David Bowie
05-05-2001, 08:14 PM
does anyone know anything about astral projection?
-nathan
>from: "david wilcock" <djw333@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=oatphdjos3ligth86exn5xm6obhj0zbocnjglc hgrcz-kxbwgalrlb08t3lcqnlqeg_cbowlnmta_g)>
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>subject: re: [asc2k] thanks david and new group
>date: sat, 5 may 2001 21:06:48 -0400
>
>when i was a freshman in college, a guy i called "crazy larry" (which is a
>pejorative term i know, i'm just being honest with you) was really into
>nietzsche and made my life a living hell... i think he gravitated to me
>because we were both deep thinkers. he was convinced that he was becoming
>an "overman" and used to talk too often about how the german navy would
>wear black underwear that they didn't change for an entire month and called
>it "the whore's underpants" because of the smell... yes, disgusting.
>
>he was a walking dictionary of information about military and wars, yet he
>had long hair, constantly had a cigarette and coffee and had hippie
>ideologies in other ways with his own armada of tie-dyes hidden under the
>black navy peacoat that he wore in warm weather. he used to smoke
>cigarettes in my room, stay up all night wandering the halls and thinking
>deep thoughts (because he had transcended sleep) and was constantly trying
>to analytically figure out how to fuse the "military" and "hippie" parts of
>himself together. we had long conversations about this... and i told him
>that the key was self-acceptance.
>
>i tried to help him regain mental health by encouraging him to sleep and
>stay in dark rooms at night even if he wasn't tired. he ended up being
>placed in a facility in california after the end of that year, also after
>smashing all his belongings in his room. it turns out that this place was a
>christian establishment, and with the help of psychotropic medications and
>a huge amount of guilt, he went fundamentalist and was released. then he
>came back, called me up to visit and tried to convince me that i was going
>to hell in my sophomore year! the song "you're so right" was written in his
>honor... i don't remember whether that's one of the ones in the music
>section online or not. i think it is there, actually.
>
>he told the people at the facility that he 'couldn't stop screaming' and
>they gave him navane, which essentially turned him into a flat-liner...
>:) i did recommend that he demand a lighter medication after i researched
>it and saw what it did... essentially a "chemical straight jacket for the
>mind." he told me that he didn't even want to get out of bed long enough to
>go to the store, he just sat and smoked all day in bed. i think getting off
>that navane did help him... the second time he came to "visit" me ended in
>disaster, at the beginning of my junior year... he overstayed his welcome
>and i had to stand up to him and tell him that i was sorry but i wasn't
>going to let him stay in my room past the time i had agreed to. applying
>wisdom in these situations is never easy.... :)
>
>so let's say i was 'front loaded.' actually other than larry i don't know
>much of nietzsche... i just didn't want to make recommendations after
>seeing what happened to larry when he was reading it all the time. but
>then, this is not a direct assessment... so if you know anything more i'd
>be glad to hear it.
>
>peace be with you -
>
>- david
> ----- original message -----
> from: jeremy weiland
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> sent: saturday, may 05, 2001 7:59 pm
> subject: re: [asc2k] thanks david and new group
>
>
> just out of curiosity, david, what do you have against nietzsche? i
>thought he had a few spiritually inclined ideas and he is misunderstood
>since the nazis changed co-opted and perverted his ideas.
> anyone else wanna help me out on this?
> later,
> jeremy
> -----original message-----
> from: david wilcock <djw333@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=oatphdjos3ligth86exn5xm6obhj0zbocnjglc hgrcz-kxbwgalrlb08t3lcqnlqeg_cbowlnmta_g)>
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> date: saturday, may 05, 2001 6:23 pm
> subject: re: [asc2k] thanks david and new group
>
>
> wow! coming from you korga that's a great compliment. i had started to
>feel that "vacuum" that has happened in the past when i release a major
>effort and there's a deafening silence... so thank you for the comments. i
>get lots of email and that's grand, i try to answer it as best i can, but
>when someone comments on new releases it means a lot more... i know people
>are seeing it but still... :)
>
> compared to shift of the ages, this is a friggin' brick house. and
>yes, in "vedic yoga, seth and multidimensional cosmology" there's a whole
>section on "create your own reality."
