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David Wilcock
05-09-2001, 04:11 PM
hello, fellow evolving god-beings,

this is definitely going to be a post worth reading, possibly useful for
publication on the "website guidelines for email discussion" section. it's
ended up taking me all day and has gone through a number of edits. let me
tackle the recent letter from barb, which obviously represents a minority
opinion, possibly a one-person minority, as it will illuminate some areas
for those of us who are new to this list. most defamatory / character
assaulting letters will not receive responses, and i am not going to give
any further energy to this discussion than what is presented herein. again,
experience will prove that this is not a pavlovian system where people
expect to tease a response out of me by broadstroke condemnations. as a
result of my innate spiritual freedom, nothing that anyone says or does will
hurt me or cause me to feel negative emotions.

(i wasn't always like this, but have worked the process since late last
december with great success! thank you korga! you were my catalyst, dear
friend, and we finally worked it out when i clarified the difference between
total ascension to the seventh or eighth "density" (which many ancient
eastern teachings have tried to instill, giving the being an opportunity to
have ascended abilities and traverse the higher realms at will) and "public"
ascension to the fourth density! there's nothing in my mind now except a
renewed desire to serve clearly, in this case by spending all day answering
this question.)

i will be more than happy to let stony silence stand in the future when such
posts are made and have others speak up instead. however, we're all learning
together, and some of us will naturally express some measure of return
hostility that might elicit positive feelings to the individual and group
mind, but nevertheless is unwarranted. (so far, it has not been enough to
get booted off the list, though... we're very forgiving, all learning
together and need to foster that "safe" atmosphere... :)

so with that, i'll post the original letter in its entirety for comparison
and analysis purposes:

"dearest byron,

"donned with the full armor, i tend to like to "spy" (for lack of a better
phrase) on the enemy. this group has me stumped. do you know what they are
talking about. i know it has something to do with what they think is the
"evolution" of the earth and the so called ascended masters - one of which
is maitreya - and the fact that all of us hateful believers of the one and
true jesus will not be involved in this lurch forward....

[note: before we ever go on any further, there is no mention of "maitreya"
anywhere on the ascension2000 site. in section two of the time of global
shift tour, ana rincon mentions that there is a buddhist prophecy regarding
the return of a "maitreya" that many believe is scheduled for the present
moment, and this is simply advanced as another data point to show the
cross-cultural focus on the time that we are now in as one of great
spiritual change. that's all we say. however, there is indeed a man who
seems to have claimed that he is a messiah, calls himself "maitreya" and is
obviously a confused, distorted and predominantly negative, power-seeking
being. the rest of the above arguments will be tackled later... but for now,
remember this quote that joe myers just mentioned to me on the phone:

jesus once said, "who made me a judge over my brother?"

think about that line if addressing someone from the "wwjd" (what would
jesus do) perspective. we'll deal with the "one and true jesus" line as we
go. and now, the rest of the letter:]

"they talk alot about nazis and nietzsche (do you have any clue what that
is???) i'm tryin' to understand this so i can be a proper "watchman":)

[note: nietzsche is a philosopher who you would learn about in any
introductory college philosophy class. his core "nihilistic" beliefs, as i
understand them, are extremely distorted and completely irrelevant to any
discussions on this list, though jeremy has studied them in a little more
detail than did i. my mention of him was in the context of a joke only, as
the archives show. this group has been around since some time last november,
i believe, and as others pointed out the last three emails had this thread
in some form out of a total of 600 or more, making it less than one half of
one percent of all emails.]

"did you hear about that school in nyc that has banned mother's day and
father's day in the name of political correctness???? my lord, come
quickly!

"love ya, doc,
barb"

let's not forget that even in naked silence, most of those on this group
have the discernment to see right where people are in their posts, and no
harm is done. that quote again returns: "it is the same to take offense as
it is to give offense." think about that statement and read the above letter
again. then think about that statement and read some of the rebuttals on the
list as well. this works both ways. to be the highest examples we can be, we
should demonstrate that we are unmoved by others' statements and simply
remain in a place of understanding and compassion for the sorrows of
third-density life and the never-ending ontological struggle of human being
searching for ultimate being, or "the search for god."

and being unmoved also means that we are unafraid to discuss any
participant's statements at the deepest, truest level, even if that
participant may feel quite insulted and not like what they see in the
aftermath. my response is intended to be a cogent reply to the leading
question, which was certainly not very loving to anyone except to dr. byron
___, who may or may not even be a member of this list, i'm not certain.
barb's letter is filled with judgments and attacks that demonstrate a very
brief, incomplete assessment of this material that most others here could
easily address, as has already been done with lightning speed! all are
automatically excluded in this letter except "the doc," with the emphasis on
his ph.d. further delineating the "us and them" mentality.

remember that to participate here by posting such comments is to **enter
statements for review by your own free will decision...** which may result
in some degree of *analysis of the messenger* that could prove embarassing
or even humiliating to the originating party. others should keep this in
mind; the people on this list possess deep wisdom and profound psychological
insight; so, what may start as a simple free-willed complaint could turn
into a "reading" of the soul's strengths and weaknesses. this is a forum...
and you should expect all manner of responses! it is your free will to
submit a "gift" to the group consciousness to be digested in this manner!

so if you have an adroit fondness for christianity (fundamentalist or
otherwise) and feel that all else is a distortion, then find a good church
near your home, attend bible study, join christian newsgroups and leave it
at that. you'll have all that you need for where you're at, and certainly
would not need to create the role of "watchman" for yourself and disrupt our
group harmony, carefully built up on wilcock and his contributors'
lifetime(s) of effort, (such as rod johnson's sequential physics,) now
freely given on the website. ra's suggestion that "if you can't be of
service, then withdraw" is perfect in light of this situation here.
condemning statements are almost never a service to others, except as a
means of enhancing the fidelity and communication of all those who feel
offended by the statements.

if you think that we're all mad as hatters, then recognize that one brief,
ill-tempered email rushed off without the proper background research of the
website (which admittedly would take at least a month or two, and i was only
on art bell one and three weeks ago, respectively) is not likely to be of
any service to us. furthermore, this judgmental statement has probably only
reinforced the majority's predisposed view of fundamentalist christians,
thus further insuring that others will not come to the "one and true jesus"
as per barb's definition.

i think that what prompted barb's letter (who may have already unsubscribed
by now, someone did, that tends to be the pattern, stab and retreat) is the
fact that, compared to other times in our history, we now have more than 200
folks on this list and very few of them have been compelled to write
anything. most likely, this has as much to do with myself as with anyone
else, as i've been working very busily to finish convergence iii and recover
from the all-night experience with ab recently. tomorrow i'm off to dc for
the next two phases of the disclosure conferences as an invited guest, so
now is a hectic time to say the least.

we're all busy. there's a lot of stuff to read on this website. the
vibrations are quickening. we're all feeling it. we're all going through it,
regardless of color or creed. i had a guy email me and try to tell me that
all our troubles are from "race mixing," and that was the only letter that i
didn't even honor with a brief answer, it was so flatly negative. i rented
and watched "bamboozled" by spike lee as an antidote, crying my eyes out at
the controversial ending as well as at other points. and a letter like this
is "religionist," only a few steps away from being "racist" and coming from
the same exclusionist attitudes.

in the past, when written letters (often those of a cursory or attacking
nature in particular) have triggered long litanies from me, (and all that
can be found within the archives) it tends to get things rolling.
controversy, coupled with my own participation, greases the gears to be
sure! unfortunately this becomes less and less likely of a prospect, as my
schedule is truly growing... i now am blessed with approximately triple the
email volume that i had prior to ab, with huge surges of 150+ a day at the
times i'm on the show. i'm working on that piece where "it's not
overwhelming if you don't choose it to be..." so now i've scaled back my
expectations and my letter-writers get smaller responses... much smaller.
most emails are multi-question, multi-page affairs, with single-sentence,
single-topic replies... :)

so as a result of this overall lack of group activity, even given the
enormous amount of personal email i have received, the new socio-political
developments and the final release of fifteen chapters of my
long-anticipated new book, the content of this group would appear to be
rather minimal.

[the socio-political developments include the pope officially endorsing
mutual forgiveness and acceptance of islam. have you watched the news
lately? go to http://www.cnn.com and see; he's actually saying "a salaam
aleiakum" (the god in me honors the god in you) and engaging in muslim
customs such as kissing the soil... (uh-oh... unity? cooperation? anything
but that! :) we're also seeing the "disclosure" event occurring right as i
write!]

so, despite these developments that should trigger discussion, if someone
had joined this list without really doing the 'homework,' which by necessity
would involve reading at least some of shift of the ages / convergence iii
and poring through the readings archives for things that look interesting,
then any assessment of the work would be characteristically myopic.

this list is intended as an augmentation for the study of the site, so that
as the questions and "stumpings" raised by the complex material on the
website come about, you can discuss them with others instead of simply
emailing wilcock, who is often way too overloaded to respond with anything
more than one-sentence gratuities as of late... and it's only going to get
worse. don't even ask how many people have been waiting patiently for
readings... we're still suspending all dream reading operations, (and
thereby all normal funding sources) until we can finish the entire book for
the public to read freely! :)

one can surmise that barb's comments originate from my desire not to exclude
art bell from the topics that dr. mandelker and myself were discussing. you
have to know your host, and in this case i've listened to enough shows to
know that art often goes into a mode where he starts "tuning out" when he's
dealing with guests who he really doesn't want to attack. what makes him
tune out? new age metaphysics and lingo, repetition of words like "god,"
christan bible-thumping, claims of channeling, et cetera. everyone tries to
grab the microphone and the podium and drop their own rant, while
consequently disregarding art's needs and desires as a host... james van
praagh didn't touch art's comment "i'm not so sure about the christian view
of god" with a ten-foot pole! otherwise, he did a great job!

however, if art feels that his guests can take it, then he will attack. he
did this with us by making the comment, "now you can say whatever you want,
but i want to say this. everybody talks about how great this (ascension) is
going to be... but it's going to turn us all into hamburger! poof! all we
know for certain is that we're all going to die, right?" i had to then
explain, in detail, a case for why these higher electromagnetic fields we
are now experiencing will produce a transmutation of the physical body into
a higher state of energetic vibration. for other examples of art attacking
his guests, take the first two appearances that hoagland had with art after
he returned to the radio. the second show with eugene mallove on free energy
was especially intense, as far as conflict goes. usually art is not as
blatant in his critiques as what i encountered with laura lee, but art can
certainly dish it out.

so 'know your host.' what does that mean? my host said, just less than a
week prior to when i was on the air with him, that he had "some serious
problems with the christian idea of god." so many people get on this show
and essentially end up using art... they get the microphone and deliver
their two cents' worth, and they really haven't studied him or learned his
character traits. they're inevitably quick to market their wares in the
hopes of making gobs and gobs of money (which by the way is far less likely
to happen then they think it will be; after all, there's a new guest every
night and the net provides unlimited information gratification.)

at the fellowship church that i attend here in virginia beach and have
spoken at, the same thing happens. people do sunday services and they never
attend otherwise; they don't really know the congregation's attitudes,
emotions and needs, and in some cases they deliver sermons that have little
or nothing to do with where the group-mind is at. nevertheless, they're
satisfied within themselves (often visibly so) at delivering what they think
the word of god really is.

so, by honoring art's needs, i directly addressed his previous statements,
showing that i wanted him to be beside us as we continued forward and i was
sensitive to his own concerns. there is no judgment in saying that humans
innately anthropomorphize god, imbuing their idea of god with human
qualities; it is very easily seen.

my key point is this: for millions of inhabited planets in one galaxy alone,
with an infinity of galaxies that have never been determined to have an
ending point, can we ever even begin to tackle these "ultimate questions"
with anything but humility, reverence and awe, along with a completely open
mind? as maurice chatelain said in his book, "can we really imagine that
every planet in the universe is required to have jesus arrive, be crucified
and resurrected, in order to insure their ongoing spiritual welfare?"
especially in light of the ancient civilizations that we now know of on
earth alone!

now turning our focus away from the cosmic and back to the local, we have
someone who listened that night and was compelled to join this group,
probably as a result of being angered by this comment. to get right down to
the core of this issue, there's a lot of pain in someone who would write a
letter like this, and we can feel compassion for that fact. simple
psychology shows that this being feels an increasing loss of control in its
environment, and a consequent feeling of despair. let's review the issues:

1. the letter expresses regret over the "loss" of mother and father's day in
one single school in one single city. ("did you hear about that school in
nyc that has banned mother's day and father's day in the name of political
correctness????") this demonstrates a focus on the apparent importance of
human social conventions, while not realizing that god is not contained in
mother's day or father's day; god is far too vast to ever be confined to a
holiday, or a definition, or a religious sect. you could lose all the
holidays under a completely despotic, dictatorial government and god is
unmoved.

one school within one city changing its policies is very, very transient in
light of the cosmic plan that is now unfolding before us. other planets have
had it far worse than ourselves; this harvest is actually relatively
positive and smooth compared to other "borg"-type situations where the
negative polarity is the dominant force involved. we're already nearly three
years outside of the worst-case scenario probabilities for our future that
were seen by cayce only 60 years ago; 1998 came and went without a hitch,
though we could have had the complete loss of california and a polar shift
already by this point.

however, to a being that is feeling overwhelmed by the "illusion" of life in
our current plane, the adaptation or elimination of human cultural
conventions (such as holidays) can appear very distressing. if this is the
case, then such beings will only find themselves growing more and more
desperate as these months proceed. very little of the current order will
remain before the shift itself, and we're now way past the point where any
thinking person can deny it; if they live in california they don't have
lights for the second day in a row today, including traffic lights, and like
chicago, they will be paying $3.00 a gallon for gasoline within another two
months or less. this is real.

but all the above that i've just said is nothing; it's a snow job; it's only
answering the external statement without the internal pain. the real issue
is much deeper, should be obvious, and is one that we should all have
compassion for. possibly as a mother, but even more deeply and
subconsciously as the divine feminine (or goddess spirit) of the earth at
this time, this being is feeling a lack of love, a lack of respect for who
and what it is. now is not the time right before father's day, it is the
time right before mother's day. and this points to where the real pain is.
this letter is a cry for help, in many ways similar to the intentions of a
suicide note. it would undoubtedly draw stinging fire in almost all cases,
thus emphasizing the suicidal quality to it.

woman, goddess, mother, we love you. we respect you. we honor you. we revere
you. we know that most human beings on this planet have gotten caught up in
the patriarchal structures; that is all changing now. in the past you had a
total matriarchal system, and we now know from experience that this didn't
work either. unity is, and always has been, the key.

take the words from dr. neil peart, ph.d. psychology, drummer and songwriter
for the band "rush." he touches on this male-female archetypal struggle so
beautifully, calling it the battle between love and reason, associating it
with the right and left hemispheres of the brain (the album is called
hemispheres.)

peart uses greek mythology to make his point. apollo is the god associated
with the feminine / love / right brain archetype, and dionysus is associated
with the masculine / reason / left brain archetype. cygnus is the god of the
greek mythos who came to unify the two perspectives of love and reason, and
at this point in the song they have finally heard his cry for unity:

"apollo was astonished,
dionysus thought me mad.
but they heard my story further,
and they wondered, and were sad.

looking down from olympus
on a world of doubt and fear,
it's surface splintered into
sorry hemispheres...

[guitar solo]

they sat a while in silence,
then they turned at last to me,
"we will call you cygnus,
the god of balance you shall be...""

then the reprise, a beautiful melody set to a very nice, very simple
strumming guitar track, really socks it home:

"we can walk our roads together,
if our goals are all the same.
we can run alone and free,
if we pursue a different aim.

let the truth of love be lighted;
let the love of truth shine clear;
sensibility,
armed with sense and liberty,
with our heard and mind united
in one single,
perfect,
sphere..."

if you love this album you'll know why there are tears in my eyes right now.
will we ever understand... (i guess i'm not yet transparent in
personality... :)

2. the stated desire for "my lord" to come quickly, coupled with the utterly
distorted sentence that "all of us hateful believers of the one and true
jesus will not be involved" contains a whale of a lot of hidden information
about the nature of its writer, and it will take us a number of paragraphs
to break it down. so before we go into the idea of the compartmentalization
of the infinitely vast oneness into something that is exclusive only to this
being, (through the use of the word "my",) let's begin by saying that this
statement implies that we've said that all fundamentalist christians are not
ready for harvest.

quite to the contrary, the only thing that matters for each person is
whether or not they have truly chosen to serve others, hence serving god. a
fundamentalist could certainly make this choice under those conditions with
sufficient purity, providing that they are not actively going around
proselytizing and attacking others. we've all heard every sect try to say
that their god is the only true god. if you serve this ultimate being,
oneness or "true" god by loving all others as yourself, then you have
applied the higher teachings.

you're here to make one simple choice... nothing else matters... will it be
manipulation, control and enslavement of others or love, care and support
for them? if you choose love and service to others then it must be
unconditional love. smile. be nice. be friendly. love people. treat the girl
at the grocery store and the man at the gas station with the respect they
deserve as fellow co-creators, no higher or lower than yourself. it is not
your responsibility to figure out whether they believe in jesus or not, or
to treat them any differently if they did than if they didn't. if you're not
doing that, then you're making the opposite choice, which is to manipulate
and enslave them. this should be simple enough, but for a number of reasons
having to do with negative interference, it is not.

wilcock's statements on art bell that "there is no judgment involved in this
[ascension] process" and "it truly does not matter what faith you are", that
"the only thing that matters is how much you have become a reflection of god
in your personal desire to serve others" sounds good enough to most new
agers... but to others it is completely explosive. such a statement can
certainly be disconcerting, even exasperating to those whose ego
consciousness is heavily invested in the idea of "being right" and thereby
asserting others as "being wrong." and as we go i'll explain exactly what i
mean by that.

my personal experience has proven time and time again that this entire
"religious" behavior complex originates from feelings of profound inner
guilt over the past, which in turn lead to the idea that an outside divine
force must "forgive" the being instead of that being taking the
responsibility to forgive itself. most people in these situations claim that
self-forgiveness is impossible, if you can get them into a candid and honest
discussion about it, which i have often done.

all too often i have heard born-agains and fundamentalists claim that their
'sins' are far too extreme for them to be able to ever forgive themselves.
they say this because *that is what they are taught in their worship
services.* i've gone and heard it myself. this teaching is what allows these
groups to enslave their members, convince them to pay extraordinarily high
tithes and attend services all throughout the week, not just on sundays. the
idea that it is impossible to forgive yourself comes from the negative
polarity, which ra claims is locally headed up by negative entities in
fourth and fifth density who originate from a star system in the orion
constellation. the negative polarity desires control and enslavement, and
"seeks the aggrandizement of self or of social organizations with which self
identifies."

forgive the stark analogy, but let's enter in a far more extreme and ugly
form of negative polarity enslavement for comparison. when you volunteer for
the suicide hotline, they show you these very shocking films where you see
the freshly-battered wife, replete with huge black and blue marks on her
face, going through an entrance interview for a shelter. the counselor says,
"you do acknowledge that he tried to kill you; he hit your head with the
back of his gun." she replies, "yes... but i still love him." sadly, it is
immediately evident that the person has completely handed over their own
power to an outside entity.

why did i use such a violent analogy? not because people have been
physically assaulted in these facilities... (ah, you say... but they have.
every week there's a new story about pastors drinking alcohol, abusing
tithes / donations "to god" for personal gain and accosting church members
sexually...) essentially, those wife-beaters have convinced their wives that
life without them is simply not possible; that there is no other possible
man for them but him. getting out of these relationships becomes difficult
or even seemingly impossible... seemingly. all enslavement begins by
teaching the enslaved beings that slavery is by far the preferred choice for
them, if not the only choice.

usually on a much smaller scale of intensity, these churches work the same
way. people often come to them when their spiritual and mental bodies
(sometimes physical as well) are in as sorrowful a condition as the battered
wife. i've attended various fundamentalist churches without indicating the
full range of my beliefs, and can state from first-hand experience that you
can get a very strong "love" hit when you go there. this is an undeniable
fact, and you can prove it for yourself, though i don't recommend it.

in fact, in one case a preacher was saying a prayer that was totally
channeled, and every now and then you could hear his ego kick in and disrupt
the channeling by going into a sentence or two of standard, rote dogma about
the blood of jesus before he'd give himself up to the flow again and
continue to utter words of immaculate purity. back and forth, back and
forth, a mostly positive channel (who doesn't even realize what he is doing)
who is continually tainting the message to the needs of the ego.

in a loose sense it reminded me of a freestyle rap music artist who can get
long passages of material straight from the mind, and breaks it up with
standard "licks" of filler material in between. (freestyle rappers can go
for minutes on end producing rhyming verse that is totally original and
improvised... but most of them have an armada of pre-planned statements that
they use to keep the "flow" going, just like the preacher i mentioned...

i know, because back in college i "dueled" another freestyle rapper in a
club and actually "won." (one of the few times i've ever been in a club.) it
was late at night, with an awesome funk drumbeat and real syncopated,
delicious, groovin', movin' bassline... i had already been sober for two
years and could keep spilling out rhyming, rhythmic god-conscious,
non-offensive verse at breakneck speed without slipping up or repeating
myself. i was amazed to hear all this pouring out of myself, as i had never
tried to do it before. the other guy kept running out of steam and falling
back on pre-planned material. at the time i didn't realize how i was getting
the information, i just knew that as long as i concentrated very hard, it
would keep coming... :)

so yes... you can go to these churches and be "fed..." but it comes at a
heavy price. fundamentalist churches use all the standard cult tactics for
behavior modification and "brainwashing," though most of them don't realize
it. how is this done? read on...

cult brainwashing involves building your followers up slowly with a
foundation of teachings, then raising them to a state of supreme spiritual
euphoria, and then right in that moment hitting them with a statement that
ties together all the loose ends that you've been dripping in a little at a
time. pow!

now this final statement usually is the "hardest sell" of the whole
discourse; it is the statement that will eventually convince that person to
trade the love that they have received from almost everyone else in the
world (the woman in the grocery store, man at the gas station, family and
friends, etc.) for the love they are feeling in that moment. it emphasizes
the lack of love that they have felt from all others up until that moment
and aggrandizes the superiority of the love that they are now receiving. it
is the statement that makes them feel that 'everyone else is wrong' and now
they must completely commit themselves body, mind and spirit to the group.
remember that the cult leader wants them to believe that everyone else in
the world, including their friends and family, are "outside" the "chosen"
circle unless they are also a part of the group.

remember, now, all this gets started because the person feels extreme guilt,
and in their group they are told that they cannot and should not try to
forgive themselves for what they "did." instead, they must surrender their
resistance and turn over all their spiritual, mental and physical
(financial) power to the group. even though they believe that they are
worshipping jesus, or the heavenly father (who is above jesus in the
standard trinity view,) what they are actually doing is worshipping the
group, worshipping the pastor as proxy and spokesman for jesus, and
worshipping a set of beliefs. instead of worshipping god, they worship their
beliefs! think about it. this should remind us of most scientists as well,
since it is the exact same phenomenon, only in a different category.

so again, they feel that they cannot forgive themselves. therefore, their
only option was to adhere to the belief that they could be 'washed by the
blood of the lamb' so that jesus' death 2000 years ago "paid the ransom" for
their "sins." this is by far the most egregious (=grotesque) distortion of
modern christianity; the idea that simply saying "i accept christ" can
eliminate any further engagement in the personal healing and initiation
process, and that by such a statement the road to heaven is totally paved,
and in one fell swoop you've "gone the distance." christ's teachings focused
so much on self-responsibility and that has been almost hopelessly lost. why
did he insist on calling himself "the son of man" instead of the son of god?
most people do not actually read the bible; they read small excerpts from
the bible that are heavily laced with spin-controlled context from the head
of their group.

but is it truly impossible to relieve your own guilt from within, contrary
to cult dogma? yes. to forgive yourself is to claim your own divine power
without a proxy, and accept yourself. to accept yourself is to become the
creator, to realize what you already are. this is standard ra teaching:
"forgive yourself, accept yourself, become the creator." to make that step
of "claiming the i am" is to dig deep within the self until the realization
comes that you are the "one" ***in the same way that everyone and everything
else is the one***... and thereby you must forgive yourself to receive god's
forgiveness. in a universe of oneness there is no other selfhood but
oneness!

so again, the fundamentalist viewpoint creates a unique distortion, where
the person fully believes and is told in their sunday services that their
own self-forgiveness is impossible; they were born in "original sin" and are
automatically condemned. (yes, i know, folks, this is such tired old stuff,
but some people do still believe it!) the idea of "original sin" is only a
gloss for people's subconscious self-condemnation of their own "original
sins" earlier in their life, before their "pentecost;" we could call it
"original guilt." since they are categorically denied access to god by their
innate "sin" from the very foundation of humankind, (and subconsciously
denied access to god from their own self-condemnation,) their "ticket to
heaven" hinges only on the divine forgiveness that they feel has been
granted through their belief structure.

