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[Tony P.]

Reading stuff like Joseph McMoneagle's book "The Ultimate Time
Machine" and D. Cannon's Nostradamus books concerning the future, one
thing I think about is how there must be someway to cause the future
to be now. To have things happen before waiting many, many years for
them to happen. The present of now and the present of then may seem
to have many years apart, but the same material, the same
consciousness, should exist as the same thing in either time.

And also I do believe one person can change the world, without doing
any physical action by getting up and doing things. But rather by
thinking things you want to happen, but not just thinking them. You
have to have an understanding of the things to happen, which is a
next-to-impossible feeling to get.

Aside from the stuff I talked about above, I've noticed I'm kind of
different from everyone else. Like I don't fit in with everyone
really. I can understand, well, rather know or have knowledge of what
people think. But for the most things, I just can't get into the same
kind of living everyone else does. This is a bit hard to explain. By
the way, this point of view is coming from a 19 year old male. Like
television commercials, some of them just seem like nonsense. And for
some reason, I don't listen to music at all. Sure, music affects me,
but I don't have anything to play me music that I listen to. It just
doesn't seem of interest to me. I don't know if high I.Q. has
anything to my being different or not, or at least I think it's high
despite being able to get tested. I.Q. is genetic I think anyways, so
big deal there. I don't know if anyone else has thought this before
reading stuff related to this, but I think at one time I was thinking
knowledge can be self-contained or gotten out of nowhere without
learning it. I'm also not that social, well, actually, the only time
I seem to really socialize is if someone else starts the conversation
or if there is a like interest between other persons of myself,
subjects or topics of interest.

[Colin]

> Reading stuff like Joseph McMoneagle's book "The Ultimate Time
> Machine" and D. Cannon's Nostradamus books concerning the future,
one thing I think about is how there must be someway to cause the
future to be now. To have things happen before waiting many, many
years for them to happen.

COLIN: Hey Tony,
First question would be why? What's the rush? I think I undestand the
curiousity, but not the motive. Time is a difficult concept to crasp,
especially when Ra alludes to the fact that they don't exist in time,
which may be what your talking about. We humans in 3D aren't granted
that gift, as the veil of forgetting strips us naked of our powers
and abilities, especially wanderers, and we're forced to live with
the catalyts and karmic cycles of life.

> And also I do believe one person can change the world, without
doing any physical action by getting up and doing things. But rather
by thinking things you want to happen, but not just thinking them.
You have to have an understanding of the things to happen, which is a
> next-to-impossible feeling to get.

COLIN: I too believe that 1 person can change the world. But what
pleasure or justification is there when you can't go out and be a
part and witness those changes? Sounds too close to a tyrannt or god-
like dictator waving his wand and controlling the world. (FYI, these
are just my random thoughts, just let the right words resonate)

> Aside from the stuff I talked about above, I've noticed I'm kind of
> different from everyone else. Like I don't fit in with everyone
> really.


COLIN: I love the fact that you're different, it's refreshing, and
sometimes an excellent catalyst for many of us. If you weren't
different you probably wouldn't be here. Keep living the life you
want to live! Push yourself to be the best person you can, strive for
knowledge. No matter what, we'll always accept and love you.

God Bless,
Colin

[Tony P.]

You know the saying, "We are God's children"? Well, what I asked once
to myself, I think, is what happens when God's children grow up?

Now, I have another question. If we are here to learn and experience,
then what happens after we have learned and experienced if not just
for going back to the original one form? If all recombine again after
time has ended in this experiment, what will the experiment do?
People do experiments to learn, and hopefully what they learn will
lead to something new. But the biggest mystery of all, what could be
so incrediably new and wonderful after this experiment is over? Not a
new universe to learn from cause that's been done before, or
currently now.

Is there something outside the oneness or the one after the one is
put back together?

[sol72us]

--- In asc2k@y..., "Tony P." <doomstars@y...> wrote:
> Is there something outside the oneness or the one after the one is
> put back together?

Where is the border between outside and inside,
or could all oneness be borderless?

[Tony P.]

I'm just wondering what happens when the experiment is over with
basically. After time was come to a hault for the age of the universe.

> Where is the border between outside and inside,
> or could all oneness be borderless?

