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David Wilcock

11-09-2000, 05:16 PM

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>hello to you all!
>
>i have been electronically notified that our friend debbie has unsubscribed. was she a funny mentalist? we'll never know, unless someone isgullible enough to give their information to the machine that she somehow was affiliated with. now some of you may feel that my statement to her was not warranted, or that i am "taking this too seriously."since it is relatively quiet out there i imagine that for most of us it was a non-event. but check this out... and listen, please! 
>
>the fact is that egroups has a very strict policy about spam - and this was certainly an unsolicited email. the fact is, if any of you complained to egroups about what this woman had done, then we could very well get shut down - just like that! furthermore, i could become legally responsible to pay damages to egroups out of my own pocket! that could mean all number of things, including forcing me out of the writing / readings / website publishing business entirely so i can get a regular job with regular wages so they can then be garnished! so yes, it is serious. i'm not being paranoid! the negative forces really do want to destroy the positive sources of light on this planet. read the statement below to see what i mean. if we want joy, we have to protect ourselves anduse compassionate wisdom.(the policy statement about this from egroups is at the end of this email - read it and see that it becomes our problem, not just a problem that she had by feeling that i treated her like a child.)
>
>apart from the damage that could be wrought to our group, if an active participant on this list decides to try to move merchandise, even if the initial merchandise is free, then this represents an abuse of this site and all participants on this list for "target marketing" to a knowingly metaphysical audience. none of the rest of us have done anything like this - we're here to engage in mind-expanding dialogue. add in the fact that this could certainly be a cult or religious organization, and something's rotten in the state of ascension2000. 
>
>although i own this list, i was never asked permission if this offerwas proper or okay topost - and no information whatsoever was given about it except for an 800 number, which indicates a commercial line that costs money to keep active. now our intrepid crusader steve foeller has braved the rapids and returned with a warning - they want your number, baby! please do yourselves a favor and let this rotten fruit drop from the vine from lack of attention! p.u., as they say! ;^(
>
>i am under constant bombardment from spam opportunists who harvest my email address and send me all sorts of commercial offers, due to its being publicly posted. as you can see on the main page where i list my email address, i am now taking a very aggressive stance against spam.i automatically ask to be removed from every letter, with no exceptions, and if (in many, many cases) the remove address is a fake or overloaded email address, i notify their server - which can be found in the email header. 
>
>we all need to be more proactive about this so that we can put an end to spam.believe it or not, i have made a significant dent in the spamvolume since i started doing this.if there is one thing that we have learned from this election debate so far, it's that our votes really do matter! bush is now only ahead in florida by a scant 225 votes - which certainly puts things in perspective. (yes, if you're interested i voted nader - i hadn't voted before except once for clinton when he was running against elder bush while i was in college.) 
>
>i certainly do not want my "spam disease" to transfer over to all of you. if this person wanted to post an excerpt from the book, in the context of discussion, and others expressed an interest in learning more about it, then the comment and phone number would be warranted. but to simply subscribe and drop a one-liner about this great new "handbook..." will not be tolerated, when i / we could get wiped out for such carelessness after so many of us have expressed our desire to have this forum through this server in particular. if you love me and love each other, don't get us in trouble! 
>
>i will very shortly be putting an additional sentence on the webpage right beneath the sign-up link so that others do not impale themselves upon the sword of truth in the future! if we were stuck in the fourth-density unconditional love trip, without incorporating the compassionate wisdom of 6d, (which oftentimes is very similar to the "tough love" thata parent must give,) then these types of things would overwhelm us and we would no longer be able to exist. as it is we are getting one or two new members a day and the list could quickly become quite a titan - so we need to set precedents now. if it gets really crazy then i might make it moderated and necessary for people to register at the beginning. 
>
>for those of you who are interested, here is what egroups has to say about unsolicited commercial email, which is linked at http://www.egroups.com/info/nospam.html.
>
>
<table width="90%" align="center">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>no spam! <blockquote>

it is against the egroups terms of service (http://www.egroups.com/info/tos.html) to use our service to send "spam," which is unsolicited email. if you send spam, we will delete your group and deactivate your account. we may also pursue legal damages. our terms of service also prohibit the following, which are often associated with spam:</blockquote>
<ul>
chain letters pyramid schemes "get rich quick" or "make money fast" (mmf) schemes
advertise-anything groups using or promoting software designed to harvest e-mail addresses [/list]
<blockquote>