(yes, it sounds a little complex. sorry. i'm sure others here would be glad
to round out this whole set of concepts... but for now we'll keep on
explaining it. :)

you can't self-forgive if you're automatically a sinner, with jesus as the
only passageway out of "the lake of fire" where you'll "burn for all
eternity" after your death! (they truly believe this is real and i've had
clients who, as children, were shown vicious, realistic propaganda / horror
films of people supposedly burning alive! really!)

so if you are one of these people, then realize that your apparently
automatic condemnation before god (which is only your mirror for your own
self-condemnation) places *absolute importance* upon the integrity and
inherent "rightness" of your group's belief structure, and their particular,
narrow interpretation of jesus -- the specific definition of god that they
believe to have forgiven them. (this has almost nothing to do with jesus the
son of man, as he insisted that he be called!) thus, you will vigorously
seek out and "fight" those who would challenge their definition of god, as
we have seen on our board.

those who have read percival's "thinking and destiny" (are you listening
korga?... :) will know that these groups do indeed build up thought-form
'gods' that are constantly warring with each other and are essentially
negative beings. the more they hate and condemn others, feel incessant fear,
worry and guilt and seek to aggrandize themselves and their group, the more
they feed the negative beings with power, which in turn gives them more
worldly power. this in turn will eventually lead to holy wars and all other
events that fractionalize and splinter the group consciousness of humanity.

here we are one planet amongst millions of other inhabited planets just in
this galaxy, and yet we have so many different groups, and each one of them
is completely convinced that they are correct. yet, if god is one then we
should honor each person's path as completely legitimate... which is exactly
what ra does. some might work more quickly than others but all are
ultimately sacramental in their own right, as everyone and everything is
god. this is the message that the extraterrestrials bring us for today.

in the fundamentalist / cult brainwashing scenario, true oneness is
impossible, because their specific definition of god and all the "rules"
that go with it is required to be correct, or that person's entire
understanding of personal "salvation" (which short-circuits their
participation in self-forgiveness) would appear to be destroyed. and they've
worked and chewed on these concepts so many times in their minds that
they've got very little left to hold onto in the aftermath; not all are
lucky enough to have a sympathetic friend who can ease their transition out
of the cult and into a more open form of spirituality.

so, should this definition of god be successfully challenged, enough so that
it causes them to rethink some of their positions, (dw: "there is no
judgment in this process... it does not matter what faith you are... your
own self-responsibility is the most important thing... your vibration is
solely determined by how much you are willing to be of service to others")
then they face the possibility of having to forgive themselves, of
processing their own guilt from within instead of from without. this feels
quite immediately distasteful, is not seen as remotely possible, and
triggers the most bitter, venomous reactions, as we have now seen.

hence, their entire guilt over their own past is challenged when their
belief structure is challenged. at the deepest level, this inability to face
the self is what then motivates them to enslave others. how do they try to
enslave others? by making emphatic statements regarding the inherent
correctness of their ideological constructs of faith, and blanket
condemnations of all remaining worldviews. such letters are not written for
no reason; they seek to "save" (read: enslave) whatever number of the 200 or
more souls on this list who they feel might be willing to pay homage to
their own thought-form god, constructed on a complex foundation of specific,
isolationist belief patterns. (never minding that the vast majority of folks
have joined this list because of their love for the work on the asc2k
website, and the legacy of the universal one or christ spirit... :)

let's observe a bit more of how the negative polarity worked through this
largely innocent and unsuspecting human participant. that very suppressed
guilt, which is theoretically alleviated by jesus's blood, continues to grow
and gnaw within as a very real force that causes the person to lash out at
others. being "saved" is never enough... but the cults don't give much past
that initial "boarding pass." now in this letter, the pain has been freshly
aggravated by the nyc / mother's day incident and by wilcock's bold
articulation of concepts that are too freeing for the existing dogma to hold
up under. once the venom rises enough to allow the lash-out to occur, then
the negative polarity has the perfect gateway through which to act. (see
section 7 of the ra study guide on negative beings.)

remember that the negative beings are doing this constantly, and most people
are never, ever aware of how they are participating in allowing negative
"psychic attacks" to work through them. all along they feel that it is
totally their own free will, not realizing that the negative beings
specialize in finding cases where you choose to enslave others through your
own free will... and then they give you a massive boost of energy to go as
far with it as you can go. (also remember that what we're doing with this
work is a very high priority for negative attack, due to the possibility
that it could increase the harvest in the short time remaining on earth
before that event occurs.)

so now we're into a deeper level of how this person so clearly articulated
the basic premises of a negatively-oriented psychic attack. in the letter,
notice the summoning of someone named "byron" who is apparently another
group member and has a ph.d. such reverence for graduate-level education
seems to indicate that the being considers this person to be "more
important" than the combined voice of most others on this list. am i wrong?
this person, coupled with jesus, is full armor! remember? this being now
calling itself barb is at war! (and we are the mirror of this war within the
being... and therefore should feel compassion in our responses and not
indulge in the same energy.)

then, with the appropriate forces summoned, as seen in the statement "donned
with the full armor, i tend to like to "spy" (...) on the enemy...," the
being throws out feelers and creates the sense that they've formed some sort
of "corral" around the group (read: enslaved the group) and are closing in
for the kill...

wilcock is a nazi! you're all going to "hell!" now we've got you! (but alas,
we might be willing to let a few of you sheep out of the corral to "save"
(read: enslave) you... if you are willing to accept that we are always and
forever correct and no one else will ever be. but you can't run with our
crew until you realize that you were already condemned all this time
(original sin,) you just never knew it before now!)

you may need to read over this section number two a few times to understand
this final statement, and if you don't get it then you're probably not ready
to get it:

deep, inner, un-acknowledged self-hatred is the motivating factor that leads
fundamentalists to attack more open-minded folks. a unique situation has
been created where they feel that if their faith is incorrect, then their
own 'sins' are too awesome to permit them to make further spiritual progress
into higher planes. thus, they believe that their entire soul evolution
requires their faith to be correct. otherwise, they feel that they are in a
lot of trouble, as long ago they had concluded that no one but jesus could
forgive them, including themselves. remember. this is how they really feel.
no jokes.

therefore, if wilcock is anything but a nazi, then they feel they are in a
lot of trouble. let's again remind ourselves of ra's statement of the
"melting influence of love." if we choose not to love and accept ourselves,
we can keep on incarnating in third-density indefinitely, continually
handing over our power to proxies who will tell us that we're already there.
all the while, what we've really needed is to simply accept and forgive
ourselves for all that we have "done" in the past... and in that moment, we
overcome self-hatred, which in turn allows us to be able to love and accept
others as ourselves.

so all that was number 2 on our list of comments that were made, and
subsequent analyses. so let's move on now to numbers 3 and 4, remembering
that our focus was on pointing out the obvious despair that this being is
feeling, showing us how we can have better compassion for this being and
helping to explain some of the fine points of philosophy that are required
to understand this information:

3. the letter states that the vibrational upgrade is a 'lurch forward.' such
a statement shows this being's feelings of despair over the process itself,
thus placing the emphasis on the difficulty and pain that would appear to be
involved. if we choose to focus on the difficulty and pain, then we can see
as much of it as we choose; fear and depression is a pit that knows no
bottom. the secret is that it is entirely a free-will decision to
participate in fear, worry and guilt! the extraterrestrials teach trust in
this process.

4. this letter betrays this being's open, blatant categorization of the
souls on this list as the "enemy"... despite jesus' teachings to "turn the
other cheek" and "love your enemies". that sad statement right there, in and
of itself, indicates that this being is not yet ready for the fourth
density, though this certainly could change in the time remaining. you want
to join jesus' team? practice unconditional love. service to others is not
conditional. you should rejoice that such material as the "time of global
shift" seminar exists, as it proves that this cherished christian event is,
in fact, real, from a scientific perspective that no longer requires "blind
faith!"

as many sources insist that this ascension event will occur in waves, we
have been told that there will be many fundamentalists who will quite
obviously see that the first wave has passed and realize that they were not
a part of it. these cult-indoctrinated beliefs run so deeply that the person
is capable of completely hating and villainizing the outside world, thus
standing in complete opposition to the most basic "graduation requirements,"
and yet completely believe that they are among "god's chosen people." this
will create quite a surprise when they realize that they missed something
big... and we have already been told that this will occur.

so to summarize, for one who has studied the teachings on the
ascension2000.com website, they know that the christ spirit is strongly
revered. the very first link at the top of the page, "opening quotes," has a
number of biblical statements and many of the readings in the archives
mention the christ spirit, christ consciousness and christ within, and yes,
jesus; this would be easily seen if, that is, the person is willing to take
the time to find out. furthermore, edgar cayce, the primary inspiration for
this work, was a christian sunday school teacher, a devout (yes,
fundamentalist) christian who gradually came to accept the message from his
readings.

anyone who reads "the shift of the ages" far enough will see cayce's
categorization of jesus as being the primary spiritual leader for this
earth, having been "the first and last adam" as it says in the bible,
meaning that he has been through many incarnations from amilius, who is the
adam of the bible -- the first person to come in to try to help the enslaved
human race, to jesus, the first person to ascend and clear the pathway for
the remainder of the enslaved human race to realize that such an ascension
is indeed possible. further analysis of the cayce readings indicates that
jesus had other pivotal incarnations including thothermes trismestigus, (see
chapter 15 of convergence iii near the end,) zend the father of zoroaster,
enoch, melchizedek and more...

many, many, many times wilcock and other contributors to this site have
written that we are all to follow the "christ pattern" and experience our
own "crucifixion of the ego" which comes about through facing the parts of
ourselves that we did not yet integrate (father let this cup pass from me)
and finally accepting god's will (not my will, o father-mother god, but thy
will be done.) only once we accept god's will as our own and overthrow the
"monkey mind" of the ego do we realize the resurrection / ascension process.

jesus was the first to do this, but we've probably pointed out100 different
times that jesus said, "as i do these things, so shall ye do them, and
greater things, for i go unto my father [i accept god's will instead of my
own.]" (john 14:12.) jesus is not the last to have done this. he
categorically states that you will do the same things that he did... if you
can accept god's will for yourself, within yourself, by forgiveness and
acceptance, by handing over your personal ego motivations to those of the
christ within. god does not want you to fractionalize and divide your fellow
beings into categorized, labeled groups! just love them! ok?

the one statement more than any other that has created the fundamentalist
christian distortions is "i am the truth, the way and the life... no one can
come unto the father but by me." as wilcock's readings have stated at least
three or four different times, this is the i am presence or christ presence
within each person that is speaking; what ra calls the higher self. no one
can return to the oneness without accepting god's will, as manifested in
their own inner christ. the same christ that awakened in jesus must awaken
in everyone.

so in this letter we now have some cards on the table regarding our
spiritual intentions, through the narrow fisheye lens of this discussion
group... which may or may not have any direct bearing on the work featured
on the ascension2000 website (hopefully it does.) bearing that context in
mind, let's go back to the letter's core statements.

let's remember that we have an angry fundamentalist christian being on our
hands who will vigorously defined its precise view of god. then, in a
previous posting, wilcock mentions one word from nietzsche in a passing
joke, later followed by a (very loose!) conjunction with statements about
fundamentalists striving in vain to "convert" him, then someone else
mentions "nazi" and boom!

"wilcock is a nazi!"

now the being has "seen" what it wants to see and mixed this
hastily-concocted "recipe" together to form a non-existent case. no one on
the list will take this seriously, and the statement in reality only
externalizes the inner turmoil and grief of this being for naked public
viewing. then when the others on this group attack and dish back the same
meal from the opposite side, the being's despair is only further increased,
its desire to promulgate the cult only further enhanced. so let's again
think about the wisdom in "there is no such thing as an emotionally charged
situation; either be of service or withdraw."

this is a being in pain. remember this. let's curb our tongues and surround
this being with light, that it may seek greater faith and trust in the
spiritual process now unfolding on the earth at this time. for most
third-density beings, earth changes are scary. economic collapse is scary.
school shootings, war, et cetera, is scary. the spiritual forces are not
trying to scare us by telling us what experiences still remain in the short
time that we have left; and let us not forget that the bible has some of the
"scariest" depictions of the time that we are now in that you will find in
any spiritual literature!

ultimately we must realize that it is our choice to feel fear, and there are
negative beings out there who will feed on any fear energy that we produce.
if you want to call them "demons" that is your choice, again... but that
term is also a distortion, as they too will eventually return to the oneness
after a prolonged struggle with healing their original separation from god.

when dr. mandelker and i presented this information on the air, it wasn't
easy material to digest; we're at a point now when many changes will be
coming very swiftly, and we will have to experience them. if we choose fear
then we will go through these changes with more trauma than if we choose
trust... and now more than ever we need to foster a cooperative attitude so
that we can harmoniously integrate with others in our own local areas as
that need manifests itself.

there is not much time left for things to stay the way they are... and we're
not going to be able to turn the clock back on this one. yes, a part of me
doesn't want to see it or go through it either... but we must keep reminding
ourselves that god is our source, not a job, not a government, not a social
structure, not a car, not a grocery store, but god. we will need to draw
upon that resource more than ever for strength and calmness in the times
immediately ahead.

so to return to the core issue that started this letter, which is an
ad-hominum attack on wilcock and those who participate in this group:

it is always and forever a free-will decision on behalf of anyone to read
the website, to join and participate on the list, to peruse our media
appearances and the like. this makes it categorically impossible to "spy" on
any of this work, as it is open to all; spying is primarily defined as "the
covert viewing of deliberately concealed information." and unlike the vast
majority of guests on the art bell show, there is no monetary exchange
required for you to know the cards in this deck; they're all laid out there,
nothing has been withheld that can only be found in a paid form.

so live and let live. be friendly to us, or we'll ask you to leave, as we
really don't need this type of a letter. i'll close with dr. fritz perls'
"gestalt prayer:"

you do your thing, and i'll do my thing.

i am not in this world to live up to your expectations

and you are not in this world to live up to mine.

you are you, and i am i,

and if by chance we meet, it's beautiful.

and if not, it can't be helped.
___

i rest my case.

peace be with you -

- david

Jeremy Weiland
05-09-2001, 06:25 PM
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><font size="2">hello peeps!</font>
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><font size="2"> not sure if i should be responding to this, as i am most definately not a new member :-) however, there were some things to which i wanted to respond. </font>
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><font size="2"> first of all, i am psyched that david is a rapper!!! wilcock droppin lyrical bombs on the crowd! lol! major cool! i've been getting into a rap group called jurassic 5... they are all about old school, positive beats without being goody goody, and they are all about improvisation. their djs spin a over 5 min long "swing" era set at the end of their debut album, "quality control." i had been thinking that rap had been completely sold out and commercialized since the old skool days... so between this revelation and disclosure, today has been a good day.</font>
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><font size="2">second of all, i just wanted to reiterate that i don't think you should follow nietzsche's teachings! i have read some stuff about him but that is it... i'm definately not an expert, nor do i support nihilism at all. i'm a "big picture" person (intj personality type :-) and get kicks out of finding little bits of (what i perceived as) truth hidden in culture everywhere... which is why i posted those quotes. plusany philosopher will tell you that nietzsche is misunderstood... so hopefully this will be the last post about nietzsche!!!!!! lol</font>
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><font size="2"> thirdly, i want to complement david and scott on their wonderful presentation on art bell. i just heard it today and it was great. as i read thru this letter (it took you only one whole day to write? :-) and heard your explanation of the asc2k ideas on ab, the great strides that your flow of thought and organization of ideas through speech and writing really struck me. it was so much different than that first "take-in" interview that we had, when you were describing everything to me on the phone. congratulations! your speaking and writing skills can only excel now, and i was quite proud to hear such a logical and coherent presentation of these very dear ideas. keep up the great work.</font>
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><font size="2"> about the ab show, you mention the attacks and also how you had to "know" what ab wanted... as far as the attacking goes, didn't you know this was coming? talk show hosts are paid to create lively, controversial shows that captivate the audience, and while i was quite pleased and surprised how much room ab gave you to explain the concepts (without interruption!), surely you must have been prepared to "back it up." i think you answered his questions well, and he was obviously impressed (we could tell b/c he shut up!). the only thing i noticed is that you go into a lot of detail when you answer a question of his; the logical, organizational flow is there, but sometimes it is a slow flow. the detail and meticulous source quoting is quite neccessary in a print form, but might be a bit redundant for a radio audience. just a suggestion - you're appearance was terriffic!</font>
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><font size="2"> as for barb's email to the list, i sincerely thought that she madea mistake in sending that email to the list... why would someone send to the list a letter that looks like it's only addressed to one person (dr. byron), and that furthermore trashes the list incessantly? i'll grant you, i was angry at first, but i edited my response a few times before sending it. i tried to engender a sense that, even though she did not agree with us, i would be happy to explain where we are coming from. i did not see her post as an attack, but rather, a mistake. given that, although she did admit to spying (and that did anger me), i did do my best to "laugh it off" and let her know that we were not a hateful group and were open to her difference of opinion.</font>
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><font size="2"> obviously, david interpreted this letter differently than i. perhaps he is right; this *was* an attempt to "stab and retreat." but, in my opinion, i don't think that analyzing someone who we only know through a few lines of email is very wise. maybe if i was a psychology major, i'd feel differently (you can blame all that nietzsche stuff on my german major!) but how does analyzing a person in public help that person? i certainly acknowledge you and anyone's right to do it, but what does that solve? i think the points you make about fundamentalism are good, but on their own merit, without having to publicly (and remotely) deconstruct a person's psyche - like you said, we all were able to brush this attack off pretty easily. i certainly am not saying your analysis was factually or logically wrong. was the point of the whole analysis to explain what barb is going thru and to help us feel compassion for her? </font>
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><font size="2"> we disagree with this woman. she has her path. we all already do respect that - so why go to the trouble of explaining why we're "better" than her? don't get me wrong - i know *you* don't think this. but if she read your whole email, what would she think? like i said in my reply to her, i would much rather her know what we're talking about and think we're wrong than have no idea what we're about, and still think we're wrong.</font>
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><font size="2"> anyway, it's not too big of a deal in the scheme of things, just wanted to share my reaction. i certainly don't want to take more of your time, david, by forcing you to reply to this - just wanted to give feedback on some points. loving ciii - your explanation of "scalar waves" is the first i have ever understood!!! i'm looking forward to really sinking my teeth into it this summer, now that my time off work is "my" time - not homework time.</font>
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><font size="2"> guess i'll get back to reading ciii...</font>
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><font size="2"> take care,</font>
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><font size="2"> jeremy</font>
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><font size="2"> p.s. never followed news about the pope much, but from what you're saying about his reconciliation with the muslims, he really is trying to make a worthy effort at uniting the religions in peace. i also read he's trying to reconcile with the eastern orthodox church. they're not too receptive, yet. he must feel very strongly about these efforts, since he's obviously very determined (even in his deteriorating physical condition).</font>
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><font face="arial" size="2">-----original message-----
from: david wilcock <djw333@exis.net>
to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com <asc2k@yahoogroups.com>
date: wednesday, may 09, 2001 7:18 pm
subject: [asc2k] a group overview, for new members - please read


<blockquote style="border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px"></font><tt>hello, fellow evolving god-beings,

this is definitely going to be a post worth reading, possibly useful for
publication on the "website guidelines for email discussion" section. it's
ended up taking me all day and has gone through a number of edits. let me
tackle the recent letter from barb, which obviously represents a minority
opinion, possibly a one-person minority, as it will illuminate some areas
for those of us who are new to this list. most defamatory / character
assaulting letters will not receive responses, and i am not going to give
any further energy to this discussion than what is presented herein. again,
experience will prove that this is not a pavlovian system where people
expect to tease a response out of me by broadstroke condemnations. as a
result of my innate spiritual freedom, nothing that anyone says or does will
hurt me or cause me to feel negative emotions.

(i wasn't always like this, but have worked the process since late last
december with great success! thank you korga! you were my catalyst, dear
friend, and we finally worked it out when i clarified the difference between
total ascension to the seventh or eighth "density" (which many ancient
eastern teachings have tried to instill, giving the being an opportunity to
have ascended abilities and traverse the higher realms at will) and "public"
ascension to the fourth density! there's nothing in my mind now except a
renewed desire to serve clearly, in this case by spending all day answering
this question.)

i will be more than happy to let stony silence stand in the future when such
posts are made and have others speak up instead. however, we're all learning
together, and some of us will naturally express some measure of return
hostility that might elicit positive feelings to the individual and group
mind, but nevertheless is unwarranted. (so far, it has not been enough to
get booted off the list, though... we're very forgiving, all learning
together and need to foster that "safe" atmosphere... :)

so with that, i'll post the original letter in its entirety for comparison
and analysis purposes:

"dearest byron,

"donned with the full armor, i tend to like to "spy" (for lack of a better
phrase) on the enemy. this group has me stumped. do you know what they are
talking about. i know it has something to do with what they think is the
"evolution" of the earth and the so called ascended masters - one of which
is maitreya - and the fact that all of us hateful believers of the one and
true jesus will not be involved in this lurch forward....

