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><font face="arial" size="2"> absolutely agree with you... although if you look at music from a vibrational point of view, there are vibrations that tend to highten rather than lower vibration, but there's a time for everything, and i can completely understand that some people may need an opportunity to integrate that in.</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> if the soul of tool is in it's lyrics, then they really must have changed. that first claymation video they came out with way back in the mid nineties was pretty gruesome. i completely support an artist in his quest for self- and collective-understanding through artistic expression, but i thought that video, and a lot of their music, was kind of sick, and certainly wasn't where i was at the time (i thought the song was kinda catchy, though).</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> anyway, it's not a criticism of tool, but i remember when talking with david during my intake interview, he specifically brought up the tool example he shared with the list, so i always thought it funny that people on the list kept bringing it up. i'll be interested to hear if your opinion changes, david. ;-)</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> alright, later,</font>
><font face="arial" size="2"> jeremy</font>
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style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: aaron elder (karnisov@hotmail.com)
style="font: 10pt arial">to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
style="font: 10pt arial">sent: friday, may 25, 2001 3:59 pm
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: re: [asc2k] tool: lateralus
>
<tt>i recommend the schism video also if u have the time to download ~75mb, u
can find a link to it from toolshed.down.net . aenema had quite a few
ascension themes in it too, like in the songs 46 & 2, and aenema. i think
maynard used alot of the same vocal approach for lateralus as he did for a
perfect circle, what do u think brian? jeremy, as far as i see it the soul
of tool is in its lyrics and always has been, u can't really judge it just
by its abrasive sound. sure, i guess david is right tool did used to sound
rather angry in its beginning, but as i see it anger can be a catalyst for
change, some have used it to break out of constrictive thought control
systems and begin our first steps to open mindedness, i know i did.
aaron
>from: "brian v. cox" <lerxst@metronet.com>
>reply-to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
>to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
>subject: re: [asc2k] tool: lateralus
>date: fri, 25 may 2001 09:58:05 -0500 (cdt)
>
>definitely progressive. i'm not sure, but i think it's been at least 3
>or 4 years since tool's last album was recorded. they've definitely
>improved and have created some challenging, creative music on this new
>album. i've never been much of a tool fan (but i never disliked them),
>but i just felt i had to buy this album after the guy beside me here
>at work bought it the day it came out (a week and a half ago). he showed
>me the artwork from inside it, and just that convinced mei *had* to go
>get this.
>
>very emotional, symbolic, impressive music. when i have more time
>i'm going to really sit down and analyze the music. i have a suspicion
>that the actual rhythms/time signatures and chord progressions have
>a suboncious symbolism to them. lots of 5/8 and 7/8 time signatures,
>and somehow they blend patterns of 5/8 and 7/8 sequentially to make
>a spiralling type overall sound...
>
>david, you need to hear this album...
>
>
>
>
>
> > well, brian's opinion definately makes me think twice. i've never
>thou=
> > ght of tool as progressive - have they changed their sound? i usually
>don'=
> > t concentrate on lyrics as much as the music itself, but then again, i
>susp=
> > ect brian is the same (having given me an excellent instrumental cd of
>his =
> > own band's work).
> > i'll put lateralus on my list of cd's to buy. i've been digging a
>lot =
> > of drum and bass lately, so i guess there's really not that much
>difference=
> > as far as abrasiveness anyway.
> > later,
> > jeremy
> > ----- original message -----=20
> > from: brian v. cox=20
> > to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com=20
> > sent: friday, may 25, 2001 10:28 am
> > subject: [asc2k] tool: lateralus
> >
> >
> > i just wanted to chime in and say that i think the new tool cd,
>lateralus=
> > ,
> > is brilliant. the whole thing seems to be a concept album about
>ascensi=
> > on,
> > i'll try to track down all the lyrics online and post them. and
> > jeremy, this new album is not as abrasive, imho, as their other
>albums.
