David Wilcock
06-30-2001, 02:07 PM
The data in this article fits perfectly with what we would expect from
Pasichnyk's model at www.livingcosmos.com. He suggested that sudden changes
in solar radiation levels were the cause for mass extinction events.
Everyone asks "what killed the dinosaurs" while forgetting that there are
several such events.
Never mind the fact that extinction events occur concurrently with mass
speciations. Never mind the fact that they occur in relatively equal cycles
of time. These guys found something very interesting and important,
especially in lieu of the way that we now understand cycles to be working
with the Nineveh constant and Wilcock constant. It seems that there was some
sort of sudden, system-wide change in the planetary orbits. This fits well
with what I had thought all along, and I would bet that it corresponded to a
sudden, dramatic increase in the orbital radius of all the planets. I do NOT
think it has anything to do with chaos at all.
They are so quick to discover something like this and then come up with the
relatively foolish idea that it would 'just happen' to also knock an
asteroid loose that would precisely hit the Earth and kill the dinosaurs.
If anyone can find links to more detailed information about this, pass it
on... again I'm lucky that this came out before the book was finished,
although no matter when I finish it I'm sure this type of stuff will keep
happening. I also know that Hoagland feels that this was the actual time for
the destruction of Maldek into what became the asteroid belt, and that data
point leads him to doubt Ra's authenticity since they pegged it as being
only 700,000 years ago. If he is right, this would obviously be quite a
"miss."
(Then again, Ra stated that they had great difficulty with calculating
long-term time cycles and it appears that their date for the building of the
GP is off as well. More interestingly was that Carla (as Ra) started to say
the right date (11,000 years, as verified by Cayce and subsequent scientific
research) then apologized for the bad connection and corrected it to 8,000
years. That was the ONLY time that Carla / Ra ever recanted a statement that
had already been made.)
So as always, we should use critical thinking when examining Ra's words.
They did say that they were not there to "prove" anything and that they had
a very difficult time calculating time cycles since they are three energetic
densities higher than we are.
I think the point here is not that Ra should be taken as a "bible" or
anything. The main point is that I have never seen such a continuously
rewarding view of the Cosmos as they have written it, where point after
point turns out to be accurate after the fact. Furthermore I feel that the
spiritual teachings they offer can continue to become more and more useful
to a seeker the more they are worked with. That's how Dr. Mandelker defines
the best spiritual teachings - they keep working the more you work them.
I also think, in this case, that the planetary explosion hypothesis leading
to the dinosaur extinction is all fine and good, but it doesn't explain why
previous mass extinctions occurred in roughly 50-million year cycles,
sometimes 45, sometimes 55, et cetera. Should these scientists somehow be
able to go farther back in time still, I think they'd find other examples of
these "perturbations." That, to me, is the main argument against Hoagland's
suggestion.
Peace be with you -
- David
http://www.nature.com/nsu/010628/010628-15.html
Earth Systems Processes, Global Meeting,
Edinburgh, June, 2001
Chaos killed the dinosaurs
Subtle shifts in the solar system could have caused the dinosaur-devastating
crash.
28 June 2001
TOM CLARKE
A subtle celestial wobble may have made a big impact on the dinosaurs
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A bizarre wobble 65 million years ago, perturbing the orbits of Mars, Earth
and Mercury, may have caused the demise of the dinosaurs, new models of the
Solar System suggest.
The celestial upset could have disrupted the trajectories of asteroids -
normally safely confined to asteroid belts -sending one or more careering
into the Earth. The proposed wobble coincides with the Cretaceous-Tertiary
(K-T) boundary, when an asteroid or comet is thought to have smashed into
Earth, exterminating the dinosaurs.
"The ultimate cause of the K-T impact - and the demise of the dinosaurs -
may have been a chaos-induced change in Solar System dynamics,"
astrobiologist Bruce Runnegar of the University of California in Los Angeles
told the Earth Systems Processes Global Meeting in Edinburgh, Scotland,
yesterday.