[note: before we ever go on any further, there is no mention of "maitreya"
anywhere on the ascension2000 site. in section two of the time of global
shift tour, ana rincon mentions that there is a buddhist prophecy regarding
the return of a "maitreya" that many believe is scheduled for the present
moment, and this is simply advanced as another data point to show the
cross-cultural focus on the time that we are now in as one of great
spiritual change. that's all we say. however, there is indeed a man who
seems to have claimed that he is a messiah, calls himself "maitreya" and is
obviously a confused, distorted and predominantly negative, power-seeking
being. the rest of the above arguments will be tackled later... but for now,
remember this quote that joe myers just mentioned to me on the phone:

jesus once said, "who made me a judge over my brother?"

think about that line if addressing someone from the "wwjd" (what would
jesus do) perspective. we'll deal with the "one and true jesus" line as we
go. and now, the rest of the letter:]

"they talk alot about nazis and nietzsche (do you have any clue what that
is???) i'm tryin' to understand this so i can be a proper "watchman":)

[note: nietzsche is a philosopher who you would learn about in any
introductory college philosophy class. his core "nihilistic" beliefs, as i
understand them, are extremely distorted and completely irrelevant to any
discussions on this list, though jeremy has studied them in a little more
detail than did i. my mention of him was in the context of a joke only, as
the archives show. this group has been around since some time last november,
i believe, and as others pointed out the last three emails had this thread
in some form out of a total of 600 or more, making it less than one half of
one percent of all emails.]

"did you hear about that school in nyc that has banned mother's day and
father's day in the name of political correctness???? my lord, come
quickly!

"love ya, doc,
barb"

let's not forget that even in naked silence, most of those on this group
have the discernment to see right where people are in their posts, and no
harm is done. that quote again returns: "it is the same to take offense as
it is to give offense." think about that statement and read the above letter
again. then think about that statement and read some of the rebuttals on the
list as well. this works both ways. to be the highest examples we can be, we
should demonstrate that we are unmoved by others' statements and simply
remain in a place of understanding and compassion for the sorrows of
third-density life and the never-ending ontological struggle of human being
searching for ultimate being, or "the search for god."

and being unmoved also means that we are unafraid to discuss any
participant's statements at the deepest, truest level, even if that
participant may feel quite insulted and not like what they see in the
aftermath. my response is intended to be a cogent reply to the leading
question, which was certainly not very loving to anyone except to dr. byron
___, who may or may not even be a member of this list, i'm not certain.
barb's letter is filled with judgments and attacks that demonstrate a very
brief, incomplete assessment of this material that most others here could
easily address, as has already been done with lightning speed! all are
automatically excluded in this letter except "the doc," with the emphasis on
his ph.d. further delineating the "us and them" mentality.

remember that to participate here by posting such comments is to **enter
statements for review by your own free will decision...** which may result
in some degree of *analysis of the messenger* that could prove embarassing
or even humiliating to the originating party. others should keep this in
mind; the people on this list possess deep wisdom and profound psychological
insight; so, what may start as a simple free-willed complaint could turn
into a "reading" of the soul's strengths and weaknesses. this is a forum...
and you should expect all manner of responses! it is your free will to
submit a "gift" to the group consciousness to be digested in this manner!

so if you have an adroit fondness for christianity (fundamentalist or
otherwise) and feel that all else is a distortion, then find a good church
near your home, attend bible study, join christian newsgroups and leave it
at that. you'll have all that you need for where you're at, and certainly
would not need to create the role of "watchman" for yourself and disrupt our
group harmony, carefully built up on wilcock and his contributors'
lifetime(s) of effort, (such as rod johnson's sequential physics,) now
freely given on the website. ra's suggestion that "if you can't be of
service, then withdraw" is perfect in light of this situation here.
condemning statements are almost never a service to others, except as a
means of enhancing the fidelity and communication of all those who feel
offended by the statements.

if you think that we're all mad as hatters, then recognize that one brief,
ill-tempered email rushed off without the proper background research of the
website (which admittedly would take at least a month or two, and i was only
on art bell one and three weeks ago, respectively) is not likely to be of
any service to us. furthermore, this judgmental statement has probably only
reinforced the majority's predisposed view of fundamentalist christians,
thus further insuring that others will not come to the "one and true jesus"
as per barb's definition.

i think that what prompted barb's letter (who may have already unsubscribed
by now, someone did, that tends to be the pattern, stab and retreat) is the
fact that, compared to other times in our history, we now have more than 200
folks on this list and very few of them have been compelled to write
anything. most likely, this has as much to do with myself as with anyone
else, as i've been working very busily to finish convergence iii and recover
from the all-night experience with ab recently. tomorrow i'm off to dc for
the next two phases of the disclosure conferences as an invited guest, so
now is a hectic time to say the least.

we're all busy. there's a lot of stuff to read on this website. the
vibrations are quickening. we're all feeling it. we're all going through it,
regardless of color or creed. i had a guy email me and try to tell me that
all our troubles are from "race mixing," and that was the only letter that i
didn't even honor with a brief answer, it was so flatly negative. i rented
and watched "bamboozled" by spike lee as an antidote, crying my eyes out at
the controversial ending as well as at other points. and a letter like this
is "religionist," only a few steps away from being "racist" and coming from
the same exclusionist attitudes.

in the past, when written letters (often those of a cursory or attacking
nature in particular) have triggered long litanies from me, (and all that
can be found within the archives) it tends to get things rolling.
controversy, coupled with my own participation, greases the gears to be
sure! unfortunately this becomes less and less likely of a prospect, as my
schedule is truly growing... i now am blessed with approximately triple the
email volume that i had prior to ab, with huge surges of 150&#43; a day at the
times i'm on the show. i'm working on that piece where "it's not
overwhelming if you don't choose it to be..." so now i've scaled back my
expectations and my letter-writers get smaller responses... much smaller.
most emails are multi-question, multi-page affairs, with single-sentence,
single-topic replies... :)

so as a result of this overall lack of group activity, even given the
enormous amount of personal email i have received, the new socio-political
developments and the final release of fifteen chapters of my
long-anticipated new book, the content of this group would appear to be
rather minimal.

[the socio-political developments include the pope officially endorsing
mutual forgiveness and acceptance of islam. have you watched the news
lately? go to http://www.cnn.com and see; he's actually saying "a salaam
aleiakum" (the god in me honors the god in you) and engaging in muslim
customs such as kissing the soil... (uh-oh... unity? cooperation? anything
but that! :) we're also seeing the "disclosure" event occurring right as i
write!]

so, despite these developments that should trigger discussion, if someone
had joined this list without really doing the 'homework,' which by necessity
would involve reading at least some of shift of the ages / convergence iii
and poring through the readings archives for things that look interesting,
then any assessment of the work would be characteristically myopic.

this list is intended as an augmentation for the study of the site, so that
as the questions and "stumpings" raised by the complex material on the
website come about, you can discuss them with others instead of simply
emailing wilcock, who is often way too overloaded to respond with anything
more than one-sentence gratuities as of late... and it's only going to get
worse. don't even ask how many people have been waiting patiently for
readings... we're still suspending all dream reading operations, (and
thereby all normal funding sources) until we can finish the entire book for
the public to read freely! :)

one can surmise that barb's comments originate from my desire not to exclude
art bell from the topics that dr. mandelker and myself were discussing. you
have to know your host, and in this case i've listened to enough shows to
know that art often goes into a mode where he starts "tuning out" when he's
dealing with guests who he really doesn't want to attack. what makes him
tune out? new age metaphysics and lingo, repetition of words like "god,"
christan bible-thumping, claims of channeling, et cetera. everyone tries to
grab the microphone and the podium and drop their own rant, while
consequently disregarding art's needs and desires as a host... james van
praagh didn't touch art's comment "i'm not so sure about the christian view
of god" with a ten-foot pole! otherwise, he did a great job!

however, if art feels that his guests can take it, then he will attack. he
did this with us by making the comment, "now you can say whatever you want,
but i want to say this. everybody talks about how great this (ascension) is
going to be... but it's going to turn us all into hamburger! poof! all we
know for certain is that we're all going to die, right?" i had to then
explain, in detail, a case for why these higher electromagnetic fields we
are now experiencing will produce a transmutation of the physical body into
a higher state of energetic vibration. for other examples of art attacking
his guests, take the first two appearances that hoagland had with art after
he returned to the radio. the second show with eugene mallove on free energy
was especially intense, as far as conflict goes. usually art is not as
blatant in his critiques as what i encountered with laura lee, but art can
certainly dish it out.

so 'know your host.' what does that mean? my host said, just less than a
week prior to when i was on the air with him, that he had "some serious
problems with the christian idea of god." so many people get on this show
and essentially end up using art... they get the microphone and deliver
their two cents' worth, and they really haven't studied him or learned his
character traits. they're inevitably quick to market their wares in the
hopes of making gobs and gobs of money (which by the way is far less likely
to happen then they think it will be; after all, there's a new guest every
night and the net provides unlimited information gratification.)

at the fellowship church that i attend here in virginia beach and have
spoken at, the same thing happens. people do sunday services and they never
attend otherwise; they don't really know the congregation's attitudes,
emotions and needs, and in some cases they deliver sermons that have little
or nothing to do with where the group-mind is at. nevertheless, they're
satisfied within themselves (often visibly so) at delivering what they think
the word of god really is.

so, by honoring art's needs, i directly addressed his previous statements,
showing that i wanted him to be beside us as we continued forward and i was
sensitive to his own concerns. there is no judgment in saying that humans
innately anthropomorphize god, imbuing their idea of god with human
qualities; it is very easily seen.

my key point is this: for millions of inhabited planets in one galaxy alone,
with an infinity of galaxies that have never been determined to have an
ending point, can we ever even begin to tackle these "ultimate questions"
with anything but humility, reverence and awe, along with a completely open
mind? as maurice chatelain said in his book, "can we really imagine that
every planet in the universe is required to have jesus arrive, be crucified
and resurrected, in order to insure their ongoing spiritual welfare?"
especially in light of the ancient civilizations that we now know of on
earth alone!

now turning our focus away from the cosmic and back to the local, we have
someone who listened that night and was compelled to join this group,
probably as a result of being angered by this comment. to get right down to
the core of this issue, there's a lot of pain in someone who would write a
letter like this, and we can feel compassion for that fact. simple
psychology shows that this being feels an increasing loss of control in its
environment, and a consequent feeling of despair. let's review the issues:

1. the letter expresses regret over the "loss" of mother and father's day in
one single school in one single city. ("did you hear about that school in
nyc that has banned mother's day and father's day in the name of political
correctness????") this demonstrates a focus on the apparent importance of
human social conventions, while not realizing that god is not contained in
mother's day or father's day; god is far too vast to ever be confined to a
holiday, or a definition, or a religious sect. you could lose all the
holidays under a completely despotic, dictatorial government and god is
unmoved.

one school within one city changing its policies is very, very transient in
light of the cosmic plan that is now unfolding before us. other planets have
had it far worse than ourselves; this harvest is actually relatively
positive and smooth compared to other "borg"-type situations where the
negative polarity is the dominant force involved. we're already nearly three
years outside of the worst-case scenario probabilities for our future that
were seen by cayce only 60 years ago; 1998 came and went without a hitch,
though we could have had the complete loss of california and a polar shift
already by this point.

however, to a being that is feeling overwhelmed by the "illusion" of life in
our current plane, the adaptation or elimination of human cultural
conventions (such as holidays) can appear very distressing. if this is the
case, then such beings will only find themselves growing more and more
desperate as these months proceed. very little of the current order will
remain before the shift itself, and we're now way past the point where any
thinking person can deny it; if they live in california they don't have
lights for the second day in a row today, including traffic lights, and like
chicago, they will be paying $3.00 a gallon for gasoline within another two
months or less. this is real.

but all the above that i've just said is nothing; it's a snow job; it's only
answering the external statement without the internal pain. the real issue
is much deeper, should be obvious, and is one that we should all have
compassion for. possibly as a mother, but even more deeply and
subconsciously as the divine feminine (or goddess spirit) of the earth at
this time, this being is feeling a lack of love, a lack of respect for who
and what it is. now is not the time right before father's day, it is the
time right before mother's day. and this points to where the real pain is.
this letter is a cry for help, in many ways similar to the intentions of a
suicide note. it would undoubtedly draw stinging fire in almost all cases,
thus emphasizing the suicidal quality to it.

woman, goddess, mother, we love you. we respect you. we honor you. we revere
you. we know that most human beings on this planet have gotten caught up in
the patriarchal structures; that is all changing now. in the past you had a
total matriarchal system, and we now know from experience that this didn't
work either. unity is, and always has been, the key.

take the words from dr. neil peart, ph.d. psychology, drummer and songwriter
for the band "rush." he touches on this male-female archetypal struggle so
beautifully, calling it the battle between love and reason, associating it
with the right and left hemispheres of the brain (the album is called
hemispheres.)

peart uses greek mythology to make his point. apollo is the god associated
with the feminine / love / right brain archetype, and dionysus is associated
with the masculine / reason / left brain archetype. cygnus is the god of the
greek mythos who came to unify the two perspectives of love and reason, and
at this point in the song they have finally heard his cry for unity:

"apollo was astonished,
dionysus thought me mad.
but they heard my story further,
and they wondered, and were sad.

looking down from olympus
on a world of doubt and fear,
it's surface splintered into
sorry hemispheres...

[guitar solo]

they sat a while in silence,
then they turned at last to me,
"we will call you cygnus,
the god of balance you shall be...""

then the reprise, a beautiful melody set to a very nice, very simple
strumming guitar track, really socks it home:

"we can walk our roads together,
if our goals are all the same.
we can run alone and free,
if we pursue a different aim.

let the truth of love be lighted;
let the love of truth shine clear;
sensibility,
armed with sense and liberty,
with our heard and mind united
in one single,
perfect,
sphere..."

if you love this album you'll know why there are tears in my eyes right now.
will we ever understand... (i guess i'm not yet transparent in
personality... :)

2. the stated desire for "my lord" to come quickly, coupled with the utterly
distorted sentence that "all of us hateful believers of the one and true
jesus will not be involved" contains a whale of a lot of hidden information
about the nature of its writer, and it will take us a number of paragraphs
to break it down. so before we go into the idea of the compartmentalization
of the infinitely vast oneness into something that is exclusive only to this
being, (through the use of the word "my",) let's begin by saying that this
statement implies that we've said that all fundamentalist christians are not
ready for harvest.

quite to the contrary, the only thing that matters for each person is
whether or not they have truly chosen to serve others, hence serving god. a
fundamentalist could certainly make this choice under those conditions with
sufficient purity, providing that they are not actively going around
proselytizing and attacking others. we've all heard every sect try to say
that their god is the only true god. if you serve this ultimate being,
oneness or "true" god by loving all others as yourself, then you have
applied the higher teachings.

you're here to make one simple choice... nothing else matters... will it be
manipulation, control and enslavement of others or love, care and support
for them? if you choose love and service to others then it must be
unconditional love. smile. be nice. be friendly. love people. treat the girl
at the grocery store and the man at the gas station with the respect they
deserve as fellow co-creators, no higher or lower than yourself. it is not
your responsibility to figure out whether they believe in jesus or not, or
to treat them any differently if they did than if they didn't. if you're not
doing that, then you're making the opposite choice, which is to manipulate
and enslave them. this should be simple enough, but for a number of reasons
having to do with negative interference, it is not.

wilcock's statements on art bell that "there is no judgment involved in this
[ascension] process" and "it truly does not matter what faith you are", that
"the only thing that matters is how much you have become a reflection of god
in your personal desire to serve others" sounds good enough to most new
agers... but to others it is completely explosive. such a statement can
certainly be disconcerting, even exasperating to those whose ego
consciousness is heavily invested in the idea of "being right" and thereby
asserting others as "being wrong." and as we go i'll explain exactly what i
mean by that.

my personal experience has proven time and time again that this entire
"religious" behavior complex originates from feelings of profound inner
guilt over the past, which in turn lead to the idea that an outside divine
force must "forgive" the being instead of that being taking the
responsibility to forgive itself. most people in these situations claim that
self-forgiveness is impossible, if you can get them into a candid and honest
discussion about it, which i have often done.

all too often i have heard born-agains and fundamentalists claim that their
'sins' are far too extreme for them to be able to ever forgive themselves.
they say this because *that is what they are taught in their worship
services.* i've gone and heard it myself. this teaching is what allows these
groups to enslave their members, convince them to pay extraordinarily high
tithes and attend services all throughout the week, not just on sundays. the
idea that it is impossible to forgive yourself comes from the negative
polarity, which ra claims is locally headed up by negative entities in
fourth and fifth density who originate from a star system in the orion
constellation. the negative polarity desires control and enslavement, and
"seeks the aggrandizement of self or of social organizations with which self
identifies."

forgive the stark analogy, but let's enter in a far more extreme and ugly
form of negative polarity enslavement for comparison. when you volunteer for
the suicide hotline, they show you these very shocking films where you see
the freshly-battered wife, replete with huge black and blue marks on her
face, going through an entrance interview for a shelter. the counselor says,
"you do acknowledge that he tried to kill you; he hit your head with the
back of his gun." she replies, "yes... but i still love him." sadly, it is
immediately evident that the person has completely handed over their own
power to an outside entity.

why did i use such a violent analogy? not because people have been
physically assaulted in these facilities... (ah, you say... but they have.
every week there's a new story about pastors drinking alcohol, abusing
tithes / donations "to god" for personal gain and accosting church members
sexually...) essentially, those wife-beaters have convinced their wives that
life without them is simply not possible; that there is no other possible
man for them but him. getting out of these relationships becomes difficult
or even seemingly impossible... seemingly. all enslavement begins by
teaching the enslaved beings that slavery is by far the preferred choice for
them, if not the only choice.

usually on a much smaller scale of intensity, these churches work the same
way. people often come to them when their spiritual and mental bodies
(sometimes physical as well) are in as sorrowful a condition as the battered
wife. i've attended various fundamentalist churches without indicating the
full range of my beliefs, and can state from first-hand experience that you
can get a very strong "love" hit when you go there. this is an undeniable
fact, and you can prove it for yourself, though i don't recommend it.

in fact, in one case a preacher was saying a prayer that was totally
channeled, and every now and then you could hear his ego kick in and disrupt
the channeling by going into a sentence or two of standard, rote dogma about
the blood of jesus before he'd give himself up to the flow again and
continue to utter words of immaculate purity. back and forth, back and
forth, a mostly positive channel (who doesn't even realize what he is doing)
who is continually tainting the message to the needs of the ego.

in a loose sense it reminded me of a freestyle rap music artist who can get
long passages of material straight from the mind, and breaks it up with
standard "licks" of filler material in between. (freestyle rappers can go
for minutes on end producing rhyming verse that is totally original and
improvised... but most of them have an armada of pre-planned statements that
they use to keep the "flow" going, just like the preacher i mentioned...

i know, because back in college i "dueled" another freestyle rapper in a
club and actually "won." (one of the few times i've ever been in a club.) it
was late at night, with an awesome funk drumbeat and real syncopated,
delicious, groovin', movin' bassline... i had already been sober for two
years and could keep spilling out rhyming, rhythmic god-conscious,
non-offensive verse at breakneck speed without slipping up or repeating
myself. i was amazed to hear all this pouring out of myself, as i had never
tried to do it before. the other guy kept running out of steam and falling
back on pre-planned material. at the time i didn't realize how i was getting
the information, i just knew that as long as i concentrated very hard, it
would keep coming... :)

so yes... you can go to these churches and be "fed..." but it comes at a
heavy price. fundamentalist churches use all the standard cult tactics for
behavior modification and "brainwashing," though most of them don't realize
it. how is this done? read on...

cult brainwashing involves building your followers up slowly with a
foundation of teachings, then raising them to a state of supreme spiritual
euphoria, and then right in that moment hitting them with a statement that
ties together all the loose ends that you've been dripping in a little at a
time. pow!

now this final statement usually is the "hardest sell" of the whole
discourse; it is the statement that will eventually convince that person to
trade the love that they have received from almost everyone else in the
world (the woman in the grocery store, man at the gas station, family and
friends, etc.) for the love they are feeling in that moment. it emphasizes
the lack of love that they have felt from all others up until that moment
and aggrandizes the superiority of the love that they are now receiving. it
is the statement that makes them feel that 'everyone else is wrong' and now
they must completely commit themselves body, mind and spirit to the group.
remember that the cult leader wants them to believe that everyone else in
the world, including their friends and family, are "outside" the "chosen"
circle unless they are also a part of the group.

remember, now, all this gets started because the person feels extreme guilt,
and in their group they are told that they cannot and should not try to
forgive themselves for what they "did." instead, they must surrender their
resistance and turn over all their spiritual, mental and physical
(financial) power to the group. even though they believe that they are
worshipping jesus, or the heavenly father (who is above jesus in the
standard trinity view,) what they are actually doing is worshipping the
group, worshipping the pastor as proxy and spokesman for jesus, and
worshipping a set of beliefs. instead of worshipping god, they worship their
beliefs! think about it. this should remind us of most scientists as well,
since it is the exact same phenomenon, only in a different category.

so again, they feel that they cannot forgive themselves. therefore, their
only option was to adhere to the belief that they could be 'washed by the
blood of the lamb' so that jesus' death 2000 years ago "paid the ransom" for
their "sins." this is by far the most egregious (=grotesque) distortion of
modern christianity; the idea that simply saying "i accept christ" can
eliminate any further engagement in the personal healing and initiation
process, and that by such a statement the road to heaven is totally paved,
and in one fell swoop you've "gone the distance." christ's teachings focused
so much on self-responsibility and that has been almost hopelessly lost. why
did he insist on calling himself "the son of man" instead of the son of god?
most people do not actually read the bible; they read small excerpts from
the bible that are heavily laced with spin-controlled context from the head
of their group.

but is it truly impossible to relieve your own guilt from within, contrary
to cult dogma? yes. to forgive yourself is to claim your own divine power
without a proxy, and accept yourself. to accept yourself is to become the
creator, to realize what you already are. this is standard ra teaching:
"forgive yourself, accept yourself, become the creator." to make that step
of "claiming the i am" is to dig deep within the self until the realization
comes that you are the "one" ***in the same way that everyone and everything
else is the one***... and thereby you must forgive yourself to receive god's
forgiveness. in a universe of oneness there is no other selfhood but
oneness!

so again, the fundamentalist viewpoint creates a unique distortion, where
the person fully believes and is told in their sunday services that their
own self-forgiveness is impossible; they were born in "original sin" and are
automatically condemned. (yes, i know, folks, this is such tired old stuff,
but some people do still believe it!) the idea of "original sin" is only a
gloss for people's subconscious self-condemnation of their own "original
sins" earlier in their life, before their "pentecost;" we could call it
"original guilt." since they are categorically denied access to god by their
innate "sin" from the very foundation of humankind, (and subconsciously
denied access to god from their own self-condemnation,) their "ticket to
heaven" hinges only on the divine forgiveness that they feel has been
granted through their belief structure.

