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David Wilcock
09-28-2002, 11:17 AM
From: "David"

Dear Friends,

Today at work I received an envelope. Inside the envelope were among other
things the following numbers;

1111 and 2012 (which combined = 9 or completion)

My 2 favourites. Now I don't ever go "looking" for these combinations. They
just ALWAYS seem to be near me. I just knew then that something good was
going to happen.

I then put a small "wager" ( 10 dollars) on something and what do you know,
I won 400 dollars!

So I went to the bank and deposited the money in the mini bank. Guess which
authorization number appeared on the receipt?

1111.

There are No Accidents, No Coincidences.

Love and Light.

David

From: "Erik Strasser"

> Gambling is greed...

> There are no exceptions in greed. To gamble is to try to gain something
that is an illusion.
> It doesnt matter if its charity or whatever.. For the entity of light
KNOWS it can control the light.
> And the light controlled by love can acomplish it all. So there is no need
to gamble. Its an STS trick.
> The adept of STO knows this. But before one reaches the state of STO be
sure the STS- forces will trick you.

DW: I see gaps in this reasoning when compared against the Law of One
teachings. I have iterated this before and it doesn't seem to have changed
your opinions, Erik, which is fine, as others may be learning from it - and
to post here is to elect by free will to engage discussion, which may
involve disagreement.

The most basic law in the universe is free will. That means that all is
acceptable in the proper time and place for each entity. It also means that
when we are here in third density, we are EXPECTED to explore through
experience. Judgment / condemnation / commandments do not exist at the level
of the Higher Self. The only "absolute" in the whole universe is the Law of
One, whose primary principle is free will... within which are THEN found
love, THEN light or wisdom.

You can do whatever you want within this structure - and the structure will
respond in kind. Though most people could never imagine that our world is
this organized, this is how we learn and grow - we analyze, accept and
understand our experiences within this very structured reality system. We
then attempt to make self-realizations by working these events over in our
minds to find the love and wisdom that is contained within them - to
penetrate the illusion of randomness in our experiences and learn that a
structure does indeed exist, and how it functions.

The only direct violations that are made to the Law of One in this process
are those experiences that infringe on others' free will. Even then, no
force will come in and stop us from doing these things, but rather we
eventually understand that karmic balance is relatively exact for any
disruptions of that primary principle. Similarly, positive thoughts and
actions amplify our opportunities to have greater positive experiences. And
thus, we can choose to learn, or not to learn, any time we want. If anyone
else tries to force us to learn something, or if we expect others to learn
for us, then we learn nothing.

In the case of playing the lottery, which may or may not have been what
David was referring to here, my distorted personality self has strong
objections to it as I basically see it as voluntary taxation for the
economically disadvantaged - yet in the sense that it provides a catalyst
for many to grasp at the false promises of finding God through materialism,
it is a very effective and necessary presence in the world. In that sense it
is perfectly sacred, as are all things.

This includes negative greetings. It's great if you have them, as you are
blessed with a quickening of your own evolutionary process. Nothing to
overcome or avoid here - it's a very basic part of life that is your most
effective teacher. And the more you evolve, the less you will have
experiences that you may have defined as 'suffering' in the past, and you
attain a freedom from grasping.

Also you know that as long as you are working the structure, the greetings
will never be any more intense than the exact amount that is required to
constantly bring you back into balance - thus you can claim your complete
freedom from guilt or hidden fear over your spiritual status once you
realize that the Law of One will constantly return you to a state where you
are again completely clear, renewed and purified in the karmic sense.

These days, the balance occurs within very short periods of time, so there's
no need for fear. If you did something you knew was wrong, rest assured that
the balance followed quickly thereafter. Life is consistently non-random in
terms of what we experience. So claim your purity - and recognize that it is
always within your free will whether you will trigger any further negative
greetings for yourself.

It is possible to make a big shift, claim that purity and simply refrain
from choosing self-serving patterns and embrace the Law of One, knowing that
you've immediately claimed your own Divinity and there is no catch-up period
required at that point. You are the light. You are the love. You are the One
Infinite Creator. There are moments where we can grasp this awareness,
generally in meditation, though it is unlikely to truly stick with us here
in third-density. We truly do not have the neurological capacity to fully
contain the awareness of the Law of One while in our current form - hence
"Understanding is not of this density."

