Hoagland confirms Wilcock / Ra / Hindu model... [Archive]

David Wilcock

11-18-2000, 02:36 PM

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>Interesting news for those who might say, "I don't know if Wilcock is significant enough to warrant taking the time to even research the convoluted mess he has on his web site..." Well, not everyone thinks it is a convoluted mess, and they certainly do not deny its significance... namely RC Hoagland.
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>I have been in contact withHoagland and he has almost finished reading my book. He did his big show on Hyperdimensional Physics, which had been promised for some time, on November 18, 2000. And lo and behold, almost right off the rip, Mike Siegel asked him a question about the number of dimensions that exist in the Universe. His answer, though not directly using my name, clearly implies that he has "assimilated" the new information and will be going a lot further with it in the future. See for yourselves. I have pasted the entire content of my notes from his appearance, complete with time stamps for when they came. (Although I didn't transcribe it, he also made specific mention directly after this of what we have been saying about time all along - that it is not a separate dimension but ratherdefines the vector of "fluid" flow between differing spatial realities.)
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Brief Sketch Notes of Hoagland on Mike Siegel, 11/18/00
(1:06:30: Hoagland specifically mentions Wilcock / Ra / Hindu model of geometric Octave of dimensions! (But he noticeably leaves out mention of harmonics – he’s holding that back for later, until he can publish something.))
MS: What about the notion of… very quickly, of the ten dimensions. Is it your view that there were 10, 11 or 12 dimensions? 
RCH: I’m thinking that there are more like eight, because the mathematicians have added two more for the sake of what they call symmetry. And if there really are only eight, the math that we have found in Cydonia and some of these ancient archeological sites, and the geometric models of the so-called Platonic Solids and all that, make elegant sense. So my bet is that there are really only eight total dimensions. 
[Of course, as anyone can see this is literally a direct statement of the Convergence data - and as the show went on, he used the word Convergence several times. Now, for the rest of my notes.]
(1:29:50: Hoagland disagrees with the idea that the sphere is the simplest shape – the tetrahedron is cited.)
(General review) 
(2:06:45: Hoagland mentions the “Convergence [of this data,] as we call it.”)
(2:09:19: There is some big planetary cataclysm. Pole shift a part of the model.)
(2:10:40: Mentions new book “Heritage of Mars.”)
(2:11:45: Father Charles Moore – again Richard mentions “convergences” between their work.)
(2:29:30: Hoagland mentions a lecture from Stan Tenen. Tetrahedral model cornerstone of classic mathematical work before Einstein, relating to HD geometry and a physics based on more than three dimensions. Looking at the models, what happened when you rotate them.
Stan’s own lectures, copy of the video. If you take some of these geometric figures and you rotate them, they do what’s called a jitterbugging motion. The geometry as it unwinds between the tetrahedron and other forms in three dimensions produces a rotation. What was astonishing was that that rotation occurs at 19.5 degrees on a sphere. 
2:35:20: Buckminster Fuller – cuboctahedron to tetrahedron, jitterbugging motion occurs at 19.5 degrees on a sphere. 
2:36:30: Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune all emitting more energy than they get from the sun. 
2:48:20: The energy excess of a planet is directly related to its angular momentum. Mass times spin. Light object spinning slowly has less angular momentum. Massive object spinning slowly has much more angular momentum. Massive object spinning fast has incredible amount of angular momentum. 
2:50:05: We are about to post an article on pulsars. They have tremendous angular momentum. New findings. (D: The article already exists, I think – this is probably just a rewrite of it, as it definitely needed work and seemed rushed.)
Siegel asks about a tornado. (D: Remind Hoagland about how straw has been seen to go through glass windowpanes and telephone poles. A Fortean anomaly? Does anyone know where this reference is?)
Steven Hawking – Energy is information.
Higher pressure of energy flowing down into 3D via rotation. Bearden. (D: Pictures of this from CSETI website should go into Chapter 07 of CIII.)
3:09:50: The radiative output of the sun during the sunspot maximum – solar constant is not constant. The more sunspots there are, the more the energy of the sun increases, by literally a tenth of a percent. Now that is a whopping amount of energy, given how much energy the sun is radiating into space. Sunspot cycle varies in terms of 19.5 degrees of latitude. 
If you propose a theory, you have to propose a test for the theory. The HDP theory can be tested in any laboratory – you can check for infrared excesses over days, weeks or months.