(yes, it sounds a little complex. sorry. i'm sure others here would be glad
to round out this whole set of concepts... but for now we'll keep on
explaining it. :)

you can't self-forgive if you're automatically a sinner, with jesus as the
only passageway out of "the lake of fire" where you'll "burn for all
eternity" after your death! (they truly believe this is real and i've had
clients who, as children, were shown vicious, realistic propaganda / horror
films of people supposedly burning alive! really!)

so if you are one of these people, then realize that your apparently
automatic condemnation before god (which is only your mirror for your own
self-condemnation) places *absolute importance* upon the integrity and
inherent "rightness" of your group's belief structure, and their particular,
narrow interpretation of jesus -- the specific definition of god that they
believe to have forgiven them. (this has almost nothing to do with jesus the
son of man, as he insisted that he be called!) thus, you will vigorously
seek out and "fight" those who would challenge their definition of god, as
we have seen on our board.

those who have read percival's "thinking and destiny" (are you listening
korga?... :) will know that these groups do indeed build up thought-form
'gods' that are constantly warring with each other and are essentially
negative beings. the more they hate and condemn others, feel incessant fear,
worry and guilt and seek to aggrandize themselves and their group, the more
they feed the negative beings with power, which in turn gives them more
worldly power. this in turn will eventually lead to holy wars and all other
events that fractionalize and splinter the group consciousness of humanity.

here we are one planet amongst millions of other inhabited planets just in
this galaxy, and yet we have so many different groups, and each one of them
is completely convinced that they are correct. yet, if god is one then we
should honor each person's path as completely legitimate... which is exactly
what ra does. some might work more quickly than others but all are
ultimately sacramental in their own right, as everyone and everything is
god. this is the message that the extraterrestrials bring us for today.

in the fundamentalist / cult brainwashing scenario, true oneness is
impossible, because their specific definition of god and all the "rules"
that go with it is required to be correct, or that person's entire
understanding of personal "salvation" (which short-circuits their
participation in self-forgiveness) would appear to be destroyed. and they've
worked and chewed on these concepts so many times in their minds that
they've got very little left to hold onto in the aftermath; not all are
lucky enough to have a sympathetic friend who can ease their transition out
of the cult and into a more open form of spirituality.

so, should this definition of god be successfully challenged, enough so that
it causes them to rethink some of their positions, (dw: "there is no
judgment in this process... it does not matter what faith you are... your
own self-responsibility is the most important thing... your vibration is
solely determined by how much you are willing to be of service to others")
then they face the possibility of having to forgive themselves, of
processing their own guilt from within instead of from without. this feels
quite immediately distasteful, is not seen as remotely possible, and
triggers the most bitter, venomous reactions, as we have now seen.

hence, their entire guilt over their own past is challenged when their
belief structure is challenged. at the deepest level, this inability to face
the self is what then motivates them to enslave others. how do they try to
enslave others? by making emphatic statements regarding the inherent
correctness of their ideological constructs of faith, and blanket
condemnations of all remaining worldviews. such letters are not written for
no reason; they seek to "save" (read: enslave) whatever number of the 200 or
more souls on this list who they feel might be willing to pay homage to
their own thought-form god, constructed on a complex foundation of specific,
isolationist belief patterns. (never minding that the vast majority of folks
have joined this list because of their love for the work on the asc2k
website, and the legacy of the universal one or christ spirit... :)

let's observe a bit more of how the negative polarity worked through this
largely innocent and unsuspecting human participant. that very suppressed
guilt, which is theoretically alleviated by jesus's blood, continues to grow
and gnaw within as a very real force that causes the person to lash out at
others. being "saved" is never enough... but the cults don't give much past
that initial "boarding pass." now in this letter, the pain has been freshly
aggravated by the nyc / mother's day incident and by wilcock's bold
articulation of concepts that are too freeing for the existing dogma to hold
up under. once the venom rises enough to allow the lash-out to occur, then
the negative polarity has the perfect gateway through which to act. (see
section 7 of the ra study guide on negative beings.)

remember that the negative beings are doing this constantly, and most people
are never, ever aware of how they are participating in allowing negative
"psychic attacks" to work through them. all along they feel that it is
totally their own free will, not realizing that the negative beings
specialize in finding cases where you choose to enslave others through your
own free will... and then they give you a massive boost of energy to go as
far with it as you can go. (also remember that what we're doing with this
work is a very high priority for negative attack, due to the possibility
that it could increase the harvest in the short time remaining on earth
before that event occurs.)

so now we're into a deeper level of how this person so clearly articulated
the basic premises of a negatively-oriented psychic attack. in the letter,
notice the summoning of someone named "byron" who is apparently another
group member and has a ph.d. such reverence for graduate-level education
seems to indicate that the being considers this person to be "more
important" than the combined voice of most others on this list. am i wrong?
this person, coupled with jesus, is full armor! remember? this being now
calling itself barb is at war! (and we are the mirror of this war within the
being... and therefore should feel compassion in our responses and not
indulge in the same energy.)

then, with the appropriate forces summoned, as seen in the statement "donned
with the full armor, i tend to like to "spy" (...) on the enemy...," the
being throws out feelers and creates the sense that they've formed some sort
of "corral" around the group (read: enslaved the group) and are closing in
for the kill...

wilcock is a nazi! you're all going to "hell!" now we've got you! (but alas,
we might be willing to let a few of you sheep out of the corral to "save"
(read: enslave) you... if you are willing to accept that we are always and
forever correct and no one else will ever be. but you can't run with our
crew until you realize that you were already condemned all this time
(original sin,) you just never knew it before now!)

you may need to read over this section number two a few times to understand
this final statement, and if you don't get it then you're probably not ready
to get it:

deep, inner, un-acknowledged self-hatred is the motivating factor that leads
fundamentalists to attack more open-minded folks. a unique situation has
been created where they feel that if their faith is incorrect, then their
own 'sins' are too awesome to permit them to make further spiritual progress
into higher planes. thus, they believe that their entire soul evolution
requires their faith to be correct. otherwise, they feel that they are in a
lot of trouble, as long ago they had concluded that no one but jesus could
forgive them, including themselves. remember. this is how they really feel.
no jokes.

therefore, if wilcock is anything but a nazi, then they feel they are in a
lot of trouble. let's again remind ourselves of ra's statement of the
"melting influence of love." if we choose not to love and accept ourselves,
we can keep on incarnating in third-density indefinitely, continually
handing over our power to proxies who will tell us that we're already there.
all the while, what we've really needed is to simply accept and forgive
ourselves for all that we have "done" in the past... and in that moment, we
overcome self-hatred, which in turn allows us to be able to love and accept
others as ourselves.

so all that was number 2 on our list of comments that were made, and
subsequent analyses. so let's move on now to numbers 3 and 4, remembering
that our focus was on pointing out the obvious despair that this being is
feeling, showing us how we can have better compassion for this being and
helping to explain some of the fine points of philosophy that are required
to understand this information:

3. the letter states that the vibrational upgrade is a 'lurch forward.' such
a statement shows this being's feelings of despair over the process itself,
thus placing the emphasis on the difficulty and pain that would appear to be
involved. if we choose to focus on the difficulty and pain, then we can see
as much of it as we choose; fear and depression is a pit that knows no
bottom. the secret is that it is entirely a free-will decision to
participate in fear, worry and guilt! the extraterrestrials teach trust in
this process.

4. this letter betrays this being's open, blatant categorization of the
souls on this list as the "enemy"... despite jesus' teachings to "turn the
other cheek" and "love your enemies". that sad statement right there, in and
of itself, indicates that this being is not yet ready for the fourth
density, though this certainly could change in the time remaining. you want
to join jesus' team? practice unconditional love. service to others is not
conditional. you should rejoice that such material as the "time of global
shift" seminar exists, as it proves that this cherished christian event is,
in fact, real, from a scientific perspective that no longer requires "blind
faith!"

as many sources insist that this ascension event will occur in waves, we
have been told that there will be many fundamentalists who will quite
obviously see that the first wave has passed and realize that they were not
a part of it. these cult-indoctrinated beliefs run so deeply that the person
is capable of completely hating and villainizing the outside world, thus
standing in complete opposition to the most basic "graduation requirements,"
and yet completely believe that they are among "god's chosen people." this
will create quite a surprise when they realize that they missed something
big... and we have already been told that this will occur.

so to summarize, for one who has studied the teachings on the
ascension2000.com website, they know that the christ spirit is strongly
revered. the very first link at the top of the page, "opening quotes," has a
number of biblical statements and many of the readings in the archives
mention the christ spirit, christ consciousness and christ within, and yes,
jesus; this would be easily seen if, that is, the person is willing to take
the time to find out. furthermore, edgar cayce, the primary inspiration for
this work, was a christian sunday school teacher, a devout (yes,
fundamentalist) christian who gradually came to accept the message from his
readings.

anyone who reads "the shift of the ages" far enough will see cayce's
categorization of jesus as being the primary spiritual leader for this
earth, having been "the first and last adam" as it says in the bible,
meaning that he has been through many incarnations from amilius, who is the
adam of the bible -- the first person to come in to try to help the enslaved
human race, to jesus, the first person to ascend and clear the pathway for
the remainder of the enslaved human race to realize that such an ascension
is indeed possible. further analysis of the cayce readings indicates that
jesus had other pivotal incarnations including thothermes trismestigus, (see
chapter 15 of convergence iii near the end,) zend the father of zoroaster,
enoch, melchizedek and more...

many, many, many times wilcock and other contributors to this site have
written that we are all to follow the "christ pattern" and experience our
own "crucifixion of the ego" which comes about through facing the parts of
ourselves that we did not yet integrate (father let this cup pass from me)
and finally accepting god's will (not my will, o father-mother god, but thy
will be done.) only once we accept god's will as our own and overthrow the
"monkey mind" of the ego do we realize the resurrection / ascension process.

jesus was the first to do this, but we've probably pointed out100 different
times that jesus said, "as i do these things, so shall ye do them, and
greater things, for i go unto my father [i accept god's will instead of my
own.]" (john 14:12.) jesus is not the last to have done this. he
categorically states that you will do the same things that he did... if you
can accept god's will for yourself, within yourself, by forgiveness and
acceptance, by handing over your personal ego motivations to those of the
christ within. god does not want you to fractionalize and divide your fellow
beings into categorized, labeled groups! just love them! ok?

the one statement more than any other that has created the fundamentalist
christian distortions is "i am the truth, the way and the life... no one can
come unto the father but by me." as wilcock's readings have stated at least
three or four different times, this is the i am presence or christ presence
within each person that is speaking; what ra calls the higher self. no one
can return to the oneness without accepting god's will, as manifested in
their own inner christ. the same christ that awakened in jesus must awaken
in everyone.

so in this letter we now have some cards on the table regarding our
spiritual intentions, through the narrow fisheye lens of this discussion
group... which may or may not have any direct bearing on the work featured
on the ascension2000 website (hopefully it does.) bearing that context in
mind, let's go back to the letter's core statements.

let's remember that we have an angry fundamentalist christian being on our
hands who will vigorously defined its precise view of god. then, in a
previous posting, wilcock mentions one word from nietzsche in a passing
joke, later followed by a (very loose!) conjunction with statements about
fundamentalists striving in vain to "convert" him, then someone else
mentions "nazi" and boom!

"wilcock is a nazi!"

now the being has "seen" what it wants to see and mixed this
hastily-concocted "recipe" together to form a non-existent case. no one on
the list will take this seriously, and the statement in reality only
externalizes the inner turmoil and grief of this being for naked public
viewing. then when the others on this group attack and dish back the same
meal from the opposite side, the being's despair is only further increased,
its desire to promulgate the cult only further enhanced. so let's again
think about the wisdom in "there is no such thing as an emotionally charged
situation; either be of service or withdraw."

this is a being in pain. remember this. let's curb our tongues and surround
this being with light, that it may seek greater faith and trust in the
spiritual process now unfolding on the earth at this time. for most
third-density beings, earth changes are scary. economic collapse is scary.
school shootings, war, et cetera, is scary. the spiritual forces are not
trying to scare us by telling us what experiences still remain in the short
time that we have left; and let us not forget that the bible has some of the
"scariest" depictions of the time that we are now in that you will find in
any spiritual literature!

ultimately we must realize that it is our choice to feel fear, and there are
negative beings out there who will feed on any fear energy that we produce.
if you want to call them "demons" that is your choice, again... but that
term is also a distortion, as they too will eventually return to the oneness
after a prolonged struggle with healing their original separation from god.

when dr. mandelker and i presented this information on the air, it wasn't
easy material to digest; we're at a point now when many changes will be
coming very swiftly, and we will have to experience them. if we choose fear
then we will go through these changes with more trauma than if we choose
trust... and now more than ever we need to foster a cooperative attitude so
that we can harmoniously integrate with others in our own local areas as
that need manifests itself.

there is not much time left for things to stay the way they are... and we're
not going to be able to turn the clock back on this one. yes, a part of me
doesn't want to see it or go through it either... but we must keep reminding
ourselves that god is our source, not a job, not a government, not a social
structure, not a car, not a grocery store, but god. we will need to draw
upon that resource more than ever for strength and calmness in the times
immediately ahead.

so to return to the core issue that started this letter, which is an
ad-hominum attack on wilcock and those who participate in this group:

it is always and forever a free-will decision on behalf of anyone to read
the website, to join and participate on the list, to peruse our media
appearances and the like. this makes it categorically impossible to "spy" on
any of this work, as it is open to all; spying is primarily defined as "the
covert viewing of deliberately concealed information." and unlike the vast
majority of guests on the art bell show, there is no monetary exchange
required for you to know the cards in this deck; they're all laid out there,
nothing has been withheld that can only be found in a paid form.

so live and let live. be friendly to us, or we'll ask you to leave, as we
really don't need this type of a letter. i'll close with dr. fritz perls'
"gestalt prayer:"

you do your thing, and i'll do my thing.

i am not in this world to live up to your expectations

and you are not in this world to live up to mine.

you are you, and i am i,

and if by chance we meet, it's beautiful.

and if not, it can't be helped.
___

i rest my case.

peace be with you -

- david


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Aaron Elder
05-09-2001, 07:27 PM
wow what an opus of an email david. in reflecting on my reply i suppose i
have alot of residual anger toward christians i need to address. i would
like to apolgize to barb for getting wound up and winging that reply off the
top of my head.
aaron