One could make an argument that the act of playing a lottery is a desire to
win, which in turn is a desire to usurp the funds of many others. So, there
is a definite STS spin that you could put on it in that sense. However, the
flip side of the coin is that each person participates in that lottery
knowing the rules of the game, and is electing to do so through their own
free will.

Another layer of this could be where you have a smaller group of people who
elect to pay into an office pool, blessing the process and trusting the
higher forces that whomever comes up in the drawing will be the person who
could benefit the most from it. In that case you may have a situation where
there is a healthy respect for Divine Will and a desire to tithe to that
will, if no one else is profiting from the exchange. Whether or not everyone
would truly feel this way inside is certainly a valid question, which gets
into what is "winning" and what is "losing?" Both are illusion.

Sabrina's car, which I now drive, was won because she picked the right key
in a layout of keys. This was a major turning point in her own evolution and
gave her parents the first tangible "proof" of her psychic abilities. She
simply sensed which key had the greatest degree of torsion-field charges on
it with psychometry. She was also guided by her higher self to discover that
this drawing existed, and where it was, and that it was acceptable for her
to play, as she had been in poverty and definitely needed her own
transportation.

There was also no guarantee that she'd actually be sharp enough to get the
right key, but she did. Hence after receiving the guidance, she told her
parents, "I'm going to go and win a car today," then did it, then came back
and told them - and they did not believe her until it was driven into the
driveway by the auto dealership.

I also remember being in Cub Scouts and having a friend from a very
disadvantaged alcoholic family say to me, quite affirmatively, "This is my
turn to win" while we were both watching a raffle being drawn for door
prizes. The next thing you know, they called his name. I was amazed at the
time. Now if a person does get a success like this, it could lead to a
compulsion to superstitiously believe that huge lotteries are about "luck"
and thereby ignore the astronomical odds against ever winning. Most gambling
addicts believe that they have a Divine calling to "win," and thus feel it
is wise to proceed. Yet even though some may have a gambling addiction and
have trouble stopping if they really wanted to, they still are making a
choice to go and buy those tickets.

I do not believe that any addiction, no matter how strong, can truly become
something that is outside of the free will of the entity to participate in;
hence "there are no paradoxes." A gambler may have his legs blown off in
Vietnam, only to spend the rest of his life in an assisted-care facility.
Though he may not have thought that he had a choice to gamble or not, if he
physically could not procure the tickets, then he may very well reflect on
the addiction and allow it to fall away.

One definite example of angelic intervention in the lottery and / or stock
market casino was the 911 synchronicity, where you have the S&P close at
911.00 the night before the one-year anniversary, and then the New York Pick
3 was 911 on the night of the anniversary. So the higher forces are
definitely willing to work with these structures to give meaningful messages
to others.

To try to publicly humiliate and denounce someone by repeatedly saying that
"Your gambling is greed... there are no exceptions" is most definitely an
experience occuring within the Law of One structure that falls outside the
guidelines of preserving free will. Preaching to others is definitely not
the most optimal means of service. You'll notice that the recipient of this
amazing, four-level synchronicity event has not responded - and yet I am
sure he has an opinion.

I know of one example from a cocaine addict who kept seeing 11:11 on the
clock with his buddies, whereupon they would all cheer, "Lines, lines, look
at the lines!" Later on these experiences became a very powerful teacher to
him, when he realized that he was loved, supported and encouraged even in
his darkest hour.

The original synchronicity that was reported was, by all means, awesome - a
sign that we do truly live in a dream - and worthy of inclusion in any book
that one would write about one's own awakening. There is no reason I can
think of for why the higher forces wouldn't be willing to use this as a
means of giving someone a positive message, since they have the complete
tools of our density at their disposal.

Also, free will may be weighted in such a direction that a particular soul
may require this form of "magic" in their lives, with a modest financial
reward, as a turning point that allows them to really, deeply and truly
trust their own intuitive abilities. We have the ability to pursue all
experiences, and this is how we learn.

