The Matrix

[Light Eye]

dear friends,

for those interested...

in 1999, the movie the matrix, was shown around the world. what many
people did not realize was that it was a metaphor for the true reality
- a matrix that is even more mysterious and subtle than anything
suggested in the movie.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/perseus/perseus_unveil.htm

we love you.

david


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[bob_dunham]

i thought cassiopauauiauia was bad peoples? whats up dude? how are
you supposed to say that any way?



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wrote:
>
> dear friends,
>
> for those interested...
>
> in 1999, the movie the matrix, was shown around the world. what
many
> people did not realize was that it was a metaphor for the true
reality
> - a matrix that is even more mysterious and subtle than anything
> suggested in the movie.
>
> http://www.cassiopaea.org/perseus/perseus_unveil.htm
>
> we love you.
>
> david
>
>
> ny versjon av yahoo! messenger
> nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med superkvalitet og dobbelt sãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚â‚ã ƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚â‚ãƒâ ƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚â‚ãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚â¥
morsom
>
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[Jeremy Weiland]

<bob_dunham@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=2sus3xqtp341zqrsrly0kqpnid9jy-mefwg7ywuer0cl_xmns7c6bj6vecbvauccwjw6foq8gzpgyodb gw)> wrote:
> i thought cassiopauauiauia was bad peoples? whats
> up dude? how are you supposed to say that any way?


heh heh. not bad people - just a source of
information that david wilcock does not endorse.

if people find it helpful, then they don't need to be
ask questions about it - they have their answer.

however, this is not the forum to be discussing their
message, david/light eye. we've gone over this enough
times to know that the "cassiopaean" message is not
congruent with ours and adds to confusion people
already have about david wilcock's message.

l/l

jeremy

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wrote:
> <bob_dunham@h...> wrote:
> > i thought cassiopauauiauia was bad peoples? whats
> > up dude? how are you supposed to say that any way?
>
>
> heh heh. not bad people - just a source of
> information that david wilcock does not endorse.
>
> if people find it helpful, then they don't need to be
> ask questions about it - they have their answer.
>

a reasonable reply, j. this is davids group, and of course cass
does not endorse asc2k.

oddly enough, if one is able to
learn with an open mind, they are not that far apart. (surely no
single source contains all knowledge)

i cut my teeth on ra, and then moved on to cass when the old
wanderers egroup disbanded, and was happy to find this group also.

many things important for us to be aware of are hidden because of
their simplicity and familiarity, and i do find cass to be an
invaluable source of knowledge.

just my $.o2 worth. ;)

[Light Eye]

jeremy,
thanks for the info. i didn't know this was "off limits" material. i must have
missed that part somewhere. now i know. i only posted it in case some are/were
interested.
we love you.
david


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[madonnafra]

david,
once again you have provided the perfect information at exactly the perfect
time. i am blessed by your diligience.
blessings,
gayle


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[ninlil2012]

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<universal_heartbeat2012@y...> wrote:
>
> jeremy,
> thanks for the info. i didn't know this was "off limits" material.
i must have missed that part somewhere. now i know. i only posted it
in case some are/were interested.
> we love you.
> david
>nothing is off limits to me... i will read anything and i think i
already have. i own one of the matrix books... i have enough faith in
myself to read anything.. no matter what it says and to decide for
myself what i believe and do not believe... i see no reason to cut
yourself off from any idea or viewpoint... the long search for the
truth leads to many places... good and bad.... and that is for
experience and growth.... many may take a wrong path but they will
learn even from that experience.......that is what i believe...
>
> prãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚â‚ ãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚â‚ムâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚â‚ãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚â¸v betaversjonen av den nye yahoo! mail
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[Chris Hamilton]

dolores said: nothing is off limits to me... i will read anything and i think i
already have. ...and to decide for myself what i believe and do not believe... i
see no reason to cut yourself off from any idea or viewpoint... the long search
for the truth leads to many places... good and bad.... and that is for
experience and growth.... many may take a wrong path but they will learn even
from that experience.......that is what i believe...
________
yes, you are right dolores, very right. freedom of speech and of choice :). but
we also need to remember that this site has a particular emphasis on
metaphysical teachings in relation to science. asc2k emphasizes the ra teachings
and recent scientific theories that david wilcock has proposed.it doesn't mean
we can't jump off the track once in a while :) life is like that. but it also
means that we are sensitive and respective of the intent of this site. we all
know there are lots of other places on the internet we can get spiritual uppers.
:) and talk about them too. just trying to say that i agree with you on the
freedom of choice, yes. but to use it in relation to a group of people and be
respective of their choice too is a magnanimus, and truly wise learning
experience for an individual. look at how far we have all come here from our
learn/teaching conversations? :)wow. chris


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[Jeremy Weiland]

> oddly enough, if one is able to learn with an open
> mind, they are not that far apart.

that's a matter of opinion. david has explained that
he finds this material distorted, and doesn't wish
that his work be associated with it.

> (surely no single source contains all knowledge)

but that's not the issue. this discussion group is
primarily for those topics concerning david's work.
he doesn't claim to have all knowledge - he would just
like this list to reflect interest and exploration in
a framework that is not antithetical to what he is
trying to do.

> i cut my teeth on ra, and then moved on to cass when
> the old wanderers egroup disbanded, and was happy to

> find this group also.

i, too, was on the wanderers_l group for a while. do
you keep in contact with any of those people still
(you can reply privately if you do).

