This forum and its people

[tbone50022000]

This forum and i am guilty is not for older people.
And i feel that this is WRONG.

You have alot to learn David, my star.
If you ARE a spiritual being then why dont you see that with your
music you completely destroy what you have build?

MUSIC= like FOOD!! It has nothing to do with opening your energy
centers and so be able to ascend!!

Why dont you tell them this FACT David? Pride perhaps?

REPENT! ( but that would make me too powerfull right David?)

[Chris Hamilton]

This forum and i am guilty is not for older people.
And i feel that this is WRONG.

Tbone, please calm down. There are lots of us "older" folks here contributing
:) David's music is his style, how he projects his feelings. We all have our
tastes and , being STO we can all appreciate everyone else's views. Sweetie, I
am well over 40, and there are many on the site like me. It is a well-rounded
site in my opinion :)

With love and compassion intended Chris


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[eternityarchangel]

In love/light to the group, but especially TBONE-

Wow man, where did that outburst come from? And what's wrong with
music? David may not be selling out any stadiums soon, but at least
he's tapping into a creative side.

Repent? What is this, some fundamentalist prison? With all due
respect to you, why don't you try putting a little love in your heart
and control those emotions. Not even Jesus was perfect (yes I just
said that) but he tried a lot harder then us. David and us members
aren't perfect but this group is not about bashing, it's about
supporting through unconditional love, NO MATTER WHAT.

And I love you TBONE, but try to tone down the negativity and show
some respect, especially to the man whose largely responsible for
some of the most revolutionary and influential material of this
earths last 3d existence!

Peace,
Colin

[tbone50022000]

> In love/light to the group, but especially TBONE-
>
> Wow man, where did that outburst come from? And what's wrong with
> music? David may not be selling out any stadiums soon, but at least
> he's tapping into a creative side.
>
> Repent? What is this, some fundamentalist prison? With all due
> respect to you, why don't you try putting a little love in your
heart
> and control those emotions. Not even Jesus was perfect (yes I just
> said that) but he tried a lot harder then us. David and us members
> aren't perfect but this group is not about bashing, it's about
> supporting through unconditional love, NO MATTER WHAT.
>
> And I love you TBONE, but try to tone down the negativity and show
> some respect, especially to the man whose largely responsible for
> some of the most revolutionary and influential material of this
> earths last 3d existence!
>
> Peace,
> Colin

At least i didnt pretend!
And i am still NOT convinced RA is authentic.!!

Bashing is good sometimes. It makes the entity free of limitations!
And believe it or not, David is my King.

Peace back, Tbone

[sol72us]

--- In asc2k@y..., "David Wilcock" <david@a...> wrote:
> As I once said to Pat,


"To God Be The Glory."

[David Wilcock]

From: "tbone50022000"

> At least i didnt pretend!
> And i am still NOT convinced RA is authentic.!!

DW: Well, as the man Jesus said, "By their fruits shall they be known." One
amazing little point about Carla is that she was so humble that when Scott
was up introducing her and going off into a tangent, thinking that she
wasn't in the audience, she actually was in the back meditating... and this
went on for apparently some 10 minutes before I finally was told, and then
went up and whispered first in Jim's ear, and asked him if I should tell
Scott - and he said yes, so I did.

Those who did get to meet Carla and Jim all had the same reaction that I
did - they are just amazingly high-vibration people. I sat next to Jim the
whole time Carla spoke, and never once did he so much as move a muscle or
keep from focusing right at her - still very much aware of his importance as
"the Scribe," who balanced Elkins' distortions to allow Ra to come through.

So, when you combine the integrity of the desire to serve on behalf of the
surviving crew, and the importance of the unifying message of Ra and how it
interfaces with all major traditions of ancient wisdom, it works.
Furthermore, experience has proven that the more you meditate on the
concepts and work with the material, the more you get out of it. I've been
studying it since 1996 and I still gain new insights, or will discover some
new scientific point only to find that it is already in there somewhere,
just waiting to be rediscovered.

> Bashing is good sometimes. It makes the entity free of limitations!
> And believe it or not, David is my King.

DW: Well, as Tbone knows there was another post where he said this, and I
decided not to approve it for posting - but given that all is acceptable and
free will is free will, I decided to let this one through. Part of the free
will clause is not to infringe on others - and we do have some discussion
guidelines that should be kept clear in people's minds. This wasn't as "over
the top" as the one that didn't escape the net.

Anyway, Tbone and I did discuss this privately... he had the intuitive sense
that I had been the King David of biblical renown, and I informed him that
he was right - all Cayce scholars know that the readings said that this was
one of his incarnations, as well as priest Ra-Ta and spiritual Persian king
Ujhltd. In fact, Sabrina is the reincarnation of David's wife Bathsheba and
has had memories as such. Then when you add Pythagoras and Lucius of Cyrene,
who wrote the biblical Book of Luke (along with another entity who is now
the director of the ARE, Charles Thomas,) including of course that famous
passage about loving being a "clanging cymbal" that is read at almost every
wedding, not to mention Akenhaten (so said my readings, not Cayce's, who
informed him that there were other incarnations that they had not spoken of
that were influential) and you'll see how this adds up to a rather
continuing influential role here on Earth. I try to downplay this as much as
I can, but it is pretty interesting nevertheless... most of the time I never
think about it as I find it distracting, and saying "you were someone
important before" is the quickest way to alienate yourself... and I'm not
looking to scare people away or self-aggrandize in any fashion.