*note: these are merely examples. egroups customer support retains the right to delete, at our discretion, groups who send spam or violate our terms of service. in addition, all egroups members must abide by our member guidelines (http://www.egroups.com/info/guidelines.html).</blockquote>

what egroups does to prevent spam
<blockquote>

egroups is committed to protecting its members from spam. although no email-based service is completely protected from spam, we take the following measures to protect you:</blockquote>
<ul>
group members' email addresses are obscured anywhere they appear on the egroups web site. they are available only to the moderator of a particular group. egroups will remove/ban users who propagate spam. anyone added or invited to a group is sent a notification message which includes email addresses to report spam abuse. moderators can require their approval of all messages before they're sent, as well as approval of all new subscribers to prevent known spammers from joining their groups. egroups moves swiftly when it receives a spam report. egroups will ban a member causing repeat or severe spamming problems and delete any group associated with these activities.
[/list]

how to report spam if you receive it
<blockquote>

if you are the victim of spam on egroups, or one claiming to be sent from egroups, please forward the offending message (as an attachment) to egroups-guidelines@yahoo-inc.com and we will take appropriate actions. note: it is very important to forward the email you received or we will have no way of tracking down the offender. </blockquote>

questions?
<blockquote>

if you have any further questions regarding our spam policy, please contact customer support (http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/egroups/cgi_feedback). we'll be happy to assist you.</blockquote></td></tr></tbody>

Jeremy Weiland

11-10-2000, 08:12 AM

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> david, i'm glad to have seen you posting so much, hope eveything's going smoothly, and thanks for staying in personal contact with us.
>
> agree with everything you said about spamming. absolutely.
>
> however, you're not implying that nader is the spirtually correct choice are you? the wanderers2000 group is fighting this one out, and i just wanted to make sure that we don't get into a political discussion on this list. it doesn't mean anything...
> 
> peace,
> jeremy
>
> p.s. i know that's not what you meant, david, but don't you think it's a little dangerous to bring politics into this list? you don't want to alienate people, i know... just a concern i have.
<blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-right: 0px">
style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: david wilcock (djw333@exis.net)
style="font: 10pt arial">to: asc2k@egroups.com
style="font: 10pt arial">sent: thursday, november 09, 2000 8:16 pm
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: [asc2k] no spam: commercial offers and future direction
>

