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Jeremy Weiland
08-22-2002, 11:18 AM
Hey Tiffani,

As always my very humble opinion. All the other Ra
scholars, please tear me down if I'm screwing this up
(I know, I know, there are no mistakes, but then you
probably have never met me ;-P)

> Ok..you can all decide later whether it is good or
> bad that I am re-reading the RA books...cause I feel
> like I am virgin asc2k girl and will be posting alot
> of questions...Doomstar...want to create a club!

An "asc2k virgin", huh? Jeez, that brings to mind all
those images of what they do to "Rocky Horror Picture
Show virgins." Rest assured, everbody, we will not
write "virgin" on your forehead if you come to
Huntsville and aren't familiar with Ra <lol>.

> So the focus was always on unity...correct...and
> possibly the law of one was always an STO teaching
> so with it absorbed with minimal distortions
> polarity towards STO would be natural, thus reaching
> ascension percentages?

I had this problem way back early in the list (go back
and check the archives to see me get smacked down)
where I said that Ra was not trying to get people to
be STO or STS, since they are without polarity. Well,
it is true that they are without polarity, but it is
quite obvious that they are trying to bring about a
positive harvest.

Well then why would they care whether positive or
negative, since all is one? Two reasons. One, the
positive path is much more efficient and there is less
net suffering involved. The negative path is all
about suffering, chiefly because of reason 2. Which
is, the negative path, as Ra puts it, is the path of
that which is not. It is the path of division,
separation, all of which is *not real*. Now, my
highest understanding of the creation is that the
creator engages in this *illusion* of separation in
order to learn about itself. The positive path uses
this illusion to learn about the real aspect of
itself, the unity of all, that which *is real*. So
the closer an entity follows the law of one, the
closer that entity interacts with reality as opposed
to illusion. And of course we are speaking in
absolute terms, not merely 3D terms.

Now it is my opinion that since the positive path is
the path of reality, since unity is the true nature of
God, that Ra in their unpolarized, 6D state would
naturally seem to act positively *from our polarized
point of view*. This tells me that the law of One,
which they follow and teach, is much more consonant
with the positive path than the negative path (but
from another perspective, this is wrong: both paths
deal with the law of One. Going against a law and
experiencing the consequences of that action proves
that the law exists just as much as following that
law). So yes, I would say that the law of One is an
STO teaching in that conscious acceptance of the fact
that all is one is conducive to positive polarization
and harvest.

However, negatives also use the law of One, since it
is impossible to exist and not interact with the
oneness of all (hopefully I'm not getting too
esoteric). So from that point of view it makes sense
when Ra says that the law of One is open to both the
negative and positive paths. Only the perspective
from which each is viewed lends the polarization; not
the law itself. However, since the positive path is
more in line with reality (unity) than negativity is,
the law of One is understood better, maybe you could
say, or from a fuller understanding.

Hope this helps. Great topic!

L/L

Jeremy

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Tiffani Boswell
08-22-2002, 01:34 PM
This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as
an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds
all things.
>
> Well then why would they care whether positive or
> negative, since all is one? Two reasons. One, the
> positive path is much more efficient and there is less
> net suffering involved. The negative path is all
> about suffering, chiefly because of reason 2. Which
> is, the negative path, as Ra puts it, is the path of
> that which is not. It is the path of division,
> separation, all of which is *not real*.

RIGHT...and I read this quote from them next:
"This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you
as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds
all things. "
but we can't exactly grasp that thought of unity thus the polarization
focus!?!???
and later they say..."compassion with which unity is informed by its ver
nature...since it contains all, it cannot abhor any"...and both paths lead
back to the creator...compassion has to be learned by the STS entity or no
unity progresses...

but RA does start definitely by expressing their words surrounded by the
distortions of the dimension they are in...
cool
tiffani

Jeremy Weiland
08-22-2002, 02:04 PM
> "This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is
> chosen by each of you
> as an alternative to understanding the complete
> unity of thought which binds
> all things. "

That quote pretty much sums up exactly what I wanted
to say :-)

> but we can't exactly grasp that thought of unity
> thus the polarization focus!?!???

According to the quote, it's not that we can't, it's
that we *choose* not to.

Ra was very precise in his language. So this means
you are choosing not to perceive unity.

But how can that be? You remember having made no such
choice.

UNLESS... you are more than what you think you are.
If that were so, a part of your identity that you are
not aware of has made this choice.