Now bear in mind that I was told this piece about Akenhaten before any of
the stuff came through about a past life as Cayce. It seemed to be the first
thing to "crack the door open" to prepare me for what was coming later. Once
I was told that, I went back through the first book of the Law of One to
consider what Ra said about Akenhaten back in 1981 in the following set of
quotes, and this is what I saw - now remember that this is the un-edited
version, so it doesn't read as smoothly as some of the excerpts in the Study
Guide that were "softened" in their verbiage by Dr. Bob Childers:

"QUESTIONER: Could you tell us something of your historical background and
your contact with earlier races on this planet? Then we would have something
to start with.

RA: I am Ra. We are aware that your mind/body is calculating the proper
method of performing the task of creating a teach/learning instrument. We
are aware that you find our incarnate, as you call it, state of interest. We
waited for a second query so as to emphasize that the time/space of several
thousand of your years creates a spurious type of interest. Thus in giving
this information, we ask the proper lack of stress be placed upon our
experiences in your local space/time. The teach/learning which is our
responsibility is philosophical rather than historical. We shall proceed
with your request which is harmless if properly evaluated.

We are those of the Confederation who eleven thousand of your years ago came
to two of your planetary cultures which were at that time closely in touch
with the creation of the One Creator. It was our naive belief that we could
teach/learn by direct contact and that the free will distortions of
individual feeling or personality were in no danger. We had no thought of
their being disturbed, as these cultures were already closely aligned with
an all-embracing belief in the live-ness or consciousness of all. We came
and were welcomed by the peoples whom we wished to serve. We attempted to
aid them in technical ways having to do with the healing of mind/body/spirit
complex distortions through the use of the crystal, appropriate to the
distortion, placed within a certain appropriate series of ratios of
time/space material. Thus were the pyramids created.

We found that the technology was reserved largely for those with the
effectual mind/body distortion of power. This was not intended by the Law of
One. We left your peoples. The group that was to work with those in the area
of South America, as you call that portion of your sphere, gave up not so
easily. They returned. We did not. However, we have never left your
vibration due to our responsibility for the changes in consciousness we had
first caused and then found distorted in ways not relegated to the Law of
One. We attempted to contact the rulers of the land to which we had come,
that land which you call Egypt, or in some areas, the Holy Land.

In the Eighteenth Dynasty, as it is known in your records of space/time
distortions, we were able to contact a pharaoh, as you would call him. The
man was small in life-experience on your plane and was a . what this
instrument would call, Wanderer. Thus, this mind/body/spirit complex
received our communication distortions and was able to blend his distortions
with our own. This young entity had been given a vibratory complex of sound
which vibrated in honor of a prosperous god, as this mind/body complex,
which we call instrument for convenience, would call "Ammon." The entity
decided that this name, being in honor of one among many gods, was not
acceptable for inclusion in his vibratory sound complex. Thus, he changed
his name to one which honored the sun disc. This distortion, called "Aten,"
was a close distortion to our reality as we understand our own nature of
mind/body/spirit complex distortion. However, it does not come totally into
alignment with the intended teach/learning which was sent. This entity,
Ikhnaton, became convinced that the vibration of One was the true spiritual
vibration and thus decreed the Law of One.

However, this entity's beliefs were accepted by very few. His priests gave
lip service only, without the spiritual distortion towards seeking. The
peoples continued in their beliefs. When this entity was no longer in this
density, again the polarized beliefs in the many gods came into their own
and continued so until the one known as Mohammed delivered the peoples into
a more intelligible distortion of mind/body/spirit relationships.

[snip]

QUESTIONER: You stated yesterday that you appeared in the skies over Egypt
at that time. Were the Egyptian entities able to see you in their skies?

RA: I am Ra. This is correct.

QUESTIONER: What did they see, and how did this affect their attitudes?

RA: I am Ra. They saw what you would speak of as crystal powered bell-shaped
craft.

This did not affect them due to their firm conviction that many wondrous
things occurred as a normal part of a world, as you would call it, in which
many, many deities had powerful control over supernatural events.

QUESTIONER: Did you have a reason for being visible to them rather than
being invisible?

RA: I am Ra. This is correct.

QUESTIONER: Can you tell me your reason for being visible to them?

RA: I am Ra. We allowed visibility because it did not make any difference.

QUESTIONER: Then at this time you did not contact them. Can you answer the
same question that I just asked with respect to your next attempt to contact
the Egyptians?