>hello to you all!
>
>i have been electronically notified that our friend debbie has unsubscribed. was she a funny mentalist? we'll never know, unless someone isgullible enough to give their information to the machine that she somehow was affiliated with. now some of you may feel that my statement to her was not warranted, or that i am "taking this too seriously."since it is relatively quiet out there i imagine that for most of us it was a non-event. but check this out... and listen, please! 
>
>the fact is that egroups has a very strict policy about spam - and this was certainly an unsolicited email. the fact is, if any of you complained to egroups about what this woman had done, then we could very well get shut down - just like that! furthermore, i could become legally responsible to pay damages to egroups out of my own pocket! that could mean all number of things, including forcing me out of the writing / readings / website publishing business entirely so i can get a regular job with regular wages so they can then be garnished! so yes, it is serious. i'm not being paranoid! the negative forces really do want to destroy the positive sources of light on this planet. read the statement below to see what i mean. if we want joy, we have to protect ourselves anduse compassionate wisdom.(the policy statement about this from egroups is at the end of this email - read it and see that it becomes our problem, not just a problem that she had by feeling that i treated her like a child.)
>
>apart from the damage that could be wrought to our group, if an active participant on this list decides to try to move merchandise, even if the initial merchandise is free, then this represents an abuse of this site and all participants on this list for "target marketing" to a knowingly metaphysical audience. none of the rest of us have done anything like this - we're here to engage in mind-expanding dialogue. add in the fact that this could certainly be a cult or religious organization, and something's rotten in the state of ascension2000. 
>
>although i own this list, i was never asked permission if this offerwas proper or okay topost - and no information whatsoever was given about it except for an 800 number, which indicates a commercial line that costs money to keep active. now our intrepid crusader steve foeller has braved the rapids and returned with a warning - they want your number, baby! please do yourselves a favor and let this rotten fruit drop from the vine from lack of attention! p.u., as they say! ;^(
>
>i am under constant bombardment from spam opportunists who harvest my email address and send me all sorts of commercial offers, due to its being publicly posted. as you can see on the main page where i list my email address, i am now taking a very aggressive stance against spam.i automatically ask to be removed from every letter, with no exceptions, and if (in many, many cases) the remove address is a fake or overloaded email address, i notify their server - which can be found in the email header. 
>
>we all need to be more proactive about this so that we can put an end to spam.believe it or not, i have made a significant dent in the spamvolume since i started doing this.if there is one thing that we have learned from this election debate so far, it's that our votes really do matter! bush is now only ahead in florida by a scant 225 votes - which certainly puts things in perspective. (yes, if you're interested i voted nader - i hadn't voted before except once for clinton when he was running against elder bush while i was in college.) 
>
>i certainly do not want my "spam disease" to transfer over to all of you. if this person wanted to post an excerpt from the book, in the context of discussion, and others expressed an interest in learning more about it, then the comment and phone number would be warranted. but to simply subscribe and drop a one-liner about this great new "handbook..." will not be tolerated, when i / we could get wiped out for such carelessness after so many of us have expressed our desire to have this forum through this server in particular. if you love me and love each other, don't get us in trouble! 
>
>i will very shortly be putting an additional sentence on the webpage right beneath the sign-up link so that others do not impale themselves upon the sword of truth in the future! if we were stuck in the fourth-density unconditional love trip, without incorporating the compassionate wisdom of 6d, (which oftentimes is very similar to the "tough love" thata parent must give,) then these types of things would overwhelm us and we would no longer be able to exist. as it is we are getting one or two new members a day and the list could quickly become quite a titan - so we need to set precedents now. if it gets really crazy then i might make it moderated and necessary for people to register at the beginning. 
>
>for those of you who are interested, here is what egroups has to say about unsolicited commercial email, which is linked at http://www.egroups.com/info/nospam.html.
>
>
<table width="90%" align="center">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>no spam! <blockquote>

it is against the egroups terms of service (http://www.egroups.com/info/tos.html) to use our service to send "spam," which is unsolicited email. if you send spam, we will delete your group and deactivate your account. we may also pursue legal damages. our terms of service also prohibit the following, which are often associated with spam:</blockquote>
<ul>
chain letters pyramid schemes "get rich quick" or "make money fast" (mmf) schemes advertise-anything groups using or promoting software designed to harvest e-mail addresses [/list]
<blockquote>

*note: these are merely examples. egroups customer support retains the right to delete, at our discretion, groups who send spam or violate our terms of service. in addition, all egroups members must abide by our member guidelines (http://www.egroups.com/info/guidelines.html).</blockquote>

what egroups does to prevent spam
<blockquote>

egroups is committed to protecting its members from spam. although no email-based service is completely protected from spam, we take the following measures to protect you:</blockquote>
<ul>
group members' email addresses are obscured anywhere they appear on the egroups web site. they are available only to the moderator of a particular group. egroups will remove/ban users who propagate spam. anyone added or invited to a group is sent a notification message which includes email addresses to report spam abuse. moderators can require their approval of all messages before they're sent, as well as approval of all new subscribers to prevent known spammers from joining their groups. egroups moves swiftly when it receives a spam report. egroups will ban a member causing repeat or severe spamming problems and delete any group associated with these activities.
[/list]