>from: "david wilcock" <djw333@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=zbesgfl5bhzm_xxsncm4wa7lq5m-9mnjfqhgyh9jg5-mrk6m2vrnwgdzmthavpaekk_bjdmyxn4)>
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>subject: [asc2k] a group overview, for new members - please read
>date: wed, 9 may 2001 19:11:00 -0400
>
>hello, fellow evolving god-beings,
>
>this is definitely going to be a post worth reading, possibly useful for
>publication on the "website guidelines for email discussion" section. it's
>ended up taking me all day and has gone through a number of edits. let me
>tackle the recent letter from barb, which obviously represents a minority
>opinion, possibly a one-person minority, as it will illuminate some areas
>for those of us who are new to this list. most defamatory / character
>assaulting letters will not receive responses, and i am not going to give
>any further energy to this discussion than what is presented herein. again,
>experience will prove that this is not a pavlovian system where people
>expect to tease a response out of me by broadstroke condemnations. as a
>result of my innate spiritual freedom, nothing that anyone says or does
>will
>hurt me or cause me to feel negative emotions.
>
>(i wasn't always like this, but have worked the process since late last
>december with great success! thank you korga! you were my catalyst, dear
>friend, and we finally worked it out when i clarified the difference
>between
>total ascension to the seventh or eighth "density" (which many ancient
>eastern teachings have tried to instill, giving the being an opportunity to
>have ascended abilities and traverse the higher realms at will) and
>"public"
>ascension to the fourth density! there's nothing in my mind now except a
>renewed desire to serve clearly, in this case by spending all day answering
>this question.)
>
>i will be more than happy to let stony silence stand in the future when
>such
>posts are made and have others speak up instead. however, we're all
>learning
>together, and some of us will naturally express some measure of return
>hostility that might elicit positive feelings to the individual and group
>mind, but nevertheless is unwarranted. (so far, it has not been enough to
>get booted off the list, though... we're very forgiving, all learning
>together and need to foster that "safe" atmosphere... :)
>
>so with that, i'll post the original letter in its entirety for comparison
>and analysis purposes:
>
>"dearest byron,
>
>"donned with the full armor, i tend to like to "spy" (for lack of a better
>phrase) on the enemy. this group has me stumped. do you know what they
>are
>talking about. i know it has something to do with what they think is the
>"evolution" of the earth and the so called ascended masters - one of which
>is maitreya - and the fact that all of us hateful believers of the one and
>true jesus will not be involved in this lurch forward....
>
>[note: before we ever go on any further, there is no mention of "maitreya"
>anywhere on the ascension2000 site. in section two of the time of global
>shift tour, ana rincon mentions that there is a buddhist prophecy regarding
>the return of a "maitreya" that many believe is scheduled for the present
>moment, and this is simply advanced as another data point to show the
>cross-cultural focus on the time that we are now in as one of great
>spiritual change. that's all we say. however, there is indeed a man who
>seems to have claimed that he is a messiah, calls himself "maitreya" and is
>obviously a confused, distorted and predominantly negative, power-seeking
>being. the rest of the above arguments will be tackled later... but for
>now,
>remember this quote that joe myers just mentioned to me on the phone:
>
>jesus once said, "who made me a judge over my brother?"
>
>think about that line if addressing someone from the "wwjd" (what would
>jesus do) perspective. we'll deal with the "one and true jesus" line as we
>go. and now, the rest of the letter:]
>
>"they talk alot about nazis and nietzsche (do you have any clue what that
>is???) i'm tryin' to understand this so i can be a proper "watchman":)
>
>[note: nietzsche is a philosopher who you would learn about in any
>introductory college philosophy class. his core "nihilistic" beliefs, as i
>understand them, are extremely distorted and completely irrelevant to any
>discussions on this list, though jeremy has studied them in a little more
>detail than did i. my mention of him was in the context of a joke only, as
>the archives show. this group has been around since some time last
>november,
>i believe, and as others pointed out the last three emails had this thread
>in some form out of a total of 600 or more, making it less than one half of
>one percent of all emails.]
>
>"did you hear about that school in nyc that has banned mother's day and
>father's day in the name of political correctness???? my lord, come
>quickly!
>
>"love ya, doc,
>barb"
>
>let's not forget that even in naked silence, most of those on this group
>have the discernment to see right where people are in their posts, and no
>harm is done. that quote again returns: "it is the same to take offense as
>it is to give offense." think about that statement and read the above
>letter
>again. then think about that statement and read some of the rebuttals on
>the
>list as well. this works both ways. to be the highest examples we can be,
>we
>should demonstrate that we are unmoved by others' statements and simply
>remain in a place of understanding and compassion for the sorrows of
>third-density life and the never-ending ontological struggle of human being
>searching for ultimate being, or "the search for god."
>
>and being unmoved also means that we are unafraid to discuss any
>participant's statements at the deepest, truest level, even if that
>participant may feel quite insulted and not like what they see in the
>aftermath. my response is intended to be a cogent reply to the leading
>question, which was certainly not very loving to anyone except to dr. byron
>___, who may or may not even be a member of this list, i'm not certain.
>barb's letter is filled with judgments and attacks that demonstrate a very
>brief, incomplete assessment of this material that most others here could
>easily address, as has already been done with lightning speed! all are
>automatically excluded in this letter except "the doc," with the emphasis
>on
>his ph.d. further delineating the "us and them" mentality.
>
>remember that to participate here by posting such comments is to **enter
>statements for review by your own free will decision...** which may result
>in some degree of *analysis of the messenger* that could prove embarassing
>or even humiliating to the originating party. others should keep this in
>mind; the people on this list possess deep wisdom and profound
>psychological
>insight; so, what may start as a simple free-willed complaint could turn
>into a "reading" of the soul's strengths and weaknesses. this is a forum...
>and you should expect all manner of responses! it is your free will to
>submit a "gift" to the group consciousness to be digested in this manner!
>
>so if you have an adroit fondness for christianity (fundamentalist or
>otherwise) and feel that all else is a distortion, then find a good church
>near your home, attend bible study, join christian newsgroups and leave it
>at that. you'll have all that you need for where you're at, and certainly
>would not need to create the role of "watchman" for yourself and disrupt
>our
>group harmony, carefully built up on wilcock and his contributors'
>lifetime(s) of effort, (such as rod johnson's sequential physics,) now
>freely given on the website. ra's suggestion that "if you can't be of
>service, then withdraw" is perfect in light of this situation here.
>condemning statements are almost never a service to others, except as a
>means of enhancing the fidelity and communication of all those who feel
>offended by the statements.
>
>if you think that we're all mad as hatters, then recognize that one brief,
>ill-tempered email rushed off without the proper background research of the
>website (which admittedly would take at least a month or two, and i was
>only
>on art bell one and three weeks ago, respectively) is not likely to be of
>any service to us. furthermore, this judgmental statement has probably only
>reinforced the majority's predisposed view of fundamentalist christians,
>thus further insuring that others will not come to the "one and true jesus"
>as per barb's definition.
>
>i think that what prompted barb's letter (who may have already unsubscribed
>by now, someone did, that tends to be the pattern, stab and retreat) is the
>fact that, compared to other times in our history, we now have more than
>200
>folks on this list and very few of them have been compelled to write
>anything. most likely, this has as much to do with myself as with anyone
>else, as i've been working very busily to finish convergence iii and
>recover
>from the all-night experience with ab recently. tomorrow i'm off to dc for
>the next two phases of the disclosure conferences as an invited guest, so
>now is a hectic time to say the least.
>
>we're all busy. there's a lot of stuff to read on this website. the
>vibrations are quickening. we're all feeling it. we're all going through
>it,
>regardless of color or creed. i had a guy email me and try to tell me that
>all our troubles are from "race mixing," and that was the only letter that
>i
>didn't even honor with a brief answer, it was so flatly negative. i rented
>and watched "bamboozled" by spike lee as an antidote, crying my eyes out at
>the controversial ending as well as at other points. and a letter like this
>is "religionist," only a few steps away from being "racist" and coming from
>the same exclusionist attitudes.
>
>in the past, when written letters (often those of a cursory or attacking
>nature in particular) have triggered long litanies from me, (and all that
>can be found within the archives) it tends to get things rolling.
>controversy, coupled with my own participation, greases the gears to be
>sure! unfortunately this becomes less and less likely of a prospect, as my
>schedule is truly growing... i now am blessed with approximately triple the
>email volume that i had prior to ab, with huge surges of 150+ a day at the
>times i'm on the show. i'm working on that piece where "it's not
>overwhelming if you don't choose it to be..." so now i've scaled back my
>expectations and my letter-writers get smaller responses... much smaller.
>most emails are multi-question, multi-page affairs, with single-sentence,
>single-topic replies... :)
>
>so as a result of this overall lack of group activity, even given the
>enormous amount of personal email i have received, the new socio-political
>developments and the final release of fifteen chapters of my
>long-anticipated new book, the content of this group would appear to be
>rather minimal.
>
>[the socio-political developments include the pope officially endorsing
>mutual forgiveness and acceptance of islam. have you watched the news
>lately? go to http://www.cnn.com and see; he's actually saying "a salaam
>aleiakum" (the god in me honors the god in you) and engaging in muslim
>customs such as kissing the soil... (uh-oh... unity? cooperation? anything
>but that! :) we're also seeing the "disclosure" event occurring right as
>i
>write!]
>
>so, despite these developments that should trigger discussion, if someone
>had joined this list without really doing the 'homework,' which by
>necessity
>would involve reading at least some of shift of the ages / convergence iii
>and poring through the readings archives for things that look interesting,
>then any assessment of the work would be characteristically myopic.
>
>this list is intended as an augmentation for the study of the site, so that
>as the questions and "stumpings" raised by the complex material on the
>website come about, you can discuss them with others instead of simply
>emailing wilcock, who is often way too overloaded to respond with anything
>more than one-sentence gratuities as of late... and it's only going to get
>worse. don't even ask how many people have been waiting patiently for
>readings... we're still suspending all dream reading operations, (and
>thereby all normal funding sources) until we can finish the entire book for
>the public to read freely! :)
>
>one can surmise that barb's comments originate from my desire not to
>exclude
>art bell from the topics that dr. mandelker and myself were discussing. you
>have to know your host, and in this case i've listened to enough shows to
>know that art often goes into a mode where he starts "tuning out" when he's
>dealing with guests who he really doesn't want to attack. what makes him
>tune out? new age metaphysics and lingo, repetition of words like "god,"
>christan bible-thumping, claims of channeling, et cetera. everyone tries to
>grab the microphone and the podium and drop their own rant, while
>consequently disregarding art's needs and desires as a host... james van
>praagh didn't touch art's comment "i'm not so sure about the christian view
>of god" with a ten-foot pole! otherwise, he did a great job!
>
>however, if art feels that his guests can take it, then he will attack. he
>did this with us by making the comment, "now you can say whatever you want,
>but i want to say this. everybody talks about how great this (ascension) is
>going to be... but it's going to turn us all into hamburger! poof! all we
>know for certain is that we're all going to die, right?" i had to then
>explain, in detail, a case for why these higher electromagnetic fields we
>are now experiencing will produce a transmutation of the physical body into
>a higher state of energetic vibration. for other examples of art attacking
>his guests, take the first two appearances that hoagland had with art after
>he returned to the radio. the second show with eugene mallove on free
>energy
>was especially intense, as far as conflict goes. usually art is not as
>blatant in his critiques as what i encountered with laura lee, but art can
>certainly dish it out.
>
>so 'know your host.' what does that mean? my host said, just less than a
>week prior to when i was on the air with him, that he had "some serious
>problems with the christian idea of god." so many people get on this show
>and essentially end up using art... they get the microphone and deliver
>their two cents' worth, and they really haven't studied him or learned his
>character traits. they're inevitably quick to market their wares in the
>hopes of making gobs and gobs of money (which by the way is far less likely
>to happen then they think it will be; after all, there's a new guest every
>night and the net provides unlimited information gratification.)
>
>at the fellowship church that i attend here in virginia beach and have
>spoken at, the same thing happens. people do sunday services and they never
>attend otherwise; they don't really know the congregation's attitudes,
>emotions and needs, and in some cases they deliver sermons that have little
>or nothing to do with where the group-mind is at. nevertheless, they're
>satisfied within themselves (often visibly so) at delivering what they
>think
>the word of god really is.
>
>so, by honoring art's needs, i directly addressed his previous statements,
>showing that i wanted him to be beside us as we continued forward and i was
>sensitive to his own concerns. there is no judgment in saying that humans
>innately anthropomorphize god, imbuing their idea of god with human
>qualities; it is very easily seen.
>
>my key point is this: for millions of inhabited planets in one galaxy
>alone,
>with an infinity of galaxies that have never been determined to have an
>ending point, can we ever even begin to tackle these "ultimate questions"
>with anything but humility, reverence and awe, along with a completely open
>mind? as maurice chatelain said in his book, "can we really imagine that
>every planet in the universe is required to have jesus arrive, be crucified
>and resurrected, in order to insure their ongoing spiritual welfare?"
>especially in light of the ancient civilizations that we now know of on
>earth alone!
>
>now turning our focus away from the cosmic and back to the local, we have
>someone who listened that night and was compelled to join this group,
>probably as a result of being angered by this comment. to get right down to
>the core of this issue, there's a lot of pain in someone who would write a
>letter like this, and we can feel compassion for that fact. simple
>psychology shows that this being feels an increasing loss of control in its
>environment, and a consequent feeling of despair. let's review the issues:
>
>1. the letter expresses regret over the "loss" of mother and father's day
>in
>one single school in one single city. ("did you hear about that school in
>nyc that has banned mother's day and father's day in the name of political
>correctness????") this demonstrates a focus on the apparent importance of
>human social conventions, while not realizing that god is not contained in
>mother's day or father's day; god is far too vast to ever be confined to a
>holiday, or a definition, or a religious sect. you could lose all the
>holidays under a completely despotic, dictatorial government and god is
>unmoved.
>
>one school within one city changing its policies is very, very transient in
>light of the cosmic plan that is now unfolding before us. other planets
>have
>had it far worse than ourselves; this harvest is actually relatively
>positive and smooth compared to other "borg"-type situations where the
>negative polarity is the dominant force involved. we're already nearly
>three
>years outside of the worst-case scenario probabilities for our future that
>were seen by cayce only 60 years ago; 1998 came and went without a hitch,
>though we could have had the complete loss of california and a polar shift
>already by this point.
>
>however, to a being that is feeling overwhelmed by the "illusion" of life
>in
>our current plane, the adaptation or elimination of human cultural
>conventions (such as holidays) can appear very distressing. if this is the
>case, then such beings will only find themselves growing more and more
>desperate as these months proceed. very little of the current order will
>remain before the shift itself, and we're now way past the point where any
>thinking person can deny it; if they live in california they don't have
>lights for the second day in a row today, including traffic lights, and
>like
>chicago, they will be paying $3.00 a gallon for gasoline within another two
>months or less. this is real.
>
>but all the above that i've just said is nothing; it's a snow job; it's
>only
>answering the external statement without the internal pain. the real issue
>is much deeper, should be obvious, and is one that we should all have
>compassion for. possibly as a mother, but even more deeply and
>subconsciously as the divine feminine (or goddess spirit) of the earth at
>this time, this being is feeling a lack of love, a lack of respect for who
>and what it is. now is not the time right before father's day, it is the
>time right before mother's day. and this points to where the real pain is.
>this letter is a cry for help, in many ways similar to the intentions of a
>suicide note. it would undoubtedly draw stinging fire in almost all cases,
>thus emphasizing the suicidal quality to it.
>
>woman, goddess, mother, we love you. we respect you. we honor you. we
>revere
>you. we know that most human beings on this planet have gotten caught up in
>the patriarchal structures; that is all changing now. in the past you had a
>total matriarchal system, and we now know from experience that this didn't
>work either. unity is, and always has been, the key.
>
>take the words from dr. neil peart, ph.d. psychology, drummer and
>songwriter
>for the band "rush." he touches on this male-female archetypal struggle so
>beautifully, calling it the battle between love and reason, associating it
>with the right and left hemispheres of the brain (the album is called
>hemispheres.)
>
>peart uses greek mythology to make his point. apollo is the god associated
>with the feminine / love / right brain archetype, and dionysus is
>associated
>with the masculine / reason / left brain archetype. cygnus is the god of
>the
>greek mythos who came to unify the two perspectives of love and reason, and
>at this point in the song they have finally heard his cry for unity:
>
>"apollo was astonished,
>dionysus thought me mad.
>but they heard my story further,
>and they wondered, and were sad.
>
>looking down from olympus
>on a world of doubt and fear,
>it's surface splintered into
>sorry hemispheres...
>
>[guitar solo]
>
>they sat a while in silence,
>then they turned at last to me,
>"we will call you cygnus,
>the god of balance you shall be...""
>
>then the reprise, a beautiful melody set to a very nice, very simple
>strumming guitar track, really socks it home:
>
>"we can walk our roads together,
>if our goals are all the same.
>we can run alone and free,
>if we pursue a different aim.
>
>let the truth of love be lighted;
>let the love of truth shine clear;
>sensibility,
>armed with sense and liberty,
>with our heard and mind united
>in one single,
>perfect,
>sphere..."
>
>if you love this album you'll know why there are tears in my eyes right
>now.
>will we ever understand... (i guess i'm not yet transparent in
>personality... :)
>
>2. the stated desire for "my lord" to come quickly, coupled with the
>utterly
>distorted sentence that "all of us hateful believers of the one and true
>jesus will not be involved" contains a whale of a lot of hidden information
>about the nature of its writer, and it will take us a number of paragraphs
>to break it down. so before we go into the idea of the compartmentalization
>of the infinitely vast oneness into something that is exclusive only to
>this
>being, (through the use of the word "my",) let's begin by saying that this
>statement implies that we've said that all fundamentalist christians are
>not
>ready for harvest.
>
>quite to the contrary, the only thing that matters for each person is
>whether or not they have truly chosen to serve others, hence serving god. a
>fundamentalist could certainly make this choice under those conditions with
>sufficient purity, providing that they are not actively going around
>proselytizing and attacking others. we've all heard every sect try to say
>that their god is the only true god. if you serve this ultimate being,
>oneness or "true" god by loving all others as yourself, then you have
>applied the higher teachings.
>
>you're here to make one simple choice... nothing else matters... will it be
>manipulation, control and enslavement of others or love, care and support
>for them? if you choose love and service to others then it must be
>unconditional love. smile. be nice. be friendly. love people. treat the
>girl
>at the grocery store and the man at the gas station with the respect they
>deserve as fellow co-creators, no higher or lower than yourself. it is not
>your responsibility to figure out whether they believe in jesus or not, or
>to treat them any differently if they did than if they didn't. if you're
>not
>doing that, then you're making the opposite choice, which is to manipulate
>and enslave them. this should be simple enough, but for a number of reasons
>having to do with negative interference, it is not.
>
>wilcock's statements on art bell that "there is no judgment involved in
>this
>[ascension] process" and "it truly does not matter what faith you are",
>that
>"the only thing that matters is how much you have become a reflection of
>god
>in your personal desire to serve others" sounds good enough to most new
>agers... but to others it is completely explosive. such a statement can
>certainly be disconcerting, even exasperating to those whose ego
>consciousness is heavily invested in the idea of "being right" and thereby
>asserting others as "being wrong." and as we go i'll explain exactly what i
>mean by that.
>
>my personal experience has proven time and time again that this entire
>"religious" behavior complex originates from feelings of profound inner
>guilt over the past, which in turn lead to the idea that an outside divine
>force must "forgive" the being instead of that being taking the
>responsibility to forgive itself. most people in these situations claim
>that
>self-forgiveness is impossible, if you can get them into a candid and
>honest
>discussion about it, which i have often done.
>
>all too often i have heard born-agains and fundamentalists claim that their
>'sins' are far too extreme for them to be able to ever forgive themselves.
>they say this because *that is what they are taught in their worship
>services.* i've gone and heard it myself. this teaching is what allows
>these
>groups to enslave their members, convince them to pay extraordinarily high
>tithes and attend services all throughout the week, not just on sundays.
>the
>idea that it is impossible to forgive yourself comes from the negative
>polarity, which ra claims is locally headed up by negative entities in
>fourth and fifth density who originate from a star system in the orion
>constellation. the negative polarity desires control and enslavement, and
>"seeks the aggrandizement of self or of social organizations with which
>self
>identifies."
>
>forgive the stark analogy, but let's enter in a far more extreme and ugly
>form of negative polarity enslavement for comparison. when you volunteer
>for
>the suicide hotline, they show you these very shocking films where you see
>the freshly-battered wife, replete with huge black and blue marks on her
>face, going through an entrance interview for a shelter. the counselor
>says,
>"you do acknowledge that he tried to kill you; he hit your head with the
>back of his gun." she replies, "yes... but i still love him." sadly, it is
>immediately evident that the person has completely handed over their own
>power to an outside entity.
>
>why did i use such a violent analogy? not because people have been
>physically assaulted in these facilities... (ah, you say... but they have.
>every week there's a new story about pastors drinking alcohol, abusing
>tithes / donations "to god" for personal gain and accosting church members
>sexually...) essentially, those wife-beaters have convinced their wives
>that
>life without them is simply not possible; that there is no other possible
>man for them but him. getting out of these relationships becomes difficult
>or even seemingly impossible... seemingly. all enslavement begins by
>teaching the enslaved beings that slavery is by far the preferred choice
>for
>them, if not the only choice.
>
>usually on a much smaller scale of intensity, these churches work the same
>way. people often come to them when their spiritual and mental bodies
>(sometimes physical as well) are in as sorrowful a condition as the
>battered
>wife. i've attended various fundamentalist churches without indicating the
>full range of my beliefs, and can state from first-hand experience that you
>can get a very strong "love" hit when you go there. this is an undeniable
>fact, and you can prove it for yourself, though i don't recommend it.
>
>in fact, in one case a preacher was saying a prayer that was totally
>channeled, and every now and then you could hear his ego kick in and
>disrupt
>the channeling by going into a sentence or two of standard, rote dogma
>about
>the blood of jesus before he'd give himself up to the flow again and
>continue to utter words of immaculate purity. back and forth, back and
>forth, a mostly positive channel (who doesn't even realize what he is
>doing)
>who is continually tainting the message to the needs of the ego.
>
>in a loose sense it reminded me of a freestyle rap music artist who can get
>long passages of material straight from the mind, and breaks it up with
>standard "licks" of filler material in between. (freestyle rappers can go
>for minutes on end producing rhyming verse that is totally original and
>improvised... but most of them have an armada of pre-planned statements
>that
>they use to keep the "flow" going, just like the preacher i mentioned...
>
>i know, because back in college i "dueled" another freestyle rapper in a
>club and actually "won." (one of the few times i've ever been in a club.)
>it
>was late at night, with an awesome funk drumbeat and real syncopated,
>delicious, groovin', movin' bassline... i had already been sober for two
>years and could keep spilling out rhyming, rhythmic god-conscious,
>non-offensive verse at breakneck speed without slipping up or repeating
>myself. i was amazed to hear all this pouring out of myself, as i had never
>tried to do it before. the other guy kept running out of steam and falling
>back on pre-planned material. at the time i didn't realize how i was
>getting
>the information, i just knew that as long as i concentrated very hard, it
>would keep coming... :)
>
>so yes... you can go to these churches and be "fed..." but it comes at a
>heavy price. fundamentalist churches use all the standard cult tactics for
>behavior modification and "brainwashing," though most of them don't realize
>it. how is this done? read on...
>
>cult brainwashing involves building your followers up slowly with a
>foundation of teachings, then raising them to a state of supreme spiritual
>euphoria, and then right in that moment hitting them with a statement that
>ties together all the loose ends that you've been dripping in a little at a
>time. pow!
>
>now this final statement usually is the "hardest sell" of the whole
>discourse; it is the statement that will eventually convince that person to
>trade the love that they have received from almost everyone else in the
>world (the woman in the grocery store, man at the gas station, family and
>friends, etc.) for the love they are feeling in that moment. it emphasizes
>the lack of love that they have felt from all others up until that moment
>and aggrandizes the superiority of the love that they are now receiving. it
>is the statement that makes them feel that 'everyone else is wrong' and now
>they must completely commit themselves body, mind and spirit to the group.
>remember that the cult leader wants them to believe that everyone else in
>the world, including their friends and family, are "outside" the "chosen"
>circle unless they are also a part of the group.
>
>remember, now, all this gets started because the person feels extreme
>guilt,
>and in their group they are told that they cannot and should not try to
>forgive themselves for what they "did." instead, they must surrender their
>resistance and turn over all their spiritual, mental and physical
>(financial) power to the group. even though they believe that they are
>worshipping jesus, or the heavenly father (who is above jesus in the
>standard trinity view,) what they are actually doing is worshipping the
>group, worshipping the pastor as proxy and spokesman for jesus, and
>worshipping a set of beliefs. instead of worshipping god, they worship
>their
>beliefs! think about it. this should remind us of most scientists as well,
>since it is the exact same phenomenon, only in a different category.
>
>so again, they feel that they cannot forgive themselves. therefore, their
>only option was to adhere to the belief that they could be 'washed by the
>blood of the lamb' so that jesus' death 2000 years ago "paid the ransom"
>for
>their "sins." this is by far the most egregious (=grotesque) distortion of
>modern christianity; the idea that simply saying "i accept christ" can
>eliminate any further engagement in the personal healing and initiation
>process, and that by such a statement the road to heaven is totally paved,
>and in one fell swoop you've "gone the distance." christ's teachings
>focused
>so much on self-responsibility and that has been almost hopelessly lost.
>why
>did he insist on calling himself "the son of man" instead of the son of
>god?
>most people do not actually read the bible; they read small excerpts from
>the bible that are heavily laced with spin-controlled context from the head
>of their group.
>
>but is it truly impossible to relieve your own guilt from within, contrary
>to cult dogma? yes. to forgive yourself is to claim your own divine power
>without a proxy, and accept yourself. to accept yourself is to become the
>creator, to realize what you already are. this is standard ra teaching:
>"forgive yourself, accept yourself, become the creator." to make that step
>of "claiming the i am" is to dig deep within the self until the realization
>comes that you are the "one" ***in the same way that everyone and
>everything
>else is the one***... and thereby you must forgive yourself to receive
>god's
>forgiveness. in a universe of oneness there is no other selfhood but
>oneness!
>
>so again, the fundamentalist viewpoint creates a unique distortion, where
>the person fully believes and is told in their sunday services that their
>own self-forgiveness is impossible; they were born in "original sin" and
>are
>automatically condemned. (yes, i know, folks, this is such tired old stuff,
>but some people do still believe it!) the idea of "original sin" is only a
>gloss for people's subconscious self-condemnation of their own "original
>sins" earlier in their life, before their "pentecost;" we could call it
>"original guilt." since they are categorically denied access to god by
>their
>innate "sin" from the very foundation of humankind, (and subconsciously
>denied access to god from their own self-condemnation,) their "ticket to
>heaven" hinges only on the divine forgiveness that they feel has been
>granted through their belief structure.
>
>(yes, it sounds a little complex. sorry. i'm sure others here would be glad
>to round out this whole set of concepts... but for now we'll keep on
>explaining it. :)
>
>you can't self-forgive if you're automatically a sinner, with jesus as the
>only passageway out of "the lake of fire" where you'll "burn for all
>eternity" after your death! (they truly believe this is real and i've had
>clients who, as children, were shown vicious, realistic propaganda / horror
>films of people supposedly burning alive! really!)
>
>so if you are one of these people, then realize that your apparently
>automatic condemnation before god (which is only your mirror for your own
>self-condemnation) places *absolute importance* upon the integrity and
>inherent "rightness" of your group's belief structure, and their
>particular,
>narrow interpretation of jesus -- the specific definition of god that they
>believe to have forgiven them. (this has almost nothing to do with jesus
>the
>son of man, as he insisted that he be called!) thus, you will vigorously
>seek out and "fight" those who would challenge their definition of god, as
>we have seen on our board.
>
>those who have read percival's "thinking and destiny" (are you listening
>korga?... :) will know that these groups do indeed build up thought-form
>'gods' that are constantly warring with each other and are essentially
>negative beings. the more they hate and condemn others, feel incessant
>fear,
>worry and guilt and seek to aggrandize themselves and their group, the more
>they feed the negative beings with power, which in turn gives them more
>worldly power. this in turn will eventually lead to holy wars and all other
>events that fractionalize and splinter the group consciousness of humanity.
>
>here we are one planet amongst millions of other inhabited planets just in
>this galaxy, and yet we have so many different groups, and each one of them
>is completely convinced that they are correct. yet, if god is one then we
>should honor each person's path as completely legitimate... which is
>exactly
>what ra does. some might work more quickly than others but all are
>ultimately sacramental in their own right, as everyone and everything is
>god. this is the message that the extraterrestrials bring us for today.
>
>in the fundamentalist / cult brainwashing scenario, true oneness is
>impossible, because their specific definition of god and all the "rules"
>that go with it is required to be correct, or that person's entire
>understanding of personal "salvation" (which short-circuits their
>participation in self-forgiveness) would appear to be destroyed. and
>they've
>worked and chewed on these concepts so many times in their minds that
>they've got very little left to hold onto in the aftermath; not all are
>lucky enough to have a sympathetic friend who can ease their transition out
>of the cult and into a more open form of spirituality.
>
>so, should this definition of god be successfully challenged, enough so
>that
>it causes them to rethink some of their positions, (dw: "there is no
>judgment in this process... it does not matter what faith you are... your
>own self-responsibility is the most important thing... your vibration is
>solely determined by how much you are willing to be of service to others")
>then they face the possibility of having to forgive themselves, of
>processing their own guilt from within instead of from without. this feels
>quite immediately distasteful, is not seen as remotely possible, and
>triggers the most bitter, venomous reactions, as we have now seen.
>
>hence, their entire guilt over their own past is challenged when their
>belief structure is challenged. at the deepest level, this inability to
>face
>the self is what then motivates them to enslave others. how do they try to
>enslave others? by making emphatic statements regarding the inherent
>correctness of their ideological constructs of faith, and blanket
>condemnations of all remaining worldviews. such letters are not written for
>no reason; they seek to "save" (read: enslave) whatever number of the 200
>or
>more souls on this list who they feel might be willing to pay homage to
>their own thought-form god, constructed on a complex foundation of
>specific,
>isolationist belief patterns. (never minding that the vast majority of
>folks
>have joined this list because of their love for the work on the asc2k
>website, and the legacy of the universal one or christ spirit... :)
>
>let's observe a bit more of how the negative polarity worked through this
>largely innocent and unsuspecting human participant. that very suppressed
>guilt, which is theoretically alleviated by jesus's blood, continues to
>grow
>and gnaw within as a very real force that causes the person to lash out at
>others. being "saved" is never enough... but the cults don't give much past
>that initial "boarding pass." now in this letter, the pain has been freshly
>aggravated by the nyc / mother's day incident and by wilcock's bold
>articulation of concepts that are too freeing for the existing dogma to
>hold
>up under. once the venom rises enough to allow the lash-out to occur, then
>the negative polarity has the perfect gateway through which to act. (see
>section 7 of the ra study guide on negative beings.)
>
>remember that the negative beings are doing this constantly, and most
>people
>are never, ever aware of how they are participating in allowing negative
>"psychic attacks" to work through them. all along they feel that it is
>totally their own free will, not realizing that the negative beings
>specialize in finding cases where you choose to enslave others through your
>own free will... and then they give you a massive boost of energy to go as
>far with it as you can go. (also remember that what we're doing with this
>work is a very high priority for negative attack, due to the possibility
>that it could increase the harvest in the short time remaining on earth
>before that event occurs.)
>
>so now we're into a deeper level of how this person so clearly articulated
>the basic premises of a negatively-oriented psychic attack. in the letter,
>notice the summoning of someone named "byron" who is apparently another
>group member and has a ph.d. such reverence for graduate-level education
>seems to indicate that the being considers this person to be "more
>important" than the combined voice of most others on this list. am i wrong?
>this person, coupled with jesus, is full armor! remember? this being now
>calling itself barb is at war! (and we are the mirror of this war within
>the
>being... and therefore should feel compassion in our responses and not
>indulge in the same energy.)
>
>then, with the appropriate forces summoned, as seen in the statement
>"donned
>with the full armor, i tend to like to "spy" (...) on the enemy...," the
>being throws out feelers and creates the sense that they've formed some
>sort
>of "corral" around the group (read: enslaved the group) and are closing in
>for the kill...
>
>wilcock is a nazi! you're all going to "hell!" now we've got you! (but
>alas,
>we might be willing to let a few of you sheep out of the corral to "save"
>(read: enslave) you... if you are willing to accept that we are always and
>forever correct and no one else will ever be. but you can't run with our
>crew until you realize that you were already condemned all this time
>(original sin,) you just never knew it before now!)
>
>you may need to read over this section number two a few times to understand
>this final statement, and if you don't get it then you're probably not
>ready
>to get it:
>
>deep, inner, un-acknowledged self-hatred is the motivating factor that
>leads
>fundamentalists to attack more open-minded folks. a unique situation has
>been created where they feel that if their faith is incorrect, then their
>own 'sins' are too awesome to permit them to make further spiritual
>progress
>into higher planes. thus, they believe that their entire soul evolution
>requires their faith to be correct. otherwise, they feel that they are in a
>lot of trouble, as long ago they had concluded that no one but jesus could
>forgive them, including themselves. remember. this is how they really feel.
>no jokes.
>
>therefore, if wilcock is anything but a nazi, then they feel they are in a
>lot of trouble. let's again remind ourselves of ra's statement of the
>"melting influence of love." if we choose not to love and accept ourselves,
>we can keep on incarnating in third-density indefinitely, continually
>handing over our power to proxies who will tell us that we're already
>there.
>all the while, what we've really needed is to simply accept and forgive
>ourselves for all that we have "done" in the past... and in that moment, we
>overcome self-hatred, which in turn allows us to be able to love and accept
>others as ourselves.
>
>so all that was number 2 on our list of comments that were made, and
>subsequent analyses. so let's move on now to numbers 3 and 4, remembering
>that our focus was on pointing out the obvious despair that this being is
>feeling, showing us how we can have better compassion for this being and
>helping to explain some of the fine points of philosophy that are required
>to understand this information:
>
>3. the letter states that the vibrational upgrade is a 'lurch forward.'
>such
>a statement shows this being's feelings of despair over the process itself,
>thus placing the emphasis on the difficulty and pain that would appear to
>be
>involved. if we choose to focus on the difficulty and pain, then we can see
>as much of it as we choose; fear and depression is a pit that knows no
>bottom. the secret is that it is entirely a free-will decision to
>participate in fear, worry and guilt! the extraterrestrials teach trust in
>this process.
>
>4. this letter betrays this being's open, blatant categorization of the
>souls on this list as the "enemy"... despite jesus' teachings to "turn the
>other cheek" and "love your enemies". that sad statement right there, in
>and
>of itself, indicates that this being is not yet ready for the fourth
>density, though this certainly could change in the time remaining. you want
>to join jesus' team? practice unconditional love. service to others is not
>conditional. you should rejoice that such material as the "time of global
>shift" seminar exists, as it proves that this cherished christian event is,
>in fact, real, from a scientific perspective that no longer requires "blind
>faith!"
>
>as many sources insist that this ascension event will occur in waves, we
>have been told that there will be many fundamentalists who will quite
>obviously see that the first wave has passed and realize that they were not
>a part of it. these cult-indoctrinated beliefs run so deeply that the
>person
>is capable of completely hating and villainizing the outside world, thus
>standing in complete opposition to the most basic "graduation
>requirements,"
>and yet completely believe that they are among "god's chosen people." this
>will create quite a surprise when they realize that they missed something
>big... and we have already been told that this will occur.
>
>so to summarize, for one who has studied the teachings on the
>ascension2000.com website, they know that the christ spirit is strongly
>revered. the very first link at the top of the page, "opening quotes," has
>a
>number of biblical statements and many of the readings in the archives
>mention the christ spirit, christ consciousness and christ within, and yes,
>jesus; this would be easily seen if, that is, the person is willing to take
>the time to find out. furthermore, edgar cayce, the primary inspiration for
>this work, was a christian sunday school teacher, a devout (yes,
>fundamentalist) christian who gradually came to accept the message from his
>readings.
>
>anyone who reads "the shift of the ages" far enough will see cayce's
>categorization of jesus as being the primary spiritual leader for this
>earth, having been "the first and last adam" as it says in the bible,
>meaning that he has been through many incarnations from amilius, who is the
>adam of the bible -- the first person to come in to try to help the
>enslaved
>human race, to jesus, the first person to ascend and clear the pathway for
>the remainder of the enslaved human race to realize that such an ascension
>is indeed possible. further analysis of the cayce readings indicates that
>jesus had other pivotal incarnations including thothermes trismestigus,
>(see
>chapter 15 of convergence iii near the end,) zend the father of zoroaster,
>enoch, melchizedek and more...
>
>many, many, many times wilcock and other contributors to this site have
>written that we are all to follow the "christ pattern" and experience our
>own "crucifixion of the ego" which comes about through facing the parts of
>ourselves that we did not yet integrate (father let this cup pass from me)
>and finally accepting god's will (not my will, o father-mother god, but thy
>will be done.) only once we accept god's will as our own and overthrow the
>"monkey mind" of the ego do we realize the resurrection / ascension
>process.
>
>jesus was the first to do this, but we've probably pointed out100 different
>times that jesus said, "as i do these things, so shall ye do them, and
>greater things, for i go unto my father [i accept god's will instead of my
>own.]" (john 14:12.) jesus is not the last to have done this. he
>categorically states that you will do the same things that he did... if you
>can accept god's will for yourself, within yourself, by forgiveness and
>acceptance, by handing over your personal ego motivations to those of the
>christ within. god does not want you to fractionalize and divide your
>fellow
>beings into categorized, labeled groups! just love them! ok?
>
>the one statement more than any other that has created the fundamentalist
>christian distortions is "i am the truth, the way and the life... no one
>can
>come unto the father but by me." as wilcock's readings have stated at least
>three or four different times, this is the i am presence or christ presence
>within each person that is speaking; what ra calls the higher self. no one
>can return to the oneness without accepting god's will, as manifested in
>their own inner christ. the same christ that awakened in jesus must awaken
>in everyone.
>
>so in this letter we now have some cards on the table regarding our
>spiritual intentions, through the narrow fisheye lens of this discussion
>group... which may or may not have any direct bearing on the work featured
>on the ascension2000 website (hopefully it does.) bearing that context in
>mind, let's go back to the letter's core statements.
>
>let's remember that we have an angry fundamentalist christian being on our
>hands who will vigorously defined its precise view of god. then, in a
>previous posting, wilcock mentions one word from nietzsche in a passing
>joke, later followed by a (very loose!) conjunction with statements about
>fundamentalists striving in vain to "convert" him, then someone else
>mentions "nazi" and boom!
>
>"wilcock is a nazi!"
>
>now the being has "seen" what it wants to see and mixed this
>hastily-concocted "recipe" together to form a non-existent case. no one on
>the list will take this seriously, and the statement in reality only
>externalizes the inner turmoil and grief of this being for naked public
>viewing. then when the others on this group attack and dish back the same
>meal from the opposite side, the being's despair is only further increased,
>its desire to promulgate the cult only further enhanced. so let's again
>think about the wisdom in "there is no such thing as an emotionally charged
>situation; either be of service or withdraw."
>
>this is a being in pain. remember this. let's curb our tongues and surround
>this being with light, that it may seek greater faith and trust in the
>spiritual process now unfolding on the earth at this time. for most
>third-density beings, earth changes are scary. economic collapse is scary.
>school shootings, war, et cetera, is scary. the spiritual forces are not
>trying to scare us by telling us what experiences still remain in the short
>time that we have left; and let us not forget that the bible has some of
>the
>"scariest" depictions of the time that we are now in that you will find in
>any spiritual literature!
>
>ultimately we must realize that it is our choice to feel fear, and there
>are
>negative beings out there who will feed on any fear energy that we produce.
>if you want to call them "demons" that is your choice, again... but that
>term is also a distortion, as they too will eventually return to the
>oneness
>after a prolonged struggle with healing their original separation from god.
>
>when dr. mandelker and i presented this information on the air, it wasn't
>easy material to digest; we're at a point now when many changes will be
>coming very swiftly, and we will have to experience them. if we choose fear
>then we will go through these changes with more trauma than if we choose
>trust... and now more than ever we need to foster a cooperative attitude so
>that we can harmoniously integrate with others in our own local areas as
>that need manifests itself.
>
>there is not much time left for things to stay the way they are... and
>we're
>not going to be able to turn the clock back on this one. yes, a part of me
>doesn't want to see it or go through it either... but we must keep
>reminding
>ourselves that god is our source, not a job, not a government, not a social
>structure, not a car, not a grocery store, but god. we will need to draw
>upon that resource more than ever for strength and calmness in the times
>immediately ahead.
>
>so to return to the core issue that started this letter, which is an
>ad-hominum attack on wilcock and those who participate in this group:
>
>it is always and forever a free-will decision on behalf of anyone to read
>the website, to join and participate on the list, to peruse our media
>appearances and the like. this makes it categorically impossible to "spy"
>on
>any of this work, as it is open to all; spying is primarily defined as "the
>covert viewing of deliberately concealed information." and unlike the vast
>majority of guests on the art bell show, there is no monetary exchange
>required for you to know the cards in this deck; they're all laid out
>there,
>nothing has been withheld that can only be found in a paid form.
>
>so live and let live. be friendly to us, or we'll ask you to leave, as we
>really don't need this type of a letter. i'll close with dr. fritz perls'
>"gestalt prayer:"
>
>you do your thing, and i'll do my thing.
>
>i am not in this world to live up to your expectations
>
>and you are not in this world to live up to mine.
>
>you are you, and i am i,
>
>and if by chance we meet, it's beautiful.
>
>and if not, it can't be helped.
>___
>
>i rest my case.
>
>peace be with you -
>
>- david
>
>

