal
government HAS NO MONEY!!!! And let us not forget the
elderly, widows, orphans and disabled who will also
suffer want and neglect because of the
administration's fiscal irresponsibility.
The man in the Oval Office has utterly flipped out.
So, when was the next MBE? I'm already getting my
clothes packed.....
Blessings,
~lesley
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wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> "Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
> every rocket fired signifies in a final sense, a
> theft from those who hunger & are not fed, those who
> are cold & not clothed".
>
>
> -- President Dwight D. Eisenhower
> Read the other quotations at;
>
> http://www.rense.com/general36/q.htm
>
> We Love You.
>
> David
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Light Eye
03-28-2003, 01:41 PM
Dear Lesley,
Ask and you shall receive...
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You'll get an automated response, but maybe...
just maybe...
We Love You.
David
Lesley Schultz <msthoth@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=n_V-QGPJNp496qAjYQpSNyFw2sPN46KYv-VkRYUsUBadnSQSJeyxBxP5c2CJ3TIT5QqCOAJ3nQ)> wrote: Dearest Friends, L/L & Peace:
Amen, Light Eye. Now can we get someone to smack our
President upside the head and show him this quote,
before we bankrupt ourselves trying to blow other
people in other countries into little bits? We can't
feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, clothe the
naked, shelter the homeless and set the prisoners free
or rehabilitate them if our state and federal
government HAS NO MONEY!!!! And let us not forget the
elderly, widows, orphans and disabled who will also
suffer want and neglect because of the
administration's fiscal irresponsibility.
The man in the Oval Office has utterly flipped out.
So, when was the next MBE? I'm already getting my
clothes packed.....
Blessings,
~lesley
--- Light Eye
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> "Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
> every rocket fired signifies in a final sense, a
> theft from those who hunger & are not fed, those who
> are cold & not clothed".
>
>
> -- President Dwight D. Eisenhower
> Read the other quotations at;
>
> http://www.rense.com/general36/q.htm
>
> We Love You.
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03-28-2003, 02:12 PM
Dear Friends,
Opps! How dumb of me.
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Sorry.
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Vello Reeben
03-31-2003, 01:17 PM
Chris,
As for doubts about Robert Burgess' authenticity with Caligastia I can tell
you how I discovered the planetaryhq URL.
I had been interested in UB for many years before that. I had a reason
for that: the galactic rhythms and their crests I had studied and the events
described in the UB had a reasonable correspondence. For instance, a long
rhythm with a small quantum number 16, period 205130000/16=12.8 million
years, crest at 500 000 BC and a rare for the inhibited planetary
civilizations case, as described in the UB, that on Urantia (on Earth) the
usual racial divergence into 6 races had taken place, as an exception, at
once, among 19 children of one family. Such dichotomic event makes sense for
a 2^4 quantum number. Caligastia's team of 100 reached Earth just at the
same time and is characterized all the time by 2^n, 10^n organization
whereas UB is clearly a seven-magic system.
When reading UB I couldn't be satisfied with the one-sided presentation of
the Lucifer-Caligastia-Satan story and especially with the UB accusations of
Eve. And that already much before any planetaryhq information.
Still I confess that at first opening of the planetaryhq URL I had some
feeling from a traditional Christianity: get thee hence, Satan.
The first thing I discovered surprised me: there was an Estonian
translation of the papers. As the only small language, whereas the other
great languages were guaranteed with an automatic translation only.
I e-mailed the translator, Tonis Laks and we exchanged a series of
e-mails. We discovered that we both are from the same school, Tallinn
Technical University. Personally we met only some weeks ago. He has got from
R.B. his "Revelation Code" manuscript a year before publishing and has red
it. I hope to read it soon.
When now we were discussing with each other Caligastia's papers and his
personal features we both were glad to find : he tells the truth, maybe
sometimes having some "soldier's rude" but worth believing that just he and
his Advens are with Father and Son.
Vello
>From: "Chris" <chris.hamilton2@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=7LTYe2N9IV9qFBYG-p1_C2Nq_ZCT7Fa9mpztw7TsXQBCR6gEs_3kQGWWniLHENKMIDx f1t9LK3TiWT-HngSq2H4)>
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>Subject: Re: [asc2k] War
>Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:54:58 -0000
>
>Vello: No, no, Caligastia's opinion about the Urantia Book is worse
>than Ra's one.
>
>Chris: The Urantia Book wasn't necessarily my main doubt about Bob
>Burgess' authenticity with Caligastia. My main problem with him was
>him claiming to be both Hermes and Benjamin Franklin. As an Edgar
>Cayce follower, I know that these incarnations were separate
>entities, not the same entity as Burgess claims he was as Caligastia.
>I choose to believe Cayce's authenticity instead of Mr. Burgess. This
>doesn't mean that Burgess' "Revelation Code" doesn't have some
>authenticity either, but here I believe that in "breaking the code"
>as he believes he did, that his original basis (the King James
>version of the bible), was only a skeleton of it's original writings
>(I believe the Nag Hammadi texts show more authenticity, imo). That
>doesn't mean either that Bob didn't discover something significant,
>but I don't know enough about his code to speak with any authority at
>all. Perhaps someone else in the group has more information on this
>Bob dude and his "genetically implanted memory" of Caligastia and
>give you another opinion.
>
>Vello: It is right that Urantia Book keeps silence about Atlantis and
>so I can understand why Ra and his people are reserved towards the UB.
>
>Chris: Now, here I can only say my impression of Ra as a social
>memory complex. I don't think that Ra, being in 6th density would
>have emotions like we 3D creatures, so I don't believe "reserved"
>would be an adequate explanation here. Ra was asked only once about
>the Urantia book and its answer was very brief and without further
>detail from what I know-anyone who knows differently is welcome to
>jump in here :)As someone had said before on this forum, the Urantia
>Book is channelled from our inner planes, thus subject to
>distortions, including negative slants. And that is why I believe Ra
>stated Urantia was not passed by the council, but Ra never actually
>tells us why the book wasn't passed.
>
>
>
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