how to report spam if you receive it
<blockquote>

if you are the victim of spam on egroups, or one claiming to be sent from egroups, please forward the offending message (as an attachment) to egroups-guidelines@yahoo-inc.com and we will take appropriate actions. note: it is very important to forward the email you received or we will have no way of tracking down the offender. </blockquote>

questions?
<blockquote>

if you have any further questions regarding our spam policy, please contact customer support (http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/egroups/cgi_feedback). we'll be happy to assist you.</blockquote></td></tr></tbody>

<tt>to unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
asc2k-unsubscribe@egroups.com

</tt>
</blockquote>

David Wilcock

11-10-2000, 08:34 AM

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>i picked nader because i wanted to help him try to reach the five-percent necessary to become a political party, and in my state he didn't have a chance for the electoral vote so it was okay. and no, as austin powers might say, politics is not my bag, baby!
>
>- david
<blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-right: 0px">
style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: jeremy weiland (jweiland@nettalon.com)
style="font: 10pt arial">to: asc2k@egroups.com
style="font: 10pt arial">sent: friday, november 10, 2000 11:12 am
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: re: [asc2k] no spam: commercial offers and future direction
>

> david, i'm glad to have seen you posting so much, hope eveything's going smoothly, and thanks for staying in personal contact with us.
>
> agree with everything you said about spamming. absolutely.
>
> however, you're not implying that nader is the spirtually correct choice are you? the wanderers2000 group is fighting this one out, and i just wanted to make sure that we don't get into a political discussion on this list. it doesn't mean anything...
> 
> peace,
> jeremy
>
> p.s. i know that's not what you meant, david, but don't you think it's a little dangerous to bring politics into this list? you don't want to alienate people, i know... just a concern i have.
<blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-right: 0px">
style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: david wilcock (djw333@exis.net)
style="font: 10pt arial">to: asc2k@egroups.com
style="font: 10pt arial">sent: thursday, november 09, 2000 8:16 pm
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: [asc2k] no spam: commercial offers and future direction
>

