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Tony P.
12-02-2002, 07:32 AM
venus: http://alabe.com/vecycle-1.pdf
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http://ascension2000.com/convergence/9909.html
it says wilcock had a dream that he'd return for rebuilding in 2028.
well, he will be 55 years old then. here is the weird question i
have. will he live to be 55, or will he die and be reincarnated
between now and then? and to my understanding rebuilding is suppose
to be like the rebuilding of society post wwiii.
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i do see d. cannon had misinformation in her book. well, the end of
the first volume of this printed copy. it has an addition, an update
to the 1996 written volume itself. i think she confused some stuff. i
think there is misinformation. i think the only thing that can 100%
be trusted in her books is what nostradamus says in quotes cause it
can be confused different ways afterwards.
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if i had to guess who would be president next and when, from the
information i have currently tried tying together, it would be sen.
john kerry.

sol72us
12-03-2002, 12:00 AM
--- in asc2k@y..., "tony p." <doomstars@y...> wrote:
> venus: http://alabe.com/vecycle-1.pdf
> ----
> http://ascension2000.com/convergence/9909.html
> it says wilcock had a dream that he'd return for rebuilding in
> 2028.
> well, he will be 55 years old then. here is the weird question i
> have. will he live to be 55, or will he die and be reincarnated
> between now and then?

well, this seems to be the
unanswerable question today.
whatever david does, it will be
synchronous. with enthusiasm, pat

Tony P.
12-03-2002, 12:26 AM
2028 is the key part in all of this. since it is weird how it matches
information from d. cannon's nostradamus book(s). like how the anti-
christ, real person, basically rules for 27-29.5 years about, since
around 1998 i think, and it coincides with about 2028. also to
disprove the whole book 100%, would also to disprove the law of one
material since it says all is one on one of the pages.

> well, this seems to be the
> unanswerable question today.
> whatever david does, it will be
> synchronous. with enthusiasm, pat

sol72us
12-03-2002, 01:14 AM
--- in asc2k@y..., "tony p." <doomstars@y...> wrote:
> also to disprove the whole book 100%, would also to
> disprove the law of one material since it says all
> is one on one of the pages.

our beauty in utility:
ability in provability,
of incredulity;
mis-understandability,
our beautiful faculty!

Robin Ramage
12-03-2002, 04:39 AM
hi tony...

tony: it says wilcock had a dream that he'd return for rebuilding in 2028. well,
he will be 55 years old then. here is the weird question i have. will he live to
be 55, or will he die and be reincarnated between now and then? and to my
understanding rebuilding is suppose to be like the rebuilding of society post
wwiii.

i read the link you provided but there was no information about david and
rebuilding there, ill attempt to answer your question anyway though. to my
understanding after the harvest and pole shift we will not be returning to the
ruins of the 3d society we leave behind. we shall be returning to a highly
rejuvinated 4d planet earth, this will be like sculpting a new society rather
than rebuilding an old one. i dont think david or the majority of us will die
and reincarnate before this time, in my opinion we shall be harvested and those
of us who are destined for 4d earth shall return in an ascended form.

tony: i do see d. cannon had misinformation in her book. well, the end of the
first volume of this printed copy. it has an addition, an update to the 1996
written volume itself. i think she confused some stuff. i think there is
misinformation. i think the only thing that can 100% be trusted in her books is
what nostradamus says in quotes cause it can be confused different ways
afterwards.

thats the thing with nostradamus, his quatrains are fairly meaningless if taken
at face value. it is only when they are interpreted that we attatch meaning and
prophecy to them. obviously an interpretation of quatrains that were written
hundreds of years ago have the potential to be greatly distorted depending on
the author that interprets them. so when reading books about nostradamus the
information is only as reliable as the author that is interpreting his work.

tony: 2028 is the key part in all of this. since it is weird how it matches
information from d. cannon's nostradamus book(s). like how the anti-christ, real
person, basically rules for 27-29.5 years about, since around 1998 i think, and
it coincides with about 2028.

im sorry im not too great a believer in this anti-christ manifesting as a person
who will rule over us for '27-29.5 years'... i think it may be more an analogy
of a certain mind set that may be dominant among human conciousness for a while,
just like the analogy of the second coming of christ represents a change in
conciousness rather than a physical manifestation. but everyone is entitled to
believe what they want... and who knows i certainly dont have all the answers!

tony: also to disprove the whole book 100%, would also to disprove the law of
one material since it says all is one on one of the pages.

i dont think its as simple as disproving the book 100%... im sure the book does
have some truth and useful information in it, but the problem is ascertaining
which information is useful and which is not. just because the book shares the
odd principle with the law of one series, thid does not suggest that if the book
is distorted that the law of one must also be distorted to the same degree.

another point i thought id add is that i am a believer that we arent going to be
around here in the same sense that we are now after 2012... i know we shouldnt
put too much focus on dates and details, and i dont usually. but i thought i
might add my thoughts as you seem to be paying alot of focus to prophecies that
stretch to 2028 and such. again though, your entitled to believe that if you
wish.

hope i've been of some help...

robin.



















































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Maya Reek
12-03-2002, 05:59 AM
hi,
nostradamus had written his quatrains in old french. that is a mixture
of different languages. he spoke also different languages.
so i think that almost every translation is distorted....just changing
one letter can make a huge difference.
i have lived years in a little town in france, which was 45 minutes
driving from angoulãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ ã‚â‚ãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚ â‚ãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚â‚ãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚â¨me. the old name for the city angoulãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ ã‚â‚ãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚âƒãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚ â‚ãƒâƒã‚âƒãƒâ‚ã‚â‚ãƒâƒã‚â‚ãƒâ‚ã‚â¨me is
angoulmois. nostradamus has mentioned angoulmois in one of his
quatrains. so i payed a lot of attention what was going on during july
and august 1999.
for me personal, i have met in those months very, very negative/black
energy's in spirit. i was really afraid. but i have also discovered that
behind negative/black energy's, there is light. i have experienced that,
and understand. the result was, that i have helped to transform those
energy's, entities without having fear. in everything and in everybody
the base is light. negativity/black is just another side from light.
so maybe nostradamus was not speaking about an anti christ in person,
but just in energy.....that "black" energy's are released 1999, in that
period.
love and light,
maya.

Tony P.
12-03-2002, 07:43 PM
the anti-christ is a real person, even a sketch was shown of the
person in the books. and that 1999 was about how in 1999 it was
concluding the selective breeding plan i think. in the book,
the "essense" of nostradamus was channeled through a people in a deep
trance, and he was asked to help translate some of them. ironically
enough, some of the stuff said matches the ra material. d. cannon's
book conversations with nostradamus volume iii page 216. "all is one,
all is god" is what is said on that page. new printings of this book
may be off, but it was discussed under cx-89. also it briefly says
that by gaining a new awareness or expanding our consciousness, we
can have a connection with "all that is"

--- in asc2k@y..., maya reek <mayaderijk@w...> wrote:
> hi,
> nostradamus had written his quatrains in old french. that is a
mixture
> of different languages. he spoke also different languages.
> so i think that almost every translation is distorted....just
changing