>
> now i've got to get up the energy to pump out the remainder of it...
>and that's the part that will really sock it to 'em in one thundering
>moment at the end, as the whole kit and kaboodle comes together. most of
>this end section is written (probably 3/5 or more of it, just in scattered
>fragments of writing) and the unwritten parts are relatively known in terms
>of where we're going. i'm still woefully overtired in my recovery from the
>all-day and all-nighter that i pulled monday... i was so "juiced" after
>having the focused spiritual energy of five million people pouring into my
>mortal coil that i literally felt like the "ubermensch" of nietzsche and
>felt no need for sleep... (btw i do not recommend nietzsche, that's a
>joke... :)
>
> now i'm paying. hard. so if anyone else would like to 'pay a tithe'
>for my efforts by your feedback and comments i'd be delighted. right now
>i'm still watching dvds to calm back down and reset my brain.
>
> i can assure you that this book is solid gold and eventually will be
>seen as a classic work of science and spirit... undoubtedly it could have
>as much of an effect on society as the cayce readings once did.
>
> peace be with you -
>
> - david
> ----- original message -----
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> sent: saturday, may 05, 2001 12:37 pm
> subject: [asc2k] thanks david and new group
>
>
> i've begun printing out ciii and four chapters into it i am
>absolutely amazed. you've done amazing work here
> david. unfortunately the ink on my printer ran out so i couldn't
>print out everything yet but of what i've read so
> far it is absolutely beautiful. i don't have any yet but i hope you
>and everyone here are open for questions and
> discussion as we get through the material.
>
> incidently there is also a new group forming for those interested:
>
> there is a new group forming at
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/visualearth/
>
> visualize a new earth
>
>
> the point of this group is to bring
>those souls together who recognizing these as
> times of change. the basic belief
>is that what we are experiencing the
> manifestation of the global
>consciousness as it goes through its final growing
> pains. as with any adolescence
>what is needed at this time is guidance and
> clarification of the goals. it is
>consciousness and only consciousness which will
> determine what the future will be.
>this group aims to work toward a vision of our
> future world so as to positively
>move consciousness toward a universal destiny.
>
> what we are trying to do here is
>identify a conscious solution not a technological
> solution. what is at work here are
>spiritual influences and these simply cannot
> be altered by physical means. we
>must solve our spiritual problems with spiritual
> answers. we cannot escape into
>spirituality however, as the physical will not just
> disappear. whatever we create on
>the spiritual plane will manifest into a physical
> reality. but in order for it to
>combat against the spiritual process now in the
> making it must be a strong
>concentrated effort of consciousness.. this space is
> created that we may share our
>insights in this matter so that our efforts are
> unified toward that conscious
>solution. these are indeed changing times and
> each and every person must choose
>which part they will play.
>
>
>
>
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>from: "david wilcock" <djw333@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=oatphdjos3ligth86exn5xm6obhj0zbocnjglc hgrcz-kxbwgalrlb08t3lcqnlqeg_cbowlnmta_g)>
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>subject: re: [asc2k] thanks david and new group
>date: sat, 5 may 2001 21:06:48 -0400
>
>when i was a freshman in college, a guy i called "crazy larry" (which is a
>pejorative term i know, i'm just being honest with you) was really into
>nietzsche and made my life a living hell... i think he gravitated to me
>because we were both deep thinkers. he was convinced that he was becoming
>an "overman" and used to talk too often about how the german navy would
>wear black underwear that they didn't change for an entire month and called
>it "the whore's underpants" because of the smell... yes, disgusting.
>
>he was a walking dictionary of information about military and wars, yet he
>had long hair, constantly had a cigarette and coffee and had hippie
>ideologies in other ways with his own armada of tie-dyes hidden under the
>black navy peacoat that he wore in warm weather. he used to smoke
>cigarettes in my room, stay up all night wandering the halls and thinking
>deep thoughts (because he had transcended sleep) and was constantly trying
>to analytically figure out how to fuse the "military" and "hippie" parts of
>himself together. we had long conversations about this... and i told him
>that the key was self-acceptance.