>hello to you all!
>
>i have been electronically notified that our friend debbie has unsubscribed. was she a funny mentalist? we'll never know, unless someone isgullible enough to give their information to the machine that she somehow was affiliated with. now some of you may feel that my statement to her was not warranted, or that i am "taking this too seriously."since it is relatively quiet out there i imagine that for most of us it was a non-event. but check this out... and listen, please! 
>
>the fact is that egroups has a very strict policy about spam - and this was certainly an unsolicited email. the fact is, if any of you complained to egroups about what this woman had done, then we could very well get shut down - just like that! furthermore, i could become legally responsible to pay damages to egroups out of my own pocket! that could mean all number of things, including forcing me out of the writing / readings / website publishing business entirely so i can get a regular job with regular wages so they can then be garnished! so yes, it is serious. i'm not being paranoid! the negative forces really do want to destroy the positive sources of light on this planet. read the statement below to see what i mean. if we want joy, we have to protect ourselves anduse compassionate wisdom.(the policy statement about this from egroups is at the end of this email - read it and see that it becomes our problem, not just a problem that she had by feeling that i treated her like a child.)
>
>apart from the damage that could be wrought to our group, if an active participant on this list decides to try to move merchandise, even if the initial merchandise is free, then this represents an abuse of this site and all participants on this list for "target marketing" to a knowingly metaphysical audience. none of the rest of us have done anything like this - we're here to engage in mind-expanding dialogue. add in the fact that this could certainly be a cult or religious organization, and something's rotten in the state of ascension2000. 
>
>although i own this list, i was never asked permission if this offerwas proper or okay topost - and no information whatsoever was given about it except for an 800 number, which indicates a commercial line that costs money to keep active. now our intrepid crusader steve foeller has braved the rapids and returned with a warning - they want your number, baby! please do yourselves a favor and let this rotten fruit drop from the vine from lack of attention! p.u., as they say! ;^(
>
>i am under constant bombardment from spam opportunists who harvest my email address and send me all sorts of commercial offers, due to its being publicly posted. as you can see on the main page where i list my email address, i am now taking a very aggressive stance against spam.i automatically ask to be removed from every letter, with no exceptions, and if (in many, many cases) the remove address is a fake or overloaded email address, i notify their server - which can be found in the email header. 
>
>we all need to be more proactive about this so that we can put an end to spam.believe it or not, i have made a significant dent in the spamvolume since i started doing this.if there is one thing that we have learned from this election debate so far, it's that our votes really do matter! bush is now only ahead in florida by a scant 225 votes - which certainly puts things in perspective. (yes, if you're interested i voted nader - i hadn't voted before except once for clinton when he was running against elder bush while i was in college.) 
>
>i certainly do not want my "spam disease" to transfer over to all of you. if this person wanted to post an excerpt from the book, in the context of discussion, and others expressed an interest in learning more about it, then the comment and phone number would be warranted. but to simply subscribe and drop a one-liner about this great new "handbook..." will not be tolerated, when i / we could get wiped out for such carelessness after so many of us have expressed our desire to have this forum through this server in particular. if you love me and love each other, don't get us in trouble! 
>
>i will very shortly be putting an additional sentence on the webpage right beneath the sign-up link so that others do not impale themselves upon the sword of truth in the future! if we were stuck in the fourth-density unconditional love trip, without incorporating the compassionate wisdom of 6d, (which oftentimes is very similar to the "tough love" thata parent must give,) then these types of things would overwhelm us and we would no longer be able to exist. as it is we are getting one or two new members a day and the list could quickly become quite a titan - so we need to set precedents now. if it gets really crazy then i might make it moderated and necessary for people to register at the beginning. 
>
>for those of you who are interested, here is what egroups has to say about unsolicited commercial email, which is linked at http://www.egroups.com/info/nospam.html.
>
>
<table width="90%" align="center">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>no spam! <blockquote>

it is against the egroups terms of service (http://www.egroups.com/info/tos.html) to use our service to send "spam," which is unsolicited email. if you send spam, we will delete your group and deactivate your account. we may also pursue legal damages. our terms of service also prohibit the following, which are often associated with spam:</blockquote>
<ul>
chain letters pyramid schemes "get rich quick" or "make money fast" (mmf) schemes advertise-anything groups using or promoting software designed to harvest e-mail addresses [/list]
<blockquote>

*note: these are merely examples. egroups customer support retains the right to delete, at our discretion, groups who send spam or violate our terms of service. in addition, all egroups members must abide by our member guidelines (http://www.egroups.com/info/guidelines.html).</blockquote>

what egroups does to prevent spam
<blockquote>

egroups is committed to protecting its members from spam. although no email-based service is completely protected from spam, we take the following measures to protect you:</blockquote>
<ul>
group members' email addresses are obscured anywhere they appear on the egroups web site. they are available only to the moderator of a particular group. egroups will remove/ban users who propagate spam. anyone added or invited to a group is sent a notification message which includes email addresses to report spam abuse. moderators can require their approval of all messages before they're sent, as well as approval of all new subscribers to prevent known spammers from joining their groups. egroups moves swiftly when it receives a spam report. egroups will ban a member causing repeat or severe spamming problems and delete any group associated with these activities.
[/list]

how to report spam if you receive it
<blockquote>

if you are the victim of spam on egroups, or one claiming to be sent from egroups, please forward the offending message (as an attachment) to egroups-guidelines@yahoo-inc.com and we will take appropriate actions. note: it is very important to forward the email you received or we will have no way of tracking down the offender. </blockquote>

questions?
<blockquote>

if you have any further questions regarding our spam policy, please contact customer support (http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/egroups/cgi_feedback). we'll be happy to assist you.</blockquote></td></tr></tbody>