You can call it subconcious, mass mind, the unified
creator... but there is more to you than what you
experience in 3D. And the more you contemplate these
ideas, the more you will see that REALITY IS
COMPLETELY SUBJECT TO YOUR PERSPECTIVE. PERIOD.

It's not simply that you "create your own reality"
(spoken in 60's woodstock hippie tone of voice). It's
that you have two choices: to perceive reality or to
not perceive reality. And if you don't perceive
reality, you can see whatever you want, you can
hallucinate to your heart's content...

BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT REAL.

And there's only one reality: and that's unity. And
THAT is the identity that, at some level, is making
the choice to experience distortion.

> and later they say..."compassion with which unity is
> informed by its very nature...since it contains all,

> it cannot abhor any"...and both paths lead back to
> the creator...compassion has to be learned by the
> STS entity or no unity progresses...

exactly... they can hallucinate as long as they want
but they can't ignore reality, unity, infinity
forever... like A Course in Miracles says,

"Free will does not mean that you can establish the
curriculum. It means only that you can elect what you
want to take at a given time."

The curriculum being the lessons you learn through
experience.

> but RA does start definitely by expressing their
> words surrounded by the distortions of the dimension

> they are in...

Of course... they are not at unity yet but it is a
matter of degree I suppose.

Hope I'm not being to preachy here... a lot of my
emphasis is more to make these ideas concrete in *my*
mind than to talk "down" to you all... sorry. <:-)

Love/Light

Jeremy

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Mawk
08-23-2002, 05:02 AM
Dear Jeremy & Tiffani,

Please excuse me for dropping in on your discussion but I would like to
share same thoughts. First you might recall that one channeled term I have
shared for humans in 3D mode was "the masters of limitation" from Bashar: A
Blue Print for Change. Ironically from where I sit those who are at the
pinnacle of their 3D limitation mastery are those who are absolutely seduced
by the game of materialism. The concern with respect to harvest seems to be
the abyss that materialism takes one. I might add that harvest is a
potential I am happy to entertain but it is also a term that I think might
be fraught with distortion. My awareness isn't good enough yet to quantify
this statement:-)

To get to the other end of the spectrum (positive polarity) you must
"entertain potential" and initially this means exploring consciousness, this
is not without its traps as long time members here would be fully aware. To
me this is where STO and STS is so important to have a handle on. Judging by
both of your post you have a clear understanding of this. It is interesting
that both of you have also alluded to experiences that indicate far more
than sciences' "5 sense world" in the last couple of months. So to my
statement that it is consciousness that requires exploration. To have love
you need the thought of love or the act of love and an awareness of it.
Hence consciousness. To activate the chakras I know in my own case this has
required conscious intent. I know I have been guided to do this through my
dreams initially and then later through my meditations and now it is just a
conscious thought. My suspicion is both of you are also in some stage of
this process. The extent of this process may or may not be available to your
awareness and of course I realize you may not feel comfortable sharing this
aspect of your self.

What is important for both of you is to follow your bliss with a pure
intent. Realize that it is well within your capabilities to know rather than
believe. This is what makes an initiate of the law of one. The capstone of
consciousness is the key to your potential and within the ascension archives
are the tools to prove that this is more than the reality perceived in your
or my head.

Yours in the river of light,

Mawk

JohnnyPi
08-23-2002, 08:40 AM
Hope this will add to your clarification, Jeremy.
>
> And there's only one reality: and that's unity. And
> THAT is the identity that, at some level, is making
> the choice to experience distortion.
>
The One "reality" and "unity" that we find is (should be) Love.
>
> > and later they say..."compassion with which unity is
> > informed by its very nature...since it contains all,
>
> > it cannot abhor any"...and both paths lead back to
> > the creator...compassion has to be learned by the
> > STS entity or no unity progresses...
>
> "Free will does not mean that you can establish the
> curriculum. It means only that you can elect what you
> want to take at a given time."
>
> The curriculum being the lessons you learn through
> experience.
>
And the curriculum we elect for our experience is (should be) STO;
elsewise, One could not Love otherselves, and we would be without
unity and reality.

Peace, John

Jeremy Weiland
08-26-2002, 10:43 AM
> The One "reality" and "unity" that we find is
> (should be) Love.

Right.

> And the curriculum we elect for our experience is
> (should be) STO; elsewise, One could not Love
> otherselves, and we would be without unity and
> reality.

Well, we have free will to take whichever path we
choose, even the STS path, but remember that both
paths eventually lead back to the creator - just one
takes longer :-)

L/L

Jeremy

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