Swirling Energies....

[Tofu Dragon]

thanks everyone for the great posts. it's nice to see
posts again. thought something might have happened to
asc2k last weekend. it was eerily quiet. love and
light to you all!

i've noticed in the last week a "common theme" of
swirling energies and wondered if anyone had some
thoughts on that. and also what is the value of
images that come to your mind. you're not meditating
or sleeping. just during the day, sometimes when
you're thinking of something, sometimes when yer
thinking of nothing, images or thoughts will pop into
your head. are these of significance? do we
interpret them like dreams? how can i make good use
of these?

recently i had a dream that had a tornado. i don't
think i'm getting the earth change prophetic kind of
dreams that many here are getting. but the tornado
came upon us slowly (it got windier and windier until
the tornado came into view) and it was small and i did
not feel in danger (we were inside). however my
friends small dog was there and would be whirled away
and in the dream i did managed to save the dog of
which my friend was really grateful.

i also had a thought/vision that popped into my head
during the day of a person standing in a vortex and it
swirled all about them. it was perfectly quiet in the
center and did not hurt the person. there was a light
that swirled around within the vortex and the person
reached out to the light and the light came and
swirled all around the person and he smiled and felt
enlightened. and lifted off the ground by the vortex
and the light. not sure what it all means, but it was
very pleasant.

lastly, while meditating, i saw a small ball of bright
white light that was rotating and swirling and you
could see all the energy swirling around it. it felt
both within and far away at the same time and
surrounded by nothing/black. as i sat letting the
light be and observing it, it spoke to me. it said:
"love has no end. where you share your love, you
connect with me" i've still been thinking on this.
any thoughts?

thanks for listening...
love and light
- lovie


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[Lesley Schultz]

hi lovie:

wow, what lovely dreams and what a great vision during
meditation!!

when i meditate i see green light swirling around, and
it's has a complex geometric shape that pulsates and
revolves. it hasn't spoken to me so far.

i think that many people are dreaming of catastrophe
on a global scale, and that many people are also
dreaming wonderful dreams of being embraced and/or
rescued by l/l forces. there is a lot of anxiety
about war in iraq, particularly as our president says
in one moment that saddam's time is up and america is
ready to take him down, and at the next moment he's
assuring us and our european allies is that war is the
last thing on his mind and far from inevitable.
everyone knows that at least one statement is a
diplomatic cow pie, and we can smell it from every
news report we hear.

what i think is interesting is that some people are
saying that gwbjr wants to go to war to get a
hammerlock on all the oil over there, because we know
that world supplies are dwindling. others say that
he's doing it because us governmental finance is in
desperate straits and we need the cash the oil would
bring in order to keep the country from sliding into a
depression. and yet others say that we're going into
iraq and risking war with the entire arab world
because it is only the arab world that is a serious
threat to american hegemony. break that up and the
rest of them will come to heel. i admit that i don't
know, nor do i greatly care, because i am a peace
monger and care only for not killing people.

swirling energies, intentions, hopes, lies and
dreams...

~lesley




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865 york st. #3
oakland, ca 94610

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[Chris Hamilton]

lovie writes:
and also what is the value of
> images that come to your mind. you're not meditating
> or sleeping. just during the day, sometimes when
> you're thinking of something, sometimes when yer
> thinking of nothing, images or thoughts will pop into
> your head. are these of significance? do we
> interpret them like dreams? how can i make good use
> of these?

chris writes:
you close your eyes and it's like taking a snapshot or film strip of another
place, maybe another time. i believe, and strickly me, that we are getting
glimpses of other lives. somehow, with magnetic energies weakeneing, we are
seeing past the veil briefly. unfortunately, seeing one little piece of the
movie doesn't tell you the story line :) maybe meditating on the images will
get you further, but it hasn't done me much good :) these seem to be
spontaneous emotional responses that our soul remembers.
>
lovie
> recently i had a dream that had a tornado. but the tornado
> came upon us slowly (it got windier and windier until
> the tornado came into view) and it was small and i did
> not feel in danger (we were inside). however my
> friends small dog was there and would be whirled away
> and in the dream i did managed to save the dog of
> which my friend was really grateful.

chris
the tornado usually signifies some kind of change occuring around us. but
you seem unafraid, prepared, and will probably help the most helpless (dog)
get back on their feet.
>
>lovie
i also had a thought/vision that popped into my head
> during the day of a person standing in a vortex and it
> swirled all about them. it was perfectly quiet in the
> center and did not hurt the person. there was a light
> that swirled around within the vortex and the person
> reached out to the light and the light came and
> swirled all around the person and he smiled and felt
> enlightened. and lifted off the ground by the vortex
> and the light. not sure what it all means, but it was
> very pleasant.

chris
that was really special! i think i would call it "seeing someone touch
infinity". was 'he' someone you know? :) i really don't want that info, luv,
so don't answer.
>
>lovie
lastly, while meditating, i saw a small ball of bright
> white light that was rotating and swirling and you
> could see all the energy swirling around it. it felt
> both within and far away at the same time and
> surrounded by nothing/black. as i sat letting the
> light be and observing it, it spoke to me. it said:
> "love has no end. where you share your love, you
> connect with me" i've still been thinking on this.
> any thoughts?

chris
hey, i think maybe you gave yourself the answer :) really, this was
probably infinity thru your higher self. very impressive:) listen to it. it
knows.