<tt>to unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
asc2k-unsubscribe@egroups.com

</tt>
</blockquote>

<tt>to unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
asc2k-unsubscribe@egroups.com

</tt>
</blockquote>

Jeremy Weiland

11-10-2000, 08:52 AM

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> good, i don't know if any of you are on the wanderers2000 list but it's sickening how much political discussion is going on there... like 25 messages debating politics and one with any deeper significance... also they're started to judge whether people are sts/sto based on who they voted for! am i nuts or is this really wrong??? i just never want to see that happen here.
> alright, no matter which dictator you voted for, take care!
> love and/or light,
> jeremy
<blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-right: 0px">
style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: david wilcock (djw333@exis.net)
style="font: 10pt arial">to: asc2k@egroups.com
style="font: 10pt arial">sent: friday, november 10, 2000 11:34 am
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: re: [asc2k] no spam: commercial offers and future direction
>

>i picked nader because i wanted to help him try to reach the five-percent necessary to become a political party, and in my state he didn't have a chance for the electoral vote so it was okay. and no, as austin powers might say, politics is not my bag, baby!
>
>- david
<blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-right: 0px">
style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: jeremy weiland (jweiland@nettalon.com)
style="font: 10pt arial">to: asc2k@egroups.com
style="font: 10pt arial">sent: friday, november 10, 2000 11:12 am
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: re: [asc2k] no spam: commercial offers and future direction
>

> david, i'm glad to have seen you posting so much, hope eveything's going smoothly, and thanks for staying in personal contact with us.
>
> agree with everything you said about spamming. absolutely.
>
> however, you're not implying that nader is the spirtually correct choice are you? the wanderers2000 group is fighting this one out, and i just wanted to make sure that we don't get into a political discussion on this list. it doesn't mean anything...
> 
> peace,
> jeremy
>
> p.s. i know that's not what you meant, david, but don't you think it's a little dangerous to bring politics into this list? you don't want to alienate people, i know... just a concern i have.
<blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: #000000 2px solid; margin-right: 0px">
style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: david wilcock (djw333@exis.net)
style="font: 10pt arial">to: asc2k@egroups.com
style="font: 10pt arial">sent: thursday, november 09, 2000 8:16 pm
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: [asc2k] no spam: commercial offers and future direction
>