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David Wilcock
05-09-2001, 08:13 PM
hello peeps!

not sure if i should be responding to this, as i am most definately not
a new member :-)

-- hey, why not. you're a member...

however, there were some things to which i wanted to respond.

first of all, i am psyched that david is a rapper!!! wilcock droppin
lyrical bombs on the crowd! lol! major cool! i've been getting into a rap
group called jurassic 5... they are all about old school, positive beats
without being goody goody, and they are all about improvisation. their djs
spin a over 5 min long "swing" era set at the end of their debut album,
"quality control." i had been thinking that rap had been completely sold
out and commercialized since the old skool days... so between this
revelation and disclosure, today has been a good day.

-- yes, it was just that one time in the club that i did freestyle rap in
public, but it was a lot of fun... and of course, being a jazz drummer and
intuitive gives me the chops i need.

second of all, i just wanted to reiterate that i don't think you should
follow nietzsche's teachings! i have read some stuff about him but that is
it... i'm definately not an expert, nor do i support nihilism at all. i'm a
"big picture" person (intj personality type :-) and get kicks out of finding
little bits of (what i perceived as) truth hidden in culture everywhere...
which is why i posted those quotes. plus any philosopher will tell you that
nietzsche is misunderstood... so hopefully this will be the last post about
nietzsche!!!!!! lol

-- thanks. i'd hoped my letter would trigger this final resolution.

thirdly, i want to complement david and scott on their wonderful
presentation on art bell. i just heard it today and it was great. as i
read thru this letter (it took you only one whole day to write? :-)

-- from 11 am to 6 pm, essentially straight through.

and heard your explanation of the asc2k ideas on ab, the great strides that
your flow of thought and organization of ideas through speech and writing
really struck me. it was so much different than that first "take-in"
interview that we had, when you were describing everything to me on the
phone. congratulations! your speaking and writing skills can only excel
now, and i was quite proud to hear such a logical and coherent presentation
of these very dear ideas. keep up the great work.

-- not all of the background research for ciii has made it onto paper yet...
but the fifteen chapters now posted are a tremendous augmentation to shift
of the ages as it now stands.

about the ab show, you mention the attacks and also how you had to
"know" what ab wanted... as far as the attacking goes, didn't you know this
was coming? talk show hosts are paid to create lively, controversial shows
that captivate the audience, and while i was quite pleased and surprised how
much room ab gave you to explain the concepts (without interruption!),
surely you must have been prepared to "back it up."

-- of course. we'd planned for possibly worse.

i think you answered his questions well, and he was obviously impressed (we
could tell b/c he shut up!). the only thing i noticed is that you go into a
lot of detail when you answer a question of his; the logical, organizational
flow is there, but sometimes it is a slow flow. the detail and meticulous
source quoting is quite neccessary in a print form, but might be a bit
redundant for a radio audience. just a suggestion - you're appearance was
terriffic!

-- i do the source quoting because i can, and that's not likely to change as
it lends attribution that is usually sorely lacking. however, your deeper
point about content is one that i was actively being coached on with scott
in the breaks... and indeed some of the points were too drawn out; but then
i've never worked in this form before.

as for barb's email to the list, i sincerely thought that she made a
mistake in sending that email to the list... why would someone send to the
list a letter that looks like it's only addressed to one person (dr. byron),
and that furthermore trashes the list incessantly?

-- i don't think it was an accident. :)

i'll grant you, i was angry at first, but i edited my response a few times
before sending it. i tried to engender a sense that, even though she did
not agree with us, i would be happy to explain where we are coming from. i
did not see her post as an attack, but rather, a mistake. given that,
although she did admit to spying (and that did anger me), i did do my best
to "laugh it off" and let her know that we were not a hateful group and were
open to her difference of opinion.

obviously, david interpreted this letter differently than i. perhaps he
is right; this *was* an attempt to "stab and retreat." but, in my opinion,
i don't think that analyzing someone who we only know through a few lines of
email is very wise. maybe if i was a psychology major, i'd feel differently
(you can blame all that nietzsche stuff on my german major!) but how does
analyzing a person in public help that person? i certainly acknowledge you
and anyone's right to do it, but what does that solve? i think the points
you make about fundamentalism are good, but on their own merit, without
having to publicly (and remotely) deconstruct a person's psyche - like you
said, we all were able to brush this attack off pretty easily. i certainly
am not saying your analysis was factually or logically wrong. was the point
of the whole analysis to explain what barb is going thru and to help us feel
compassion for her?

-- yes. some of us could brush it off easily, not all! this can stand as a
teaching for our members in the future to (hopefully) not respond to
provocation and understand the deep metaphysics of where such attacks
emanate from. and on another level... it's a free reading! i've certainly
done this for many people before, and it can be intense. and with this new
document, which i will encourage people to read, i'm going to make the point
more specific that when a person posts to this list, they're making a free
will decision to have every word they say analyzed, potentially speaking. or
not. in the future i want that point to be very clear to posters... all the
while realizing that attacks are not likely to produce this type of response
any more, now that the statement has been put out there.

> we disagree with this woman. she has her path. we all already do
respect that - so why go to the trouble of explaining why we're "better"
than her? don't get me wrong - i know *you* don't think this. but if she
read your whole email, what would she think? like i said in my reply to
her, i would much rather her know what we're talking about and think we're
wrong than have no idea what we're about, and still think we're wrong.

-- remember that such letters are attacks... and as ra stated, in higher
densities we learn the wisdom to refrain from battle. since we haven't
necessarily gotten to a point as a group where we are completely unmoved by
ad-hominum attacks, i wanted this to stand as an everlasting document to
draw upon in future situations. actually, since this letter was the first of
its kind i ended up using it to create just that very "policy statement," so
the work doesn't need to be redone. someone might be able to use it to get
out of a cult situation.

i was aware of the potentials for distortion, but i'm almost certain that
this person has already unsubscribed; that's usually the pattern and we have
very few unsubscriptions. furthermore, although it took me a long time to
write, i was very careful to remain transparent in personality as much as i
could and simply provide a vividly clear mirror of what was there. and that
in turn led a five-minute project into an all-day dissertation.

i've given a lot for people to deconstruct and analyze; this list involves a
measure of trust that i can self-disclose without fear. let's stay grounded
in the realization that we don't need to even respond to these types of
email; if there's 200 people on this list and not a one is moved but the
harmony proceeds, then i've done my job. this email was the most powerful
messaging tool we've ever had to trigger this level of understanding, in my
opinion.

> anyway, it's not too big of a deal in the scheme of things, just wanted
to share my reaction. i certainly don't want to take more of your time,
david, by forcing you to reply to this - just wanted to give feedback on
some points.

-- that's okay, i've pretty much given up on doing any book work until i get
back from dc on monday.

loving ciii - your explanation of "scalar waves" is the first i have ever
understood!!! i'm looking forward to really sinking my teeth into it this
summer, now that my time off work is "my" time - not homework time.

-- cool. now you're getting a cosmic education to augment the physical
one... :)

guess i'll get back to reading ciii...

take care,

jeremy

p.s. never followed news about the pope much, but from what you're
saying about his reconciliation with the muslims, he really is trying to
make a worthy effort at uniting the religions in peace. i also read he's
trying to reconcile with the eastern orthodox church. they're not too
receptive, yet. he must feel very strongly about these efforts, since he's
obviously very determined (even in his deteriorating physical condition).

-- yes, i thought that had a lot to do with it; he said "to heck with the
assassination risks, i'm going for it!"

peace be with you -

- david

Jeremy Weiland
05-10-2001, 06:16 AM
<table bgcolor="#ffffff">
><font face="arial" size="2">awesome. thanks for the reply! </font>
<blockquote style="border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px">
style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: david wilcock (djw333@exis.net)
style="font: 10pt arial">to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
style="font: 10pt arial">sent: wednesday, may 09, 2001 11:13 pm
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: re: [asc2k] a group overview, for new members - please read
>
<tt>hello peeps!

not sure if i should be responding to this, as i am most definately not
a new member :-)

-- hey, why not. you're a member...

however, there were some things to which i wanted to respond.

first of all, i am psyched that david is a rapper!!! wilcock droppin
lyrical bombs on the crowd! lol! major cool! i've been getting into a rap
group called jurassic 5... they are all about old school, positive beats
without being goody goody, and they are all about improvisation. their djs
spin a over 5 min long "swing" era set at the end of their debut album,
"quality control." i had been thinking that rap had been completely sold
out and commercialized since the old skool days... so between this
revelation and disclosure, today has been a good day.

-- yes, it was just that one time in the club that i did freestyle rap in
public, but it was a lot of fun... and of course, being a jazz drummer and
intuitive gives me the chops i need.

second of all, i just wanted to reiterate that i don't think you should
follow nietzsche's teachings! i have read some stuff about him but that is
it... i'm definately not an expert, nor do i support nihilism at all. i'm a
"big picture" person (intj personality type :-) and get kicks out of finding
little bits of (what i perceived as) truth hidden in culture everywhere...
which is why i posted those quotes. plus any philosopher will tell you that
nietzsche is misunderstood... so hopefully this will be the last post about
nietzsche!!!!!! lol

-- thanks. i'd hoped my letter would trigger this final resolution.

thirdly, i want to complement david and scott on their wonderful
presentation on art bell. i just heard it today and it was great. as i
read thru this letter (it took you only one whole day to write? :-)

-- from 11 am to 6 pm, essentially straight through.

and heard your explanation of the asc2k ideas on ab, the great strides that
your flow of thought and organization of ideas through speech and writing
really struck me. it was so much different than that first "take-in"
interview that we had, when you were describing everything to me on the
phone. congratulations! your speaking and writing skills can only excel
now, and i was quite proud to hear such a logical and coherent presentation
of these very dear ideas. keep up the great work.

-- not all of the background research for ciii has made it onto paper yet...
but the fifteen chapters now posted are a tremendous augmentation to shift
of the ages as it now stands.

about the ab show, you mention the attacks and also how you had to
"know" what ab wanted... as far as the attacking goes, didn't you know this
was coming? talk show hosts are paid to create lively, controversial shows
that captivate the audience, and while i was quite pleased and surprised how
much room ab gave you to explain the concepts (without interruption!),
surely you must have been prepared to "back it up."

-- of course. we'd planned for possibly worse.

i think you answered his questions well, and he was obviously impressed (we
could tell b/c he shut up!). the only thing i noticed is that you go into a
lot of detail when you answer a question of his; the logical, organizational
flow is there, but sometimes it is a slow flow. the detail and meticulous
source quoting is quite neccessary in a print form, but might be a bit
redundant for a radio audience. just a suggestion - you're appearance was
terriffic!

-- i do the source quoting because i can, and that's not likely to change as
it lends attribution that is usually sorely lacking. however, your deeper
point about content is one that i was actively being coached on with scott
in the breaks... and indeed some of the points were too drawn out; but then
i've never worked in this form before.

as for barb's email to the list, i sincerely thought that she made a
mistake in sending that email to the list... why would someone send to the
list a letter that looks like it's only addressed to one person (dr. byron),
and that furthermore trashes the list incessantly?

-- i don't think it was an accident. :)

i'll grant you, i was angry at first, but i edited my response a few times
before sending it. i tried to engender a sense that, even though she did
not agree with us, i would be happy to explain where we are coming from. i
did not see her post as an attack, but rather, a mistake. given that,
although she did admit to spying (and that did anger me), i did do my best
to "laugh it off" and let her know that we were not a hateful group and were
open to her difference of opinion.

obviously, david interpreted this letter differently than i. perhaps he
is right; this *was* an attempt to "stab and retreat." but, in my opinion,
i don't think that analyzing someone who we only know through a few lines of
email is very wise. maybe if i was a psychology major, i'd feel differently
(you can blame all that nietzsche stuff on my german major!) but how does
analyzing a person in public help that person? i certainly acknowledge you
and anyone's right to do it, but what does that solve? i think the points
you make about fundamentalism are good, but on their own merit, without
having to publicly (and remotely) deconstruct a person's psyche - like you
said, we all were able to brush this attack off pretty easily. i certainly
am not saying your analysis was factually or logically wrong. was the point
of the whole analysis to explain what barb is going thru and to help us feel
compassion for her?