Peace be with you -

- David

Light Eye
09-28-2002, 01:55 PM
David,
Thank you so much for your kind words.
I was sitting on my sofa wondering how I was going to answer Erik's message.
This is what I came up with;
When I (or we) look in the mirror I (or we ) see not the true "me" (us), but the
being (or body) that I (we) now inhabit. This being want's to "enjoy" life. It
may want to drink a glass of wine every once in a while, eat some meat (though
I'm not really fond of meat) and do things that to others may seem at times
somewhat strange. What it really want's to do is "enjoy" itself. Deep down
however it knows the difference between "right and wrong" and would do nothing
which would upset the "balance" of things.
This is what I BELIEVE.
Call me naive, but the vast majority of us do know the difference. Unfortunately
we don't always do what's Right.
That's the mystery tooo meeee...
It's really not that hard.
I am a man of average means. I support among others the Norwegian Cancer
Society, Asthma Foundation, Society For Blindness, the list goes on and on.
The wager - it was to help handicapped children. I would have been just as happy
to LOSE as I was to win.
The money meant/means NOTHING too me.
I don't need money to be happy.
I am Loved. That's ALL I need to know.
The thing that was interesting was the 1111 and 2012 symbolism.
Nothing more, nothing less...
Love and Light.
David

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Erik Strasser
09-28-2002, 02:34 PM
ES:
We all know that some of us (not the group but us as a whole) infringe upon
others free-will. An example would be to drug people with LSD.
Those who had this experiance were not drugged by free-will, at least not all.
They were mere animal lab-rats, who now have contact with intelligent Infinity
on a non-controlled basis at random times, which is driving them nuts.! Was it
there free-will to become drugged with LSD?
Some of us choose freely to drink or to use drugs and become addicted entities.
But some are injected with drugs with the sole purpose to become slaves of
STS-forces.
And this is and will be an infringerment of those entities free-will.

Also, i didnt say that gambling is forbidden or not allowed. I said that it is
STS in nature. I even think its needed to learn!
Hence, i gamble as well sometimes. But i want to resist it as much as i can. I
am not there yet so to speak.
So when what i stated was ment for me as well. It was in no way a try to forbid
something.
Gambling is either STS or STO in nature, which one do you think it is? And dont
say both please :)
You talk about experiance. Well to gamble is to experiance STS, as well as when
one kills a fellow human being.
If you gamble YOU want to gain something. If YOU WANT something its service to
self, plain and simple.
If one is feeling good when it donates money to charity its STS in nature.
Because who did you serve to feel good?
The entities in the third world dont need your money, they need clean water and
food. Or instruments that will provide them those basic needs.
All the money we send to the third world hasnt made it any better. Miljons are
still starving. So we somehow just dont do it right!!
If i give an entity in Somalia a miljon dollars when its about to die because it
has no water, it would still die. If i gave it water it would live.
You cant deny that there are STS and STO-behaviors while we dance the third
density.
I just think that when one consioussly chooses to become a being of the light
(STO) one will try to experiance as less sts-behavior as possible.
In a way, one who wants to be STO has already experianced STS behavior and dont
need the gambling experiance anymore than it wants to kill!
The entity will intergrade it in its personality but will refrain from it. It
hasnt overcome it, it has learned that it wants the light instead of the
darkness.
And thats why (altho i agree that i overstated it way too much) gambling is
greed.
You emphazise alot about what you can gain from such an experiance and youre
right, however i would suggest to remain in poverty and be solidair with
those who dont even have the food to stay alive than too reach enlightement
through input by negatieve greetings.
You dont need ANY greeting if youre not calling. However to call for miracles
when STO orianted is not to win the lottery!
Hence, a negatieve greeting is NOT allright! The LL-research group and Carla in
particular knows what it is to be greeted by a density 5 sts entity.
These greetings can KILL you! How many entities have commited suicide because of
those "voices" ?
That is why in the bible it so well stated to not give in to demons.
(Unfortunatly the negatieve side also tells you that all higher greetings are
demons)
If youre not extemely aware and positieve, these greetings can even change
density 6 entities to STS.

If One is buisy reaching enlightement, while forgetting to be solidair with the
less-fortunite one is buisy reaching it by the STS-path. (imho only)
Dont forget that your source told us about the third-world and about places most
of us are not even aware of.
Ra even stated that its amazing one can have a place of wealth just for himself.
The money spend in such a home could have saved many.
I think this was done in order to let us see how buisy some of us are with
reaching Fourth density without the feeling of unification and solidarity
Do you think that the 150 Elders wanted to leave us before they could help those
less fortunite? (like mother Theresa).
Do you think mother Theresa gambles her 10 bucks to make it a 1000 or would she
give it to those who need it? Do you think she gambled at all?