>hello to you all!
>
>i have been electronically notified that our friend debbie has unsubscribed. was she a funny mentalist? we'll never know, unless someone isgullible enough to give their information to the machine that she somehow was affiliated with. now some of you may feel that my statement to her was not warranted, or that i am "taking this too seriously."since it is relatively quiet out there i imagine that for most of us it was a non-event. but check this out... and listen, please! 
>
>the fact is that egroups has a very strict policy about spam - and this was certainly an unsolicited email. the fact is, if any of you complained to egroups about what this woman had done, then we could very well get shut down - just like that! furthermore, i could become legally responsible to pay damages to egroups out of my own pocket! that could mean all number of things, including forcing me out of the writing / readings / website publishing business entirely so i can get a regular job with regular wages so they can then be garnished! so yes, it is serious. i'm not being paranoid! the negative forces really do want to destroy the positive sources of light on this planet. read the statement below to see what i mean. if we want joy, we have to protect ourselves anduse compassionate wisdom.(the policy statement about this from egroups is at the end of this email - read it and see that it becomes our problem, not just a problem that she had by feeling that i treated her like a child.)
>
>apart from the damage that could be wrought to our group, if an active participant on this list decides to try to move merchandise, even if the initial merchandise is free, then this represents an abuse of this site and all participants on this list for "target marketing" to a knowingly metaphysical audience. none of the rest of us have done anything like this - we're here to engage in mind-expanding dialogue. add in the fact that this could certainly be a cult or religious organization, and something's rotten in the state of ascension2000. 
>
>although i own this list, i was never asked permission if this offerwas proper or okay topost - and no information whatsoever was given about it except for an 800 number, which indicates a commercial line that costs money to keep active. now our intrepid crusader steve foeller has braved the rapids and returned with a warning - they want your number, baby! please do yourselves a favor and let this rotten fruit drop from the vine from lack of attention! p.u., as they say! ;^(
>
>i am under constant bombardment from spam opportunists who harvest my email address and send me all sorts of commercial offers, due to its being publicly posted. as you can see on the main page where i list my email address, i am now taking a very aggressive stance against spam.i automatically ask to be removed from every letter, with no exceptions, and if (in many, many cases) the remove address is a fake or overloaded email address, i notify their server - which can be found in the email header. 
>
>we all need to be more proactive about this so that we can put an end to spam.believe it or not, i have made a significant dent in the spamvolume since i started doing this.if there is one thing that we have learned from this election debate so far, it's that our votes really do matter! bush is now only ahead in florida by a scant 225 votes - which certainly puts things in perspective. (yes, if you're interested i voted nader - i hadn't voted before except once for clinton when he was running against elder bush while i was in college.) 
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>i certainly do not want my "spam disease" to transfer over to all of you. if this person wanted to post an excerpt from the book, in the context of discussion, and others expressed an interest in learning more about it, then the comment and phone number would be warranted. but to simply subscribe and drop a one-liner about this great new "handbook..." will not be tolerated, when i / we could get wiped out for such carelessness after so many of us have expressed our desire to have this forum through this server in particular. if you love me and love each other, don't get us in trouble! 
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>i will very shortly be putting an additional sentence on the webpage right beneath the sign-up link so that others do not impale themselves upon the sword of truth in the future! if we were stuck in the fourth-density unconditional love trip, without incorporating the compassionate wisdom of 6d, (which oftentimes is very similar to the "tough love" thata parent must give,) then these types of things would overwhelm us and we would no longer be able to exist. as it is we are getting one or two new members a day and the list could quickly become quite a titan - so we need to set precedents now. if it gets really crazy then i might make it moderated and necessary for people to register at the beginning. 
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>for those of you who are interested, here is what egroups has to say about unsolicited commercial email, which is linked at http://www.egroups.com/info/nospam.html.
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<td>no spam! <blockquote>

it is against the egroups terms of service (http://www.egroups.com/info/tos.html) to use our service to send "spam," which is unsolicited email. if you send spam, we will delete your group and deactivate your account. we may also pursue legal damages. our terms of service also prohibit the following, which are often associated with spam:</blockquote>
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chain letters pyramid schemes "get rich quick" or "make money fast" (mmf) schemes advertise-anything groups using or promoting software designed to harvest e-mail addresses [/list]
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*note: these are merely examples. egroups customer support retains the right to delete, at our discretion, groups who send spam or violate our terms of service. in addition, all egroups members must abide by our member guidelines (http://www.egroups.com/info/guidelines.html).</blockquote>

what egroups does to prevent spam
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egroups is committed to protecting its members from spam. although no email-based service is completely protected from spam, we take the following measures to protect you:</blockquote>
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group members' email addresses are obscured anywhere they appear on the egroups web site. they are available only to the moderator of a particular group. egroups will remove/ban users who propagate spam. anyone added or invited to a group is sent a notification message which includes email addresses to report spam abuse. moderators can require their approval of all messages before they're sent, as well as approval of all new subscribers to prevent known spammers from joining their groups. egroups moves swiftly when it receives a spam report. egroups will ban a member causing repeat or severe spamming problems and delete any group associated with these activities.
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how to report spam if you receive it
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if you are the victim of spam on egroups, or one claiming to be sent from egroups, please forward the offending message (as an attachment) to egroups-guidelines@yahoo-inc.com and we will take appropriate actions. note: it is very important to forward the email you received or we will have no way of tracking down the offender. </blockquote>

questions?
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if you have any further questions regarding our spam policy, please contact customer support (http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/egroups/cgi_feedback). we'll be happy to assist you.</blockquote></td></tr></tbody>

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