RA: I am Ra. The next attempt was prolonged. It occurred over a period of
time. The nexus, or center, of our efforts was a decision upon our parts
that there was a sufficient calling to attempt to walk among your peoples as
brothers.

We laid this plan before the Council of Saturn, offering ourselves as
service-oriented Wanderers of the type which land directly upon the inner
planes without incarnative processes. Thus we emerged, or materialized, in
physical-chemical complexes representing as closely as possible our natures,
this effort being to appear as brothers and spend a limited amount of time
as teachers of the Law of One, for there was an ever-stronger interest in
the sun body, and this vibrates in concordance with our particular
distortions.

We discovered that for each word we could utter, there were thirty
impressions we gave by our very being, which confused those entities we had
come to serve. After a short period we removed ourselves from these entities
and spent much time attempting to understand how best to serve those to whom
we had offered ourselves in love/light.

The ones who were in contact with that geographical entity, which you know
of as Atlantis, had conceived of the potentials for healing by use of the
pyramid-shape entities. In considering this and making adjustments for the
difference as in the distortion complexes of the two geographical cultures,
as you would call them, we went before the Council again, offering this plan
to the Council as an aid to the healing and the longevity of those in the
area you know of as Egypt. In this way we hoped to facilitate the learning
process as well as offer philosophy articulating the Law of One. Again the
Council approved.

Approximately 11,000 of your years ago we entered, by thought-form, your-we
correct this instrument. We sometimes have difficulty due to low vitality.
Approximately 8,500 years ago, having considered these concepts carefully,
we returned, never having left in thought, to the thought-form areas of your
vibrational planetary complex and considered for some of your years, as you
measure time, how to appropriately build these structures.

The first, the Great Pyramid, was formed approximately 6,000 of your years
ago. Then, in sequence, after this performing by thought of the building or
architecture of the Great Pyramid using the more, shall we say, local or
earthly material rather than thought-form material to build other pyramidal
structures. This continued for approximately 1,500 of your years.

[DW: This was the big "mistake" that Ra made - and they said in other places
that timing is the most difficult aspect of their work with us, since they
work outside of it. The Cayce Readings said that the GP was built between
11,490 and 11,30 BC, and the evidence of Hancock and Bauval supports that
very well. Notice that Ra started to answer the question correctly, saying
"approximately 11,000 years," and then changed the answer - and this is the
only time in all five books that they make a verbal fumble. I was finally
able to OK this with myself by seeing that some part of Carla's mind was
aware enough at this point to have edited what came through to make it more
in tune with the conventional archeological dating for the GP's
construction, even apologizing to Elkins by invoking "difficulty due to low
vitality." Proceeding...]

Meanwhile, the information concerning initiation and healing by crystal was
being given. The one known as "Ikhnaton" was able to perceive this
information without significant distortion and for a time, moved, shall we
say, heaven and earth in order to invoke the Law of One and to order the
priesthood of these structures in accordance with the distortions of
initiation and true compassionate healing. This was not to be long-lasting.

At this entity's physical dissolution from your third-density physical
plane, as we have said before, our teachings became quickly perverted, our
structures once again went to the use of the so-called "royal" or those with
distortions towards power.

[DW: Notice that Ra said 'once again,' which is a small clue that they were
indeed aware that the GP was older than 6,000 years, as from probably that
one single time that Carla's mind complex distorted the message in a small
and transient way.]

[snip]

"QUESTIONER: Can you tell me what happened to Ikhnaton after his physical
death?

RA: I am Ra. This entity was then put through the series of healing and
review of incarnational experiences which is appropriate for third-density
experience. This entity had been somewhat in the distortions of power
ameliorated by the great devotion to the Law of One. This entity thus
resolved to enter a series of incarnations in which it had no distortions
towards power."

- END -

So, it is clear that in future incarnations there would be no major
opportunity for temporal "power" until all the healing is complete... and I
hope to be well along in that process, through humbling things like the hand
injury, et cetera. Certainly Cayce's life was very disempowered, as his work
became far more widely known after his death, like many of the great
artists. There is a possibility that director Ron Howard may be doing a
Cayce movie, so we'll see how that goes...

Apparently that "series" of powerless lifetimes is slated to complete this
time around. The opportunity to be in a popular book as Cayce's
reincarnation earlier this year was stymied, as some of you know. I don't
really expect a whole lot more to happen with my career while 3D is still in
effect, though I could be wrong. My readings have said that I will have an
important leadership role in 4D earth, but the STO path doesn't require any
one person to be considered higher or mightier than any other - it is very
much a true confederacy / democracy that is set up. If the people want me to
fulfill some important role, such as in the rebuilding of the pyramid
network to heal the biosphere, then I'll be glad to help out... but as far
as I'm concerned, I'm just here to serve in whatever way is requested. I
certainly don't encourage anyone to focus on "the man," but rather on the
message itself. As I once said to Pat, "Give God the glory."

Peace be with you -

- David