-- yes. some of us could brush it off easily, not all! this can stand as a
teaching for our members in the future to (hopefully) not respond to
provocation and understand the deep metaphysics of where such attacks
emanate from. and on another level... it's a free reading! i've certainly
done this for many people before, and it can be intense. and with this new
document, which i will encourage people to read, i'm going to make the point
more specific that when a person posts to this list, they're making a free
will decision to have every word they say analyzed, potentially speaking. or
not. in the future i want that point to be very clear to posters... all the
while realizing that attacks are not likely to produce this type of response
any more, now that the statement has been put out there.

> we disagree with this woman. she has her path. we all already do
respect that - so why go to the trouble of explaining why we're "better"
than her? don't get me wrong - i know *you* don't think this. but if she
read your whole email, what would she think? like i said in my reply to
her, i would much rather her know what we're talking about and think we're
wrong than have no idea what we're about, and still think we're wrong.

-- remember that such letters are attacks... and as ra stated, in higher
densities we learn the wisdom to refrain from battle. since we haven't
necessarily gotten to a point as a group where we are completely unmoved by
ad-hominum attacks, i wanted this to stand as an everlasting document to
draw upon in future situations. actually, since this letter was the first of
its kind i ended up using it to create just that very "policy statement," so
the work doesn't need to be redone. someone might be able to use it to get
out of a cult situation.

i was aware of the potentials for distortion, but i'm almost certain that
this person has already unsubscribed; that's usually the pattern and we have
very few unsubscriptions. furthermore, although it took me a long time to
write, i was very careful to remain transparent in personality as much as i
could and simply provide a vividly clear mirror of what was there. and that
in turn led a five-minute project into an all-day dissertation.

i've given a lot for people to deconstruct and analyze; this list involves a
measure of trust that i can self-disclose without fear. let's stay grounded
in the realization that we don't need to even respond to these types of
email; if there's 200 people on this list and not a one is moved but the
harmony proceeds, then i've done my job. this email was the most powerful
messaging tool we've ever had to trigger this level of understanding, in my
opinion.

> anyway, it's not too big of a deal in the scheme of things, just wanted
to share my reaction. i certainly don't want to take more of your time,
david, by forcing you to reply to this - just wanted to give feedback on
some points.

-- that's okay, i've pretty much given up on doing any book work until i get
back from dc on monday.

loving ciii - your explanation of "scalar waves" is the first i have ever
understood!!! i'm looking forward to really sinking my teeth into it this
summer, now that my time off work is "my" time - not homework time.

-- cool. now you're getting a cosmic education to augment the physical
one... :)

guess i'll get back to reading ciii...

take care,

jeremy

p.s. never followed news about the pope much, but from what you're
saying about his reconciliation with the muslims, he really is trying to
make a worthy effort at uniting the religions in peace. i also read he's
trying to reconcile with the eastern orthodox church. they're not too
receptive, yet. he must feel very strongly about these efforts, since he's
obviously very determined (even in his deteriorating physical condition).

-- yes, i thought that had a lot to do with it; he said "to heck with the
assassination risks, i'm going for it!"

peace be with you -

- david

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Jeremy Weiland
05-10-2001, 01:31 PM
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><font face="arial" size="2">i think a lot of us have that problem, myself included... i guess both fundamentalists and new agers have their respective "catalysts" :-)</font>
><font face="arial" size="2">later,</font>
><font face="arial" size="2">jeremy</font>
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style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: aaron elder (karnisov@hotmail.com)
style="font: 10pt arial">to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
style="font: 10pt arial">sent: thursday, may 10, 2001 2:27 am
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: re: [asc2k] a group overview, for new members - please read
>
<tt>wow what an opus of an email david. in reflecting on my reply i suppose i
have alot of residual anger toward christians i need to address. i would
like to apolgize to barb for getting wound up and winging that reply off the
top of my head.
aaron