Runnegar's models suggest that the subtle shifts in orbits - which would be
too small to measure if they occurred today - emerged from the amplification
of tiny irregularities over time. "The chaotic nature of the system causes
the event," says Runnegar.
Looking at ancient ocean sediments, Runnegar and his colleagues had
previously identified evidence of a 400,000-year cycle in the Earth's
climate that corresponded closely to natural fluctuations in its orbit.
To understand how this cycle may have influenced Earth's climate during the
past 100 million years, the team constructed computer models based on
natural variations in planetary orbits, their proximity to the Sun and their
gravitational effects on one another.
In each of the models, they found that the fluctuations of the Solar
System's dynamics remained constant going back to 65 million years ago. To
their surprise, the frequency of the orbits of the inner planets then
suddenly changed.
"If the orbits of Mercury, Earth and Mars were being shaken up at this time,
maybe asteroids were being shaken up too," says Runnegard. This might
possibly send a previously benign asteroid hurtling towards Earth.
The team's prime suspects are the Hungarias asteroids, whose behaviour is
governed by Mercury. Being one of the inner planets, Mercury's orbit would
have been affected.
The researchers have put the known positions of Hungarias into their models
and are running them again to see if one asteroid gets flung to Earth. The
models can take six months to run, so the team are still waiting to see what
happens.
"Last week we went back to the Triassic," says Runnegar. "We should know
what happened at the K-T boundary by Friday."
"It's a beautiful theory," says Paul Olsen, who studies Solar System-induced
changes in Earth's climate at Columbia University in New York. "But I don't
know what to think about it."
Runnegar's model, says Olsen, may be reflecting the "nitty-gritty" of the
complex mathematics used to extrapolate so far back in time rather than what
may have actually occurred.
But by looking elsewhere for older geological evidence of fluctuations in
climate that may be due to the Solar System effects, it should be possible
to corroborate or kill the model. "There are very good tests for the
hypothesis," says Olsen.
ÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂà ÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂà ÂÃÂÃÂé Nature News Service / Macmillan Magazines Ltd 2001
Pasichnyk's model at www.livingcosmos.com. He suggested that sudden changes
in solar radiation levels were the cause for mass extinction events.
Everyone asks "what killed the dinosaurs" while forgetting that there are
several such events.
Never mind the fact that extinction events occur concurrently with mass
speciations. Never mind the fact that they occur in relatively equal cycles
of time. These guys found something very interesting and important,
especially in lieu of the way that we now understand cycles to be working
with the Nineveh constant and Wilcock constant. It seems that there was some
sort of sudden, system-wide change in the planetary orbits. This fits well
with what I had thought all along, and I would bet that it corresponded to a
sudden, dramatic increase in the orbital radius of all the planets. I do NOT
think it has anything to do with chaos at all.
They are so quick to discover something like this and then come up with the
relatively foolish idea that it would 'just happen' to also knock an
asteroid loose that would precisely hit the Earth and kill the dinosaurs.
If anyone can find links to more detailed information about this, pass it
on... again I'm lucky that this came out before the book was finished,
although no matter when I finish it I'm sure this type of stuff will keep
happening. I also know that Hoagland feels that this was the actual time for
the destruction of Maldek into what became the asteroid belt, and that data
point leads him to doubt Ra's authenticity since they pegged it as being
only 700,000 years ago. If he is right, this would obviously be quite a
"miss."
(Then again, Ra stated that they had great difficulty with calculating
long-term time cycles and it appears that their date for the building of the
GP is off as well. More interestingly was that Carla (as Ra) started to say
the right date (11,000 years, as verified by Cayce and subsequent scientific
research) then apologized for the bad connection and corrected it to 8,000
years. That was the ONLY time that Carla / Ra ever recanted a statement that
had already been made.)
So as always, we should use critical thinking when examining Ra's words.
They did say that they were not there to "prove" anything and that they had
a very difficult time calculating time cycles since they are three energetic
densities higher than we are.
