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tle@...
08-18-2002, 02:30 PM
>>DW: During Christmas of my senior year in HS, I was given the entire series
>>of Castenada books at that time, from yÃÂà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚‚ÂàƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚‚´Teachings of Don JuanyÃÃÂà ‚‚‚à‚´ all the way
>>through until yÃÂà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚‚ÂàƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚‚´The Power of Silence.yÃÃà ƒÂ‚‚‚ÃÂà‚‚´ They definitely had an impact on me
>>and helped to open my mind to higher realities and possibilities.
>>
>>Now, with the amount of exposure that I have had to others via such a
>>popular website and public outreach, I have gotten a more complete picture
>>of what happened. Essentially, part of Castenada's own distortions was that
>>right from the beginning he had anonymized his real teachers into one single
>>identity - and it is true that one teacher formed the bulk of that
>>personality. His real name is Kachora and he is still alive, and there is a
>>very strong bedrock of people who try to catch him wherever he speaks. The
>>last time I was aware that he was going to speak somewhere, negative
>>interference caused his flight to be cancelled and he never was able to make
>>it.
>>
>>As you may know from reading the later books, Castenada decided to practice
>>yÃÂà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚‚ÂàƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚‚´not-doingyÃà‚‚Ã ‚´ by taking a very menial restaurant job to totally divest himself
>>of any ego or self-pride... especially since only a small number of people
>>are actually aware of his physical appearance. This advice was given to him
>>by a woman he was working with, one of a few Americans who are mentioned in
>>the later books.
>>
>>Although no book discusses this, per se, the woman he worked with has
>>apparently told others the truth that he confessed to her about some of what
>>was going on in the books. The single biggest lie that he told was at the
>>end of yÃÂà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚‚ÂàƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚‚´Tales of Power.yÃÃà‚‚‚ÃÂÂà ‚‚´ They did NOT jump off of a cliff and teleport
>>somewhere else, and yÃÂà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚‚ÂàƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚‚´Don JuanyÃÃÂà ‚‚‚à‚´ did NOT go through a dark slit in the sky to
>>permanently enter into the yÃÂà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚‚ÂàƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚‚´second attention.yÃàƒÃƒÂ‚‚‚ÃÂà ƒÂ‚‚´ This distortion was inspired
>>in part by the publishing company, who wanted something totally sensational
>>to catapult the sales of the book series even further than it already was
>>going - and it worked.
>>
>>After this, since he had written Don Juan out of the script, he was forced
>>to write entire books of Don Juan's teachings with the fake idea that he had
>>received them while in the yÃÂà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚‚ÂàƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚‚´second attentionyÃà ‚‚ÃÂà ‚‚´ back when Don Juan was still
>>around. In fact, if you read the books you can see that he was continuing to
>>do what he had already done; take notes while in the presence of Kachora and
>>his teachings. I would also be very, very skeptical about the goings-on in
>>yÃÂà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚‚ÂàƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚‚´The Second Ring of PoweryÃà‚‚Ã ‚´ as well.
>>
>>However, in his later books such as yÃÂà ƒÂƒÃ‚‚‚ÂàƒÃ‚ƒÃ‚‚´The Art of DreamingyÃÃà ƒÂ‚‚‚ÃÂà‚‚´ he seems to
>>dispense with the more transient material and hone in on what is more
>>important - the work of the adept. I've written before in this group about
>>his last book where he goes through a very candid and enlightening process
>>of life review, soon before his death.
>>
>>Peace be with you -
>>
>>- David
>
>Hi David,
>
>A late reply I know. I am currently reading my way through the Casteneda books
and am thoroughly fascinated by them; as much as when I read the first book of
the Ra material. I am curious about your sources to the behind the scenes
information you write about above, and if you could possibly provide me with any
avenues I may persue to research this information further...
>
>A very curius adventurer.
>
>
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David Wilcock
08-19-2002, 01:18 AM
From: <tle@... (/group/asc2k/post?postID=SbKasv_5P16EXBNsQP5DCYUuY7maoEsD10HLt1 El53c_2Bkmk5etnMyU4OXGMOLUp5QINAqYqg)>

> >Hi David,
> >
> >A late reply I know. I am currently reading my way through the Casteneda
books and am thoroughly fascinated by them; as much as when I read the first
book of the Ra material. I am curious about your sources to the behind the
scenes information you write about above, and if you could possibly provide
me with any avenues I may persue to research this information further...
> >
> >A very curius adventurer.

DW: Sorry... but I don't want to get involved in the politics of this. All I
will say is that it has come to me from multiple physical human sources who
have been in contact with the shaman women who worked with Castenada in his
later books, such as "Magical Passes." It is relatively common knowledge
that Kachora is "Don Juan," hence the buzz when he is going to speak
somewhere, and I would recommend doing a search on that name if you want to
go further with this. Dr. Mandelker has actually met Kachora.

Peace be with you -

- David

tobbelobbe
08-19-2002, 06:41 PM
Just want to say that the Carlitobooks are GREAT "can openers".
Read them, and "kill" yourselfes!

I Love You!
TorbjÃÃÂà ‚‚ƒÃ ‚¶rn.