I want to thank you for your response, however i do not see much disagreement
other than i should refrain myself to infringe others by overstating the STS
nature of gambling. I will forgive myself to break the karma.
So in that regard i want to thank you for the catalyst. But gambling remains a
greedy buisness. Oeps, i did it again. I must be stubborn :-))
I hope a little joke can ease this subject a bit. All is well and all is right,
as David says.

Love and Peace, Erik.


DW: I see gaps in this reasoning when compared against the Law of One
teachings. I have iterated this before and it doesn't seem to have changed
your opinions, Erik, which is fine, as others may be learning from it - and
to post here is to elect by free will to engage discussion, which may
involve disagreement.

The most basic law in the universe is free will. That means that all is
acceptable in the proper time and place for each entity. It also means that
when we are here in third density, we are EXPECTED to explore through
experience. Judgment / condemnation / commandments do not exist at the level
of the Higher Self. The only "absolute" in the whole universe is the Law of
One, whose primary principle is free will... within which are THEN found
love, THEN light or wisdom.

You can do whatever you want within this structure - and the structure will
respond in kind. Though most people could never imagine that our world is
this organized, this is how we learn and grow - we analyze, accept and
understand our experiences within this very structured reality system. We
then attempt to make self-realizations by working these events over in our
minds to find the love and wisdom that is contained within them - to
penetrate the illusion of randomness in our experiences and learn that a
structure does indeed exist, and how it functions.

The only direct violations that are made to the Law of One in this process
are those experiences that infringe on others' free will. Even then, no
force will come in and stop us from doing these things, but rather we
eventually understand that karmic balance is relatively exact for any
disruptions of that primary principle. Similarly, positive thoughts and
actions amplify our opportunities to have greater positive experiences. And
thus, we can choose to learn, or not to learn, any time we want. If anyone
else tries to force us to learn something, or if we expect others to learn
for us, then we learn nothing.

In the case of playing the lottery, which may or may not have been what
David was referring to here, my distorted personality self has strong
objections to it as I basically see it as voluntary taxation for the
economically disadvantaged - yet in the sense that it provides a catalyst
for many to grasp at the false promises of finding God through materialism,
it is a very effective and necessary presence in the world. In that sense it
is perfectly sacred, as are all things.

This includes negative greetings. It's great if you have them, as you are
blessed with a quickening of your own evolutionary process. Nothing to
overcome or avoid here - it's a very basic part of life that is your most
effective teacher. And the more you evolve, the less you will have
experiences that you may have defined as 'suffering' in the past, and you
attain a freedom from grasping.

Also you know that as long as you are working the structure, the greetings
will never be any more intense than the exact amount that is required to
constantly bring you back into balance - thus you can claim your complete
freedom from guilt or hidden fear over your spiritual status once you
realize that the Law of One will constantly return you to a state where you
are again completely clear, renewed and purified in the karmic sense.

These days, the balance occurs within very short periods of time, so there's
no need for fear. If you did something you knew was wrong, rest assured that
the balance followed quickly thereafter. Life is consistently non-random in
terms of what we experience. So claim your purity - and recognize that it is
always within your free will whether you will trigger any further negative
greetings for yourself.

It is possible to make a big shift, claim that purity and simply refrain
from choosing self-serving patterns and embrace the Law of One, knowing that
you've immediately claimed your own Divinity and there is no catch-up period
required at that point. You are the light. You are the love. You are the One
Infinite Creator. There are moments where we can grasp this awareness,
generally in meditation, though it is unlikely to truly stick with us here
in third-density. We truly do not have the neurological capacity to fully
contain the awareness of the Law of One while in our current form - hence
"Understanding is not of this density."

One could make an argument that the act of playing a lottery is a desire to
win, which in turn is a desire to usurp the funds of many others. So, there
is a definite STS spin that you could put on it in that sense. However, the
flip side of the coin is that each person participates in that lottery
knowing the rules of the game, and is electing to do so through their own
free will.

Another layer of this could be where you have a smaller group of people who
elect to pay into an office pool, blessing the process and trusting the
higher forces that whomever comes up in the drawing will be the person who
could benefit the most from it. In that case you may have a situation where
there is a healthy respect for Divine Will and a desire to tithe to that
will, if no one else is profiting from the exchange. Whether or not everyone
would truly feel this way inside is certainly a valid question, which gets
into what is "winning" and what is "losing?" Both are illusion.