I think the point here is not that Ra should be taken as a "bible" or
anything. The main point is that I have never seen such a continuously
rewarding view of the Cosmos as they have written it, where point after
point turns out to be accurate after the fact. Furthermore I feel that the
spiritual teachings they offer can continue to become more and more useful
to a seeker the more they are worked with. That's how Dr. Mandelker defines
the best spiritual teachings - they keep working the more you work them.
I also think, in this case, that the planetary explosion hypothesis leading
to the dinosaur extinction is all fine and good, but it doesn't explain why
previous mass extinctions occurred in roughly 50-million year cycles,
sometimes 45, sometimes 55, et cetera. Should these scientists somehow be
able to go farther back in time still, I think they'd find other examples of
these "perturbations." That, to me, is the main argument against Hoagland's
suggestion.
Peace be with you -
- David
http://www.nature.com/nsu/010628/010628-15.html
Earth Systems Processes, Global Meeting,
Edinburgh, June, 2001
Chaos killed the dinosaurs
Subtle shifts in the solar system could have caused the dinosaur-devastating
crash.
28 June 2001
TOM CLARKE
A subtle celestial wobble may have made a big impact on the dinosaurs
ÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂà ÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂà ÂÃÂÃÂé SPL
A bizarre wobble 65 million years ago, perturbing the orbits of Mars, Earth
and Mercury, may have caused the demise of the dinosaurs, new models of the
Solar System suggest.
The celestial upset could have disrupted the trajectories of asteroids -
normally safely confined to asteroid belts -sending one or more careering
into the Earth. The proposed wobble coincides with the Cretaceous-Tertiary
(K-T) boundary, when an asteroid or comet is thought to have smashed into
Earth, exterminating the dinosaurs.
"The ultimate cause of the K-T impact - and the demise of the dinosaurs -
may have been a chaos-induced change in Solar System dynamics,"
astrobiologist Bruce Runnegar of the University of California in Los Angeles
told the Earth Systems Processes Global Meeting in Edinburgh, Scotland,
yesterday.
Runnegar's models suggest that the subtle shifts in orbits - which would be
too small to measure if they occurred today - emerged from the amplification
of tiny irregularities over time. "The chaotic nature of the system causes
the event," says Runnegar.
Looking at ancient ocean sediments, Runnegar and his colleagues had
previously identified evidence of a 400,000-year cycle in the Earth's
climate that corresponded closely to natural fluctuations in its orbit.
To understand how this cycle may have influenced Earth's climate during the
past 100 million years, the team constructed computer models based on
natural variations in planetary orbits, their proximity to the Sun and their
gravitational effects on one another.
In each of the models, they found that the fluctuations of the Solar
System's dynamics remained constant going back to 65 million years ago. To
their surprise, the frequency of the orbits of the inner planets then
suddenly changed.
"If the orbits of Mercury, Earth and Mars were being shaken up at this time,
maybe asteroids were being shaken up too," says Runnegard. This might
possibly send a previously benign asteroid hurtling towards Earth.
The team's prime suspects are the Hungarias asteroids, whose behaviour is
governed by Mercury. Being one of the inner planets, Mercury's orbit would
have been affected.
The researchers have put the known positions of Hungarias into their models
and are running them again to see if one asteroid gets flung to Earth. The
models can take six months to run, so the team are still waiting to see what
happens.
"Last week we went back to the Triassic," says Runnegar. "We should know
what happened at the K-T boundary by Friday."
"It's a beautiful theory," says Paul Olsen, who studies Solar System-induced
changes in Earth's climate at Columbia University in New York. "But I don't
know what to think about it."
Runnegar's model, says Olsen, may be reflecting the "nitty-gritty" of the
complex mathematics used to extrapolate so far back in time rather than what
may have actually occurred.
But by looking elsewhere for older geological evidence of fluctuations in
climate that may be due to the Solar System effects, it should be possible
to corroborate or kill the model. "There are very good tests for the
hypothesis," says Olsen.
ÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂà ÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂà ÂÃÂÃÂé Nature News Service / Macmillan Magazines Ltd 2001