> many things important for us to be aware of are
> hidden because of their simplicity and familiarity,
> and i do find cass to be an invaluable source of
> knowledge.

then, by all means, pursue truth wherever you find it.

the request to not discuss certain purportedly
distorted works is not an attempt to limit the studies
of any members here, nor would such an attempt be very
effective. but to talk about sources like cass. here
would serve only to confuse those who came here to
learn about david's work. if the list doesn't achieve
that goal, it is useless.

l/l

jeremy

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[Jeremy Weiland]

> nothing is off limits to me... i will read anything
> and i think i already have. i own one of the matrix
> books... i have enough faith in myself to read
> anything.. no matter what it says and to decide for

> myself what i believe and do not believe... i see no
> reason to cut yourself off from any idea or
> viewpoint... the long search for the truth leads to
> many places... good and bad.... and that is for
> experience and growth.... many may take a wrong path
> but they will learn even from that experience...
> that is what i believe...

nobody is saying that the cass. material should be off
limits to *you*. so you can stop shouting now. :-)

(btw, in netiquette, all caps = shouting)

but this list is for david's work. it's primary
purpose is to serve as a tool for people studying
ideas related to his work. if we let it stray into
areas where it does not reflect the ideas the david
promotes, then that would only serve to confuse those
whose reason for coming here was to learn about, you
guessed it, the work david is doing.

it is not a substitute for your own free thinking,
discretion, exploration, experience, and growth.
confining this list to certain topics in no way limits
you.

l/l

jeremy

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[peter henry daley]

hello jeremy,
who is this fellow cass? i must say i have been impressed
by the entity ra, but even there i would have some questions to ask.
i keep pointing out that there are areas where different sources do not
agree on some things. this reflects somewhat on either the source, or the
effectiveness of the channel. the most significant discrepancies often
relate to the time sequence of events, requiring a few zeros to make them
consistent with theosophical tradition. "distortions " seemingly occur.
i particularly noticed that ra does not endorse the urantia book, but then
i am a member of the aetherius society and completely biassed, and at the
same time have an open mind, if that is not too paradoxical?

i am peter (phdaley@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=edzmqwvr--antpaebn1b9a4adwb_upgpehs4es2enx-j6p8x266xnh907azbrianxscisapikod2aa))

url (www.users.bigpond.com/phdaley)
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> > oddly enough, if one is able to learn with an open
> > mind, they are not that far apart.
>
> that's a matter of opinion. david has explained that
> he finds this material distorted, and doesn't wish
> that his work be associated with it.
>
> > (surely no single source contains all knowledge)
>
> but that's not the issue. this discussion group is
> primarily for those topics concerning david's work.
> he doesn't claim to have all knowledge - he would just
> like this list to reflect interest and exploration in
> a framework that is not antithetical to what he is
> trying to do.
>
> > i cut my teeth on ra, and then moved on to cass when
> > the old wanderers egroup disbanded, and was happy to
>
> > find this group also.
>
> i, too, was on the wanderers_l group for a while. do
> you keep in contact with any of those people still
> (you can reply privately if you do).
>
> > many things important for us to be aware of are
> > hidden because of their simplicity and familiarity,
> > and i do find cass to be an invaluable source of
> > knowledge.
>
> then, by all means, pursue truth wherever you find it.
>
> the request to not discuss certain purportedly
> distorted works is not an attempt to limit the studies
> of any members here, nor would such an attempt be very
> effective. but to talk about sources like cass. here
> would serve only to confuse those who came here to
> learn about david's work. if the list doesn't achieve
> that goal, it is useless.
>
> l/l
>
> jeremy
>
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[Jeremy Weiland]

> hello jeremy,
> who is this fellow cass?

<sigh>

the whole point of this discussion has been that we
should *not* be discussing on this list sources that
are not relevant.

do a google search on cassiopaean material if you want
to learn more about this stuff - but it is off topic
here.

> i keep pointing out that there are areas where
> different sources do not agree on some things. this
> reflects somewhat on either the source, or the
> effectiveness of the channel.

of course - let me be quite clear here. essentially,
this is not about the effaciacy of one channel vs.
another; it is about what this list's purpose is.

it is not a general spirituality forum. i've been on
those before, wanderers-l and
www.wanderercommunity.com to name a few examples. the
attitude seems to be "let's make everybody feel warm
and fuzzy about ourselves while we make excuses about
how we can't deal with our problems because we're
aliens".

that is not asc2k. we are here for a purpose, which i
have articulated many times. i don't have a problem
straying off strict scientific and metaphysical
conversation once in a while. what i have a problem
with is when the list becomes a forum for the
discussion of some other incompatible teaching, and
then this list is horribly confusing to those who want
to learn about the core ideas of asc2k.

this is not a restriction on your free and unfettered
(god forbid) access to all the wild unfiltered
information on the web. it is a restriction on your
use of one resource that exists not merely for your
growth and use, but for anybody interested in asc2k.

> i particularly noticed that ra does not endorse
> the urantia book, but then i am a member of the
> aetherius society and completely biassed, and at the
> same time have an open mind, if that is not too
> paradoxical?

no, not paradoxical. i perfectly understand that your
beliefs don't conform with ra's ideas on every count -
and that's ok. the point is that the discussion never
turns this list into a forum for another set of
channelings/teachings that are contrary to asc2k's
central ideas.

l/l

jeremy

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