Sabrina's car, which I now drive, was won because she picked the right key
in a layout of keys. This was a major turning point in her own evolution and
gave her parents the first tangible "proof" of her psychic abilities. She
simply sensed which key had the greatest degree of torsion-field charges on
it with psychometry. She was also guided by her higher self to discover that
this drawing existed, and where it was, and that it was acceptable for her
to play, as she had been in poverty and definitely needed her own
transportation.

There was also no guarantee that she'd actually be sharp enough to get the
right key, but she did. Hence after receiving the guidance, she told her
parents, "I'm going to go and win a car today," then did it, then came back
and told them - and they did not believe her until it was driven into the
driveway by the auto dealership.

I also remember being in Cub Scouts and having a friend from a very
disadvantaged alcoholic family say to me, quite affirmatively, "This is my
turn to win" while we were both watching a raffle being drawn for door
prizes. The next thing you know, they called his name. I was amazed at the
time. Now if a person does get a success like this, it could lead to a
compulsion to superstitiously believe that huge lotteries are about "luck"
and thereby ignore the astronomical odds against ever winning. Most gambling
addicts believe that they have a Divine calling to "win," and thus feel it
is wise to proceed. Yet even though some may have a gambling addiction and
have trouble stopping if they really wanted to, they still are making a
choice to go and buy those tickets.

I do not believe that any addiction, no matter how strong, can truly become
something that is outside of the free will of the entity to participate in;
hence "there are no paradoxes." A gambler may have his legs blown off in
Vietnam, only to spend the rest of his life in an assisted-care facility.
Though he may not have thought that he had a choice to gamble or not, if he
physically could not procure the tickets, then he may very well reflect on
the addiction and allow it to fall away.

One definite example of angelic intervention in the lottery and / or stock
market casino was the 911 synchronicity, where you have the S&P close at
911.00 the night before the one-year anniversary, and then the New York Pick
3 was 911 on the night of the anniversary. So the higher forces are
definitely willing to work with these structures to give meaningful messages
to others.

To try to publicly humiliate and denounce someone by repeatedly saying that
"Your gambling is greed... there are no exceptions" is most definitely an
experience occuring within the Law of One structure that falls outside the
guidelines of preserving free will. Preaching to others is definitely not
the most optimal means of service. You'll notice that the recipient of this
amazing, four-level synchronicity event has not responded - and yet I am
sure he has an opinion.

I know of one example from a cocaine addict who kept seeing 11:11 on the
clock with his buddies, whereupon they would all cheer, "Lines, lines, look
at the lines!" Later on these experiences became a very powerful teacher to
him, when he realized that he was loved, supported and encouraged even in
his darkest hour.

The original synchronicity that was reported was, by all means, awesome - a
sign that we do truly live in a dream - and worthy of inclusion in any book
that one would write about one's own awakening. There is no reason I can
think of for why the higher forces wouldn't be willing to use this as a
means of giving someone a positive message, since they have the complete
tools of our density at their disposal.

Also, free will may be weighted in such a direction that a particular soul
may require this form of "magic" in their lives, with a modest financial
reward, as a turning point that allows them to really, deeply and truly
trust their own intuitive abilities. We have the ability to pursue all
experiences, and this is how we learn.

Peace be with you -

- David



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David Wilcock
09-28-2002, 04:32 PM
From: "Erik Strasser"

DW: First... PLEASE delete your unused text.

> ES:
> We all know that some of us (not the group but us as a whole) infringe
upon others free-will. An example would be to drug people with LSD.
> Those who had this experiance were not drugged by free-will, at least not
all.

DW: The higher beings protect us from experiences that would violate our
free will. You can choose not to believe that if you want to. However, if
you do not believe it, then why haven't negative ETs already invaded? It can
be very difficult to understand why someone would receive a certain
greeting, but rest assured that they are not random - nor do they violate
free will.

> Some of us choose freely to drink or to use drugs and become addicted
entities. But some are injected with drugs with the sole purpose to become
slaves of STS-forces.
> And this is and will be an infringerment of those entities free-will.

DW: Not necessarily at all. Those on the negative path may elect to be
enslaved so as to hone that "blunt edge of hatred" to help them further
polarize negatively.

