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Tarzan
01-01-1997, 07:29 AM
From: Erik Strasser
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Subject: Re: [asc2k] Culture Shock /
Prophecy - Please Read !!!

I believe you have been reading too much
disinformation material! Check out some of
the info at http://www.fourwinds10.com . [~]
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Erik, et. al.,

Ironically your statement may apply to you as
well. Nothing personal, understand, please.
As far as I know, the DoveofOneness site is a
sophisicated psy-op disinformation site that
is designed to pull in New-Age-oriented
people.

Notice that most of the voluminous reports
nearly always point out the
just-around-the-corner BREAKTHOUGHS of these
"logjams of information". Well, it's been
months now and nothing's happened. Status
quo is the same. I had sub'd to the site for
several weeks a while ago to see what they
were saying, then did some research on this
site and it appears to be a disinfo campaign.

NESARA seems to be a "good" law. It is not.
We DID have a good system of real Laws in our
Republic--the problem is that we lost it, as
hinted by Benjamin Franklin's commentary in
response to a query by someone: "A
Republic--if you can keep it." The Organic
Constitution was fatally flawed in numerous
ways and some of those fatal flaws were the
cause of the downfall of the Republic; the
ultimate cause of the downfall was the lack
of eternal vigilance of the People.

In my opinion, it's too late now. We're too
far down the road to a fascist dictatorship
to turn this Titanic around. I don't see any
elections happening in 2004. I wonder if the
persons in this country will accept NO
elections without a whimper or will they rise
up in revolt? The former is far more likely
to happen.

Where is the will to fight, to revolt, to
wake up? It's been beaten out of the persons
in the country by numerous means, just like
what happened in Nazi Germany. Persons
wonder why didn't the Germans stop their
madness? Because none spoke up; none
believed the "wild" reports of Nazi
atrocities; most were in denial about the
truths of what was going on with their
power-mad "leaders" and most had held on to
their ideals of the Germans being a brave,
courageous people when, in truth, they were
cowards and afraid to let go of their
civilizational toys. Sound familiar,
Americans?

It's time to clean up one's karma and lighten
up one's being, imo. Forget the rest. And
this coming from me is itself revolutionary,
for I would be the first to fight tyranny as
a "William Wallace". In a personal reading
for me, one entity pointed out that I had
incarnated numerous times as "William
Wallaces" in the last five thousand years
right at revolutionary times in order to help
forge more perfect Unions of People. Not
this time around. I'm done with 3-D.

~Seth


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mizbabzie@...
11-19-2002, 06:19 PM
In a message dated 11/19/02 7:00:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, tarzan@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=yjbB0tGS_b5kEOo0uHWuZcGjB8e286Oezsa_rv h7jV7Ja_xnoW_uvX6J37XkjAkbxPQk7gE)
writes:


> Seth writes:

the DoveofOneness site is a
>
> sophisicated psy-op disinformation site that
> is designed to pull in New-Age-oriented
> people.

...then did some research on this>
> site and it appears to be a disinfo campaign
>
Seth...and, for what reason is it designed this way do you think?...
I liked the premise of this site and this "law". God, it would be so nice,
and such infinite justise if it were true.
And take the IRS away too, while you're at it.




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thedruid2012
11-20-2002, 03:46 AM
"As far as I know, the DoveofOneness site is a sophisicated psy-op
disinformation site that is designed to pull in New-Age-oriented
people."

Hi Seth,

I've been reading various documents on the site ... something is not
quite right ie; Dove: Alan Greenspan is a White Knight, well he's
certainly a Knight alright as Queen LizzieBirth knighted him recently
for his 'services' ... come on - you dont get to be chair of the Fed
Reserve because your a White Knight! ... and what's this stuff about
the stars being replaced by Pleiadean Ships.

My perception is that we have entered a new level of dis-info, and
waiting around for someone from Ashkar Command to come to the rescue
while we go about our daily stuff falls into that category.

The bottom line is we got ourselves into this mess and its us that
are going to get ourselves out of it, 15 years ago I was told that my
place is assured - I didn't fully understand at the time, just like I
had no knowledge of the so called Illuminati until 9-11.