3:13:50: Radioactive decay in the mantle of the earth is supposed to be fueling plate activity, earthquakes, et cetera on the surface of the earth. 
3:19:15: Back from break. Discussing the Sun. There is some correlation of solar output with the same kind of rotation that we see in the planets. 
Sunspots move from higher to lower latitudes, begin at the same latitudes again at the start of each solar cycle. 
3:22:20 – This is sounding like astrology, folks – planetary orbits affecting solar output.
3:29:00 – Back from break. 
Scientific American published an article two or three months ago on HDP.
3:31:50: RCA competing with Western Union in the telegram business. They wanted to corner the overseas market, had to use radio waves. Signals were blocked on certain days. Engineer John Nelson was set up on the roof of the RCA building in Manhattan. His seminal paper published in hyper101. The periods when the radio transmissions could successfully send telegrams correlated with the sunspot cycle – but the sunspot cycle correlated with the positions of the planets. Smacked of astrology. 
Heliocentric planetary systems. Bad time to send signals was square – in astrology it is a bad day. Trine or sextile configuration was good day. 60 or 120 – multiples of tetrahedral angles. The modulation has to be tetrahedral. We now have a coherent model which predicts not only the total solar output, but also how the sun cycle should vary with the planets around the sun, correlating with exactly what we see in the solar cycle. 
Tetrahedral model – sunspots at highest level. Sunspots are cooler than surrounding areas. But when you have the most spots you have the most energy coming out of the sun. 
3:37:30: About 20 years ago, astronomer began measuring little tiny massless particles called neutrinos. They were coming from thermonuclear reactions in the center of the sun. 
We measured nuclear reactions. Equations related so much nuclear bang to how many neutrinos you could measure. Astronomers extrapolated this data back to the sun, determine temperatures, pressures, compositions. Measure the neutrinos coming out, compare that with the lab data, get very important information about the center of the sun. Measure the output of neutrinos. They set up a measurement in the home state of mine, I believe, South Dakota, about a mile and a half underground. A mile of solid rock above you. They built a 100,000 gallon tank of basically cleaning fluid – the stuff your dry cleaner uses to put your suit in tog et clean. Composed of chlorine among other things. Neutrinos interact with chlorine. Sweep the tank once a month, see how many neutrinos have gone through the tank by how it reacted with the chlorine. 10^23 neutrinos streaming through us right now as we listen to this show. A few of them would get hung up in this tank of cleaning fluid. Then extrapolate how many neutrinos coming from the Sun. 
A tiny percentage, but it is known and standard, measured in laboratory experiments.
To their chagrin and embarrassment, there were only one third as many neutrinos coming from the sun as should be from thermonuclear reaction. Japanese, Russians, Italians, measuring primary neutrinos, now find out that there are NO neutrinos coming from the Sun. Sun is bathing the earth in energy, clouds, weather, heating the earth. Where is the energy coming from? Model now accounts that the majority of the Sun’s energy coming from hyperspace. Majority coming from another dimension, degraded to heat from this dimension. Heat measures degraded information transfer between dimensions.
If nature is doing this all around us, and we build a machine with this… (Break)
3:47:00 – Back from break. 
Machine. If you can tap into hyperspace, obliviate the need for oil, energy starvation, economic inequality. Unlimited free energy coming from hyperspace on demand would radically change and completely revolutionize how we view our lives, the causes of war… Free energy could completely change all the ills of earth and save the Earth at the same time. There was a whole body of literature that I had been oblivious to. Joe Newman, Bruce DePalma. They had been working on these technologies, trying to get peer review and acceptance for decades. DePalma’s technology based on the same hyperdimensional physics we had decoded at Cydonia. 
N-Machine. Bruce died on us, his brother immortalized it in the movie Mission to Mars that we worked for ten years. The overunity factor – more energy out than goes in. Infinite Energy magazine. Huge body of evidence, real machines, real people and real inventors, can’t get funding. There are people in power who do not want you to have this technology, do not want you to know that this physics is real. They do not want you to know that there are societies on erth that have provided this information from previous societies. The deadlock is playing itself out tonight in a state called Florida for the office of President of the US.
Code, last long after I’m dead. It would have to be two numbers – 19.5, circumscribed tetrahedron in a sphere, 33, the sine of the vertices, (MS: Five seconds…) and you get a ceremony that is at 19.5 Greenwich Mean Time…
MS – (hurried) And I’ve gotta close here, because we’re out of… (end)
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