> Also, i didnt say that gambling is forbidden or not allowed. I said that
it is STS in nature. I even think its needed to learn!
> Hence, i gamble as well sometimes. But i want to resist it as much as i
can. I am not there yet so to speak.

DW: So you project self-condemnation onto others...

> So when what i stated was ment for me as well. It was in no way a try to
forbid something.

DW: That may be your own intent, but it appears to others as harshly
judgmental. I think it would be very wise to specify what you are learning
for yourself instead of projecting it as others' issues - which innately
makes you sound like you are speaking from a pedestal.

> Gambling is either STS or STO in nature, which one do you think it is? And
dont say both please :)

DW: Depends on the situation. David's reply shows that the proceeds were to
be given to charity.

> You talk about experiance. Well to gamble is to experiance STS, as well as
when one kills a fellow human being.

DW: Killing is not necessarily STS either - everything is a question of
perspective. If one guard was responsible for a room full of people that he
was going to brutalize and kill, and you could kill that guard and free the
people otherwise they would all be tortured and die, then you may very well
be serving others by doing so. As Ra would say, you would need to do it
without emotional attachment or anger, but simply recognizing that entity's
folly and sending them on to the next level of the game.

> If you gamble YOU want to gain something. If YOU WANT something its
service to self, plain and simple.

DW: I want to help others...

> If one is feeling good when it donates money to charity its STS in nature.
Because who did you serve to feel good?

DW: I think you need to love yourself more than you do, my friend. Now
you're saying that to feel good is to be negative.

> The entities in the third world dont need your money, they need clean
water and food. Or instruments that will provide them those basic needs.
> All the money we send to the third world hasnt made it any better. Miljons
are still starving. So we somehow just dont do it right!!

DW: They are where they are for a reason. Many who have a shot at a more
civilized society will go negative, and end up reincarnating in more
impoverished circumstances.

> If i give an entity in Somalia a miljon dollars when its about to die
because it has no water, it would still die. If i gave it water it would
live.

DW: The relative value of giving a million dollars, in service, is greater
than the glass of water. The survivors of that person would be able to help
many others with that money.

> You cant deny that there are STS and STO-behaviors while we dance the
third density.

DW: No one here is.

> I just think that when one consioussly chooses to become a being of the
light (STO) one will try to experiance as less sts-behavior as possible.

DW: Not by overcoming it. By experiencing it and recognizing that there are
rather automatic consequences, so that over time the choice is made not to
do it - such as preaching to others, saying "My way is the only right way,"
et cetera.

> In a way, one who wants to be STO has already experianced STS behavior and
dont need the gambling experiance anymore than it wants to kill!

DW: Again... you are thinking in very black and white terms. All or nothing.
Feast or famine. Pure love or raging evil. This is not the way it works.

> The entity will intergrade it in its personality but will refrain from it.
It hasnt overcome it, it has learned that it wants the light instead of the
darkness.

DW: This is true.

> And thats why (altho i agree that i overstated it way too much) gambling
is greed.

DW: No... there are plenty of other words here to show you that it is not
black and white... you may benefit from being willing to be a student
instead of a preacher...

> You emphazise alot about what you can gain from such an experiance and
youre right, however i would suggest to remain in poverty and be solidair
with
> those who dont even have the food to stay alive than too reach
enlightement through input by negatieve greetings.
> You dont need ANY greeting if youre not calling. However to call for
miracles when STO orianted is not to win the lottery!

DW: I don't think you really read what I wrote, as much as you are intent on
restating your own beliefs - which again are not necessarily bad, just not
in harmony with the Law of One.

> Hence, a negatieve greeting is NOT allright!

DW: Study up... there are clearly gaps in your knowledge of this material.

The LL-research group and Carla in particular knows what it is to be greeted
by a density 5 sts entity.
> These greetings can KILL you!

DW: Yes... and Carla says to bless the greetings. I'm not particularly
attached to the body, as it is just another vehicle for soul experience. If
it passes, then it passes.

How many entities have commited suicide because of those "voices" ?

DW: They will realize their folly after passing - and again, this is not apt
to happen unless invited by free will.

> That is why in the bible it so well stated to not give in to demons.
(Unfortunatly the negatieve side also tells you that all higher greetings
are demons)
> If youre not extemely aware and positieve, these greetings can even change
density 6 entities to STS.