>from: "david wilcock" <djw333@exis.net>
>reply-to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
>to: <asc2k@yahoogroups.com>
>subject: [asc2k] a group overview, for new members - please read
>date: wed, 9 may 2001 19:11:00 -0400
>
>hello, fellow evolving god-beings,
>
>this is definitely going to be a post worth reading, possibly useful for
>publication on the "website guidelines for email discussion" section. it's
>ended up taking me all day and has gone through a number of edits. let me
>tackle the recent letter from barb, which obviously represents a minority
>opinion, possibly a one-person minority, as it will illuminate some areas
>for those of us who are new to this list. most defamatory / character
>assaulting letters will not receive responses, and i am not going to give
>any further energy to this discussion than what is presented herein. again,
>experience will prove that this is not a pavlovian system where people
>expect to tease a response out of me by broadstroke condemnations. as a
>result of my innate spiritual freedom, nothing that anyone says or does
>will
>hurt me or cause me to feel negative emotions.
>
>(i wasn't always like this, but have worked the process since late last
>december with great success! thank you korga! you were my catalyst, dear
>friend, and we finally worked it out when i clarified the difference
>between
>total ascension to the seventh or eighth "density" (which many ancient
>eastern teachings have tried to instill, giving the being an opportunity to
>have ascended abilities and traverse the higher realms at will) and
>"public"
>ascension to the fourth density! there's nothing in my mind now except a
>renewed desire to serve clearly, in this case by spending all day answering
>this question.)
>
>i will be more than happy to let stony silence stand in the future when
>such
>posts are made and have others speak up instead. however, we're all
>learning
>together, and some of us will naturally express some measure of return
>hostility that might elicit positive feelings to the individual and group
>mind, but nevertheless is unwarranted. (so far, it has not been enough to
>get booted off the list, though... we're very forgiving, all learning
>together and need to foster that "safe" atmosphere... :)
>
>so with that, i'll post the original letter in its entirety for comparison
>and analysis purposes:
>
>"dearest byron,
>
>"donned with the full armor, i tend to like to "spy" (for lack of a better
>phrase) on the enemy. this group has me stumped. do you know what they
>are
>talking about. i know it has something to do with what they think is the
>"evolution" of the earth and the so called ascended masters - one of which
>is maitreya - and the fact that all of us hateful believers of the one and
>true jesus will not be involved in this lurch forward....
>
>[note: before we ever go on any further, there is no mention of "maitreya"
>anywhere on the ascension2000 site. in section two of the time of global
>shift tour, ana rincon mentions that there is a buddhist prophecy regarding
>the return of a "maitreya" that many believe is scheduled for the present
>moment, and this is simply advanced as another data point to show the
>cross-cultural focus on the time that we are now in as one of great
>spiritual change. that's all we say. however, there is indeed a man who
>seems to have claimed that he is a messiah, calls himself "maitreya" and is
>obviously a confused, distorted and predominantly negative, power-seeking
>being. the rest of the above arguments will be tackled later... but for
>now,
>remember this quote that joe myers just mentioned to me on the phone:
>
>jesus once said, "who made me a judge over my brother?"
>
>think about that line if addressing someone from the "wwjd" (what would
>jesus do) perspective. we'll deal with the "one and true jesus" line as we
>go. and now, the rest of the letter:]
>
>"they talk alot about nazis and nietzsche (do you have any clue what that
>is???) i'm tryin' to understand this so i can be a proper "watchman":)
>
>[note: nietzsche is a philosopher who you would learn about in any
>introductory college philosophy class. his core "nihilistic" beliefs, as i
>understand them, are extremely distorted and completely irrelevant to any
>discussions on this list, though jeremy has studied them in a little more
>detail than did i. my mention of him was in the context of a joke only, as
>the archives show. this group has been around since some time last
>november,
>i believe, and as others pointed out the last three emails had this thread
>in some form out of a total of 600 or more, making it less than one half of
>one percent of all emails.]
>
>"did you hear about that school in nyc that has banned mother's day and
>father's day in the name of political correctness???? my lord, come
>quickly!
>
>"love ya, doc,
>barb"
>
>let's not forget that even in naked silence, most of those on this group
>have the discernment to see right where people are in their posts, and no
>harm is done. that quote again returns: "it is the same to take offense as
>it is to give offense." think about that statement and read the above
>letter
>again. then think about that statement and read some of the rebuttals on
>the
>list as well. this works both ways. to be the highest examples we can be,
>we
>should demonstrate that we are unmoved by others' statements and simply
>remain in a place of understanding and compassion for the sorrows of
>third-density life and the never-ending ontological struggle of human being
>searching for ultimate being, or "the search for god."
>
>and being unmoved also means that we are unafraid to discuss any
>participant's statements at the deepest, truest level, even if that
>participant may feel quite insulted and not like what they see in the
>aftermath. my response is intended to be a cogent reply to the leading
>question, which was certainly not very loving to anyone except to dr. byron
>___, who may or may not even be a member of this list, i'm not certain.
>barb's letter is filled with judgments and attacks that demonstrate a very
>brief, incomplete assessment of this material that most others here could
>easily address, as has already been done with lightning speed! all are
>automatically excluded in this letter except "the doc," with the emphasis
>on
>his ph.d. further delineating the "us and them" mentality.
>
>remember that to participate here by posting such comments is to **enter
>statements for review by your own free will decision...** which may result
>in some degree of *analysis of the messenger* that could prove embarassing
>or even humiliating to the originating party. others should keep this in
>mind; the people on this list possess deep wisdom and profound
>psychological
>insight; so, what may start as a simple free-willed complaint could turn
>into a "reading" of the soul's strengths and weaknesses. this is a forum...
>and you should expect all manner of responses! it is your free will to
>submit a "gift" to the group consciousness to be digested in this manner!
>
>so if you have an adroit fondness for christianity (fundamentalist or
>otherwise) and feel that all else is a distortion, then find a good church
>near your home, attend bible study, join christian newsgroups and leave it
>at that. you'll have all that you need for where you're at, and certainly
>would not need to create the role of "watchman" for yourself and disrupt
>our
>group harmony, carefully built up on wilcock and his contributors'
>lifetime(s) of effort, (such as rod johnson's sequential physics,) now
>freely given on the website. ra's suggestion that "if you can't be of
>service, then withdraw" is perfect in light of this situation here.
>condemning statements are almost never a service to others, except as a
>means of enhancing the fidelity and communication of all those who feel
>offended by the statements.
>
>if you think that we're all mad as hatters, then recognize that one brief,
>ill-tempered email rushed off without the proper background research of the
>website (which admittedly would take at least a month or two, and i was
>only
>on art bell one and three weeks ago, respectively) is not likely to be of
>any service to us. furthermore, this judgmental statement has probably only
>reinforced the majority's predisposed view of fundamentalist christians,
>thus further insuring that others will not come to the "one and true jesus"
>as per barb's definition.
>
>i think that what prompted barb's letter (who may have already unsubscribed
>by now, someone did, that tends to be the pattern, stab and retreat) is the
>fact that, compared to other times in our history, we now have more than
>200
>folks on this list and very few of them have been compelled to write
>anything. most likely, this has as much to do with myself as with anyone
>else, as i've been working very busily to finish convergence iii and
>recover
>from the all-night experience with ab recently. tomorrow i'm off to dc for
>the next two phases of the disclosure conferences as an invited guest, so
>now is a hectic time to say the least.
>
>we're all busy. there's a lot of stuff to read on this website. the
>vibrations are quickening. we're all feeling it. we're all going through
>it,
>regardless of color or creed. i had a guy email me and try to tell me that
>all our troubles are from "race mixing," and that was the only letter that
>i
>didn't even honor with a brief answer, it was so flatly negative. i rented
>and watched "bamboozled" by spike lee as an antidote, crying my eyes out at
>the controversial ending as well as at other points. and a letter like this
>is "religionist," only a few steps away from being "racist" and coming from
>the same exclusionist attitudes.
>
>in the past, when written letters (often those of a cursory or attacking
>nature in particular) have triggered long litanies from me, (and all that
>can be found within the archives) it tends to get things rolling.
>controversy, coupled with my own participation, greases the gears to be
>sure! unfortunately this becomes less and less likely of a prospect, as my
>schedule is truly growing... i now am blessed with approximately triple the
>email volume that i had prior to ab, with huge surges of 150&#43; a day at the
>times i'm on the show. i'm working on that piece where "it's not
>overwhelming if you don't choose it to be..." so now i've scaled back my
>expectations and my letter-writers get smaller responses... much smaller.
>most emails are multi-question, multi-page affairs, with single-sentence,
>single-topic replies... :)
>
>so as a result of this overall lack of group activity, even given the
>enormous amount of personal email i have received, the new socio-political
>developments and the final release of fifteen chapters of my
>long-anticipated new book, the content of this group would appear to be
>rather minimal.
>
>[the socio-political developments include the pope officially endorsing
>mutual forgiveness and acceptance of islam. have you watched the news
>lately? go to http://www.cnn.com and see; he's actually saying "a salaam
>aleiakum" (the god in me honors the god in you) and engaging in muslim
>customs such as kissing the soil... (uh-oh... unity? cooperation? anything
>but that! :) we're also seeing the "disclosure" event occurring right as
>i
>write!]
>
>so, despite these developments that should trigger discussion, if someone
>had joined this list without really doing the 'homework,' which by
>necessity
>would involve reading at least some of shift of the ages / convergence iii
>and poring through the readings archives for things that look interesting,
>then any assessment of the work would be characteristically myopic.
>
>this list is intended as an augmentation for the study of the site, so that
>as the questions and "stumpings" raised by the complex material on the
>website come about, you can discuss them with others instead of simply
>emailing wilcock, who is often way too overloaded to respond with anything
>more than one-sentence gratuities as of late... and it's only going to get
>worse. don't even ask how many people have been waiting patiently for
>readings... we're still suspending all dream reading operations, (and
>thereby all normal funding sources) until we can finish the entire book for
>the public to read freely! :)
>
>one can surmise that barb's comments originate from my desire not to
>exclude
>art bell from the topics that dr. mandelker and myself were discussing. you
>have to know your host, and in this case i've listened to enough shows to
>know that art often goes into a mode where he starts "tuning out" when he's
>dealing with guests who he really doesn't want to attack. what makes him
>tune out? new age metaphysics and lingo, repetition of words like "god,"
>christan bible-thumping, claims of channeling, et cetera. everyone tries to
>grab the microphone and the podium and drop their own rant, while
>consequently disregarding art's needs and desires as a host... james van
>praagh didn't touch art's comment "i'm not so sure about the christian view
>of god" with a ten-foot pole! otherwise, he did a great job!
>
>however, if art feels that his guests can take it, then he will attack. he
>did this with us by making the comment, "now you can say whatever you want,
>but i want to say this. everybody talks about how great this (ascension) is
>going to be... but it's going to turn us all into hamburger! poof! all we
>know for certain is that we're all going to die, right?" i had to then
>explain, in detail, a case for why these higher electromagnetic fields we
>are now experiencing will produce a transmutation of the physical body into
>a higher state of energetic vibration. for other examples of art attacking
>his guests, take the first two appearances that hoagland had with art after
>he returned to the radio. the second show with eugene mallove on free
>energy
>was especially intense, as far as conflict goes. usually art is not as
>blatant in his critiques as what i encountered with laura lee, but art can
>certainly dish it out.
>
>so 'know your host.' what does that mean? my host said, just less than a
>week prior to when i was on the air with him, that he had "some serious
>problems with the christian idea of god." so many people get on this show
>and essentially end up using art... they get the microphone and deliver
>their two cents' worth, and they really haven't studied him or learned his
>character traits. they're inevitably quick to market their wares in the
>hopes of making gobs and gobs of money (which by the way is far less likely
>to happen then they think it will be; after all, there's a new guest every
>night and the net provides unlimited information gratification.)
>
>at the fellowship church that i attend here in virginia beach and have
>spoken at, the same thing happens. people do sunday services and they never
>attend otherwise; they don't really know the congregation's attitudes,
>emotions and needs, and in some cases they deliver sermons that have little
>or nothing to do with where the group-mind is at. nevertheless, they're
>satisfied within themselves (often visibly so) at delivering what they
>think
>the word of god really is.
>
>so, by honoring art's needs, i directly addressed his previous statements,
>showing that i wanted him to be beside us as we continued forward and i was
>sensitive to his own concerns. there is no judgment in saying that humans
>innately anthropomorphize god, imbuing their idea of god with human
>qualities; it is very easily seen.
>
>my key point is this: for millions of inhabited planets in one galaxy
>alone,
>with an infinity of galaxies that have never been determined to have an
>ending point, can we ever even begin to tackle these "ultimate questions"
>with anything but humility, reverence and awe, along with a completely open
>mind? as maurice chatelain said in his book, "can we really imagine that
>every planet in the universe is required to have jesus arrive, be crucified
>and resurrected, in order to insure their ongoing spiritual welfare?"
>especially in light of the ancient civilizations that we now know of on
>earth alone!
>
>now turning our focus away from the cosmic and back to the local, we have
>someone who listened that night and was compelled to join this group,
>probably as a result of being angered by this comment. to get right down to
>the core of this issue, there's a lot of pain in someone who would write a
>letter like this, and we can feel compassion for that fact. simple
>psychology shows that this being feels an increasing loss of control in its
>environment, and a consequent feeling of despair. let's review the issues:
>
>1. the letter expresses regret over the "loss" of mother and father's day
>in
>one single school in one single city. ("did you hear about that school in
>nyc that has banned mother's day and father's day in the name of political
>correctness????") this demonstrates a focus on the apparent importance of
>human social conventions, while not realizing that god is not contained in
>mother's day or father's day; god is far too vast to ever be confined to a
>holiday, or a definition, or a religious sect. you could lose all the
>holidays under a completely despotic, dictatorial government and god is
>unmoved.
>
>one school within one city changing its policies is very, very transient in
>light of the cosmic plan that is now unfolding before us. other planets
>have
>had it far worse than ourselves; this harvest is actually relatively
>positive and smooth compared to other "borg"-type situations where the
>negative polarity is the dominant force involved. we're already nearly
>three
>years outside of the worst-case scenario probabilities for our future that
>were seen by cayce only 60 years ago; 1998 came and went without a hitch,
>though we could have had the complete loss of california and a polar shift
>already by this point.
>
>however, to a being that is feeling overwhelmed by the "illusion" of life
>in
>our current plane, the adaptation or elimination of human cultural
>conventions (such as holidays) can appear very distressing. if this is the
>case, then such beings will only find themselves growing more and more
>desperate as these months proceed. very little of the current order will
>remain before the shift itself, and we're now way past the point where any
>thinking person can deny it; if they live in california they don't have
>lights for the second day in a row today, including traffic lights, and
>like
>chicago, they will be paying $3.00 a gallon for gasoline within another two
>months or less. this is real.
>
>but all the above that i've just said is nothing; it's a snow job; it's
>only
>answering the external statement without the internal pain. the real issue
>is much deeper, should be obvious, and is one that we should all have
>compassion for. possibly as a mother, but even more deeply and
>subconsciously as the divine feminine (or goddess spirit) of the earth at
>this time, this being is feeling a lack of love, a lack of respect for who
>and what it is. now is not the time right before father's day, it is the
>time right before mother's day. and this points to where the real pain is.
>this letter is a cry for help, in many ways similar to the intentions of a
>suicide note. it would undoubtedly draw stinging fire in almost all cases,
>thus emphasizing the suicidal quality to it.
>
>woman, goddess, mother, we love you. we respect you. we honor you. we
>revere
>you. we know that most human beings on this planet have gotten caught up in
>the patriarchal structures; that is all changing now. in the past you had a
>total matriarchal system, and we now know from experience that this didn't
>work either. unity is, and always has been, the key.
>
>take the words from dr. neil peart, ph.d. psychology, drummer and
>songwriter
>for the band "rush." he touches on this male-female archetypal struggle so
>beautifully, calling it the battle between love and reason, associating it
>with the right and left hemispheres of the brain (the album is called
>hemispheres.)
>
>peart uses greek mythology to make his point. apollo is the god associated
>with the feminine / love / right brain archetype, and dionysus is
>associated
>with the masculine / reason / left brain archetype. cygnus is the god of
>the
>greek mythos who came to unify the two perspectives of love and reason, and
>at this point in the song they have finally heard his cry for unity:
>
>"apollo was astonished,
>dionysus thought me mad.
>but they heard my story further,
>and they wondered, and were sad.
>
>looking down from olympus
>on a world of doubt and fear,
>it's surface splintered into
>sorry hemispheres...
>
>[guitar solo]
>
>they sat a while in silence,
>then they turned at last to me,
>"we will call you cygnus,
>the god of balance you shall be...""
>
>then the reprise, a beautiful melody set to a very nice, very simple
>strumming guitar track, really socks it home:
>
>"we can walk our roads together,
>if our goals are all the same.
>we can run alone and free,
>if we pursue a different aim.
>
>let the truth of love be lighted;
>let the love of truth shine clear;
>sensibility,
>armed with sense and liberty,
>with our heard and mind united
>in one single,
>perfect,
>sphere..."
>
>if you love this album you'll know why there are tears in my eyes right
>now.
>will we ever understand... (i guess i'm not yet transparent in
>personality... :)
>
>2. the stated desire for "my lord" to come quickly, coupled with the
>utterly
>distorted sentence that "all of us hateful believers of the one and true
>jesus will not be involved" contains a whale of a lot of hidden information
>about the nature of its writer, and it will take us a number of paragraphs
>to break it down. so before we go into the idea of the compartmentalization
>of the infinitely vast oneness into something that is exclusive only to
>this
>being, (through the use of the word "my",) let's begin by saying that this
>statement implies that we've said that all fundamentalist christians are
>not
>ready for harvest.
>
>quite to the contrary, the only thing that matters for each person is
>whether or not they have truly chosen to serve others, hence serving god. a
>fundamentalist could certainly make this choice under those conditions with
>sufficient purity, providing that they are not actively going around
>proselytizing and attacking others. we've all heard every sect try to say
>that their god is the only true god. if you serve this ultimate being,
>oneness or "true" god by loving all others as yourself, then you have
>applied the higher teachings.
>
>you're here to make one simple choice... nothing else matters... will it be
>manipulation, control and enslavement of others or love, care and support
>for them? if you choose love and service to others then it must be
>unconditional love. smile. be nice. be friendly. love people. treat the
>girl
>at the grocery store and the man at the gas station with the respect they
>deserve as fellow co-creators, no higher or lower than yourself. it is not
>your responsibility to figure out whether they believe in jesus or not, or
>to treat them any differently if they did than if they didn't. if you're
>not
>doing that, then you're making the opposite choice, which is to manipulate
>and enslave them. this should be simple enough, but for a number of reasons
>having to do with negative interference, it is not.
>
>wilcock's statements on art bell that "there is no judgment involved in
>this
>[ascension] process" and "it truly does not matter what faith you are",
>that
>"the only thing that matters is how much you have become a reflection of
>god
>in your personal desire to serve others" sounds good enough to most new
>agers... but to others it is completely explosive. such a statement can
>certainly be disconcerting, even exasperating to those whose ego
>consciousness is heavily invested in the idea of "being right" and thereby
>asserting others as "being wrong." and as we go i'll explain exactly what i
>mean by that.
>
>my personal experience has proven time and time again that this entire
>"religious" behavior complex originates from feelings of profound inner
>guilt over the past, which in turn lead to the idea that an outside divine
>force must "forgive" the being instead of that being taking the
>responsibility to forgive itself. most people in these situations claim
>that
>self-forgiveness is impossible, if you can get them into a candid and
>honest
>discussion about it, which i have often done.
>
>all too often i have heard born-agains and fundamentalists claim that their
>'sins' are far too extreme for them to be able to ever forgive themselves.
>they say this because *that is what they are taught in their worship
>services.* i've gone and heard it myself. this teaching is what allows
>these
>groups to enslave their members, convince them to pay extraordinarily high
>tithes and attend services all throughout the week, not just on sundays.
>the
>idea that it is impossible to forgive yourself comes from the negative
>polarity, which ra claims is locally headed up by negative entities in
>fourth and fifth density who originate from a star system in the orion
>constellation. the negative polarity desires control and enslavement, and
>"seeks the aggrandizement of self or of social organizations with which
>self
>identifies."
>
>forgive the stark analogy, but let's enter in a far more extreme and ugly
>form of negative polarity enslavement for comparison. when you volunteer
>for
>the suicide hotline, they show you these very shocking films where you see
>the freshly-battered wife, replete with huge black and blue marks on her
>face, going through an entrance interview for a shelter. the counselor
>says,
>"you do acknowledge that he tried to kill you; he hit your head with the
>back of his gun." she replies, "yes... but i still love him." sadly, it is
>immediately evident that the person has completely handed over their own
>power to an outside entity.
>
>why did i use such a violent analogy? not because people have been
>physically assaulted in these facilities... (ah, you say... but they have.
>every week there's a new story about pastors drinking alcohol, abusing
>tithes / donations "to god" for personal gain and accosting church members
>sexually...) essentially, those wife-beaters have convinced their wives
>that
>life without them is simply not possible; that there is no other possible
>man for them but him. getting out of these relationships becomes difficult
>or even seemingly impossible... seemingly. all enslavement begins by
>teaching the enslaved beings that slavery is by far the preferred choice
>for
>them, if not the only choice.
>
>usually on a much smaller scale of intensity, these churches work the same
>way. people often come to them when their spiritual and mental bodies
>(sometimes physical as well) are in as sorrowful a condition as the
>battered
>wife. i've attended various fundamentalist churches without indicating the
>full range of my beliefs, and can state from first-hand experience that you
>can get a very strong "love" hit when you go there. this is an undeniable
>fact, and you can prove it for yourself, though i don't recommend it.
>
>in fact, in one case a preacher was saying a prayer that was totally
>channeled, and every now and then you could hear his ego kick in and
>disrupt
>the channeling by going into a sentence or two of standard, rote dogma
>about
>the blood of jesus before he'd give himself up to the flow again and
>continue to utter words of immaculate purity. back and forth, back and
>forth, a mostly positive channel (who doesn't even realize what he is
>doing)
>who is continually tainting the message to the needs of the ego.
>
>in a loose sense it reminded me of a freestyle rap music artist who can get
>long passages of material straight from the mind, and breaks it up with
>standard "licks" of filler material in between. (freestyle rappers can go
>for minutes on end producing rhyming verse that is totally original and
>improvised... but most of them have an armada of pre-planned statements
>that
>they use to keep the "flow" going, just like the preacher i mentioned...
>
>i know, because back in college i "dueled" another freestyle rapper in a
>club and actually "won." (one of the few times i've ever been in a club.)
>it
>was late at night, with an awesome funk drumbeat and real syncopated,
>delicious, groovin', movin' bassline... i had already been sober for two
>years and could keep spilling out rhyming, rhythmic god-conscious,
>non-offensive verse at breakneck speed without slipping up or repeating
>myself. i was amazed to hear all this pouring out of myself, as i had never
>tried to do it before. the other guy kept running out of steam and falling
>back on pre-planned material. at the time i didn't realize how i was
>getting
>the information, i just knew that as long as i concentrated very hard, it
>would keep coming... :)
>
>so yes... you can go to these churches and be "fed..." but it comes at a
>heavy price. fundamentalist churches use all the standard cult tactics for
>behavior modification and "brainwashing," though most of them don't realize
>it. how is this done? read on...
>
>cult brainwashing involves building your followers up slowly with a
>foundation of teachings, then raising them to a state of supreme spiritual
>euphoria, and then right in that moment hitting them with a statement that
>ties together all the loose ends that you've been dripping in a little at a
>time. pow!
>
>now this final statement usually is the "hardest sell" of the whole
>discourse; it is the statement that will eventually convince that person to
>trade the love that they have received from almost everyone else in the
>world (the woman in the grocery store, man at the gas station, family and
>friends, etc.) for the love they are feeling in that moment. it emphasizes
>the lack of love that they have felt from all others up until that moment
>and aggrandizes the superiority of the love that they are now receiving. it
>is the statement that makes them feel that 'everyone else is wrong' and now
>they must completely commit themselves body, mind and spirit to the group.
>remember that the cult leader wants them to believe that everyone else in
>the world, including their friends and family, are "outside" the "chosen"
>circle unless they are also a part of the group.
>
>remember, now, all this gets started because the person feels extreme
>guilt,
>and in their group they are told that they cannot and should not try to
>forgive themselves for what they "did." instead, they must surrender their
>resistance and turn over all their spiritual, mental and physical
>(financial) power to the group. even though they believe that they are
>worshipping jesus, or the heavenly father (who is above jesus in the
>standard trinity view,) what they are actually doing is worshipping the
>group, worshipping the pastor as proxy and spokesman for jesus, and
>worshipping a set of beliefs. instead of worshipping god, they worship
>their
>beliefs! think about it. this should remind us of most scientists as well,
>since it is the exact same phenomenon, only in a different category.
>
>so again, they feel that they cannot forgive themselves. therefore, their
>only option was to adhere to the belief that they could be 'washed by the
>blood of the lamb' so that jesus' death 2000 years ago "paid the ransom"
>for
>their "sins." this is by far the most egregious (=grotesque) distortion of
>modern christianity; the idea that simply saying "i accept christ" can
>eliminate any further engagement in the personal healing and initiation
>process, and that by such a statement the road to heaven is totally paved,
>and in one fell swoop you've "gone the distance." christ's teachings
>focused
>so much on self-responsibility and that has been almost hopelessly lost.
>why
>did he insist on calling himself "the son of man" instead of the son of
>god?
>most people do not actually read the bible; they read small excerpts from
>the bible that are heavily laced with spin-controlled context from the head
>of their group.
>
>but is it truly impossible to relieve your own guilt from within, contrary
>to cult dogma? yes. to forgive yourself is to claim your own divine power
>without a proxy, and accept yourself. to accept yourself is to become the
>creator, to realize what you already are. this is standard ra teaching:
>"forgive yourself, accept yourself, become the creator." to make that step
>of "claiming the i am" is to dig deep within the self until the realization
>comes that you are the "one" ***in the same way that everyone and
>everything
>else is the one***... and thereby you must forgive yourself to receive
>god's
>forgiveness. in a universe of oneness there is no other selfhood but
>oneness!
>
>so again, the fundamentalist viewpoint creates a unique distortion, where
>the person fully believes and is told in their sunday services that their
>own self-forgiveness is impossible; they were born in "original sin" and
>are
>automatically condemned. (yes, i know, folks, this is such tired old stuff,
>but some people do still believe it!) the idea of "original sin" is only a
>gloss for people's subconscious self-condemnation of their own "original
>sins" earlier in their life, before their "pentecost;" we could call it
>"original guilt." since they are categorically denied access to god by
>their
>innate "sin" from the very foundation of humankind, (and subconsciously
>denied access to god from their own self-condemnation,) their "ticket to
>heaven" hinges only on the divine forgiveness that they feel has been
>granted through their belief structure.
>
>(yes, it sounds a little complex. sorry. i'm sure others here would be glad
>to round out this whole set of concepts... but for now we'll keep on
>explaining it. :)
>
>you can't self-forgive if you're automatically a sinner, with jesus as the
>only passageway out of "the lake of fire" where you'll "burn for all
>eternity" after your death! (they truly believe this is real and i've had
>clients who, as children, were shown vicious, realistic propaganda / horror
>films of people supposedly burning alive! really!)
>
>so if you are one of these people, then realize that your apparently
>automatic condemnation before god (which is only your mirror for your own
>self-condemnation) places *absolute importance* upon the integrity and
>inherent "rightness" of your group's belief structure, and their
>particular,
>narrow interpretation of jesus -- the specific definition of god that they
>believe to have forgiven them. (this has almost nothing to do with jesus
>the
>son of man, as he insisted that he be called!) thus, you will vigorously
>seek out and "fight" those who would challenge their definition of god, as
>we have seen on our board.
>
>those who have read percival's "thinking and destiny" (are you listening
>korga?... :) will know that these groups do indeed build up thought-form
>'gods' that are constantly warring with each other and are essentially
>negative beings. the more they hate and condemn others, feel incessant
>fear,
>worry and guilt and seek to aggrandize themselves and their group, the more
>they feed the negative beings with power, which in turn gives them more
>worldly power. this in turn will eventually lead to holy wars and all other
>events that fractionalize and splinter the group consciousness of humanity.
>
>here we are one planet amongst millions of other inhabited planets just in
>this galaxy, and yet we have so many different groups, and each one of them
>is completely convinced that they are correct. yet, if god is one then we
>should honor each person's path as completely legitimate... which is
>exactly
>what ra does. some might work more quickly than others but all are
>ultimately sacramental in their own right, as everyone and everything is
>god. this is the message that the extraterrestrials bring us for today.
>
>in the fundamentalist / cult brainwashing scenario, true oneness is
>impossible, because their specific definition of god and all the "rules"
>that go with it is required to be correct, or that person's entire
>understanding of personal "salvation" (which short-circuits their
>participation in self-forgiveness) would appear to be destroyed. and
>they've
>worked and chewed on these concepts so many times in their minds that
>they've got very little left to hold onto in the aftermath; not all are
>lucky enough to have a sympathetic friend who can ease their transition out
>of the cult and into a more open form of spirituality.
>
>so, should this definition of god be successfully challenged, enough so
>that
>it causes them to rethink some of their positions, (dw: "there is no
>judgment in this process... it does not matter what faith you are... your
>own self-responsibility is the most important thing... your vibration is
>solely determined by how much you are willing to be of service to others")
>then they face the possibility of having to forgive themselves, of
>processing their own guilt from within instead of from without. this feels
>quite immediately distasteful, is not seen as remotely possible, and
>triggers the most bitter, venomous reactions, as we have now seen.
>
>hence, their entire guilt over their own past is challenged when their
>belief structure is challenged. at the deepest level, this inability to
>face
>the self is what then motivates them to enslave others. how do they try to
>enslave others? by making emphatic statements regarding the inherent
>correctness of their ideological constructs of faith, and blanket
>condemnations of all remaining worldviews. such letters are not written for
>no reason; they seek to "save" (read: enslave) whatever number of the 200
>or
>more souls on this list who they feel might be willing to pay homage to
>their own thought-form god, constructed on a complex foundation of
>specific,
>isolationist belief patterns. (never minding that the vast majority of
>folks
>have joined this list because of their love for the work on the asc2k
>website, and the legacy of the universal one or christ spirit... :)
>
>let's observe a bit more of how the negative polarity worked through this
>largely innocent and unsuspecting human participant. that very suppressed
>guilt, which is theoretically alleviated by jesus's blood, continues to
>grow
>and gnaw within as a very real force that causes the person to lash out at
>others. being "saved" is never enough... but the cults don't give much past
>that initial "boarding pass." now in this letter, the pain has been freshly
>aggravated by the nyc / mother's day incident and by wilcock's bold
>articulation of concepts that are too freeing for the existing dogma to
>hold
>up under. once the venom rises enough to allow the lash-out to occur, then
>the negative polarity has the perfect gateway through which to act. (see
>section 7 of the ra study guide on negative beings.)
>
>remember that the negative beings are doing this constantly, and most
>people
>are never, ever aware of how they are participating in allowing negative
>"psychic attacks" to work through them. all along they feel that it is
>totally their own free will, not realizing that the negative beings
>specialize in finding cases where you choose to enslave others through your
>own free will... and then they give you a massive boost of energy to go as
>far with it as you can go. (also remember that what we're doing with this
>work is a very high priority for negative attack, due to the possibility
>that it could increase the harvest in the short time remaining on earth
>before that event occurs.)
>
>so now we're into a deeper level of how this person so clearly articulated
>the basic premises of a negatively-oriented psychic attack. in the letter,
>notice the summoning of someone named "byron" who is apparently another
>group member and has a ph.d. such reverence for graduate-level education
>seems to indicate that the being considers this person to be "more
>important" than the combined voice of most others on this list. am i wrong?
>this person, coupled with jesus, is full armor! remember? this being now
>calling itself barb is at war! (and we are the mirror of this war within
>the
>being... and therefore should feel compassion in our responses and not
>indulge in the same energy.)
>
>then, with the appropriate forces summoned, as seen in the statement
>"donned
>with the full armor, i tend to like to "spy" (...) on the enemy...," the
>being throws out feelers and creates the sense that they've formed some
>sort
>of "corral" around the group (read: enslaved the group) and are closing in
>for the kill...
>
>wilcock is a nazi! you're all going to "hell!" now we've got you! (but
>alas,
>we might be willing to let a few of you sheep out of the corral to "save"
>(read: enslave) you... if you are willing to accept that we are always and
>forever correct and no one else will ever be. but you can't run with our
>crew until you realize that you were already condemned all this time
>(original sin,) you just never knew it before now!)
>
>you may need to read over this section number two a few times to understand
>this final statement, and if you don't get it then you're probably not
>ready
>to get it:
>
>deep, inner, un-acknowledged self-hatred is the motivating factor that
>leads
>fundamentalists to attack more open-minded folks. a unique situation has
>been created where they feel that if their faith is incorrect, then their
>own 'sins' are too awesome to permit them to make further spiritual
>progress
>into higher planes. thus, they believe that their entire soul evolution
>requires their faith to be correct. otherwise, they feel that they are in a
>lot of trouble, as long ago they had concluded that no one but jesus could
>forgive them, including themselves. remember. this is how they really feel.
>no jokes.
>
>therefore, if wilcock is anything but a nazi, then they feel they are in a
>lot of trouble. let's again remind ourselves of ra's statement of the
>"melting influence of love." if we choose not to love and accept ourselves,
>we can keep on incarnating in third-density indefinitely, continually
>handing over our power to proxies who will tell us that we're already
>there.
>all the while, what we've really needed is to simply accept and forgive
>ourselves for all that we have "done" in the past... and in that moment, we
>overcome self-hatred, which in turn allows us to be able to love and accept
>others as ourselves.
>
>so all that was number 2 on our list of comments that were made, and
>subsequent analyses. so let's move on now to numbers 3 and 4, remembering
>that our focus was on pointing out the obvious despair that this being is
>feeling, showing us how we can have better compassion for this being and
>helping to explain some of the fine points of philosophy that are required
>to understand this information:
>
>3. the letter states that the vibrational upgrade is a 'lurch forward.'
>such
>a statement shows this being's feelings of despair over the process itself,
>thus placing the emphasis on the difficulty and pain that would appear to
>be
>involved. if we choose to focus on the difficulty and pain, then we can see
>as much of it as we choose; fear and depression is a pit that knows no
>bottom. the secret is that it is entirely a free-will decision to
>participate in fear, worry and guilt! the extraterrestrials teach trust in
>this process.
>
>4. this letter betrays this being's open, blatant categorization of the
>souls on this list as the "enemy"... despite jesus' teachings to "turn the
>other cheek" and "love your enemies". that sad statement right there, in
>and
>of itself, indicates that this being is not yet ready for the fourth
>density, though this certainly could change in the time remaining. you want
>to join jesus' team? practice unconditional love. service to others is not
>conditional. you should rejoice that such material as the "time of global
>shift" seminar exists, as it proves that this cherished christian event is,
>in fact, real, from a scientific perspective that no longer requires "blind
>faith!"
>
>as many sources insist that this ascension event will occur in waves, we
>have been told that there will be many fundamentalists who will quite
>obviously see that the first wave has passed and realize that they were not
>a part of it. these cult-indoctrinated beliefs run so deeply that the
>person
>is capable of completely hating and villainizing the outside world, thus
>standing in complete opposition to the most basic "graduation
>requirements,"
>and yet completely believe that they are among "god's chosen people." this
>will create quite a surprise when they realize that they missed something
>big... and we have already been told that this will occur.
>
>so to summarize, for one who has studied the teachings on the
>ascension2000.com website, they know that the christ spirit is strongly
>revered. the very first link at the top of the page, "opening quotes," has
>a
>number of biblical statements and many of the readings in the archives
>mention the christ spirit, christ consciousness and christ within, and yes,
>jesus; this would be easily seen if, that is, the person is willing to take
>the time to find out. furthermore, edgar cayce, the primary inspiration for
>this work, was a christian sunday school teacher, a devout (yes,
>fundamentalist) christian who gradually came to accept the message from his
>readings.
>
>anyone who reads "the shift of the ages" far enough will see cayce's
>categorization of jesus as being the primary spiritual leader for this
>earth, having been "the first and last adam" as it says in the bible,
>meaning that he has been through many incarnations from amilius, who is the
>adam of the bible -- the first person to come in to try to help the
>enslaved
>human race, to jesus, the first person to ascend and clear the pathway for
>the remainder of the enslaved human race to realize that such an ascension
>is indeed possible. further analysis of the cayce readings indicates that
>jesus had other pivotal incarnations including thothermes trismestigus,
>(see
>chapter 15 of convergence iii near the end,) zend the father of zoroaster,
>enoch, melchizedek and more...
>
>many, many, many times wilcock and other contributors to this site have
>written that we are all to follow the "christ pattern" and experience our
>own "crucifixion of the ego" which comes about through facing the parts of
>ourselves that we did not yet integrate (father let this cup pass from me)
>and finally accepting god's will (not my will, o father-mother god, but thy
>will be done.) only once we accept god's will as our own and overthrow the
>"monkey mind" of the ego do we realize the resurrection / ascension
>process.
>
>jesus was the first to do this, but we've probably pointed out100 different
>times that jesus said, "as i do these things, so shall ye do them, and
>greater things, for i go unto my father [i accept god's will instead of my
>own.]" (john 14:12.) jesus is not the last to have done this. he
>categorically states that you will do the same things that he did... if you
>can accept god's will for yourself, within yourself, by forgiveness and
>acceptance, by handing over your personal ego motivations to those of the
>christ within. god does not want you to fractionalize and divide your
>fellow
>beings into categorized, labeled groups! just love them! ok?
>
>the one statement more than any other that has created the fundamentalist
>christian distortions is "i am the truth, the way and the life... no one
>can
>come unto the father but by me." as wilcock's readings have stated at least
>three or four different times, this is the i am presence or christ presence
>within each person that is speaking; what ra calls the higher self. no one
>can return to the oneness without accepting god's will, as manifested in
>their own inner christ. the same christ that awakened in jesus must awaken
>in everyone.
>
>so in this letter we now have some cards on the table regarding our
>spiritual intentions, through the narrow fisheye lens of this discussion
>group... which may or may not have any direct bearing on the work featured
>on the ascension2000 website (hopefully it does.) bearing that context in
>mind, let's go back to the letter's core statements.
>
>let's remember that we have an angry fundamentalist christian being on our
>hands who will vigorously defined its precise view of god. then, in a
>previous posting, wilcock mentions one word from nietzsche in a passing
>joke, later followed by a (very loose!) conjunction with statements about
>fundamentalists striving in vain to "convert" him, then someone else
>mentions "nazi" and boom!
>
>"wilcock is a nazi!"
>
>now the being has "seen" what it wants to see and mixed this
>hastily-concocted "recipe" together to form a non-existent case. no one on
>the list will take this seriously, and the statement in reality only
>externalizes the inner turmoil and grief of this being for naked public
>viewing. then when the others on this group attack and dish back the same
>meal from the opposite side, the being's despair is only further increased,
>its desire to promulgate the cult only further enhanced. so let's again
>think about the wisdom in "there is no such thing as an emotionally charged
>situation; either be of service or withdraw."
>
>this is a being in pain. remember this. let's curb our tongues and surround
>this being with light, that it may seek greater faith and trust in the
>spiritual process now unfolding on the earth at this time. for most
>third-density beings, earth changes are scary. economic collapse is scary.
>school shootings, war, et cetera, is scary. the spiritual forces are not
>trying to scare us by telling us what experiences still remain in the short
>time that we have left; and let us not forget that the bible has some of
>the
>"scariest" depictions of the time that we are now in that you will find in
>any spiritual literature!
>
>ultimately we must realize that it is our choice to feel fear, and there
>are
>negative beings out there who will feed on any fear energy that we produce.
>if you want to call them "demons" that is your choice, again... but that
>term is also a distortion, as they too will eventually return to the
>oneness
>after a prolonged struggle with healing their original separation from god.
>
>when dr. mandelker and i presented this information on the air, it wasn't
>easy material to digest; we're at a point now when many changes will be
>coming very swiftly, and we will have to experience them. if we choose fear
>then we will go through these changes with more trauma than if we choose
>trust... and now more than ever we need to foster a cooperative attitude so
>that we can harmoniously integrate with others in our own local areas as
>that need manifests itself.
>
>there is not much time left for things to stay the way they are... and
>we're
>not going to be able to turn the clock back on this one. yes, a part of me
>doesn't want to see it or go through it either... but we must keep
>reminding
>ourselves that god is our source, not a job, not a government, not a social
>structure, not a car, not a grocery store, but god. we will need to draw
>upon that resource more than ever for strength and calmness in the times
>immediately ahead.
>
>so to return to the core issue that started this letter, which is an
>ad-hominum attack on wilcock and those who participate in this group:
>
>it is always and forever a free-will decision on behalf of anyone to read
>the website, to join and participate on the list, to peruse our media
>appearances and the like. this makes it categorically impossible to "spy"
>on
>any of this work, as it is open to all; spying is primarily defined as "the
>covert viewing of deliberately concealed information." and unlike the vast
>majority of guests on the art bell show, there is no monetary exchange
>required for you to know the cards in this deck; they're all laid out
>there,
>nothing has been withheld that can only be found in a paid form.
>
>so live and let live. be friendly to us, or we'll ask you to leave, as we
>really don't need this type of a letter. i'll close with dr. fritz perls'
>"gestalt prayer:"
>
>you do your thing, and i'll do my thing.
>
>i am not in this world to live up to your expectations
>
>and you are not in this world to live up to mine.
>
>you are you, and i am i,
>
>and if by chance we meet, it's beautiful.
>
>and if not, it can't be helped.
>___
>
>i rest my case.
>
>peace be with you -
>
>- david
>
>

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