[Chris Hamilton]

That is what is so totally awesome about the universe, Tony. It never haults,
it's wonderfully infinite and circles back to begin all over again. And we are
all part of that infiniteless breathing in and breathing out, so you and I never
end either, just evolve and renew forever and ever. Take care Chris
I'm just wondering what happens when the experiment is over with
basically. After time was come to a hault for the age of the universe.




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[bjorn_nitmou]

--- In asc2k@y..., "Tony P." <doomstars@y...> wrote:
> I'm just wondering what happens when the experiment is over with
> basically. After time was come to a hault for the age of the
universe.

I think even in 7 d they wonder the answer to that question

[Tony P.]

First of all, was was a typo for the word has. And no, I am not
talking about 7D. I am talking about when all is one, for everything
and all. Cause right now we are in 3D, and eventually we will hit 7D.
And then a NEW 1D after that in a ways. And that will go on to 2D,
then eventually 7D, then a new 1D. That's the way I read it in the Ra
Material.

--- In asc2k@y..., "bjorn_nitmou" <bjorn_nitmou@y...> wrote:
> --- In asc2k@y..., "Tony P." <doomstars@y...> wrote:
> > I'm just wondering what happens when the experiment is over with
> > basically. After time was come to a hault for the age of the
> universe.
>
> I think even in 7 d they wonder the answer to that question

[sol72us]

--- In asc2k@y..., "Tony P." <doomstars@y...> wrote:
> I am talking about when all is one, for everything
> and all. Cause right now we are in 3D, and eventually
> we will hit 7D. And then a NEW 1D after that in a
> ways. And that will go on to 2D, then eventually 7D,
> then a new 1D. That's the way I read it in the Ra
> Material.

When "all is one", this seems boring,
that is why we are here - amusement.
And that is why the principles of art
are principles of life. Repetition
can become boring also, maybe that is
why RA encourages becoming comfortable
with change...kind of reminds me of the
phenomenon of the vertical pencil, that
it is easier to keep it vertical by
moving the base around as opposed to
balancing the pencil static: stability
from instability; emotion from motion.

[peter henry daley]

There is nothing outside the Oneness.
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[Tony P.]

I think when all is one, the entity known as the one will participate
is something new. Cause all is heading back to one already in a
sense. If there was nothing after the end of time, it would be the
situation of going to school then doing nothing afterwards.

> When "all is one", this seems boring,
> that is why we are here - amusement.
> And that is why the principles of art
> are principles of life. Repetition
> can become boring also, maybe that is
> why RA encourages becoming comfortable
> with change...kind of reminds me of the
> phenomenon of the vertical pencil, that
> it is easier to keep it vertical by
> moving the base around as opposed to
> balancing the pencil static: stability
> from instability; emotion from motion.

[tobbe jansson]

You can also read the same in the mastodont production
of the great author Martinus ThomsenÃÃà‚‚‚ÃÂÂà ‚‚´s "the third
testament".

He says life is an ever expanding spiral and when
eventually the soul has reached "the top" (my words
here,it was many years sins i read the books)the soul
is attracted to the "crystal plane" where it "rests"
and "recapitulate" all that the soul has done and
experienced during ità‚Âà ƒÂƒÃ‚Â‚ÃƒÂ‚Ã‚Â´s trip through all density
planes.
After that, the soul is starting to be "drawn" towards
a new "spiral trip" through the density planes, and
the circus starts again!

TorbjÃÃÂà ‚‚ƒÃ ‚¶rn.



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[chesheyer]

--- In asc2k@y..., "Chris Hamilton" <chris.hamilton2@v...> wrote:
> It never haults, it's wonderfully infinite and circles back to begin all
over again. And we are all part of that infiniteless breathing in and
breathing out, so you and I never end either, just evolve and renew
forever and ever. Take care Chris

> chesheyer says:
If we look at life as a symbol we could look at the mobius strip (Like the
recycling symbol) The twist represent change, yet there is also return.
So we go through an ever-changing pattern. We are both progressing
and recapulating earlier forms in new ways.
Keep Feelin' Fascination,
~chesheyer~



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[Tony E. P.]

I wonder how many other people have thought what crossed my mind.
David Wilcock labling his latest article and such with the word Hero.
By the way, I'm not implying anything negative here.

My own opinion. Real life situations cannot be described out our
current math. It's impossible. What can go one way, doesn't
necessarily work another way, in real life problems. Our numbering,
1,2,3,4,5 and so on, doesn't fit right. We need to use something
else, whatever that may be.