DW: That too, though inconvenient, is not the end of the soul, just another
form of experience.

> If One is buisy reaching enlightement, while forgetting to be solidair
with the less-fortunite one is buisy reaching it by the STS-path. (imho
only)

DW: Finally you're willing to admit an opinion instead of make
proclamations.

> Dont forget that your source told us about the third-world and about
places most of us are not even aware of.
> Ra even stated that its amazing one can have a place of wealth just for
himself. The money spend in such a home could have saved many.

DW: Where are you sending your money, then?

> I think this was done in order to let us see how buisy some of us are with
reaching Fourth density without the feeling of unification and solidarity
> Do you think that the 150 Elders wanted to leave us before they could help
those less fortunite? (like mother Theresa).

DW: This is not necessarily a product of wisdom and discernment, but of
burgeoning 4D awareness, which tends towards martyrdom.

> Do you think mother Theresa gambles her 10 bucks to make it a 1000 or
would she give it to those who need it? Do you think she gambled at all?

DW: David gave his 10 bucks to a charity, and happened to win. Theresa in
the same situation would have turned around and given the 400 bucks back
into the charity.

> I want to thank you for your response, however i do not see much
disagreement other than i should refrain myself to infringe others by
overstating the STS nature of gambling. I will forgive myself to break the
karma.

DW: Glad you can forgive yourself - also good to have some accountability
for your judgmental actions. You're part of the way there but I don't really
get the sense that you're sorry.

> So in that regard i want to thank you for the catalyst. But gambling
remains a greedy buisness. Oeps, i did it again. I must be stubborn :-))

DW: It is your choice to act like this in front of 300 people.

> I hope a little joke can ease this subject a bit. All is well and all is
right, as David says.

DW: Right... just don't take that for granted, OK?

Peace be with you -

- David

> Love and Peace, Erik.

tobbe jansson
09-28-2002, 05:30 PM
Gamble....search for yore self within the reality of
youre spotted pic of your self...
Yuo dont like the pic of yourself so trying to "bye" a
better looking one!

TorbjÃÃÂà ‚‚ƒÃ ‚¶rn.


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sol72us
09-29-2002, 12:58 AM
--- In asc2k@y..., tobbe jansson <tobbelobbe@y...> wrote:
> Gamble....search for yore self within the reality of
> youre spotted pic of your self...
> Yuo dont like the pic of yourself so trying to "bye" a
> better looking one!
>
> TorbjÃÃÂà ‚‚ƒÃ ‚¶rn.

I was intrigued by commodities trading
for many years. I learned that traders
benefit the markets by creating liquidity
that allowed farmers to get in and out
which also has the effect of dampening
the volatility of the market swings,
stabilizing prices.

I also learned that some of the best
traders are good gamblers. They take
a systematic approach and when the
odds are in their favor, they bet more.
Everyone loses, but the trick is to
lose less than you win...like a game.

So please realize there is a connection
between the food we eat, and gambling.
Gambling is a label with stigma...
it may help to consider it an activity
based on probablility...and we are
surrounded by these activities though
the interchange may not be money.

Interconnectedly - with spots, Pat

tobbe jansson
09-29-2002, 03:39 AM
Yes..trading is the way to get food to the foodstores
for the people..a good thing!
And trading is for those involved, a game, if you are
a good player you win alot of money and if you are a
bad player you dont get any money.
For the gamblers/players within the gambling game its
wery hard to se the happines and light outside this
"moneyprison".. though the fruit of this gambling game
can be a good thing for many people outside of it.

TorbjÃÃÂà ‚‚ƒÃ ‚¶rn.


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09-29-2002, 01:32 PM
--- In asc2k@y..., "David Wilcock" <david@a...> wrote:
> Life is consistently non-random in terms of what we
> experience. So claim your purity - and recognize
> that it is always within your free will...

Thanks for this interesting idea of non-randomness,
that a process can appear to have normal probability
distributions and that high consciousness can cut
through the fuzz, by way of synchronicity. The
exercise then is to suppress distortions, such as
greed or doubt and sustain a high level of awareness
that harmonizes one to the environment. This could
involve quieting the popcorn behavior of the rational
mind that says otherwise. Common examples are
oracles, such as I-Ching or Tarot, that may appear
random but work off this same mechanism...
In peace, Pat