[Ronald]

tofu dragon <inxistlasha@y...> lovie wrote"
i also had a thought/vision that popped into my head during the day of a
person standing in a vortex and it swirled all about them. it was perfectly
quiet in the center and did not hurt the person. there was a light that
swirled around within the vortex and the person reached out to the light and
the light came and swirled all around the person and he smiled and felt
enlightened. and lifted off the ground by the vortex and the light. not sure
what it all means, but it was very pleasant.

hi,
i'm new to your group and am interested in energy vortexes. naturally
occuring
ones seem fairly common and i've even photographed them at times. this
link
is one that showed up in a picture i took in 1988 at my former address. by
the way i can actually feel these when i walk through them.
http://pages.prodigy.net/rdkramarz/pinesvortex.jpg

in chapter 15 of david cowan's book "safe as houses" he wrote underground
streams of water produce a series of overlapping spirals which can be found
directly above them, on the surface, the radius of the spiral being the same
as the depth of the water.

where many underground streams converge are locations where strong vortex
action occurs which actually seems to concentrate aetheric energy. these
locations are believed responsible for "window area" into other
dimensions. some people have bodies which can accumulate a lot of that
energy around them also. put them both together and miraculous
thing can happen.

also in the book "safe as houses" it states that in france the cathedral of
chartres was a renowned site of intense earth energies and no less than
fourteen subterranean veins of water were arranged like a fan below its
choir, with black marble inlays in the side corridors to identify their
positions. santiago de compostela, the famous pilgrimage site in northern
spain has a similar fan of water veins. however reinforcements of the
foundations resulted in the drying up of the source of water and afterwards
all the miracle healings stopped.


ronald

[Barry Carter]

dear friends,

at 08:52 am 1/23/2003, ronald wrote:
>hi,
>i'm new to your group and am interested in energy vortexes. naturally
>occuring
>ones seem fairly common and i've even photographed them at times. this
>link
>is one that showed up in a picture i took in 1988 at my former address. by
>the way i can actually feel these when i walk through them.
>http://pages.prodigy.net/rdkramarz/pinesvortex.jpg

i also have a very interesting picture of a spontaneous vortex in a glass
of water at:

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/m-seeps.htm

the picture is about 2/3 down the page in a section titled "it's alive".
the story of how this vortex left the glass of water, bumped the people's
heads and morphed into a little person can be found under the picture. i
know both of these people and trust their honesty and powers of
observation. others have reported similar effects with ormus water but no
one else has a picture of the vortex.



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[thedruid2012]

hello ronald,

welcome to the group.

now there's a coincidence, i was reading david's site earlier on:

http://www.leyman.demon.co.uk/

his book on ley lines has just been released and i'm toying with the
idea of purchasing it.

what's 'safe as houses' like - is it a good read?

blessings,

mike.

"ronald wrote:
in chapter 15 of david cowan's book "safe as houses" he wrote
underground streams of water produce a series of overlapping spirals
which can be found directly above them, on the surface, the radius of
the spiral being the same as the depth of the water."

[Ronald]

thedruid2012 <no_spam@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=ugsqe-kopfochj59khzoqfaji2lfsphygh6i9xfvnasayrtzrblgfbuk 60y592tsighjianpgggnxih3)> wrote:
now there's a coincidence, i was reading david's site earlier on:
http://www.leyman.demon.co.uk/
his book on ley lines has just been released and i'm toying with the
idea of purchasing it.
what's 'safe as houses' like - is it a good read?
blessings,
mike.


hi mike,
the first part of the book is written by rodney girdlestone and concerns
electro-magnetic stress, the second part by david is about geopathic stress,
earth energies and dowsing. i thought it was informative and he gives ideas on
manipulating those energies. some of which i tried and found successful. many
sensitive people suffer adverse effects from geopathic stress and he give ideas
on possible solutions. by the way here's another vortex (actually 3) that
turned up in photo of a relative in massachusetts (i blocked him out of the
picture) some people have bodies that are charged up with more energy so i
think that supplies additional power which allows these things to show up more
in photos near them.
http://pages.prodigy.net/rdkramarz/massvortex.jpg
ronald






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