> > they've matured spiritually and musically. the new album reminds me
> > alot of rush....it's amazing. there's even a sample from an art bell
> > show caller towards the end, and art bell is thanked on the back of
>the=20
> > cd. i'm amazed that one of the biggest, if not the biggest, pop
>album
> > right now is not just musically brilliant, but talks about all of this
> > ascension concept quite literally. this isnt a case of inferring
>someth=
> > ing
> > from the lyrics. it's blatant.=20=20=20
> >
> > it also has the coolest cover art i've ever seen, with a clear plastic
> > insert with all kinds of symbolic images, including much sacred
>geometry
> > and chakra symbols (trumpet shaped cones with spirals moving up
>them,=20
> > emanating from the heart, etc)=20
> >
> > everyone should at least check out the cover art, but you have to open
> > up the cd to see it. it has a black slide on plastic cover over the
> > whole thing.
> >
> > tool will be playing 7 us dates in august with prog-rock veterans king
> > crimson opening. should be a show to tell our grandkids about...
> >
> >
> >
> > --=20
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> > <div><font face=arial size=2> well, brian's opinion
>definately
> > makes me think twice. i've never thought of tool as progressive -
>have
> > they changed their sound? i usually don't concentrate on lyrics as
>much as
> > the music itself, but then again, i suspect brian is the same (having
>given me
> > an excellent instrumental cd of his own band's work).</font></div>
> > <div><font face=arial size=2> i'll put lateralus on my
>list of
> > cd's to buy. i've been digging a lot of drum and bass lately,
>so i
> > guess there's really not that much difference as far as abrasiveness
> > anyway.</font></div>
> > <div><font face=arial size=2> later,</font></div>
> > <div><font face=arial size=2> jeremy</font></div>
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> > <div style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message ----- </div>
> > <div
> > style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color:
>black"><b>from:</b>
> > <a href="mailto:lerxst@metronet.com" title=lerxst@metronet.com>brian
>v.
> > cox</a> </div>
> > <div style="font: 10pt arial"><b>to:</b> <a
> > href="mailto:asc2k@yahoogroups.com"
> > title=asc2k@yahoogroups.com>asc2k@yahoogroups.com</a> </div>
> > <div style="font: 10pt arial"><b>sent:</b> friday, may 25, 2001 10:28
>am</div>
> > <div style="font: 10pt arial"><b>subject:</b> [asc2k] tool:
>lateralus</div>
> > <div><br></div><tt>i just wanted to chime in and say that i think the
>new tool
> > cd, lateralus,<br>is brilliant. the whole thing seems to
>be a
> > concept album about ascension,<br>i'll try to track down all the
>lyrics online
> > and post them. and<br>jeremy, this new album is not
>as
> > abrasive, imho, as their other albums.<br>they've matured spiritually
>and
> > musically. the new album reminds me<br>alot of
>rush....it's
> > amazing. there's even a sample from an art bell<br>show caller
>towards
> > the end, and art bell is thanked on the back of the
><br>cd. i'm
> > amazed that one of the biggest, if not the biggest, pop album<br>right
>now is
> > not just musically brilliant, but talks about all of this<br>ascension
>concept
> > quite literally. this isnt a case of inferring
>something<br>from
> > the lyrics. it's blatant. <br><br>it also has the
>coolest
> > cover art i've ever seen, with a clear plastic<br>insert with all
>kinds of
> > symbolic images, including much sacred geometry<br>and chakra symbols
>(trumpet
> > shaped cones with spirals moving up them, <br>emanating from the
>heart, etc)
> > <br><br>everyone should at least check out the cover art, but you have
>to
> > open<br>up the cd to see it. it has a black slide on
>plastic cover
> > over the<br>whole thing.<br><br>tool will be playing 7 us dates in
>august with
> > prog-rock veterans king<br>crimson opening. should
>be a show
> > to tell our grandkids about...<br><br><br><br>--
> > <br><br>--------------<br>brian cox - brian@magpu.com<br>**magpu**
>music for
> > your mind: <a
> >
>href="http://www.magpu.com">http://www.magpu.com</a><br>"yawlurjazz!!!"
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