This group and the vast array of knowledge that it brings with it, is
unquestionably a place to increase our understanding - it has an
intelligence of its own. Dont be afraid to 'let out' dont be afraid
to post messages, we are not here to be 'right' just as others are
not here to 'make wrong' we're here to learn. Participate, because
your learning is going to accelerate as a result.

Love you all,

Mike.

Tony P.
11-20-2002, 06:55 AM
I believe too that there is a huge problem. People out there making
New Age type comments and such, and claiming certain information to
be true. And maybe they aren't doing the misinformation on purpose.
It could be as little as a negative entity providing a person with a
biased truth, which I think may have happened with some of the stuff
in my books I have. I don't have the details of what happened, but in
McMoneagle's book The Ultimate Time Machine, it talks about the Great
Pyramid being built another way than how Ra said. But I think
something happened, or we are lacking information, cause it sounds
like it was describing how the OTHER copycat pyramids were built, and
not the originals. McMoneagle's book does have some accurate
information that matches the Ra Material though, so that's
interesting.

> I believe you have been reading too much
> disinformation material! Check out some of
> the info at http://www.fourwinds10.com . [~]

mizbabzie@...
11-20-2002, 11:31 AM
In a message dated 11/20/02 5:56:18 AM Pacific Standard Time,
doomstars@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=1FT31ymzp7cFUsFfn3OSdQibTsXYoxyj3jKSIV i9wIlRN525nrurMty3tQmWqi8jWKK3JnnhdQrISV0) writes:


> People out there making
> New Age type comments and such, and claiming certain information to
> be true.

now ,what the heck is a new age comment? We're all in the "new age" together.

Nah, I'm sort of just kidding...I think I know what you mean. There is a
tremendous about of information out there in the world being shot at all of
us constantly now it seems...and I think that probably 98% of it is bunk and
coming from "false prophets"/ negative entities/lower levels...and there are
probably plenty of those. But there are plenty of "clues", that can lead
people along now a days too. We just have to keep alert and keep weeding it
all out.


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Tarzan
11-20-2002, 02:32 PM
From: mizbabzie@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=Z8p2MHaEnNSsHe9n5ZpoMGNy_VoDDHUZ-yybTVy4qv0grKIMmHee5rzFpaktzHDg9utQzLc2qTOuxg4)
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Subject: Re: [asc2k] Disinformation

And take the IRS away too, while you're at
it.
[~]
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~
<g> I'd love to do just that! I HATED the
IRS starting when I was 12 and I had yet to
earn a dollar on payroll. Did ya know that
the IRS is a not a gummint agency, but is a
foreign corporation?

A central strategy in the PTB plans of
keeping their ill-gotten powers is to always
infiltrate into any group of persons that
could develop into an unstoppable movement
that could wind up sweeping away the ba$tard
PTBs. They are masters at infiltration into
any group of persons anywhere and have been
doing so ever since the consolidation of
their powers in the 1700's. Infiltration
into any group allows them to disrupt the
group by dissipating the energy of any
particular group.

In the case of the DoveOfOneness group, it
was either created specifically as a
disinformation psy-op group or was
infiltrated and successfully distorted. The
New Age movement is one which poses genuine
threats to the powers of the PTBs, so it is
their wish to discredit this movement as much
as possible in as many ways as possible in
order to prevent it from building up enough
momentum to overthrow the PTBs. They happily
finance distorted "channelers" through their
field agents so that a great deal of
conflicting, distorted information can create
static in the New Age movement, thus
thwarting their power to change things.

When DW is more well-known and more
influential, you can bet that our own group
will be infiltrated and possibly distorted;
'they' are surely already keeping tabs on our
group here to watch developments and could
try to take action if we get big enough and
influential enough to upset their apple cart
of illusion.

<mooning the PTBs> Take that!

~Seth


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mizbabzie@...
11-21-2002, 09:32 AM
In a message dated 11/21/02 12:04:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,
tarzan@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=hsK8M67dUf8GrF3skwj2nmu4RctvRjvHnKnHWw fkirv3sNf7KCOPDC6l1vJDoDL5T912-4wXYw) writes:


> A central strategy in the PTB

thank you Seth for your response. Now, may I ask, what is PTB?

lol..sorry you guys... I really want to learn your language here. Having a
little trouble following the posts.
thanks, Barbara


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