>
>i tried to help him regain mental health by encouraging him to sleep and
>stay in dark rooms at night even if he wasn't tired. he ended up being
>placed in a facility in california after the end of that year, also after
>smashing all his belongings in his room. it turns out that this place was a
>christian establishment, and with the help of psychotropic medications and
>a huge amount of guilt, he went fundamentalist and was released. then he
>came back, called me up to visit and tried to convince me that i was going
>to hell in my sophomore year! the song "you're so right" was written in his
>honor... i don't remember whether that's one of the ones in the music
>section online or not. i think it is there, actually.
>
>he told the people at the facility that he 'couldn't stop screaming' and
>they gave him navane, which essentially turned him into a flat-liner...
>:) i did recommend that he demand a lighter medication after i researched
>it and saw what it did... essentially a "chemical straight jacket for the
>mind." he told me that he didn't even want to get out of bed long enough to
>go to the store, he just sat and smoked all day in bed. i think getting off
>that navane did help him... the second time he came to "visit" me ended in
>disaster, at the beginning of my junior year... he overstayed his welcome
>and i had to stand up to him and tell him that i was sorry but i wasn't
>going to let him stay in my room past the time i had agreed to. applying
>wisdom in these situations is never easy.... :)
>
>so let's say i was 'front loaded.' actually other than larry i don't know
>much of nietzsche... i just didn't want to make recommendations after
>seeing what happened to larry when he was reading it all the time. but
>then, this is not a direct assessment... so if you know anything more i'd
>be glad to hear it.
>
>peace be with you -
>
>- david
> ----- original message -----
> from: jeremy weiland
> to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com (/group/asc2k/post?postid=dh7rzyp4n4ie6akzxi9wq6bbgiwzd19phivzmf koea_9rpito3-e4s1so780x4tg-rw_j3k2958zlvy)
> sent: saturday, may 05, 2001 7:59 pm
> subject: re: [asc2k] thanks david and new group
>
>
> just out of curiosity, david, what do you have against nietzsche? i
>thought he had a few spiritually inclined ideas and he is misunderstood
>since the nazis changed co-opted and perverted his ideas.
> anyone else wanna help me out on this?
> later,
> jeremy
> -----original message-----
> from: david wilcock <djw333@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=oatphdjos3ligth86exn5xm6obhj0zbocnjglc hgrcz-kxbwgalrlb08t3lcqnlqeg_cbowlnmta_g)>
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> date: saturday, may 05, 2001 6:23 pm
> subject: re: [asc2k] thanks david and new group
>
>
> wow! coming from you korga that's a great compliment. i had started to
>feel that "vacuum" that has happened in the past when i release a major
>effort and there's a deafening silence... so thank you for the comments. i
>get lots of email and that's grand, i try to answer it as best i can, but
>when someone comments on new releases it means a lot more... i know people
>are seeing it but still... :)
>
> compared to shift of the ages, this is a friggin' brick house. and
>yes, in "vedic yoga, seth and multidimensional cosmology" there's a whole
>section on "create your own reality."
>
> now i've got to get up the energy to pump out the remainder of it...
>and that's the part that will really sock it to 'em in one thundering
>moment at the end, as the whole kit and kaboodle comes together. most of
>this end section is written (probably 3/5 or more of it, just in scattered
>fragments of writing) and the unwritten parts are relatively known in terms
>of where we're going. i'm still woefully overtired in my recovery from the
>all-day and all-nighter that i pulled monday... i was so "juiced" after
>having the focused spiritual energy of five million people pouring into my
>mortal coil that i literally felt like the "ubermensch" of nietzsche and
>felt no need for sleep... (btw i do not recommend nietzsche, that's a
>joke... :)
>
> now i'm paying. hard. so if anyone else would like to 'pay a tithe'
>for my efforts by your feedback and comments i'd be delighted. right now
>i'm still watching dvds to calm back down and reset my brain.
>
> i can assure you that this book is solid gold and eventually will be
>seen as a classic work of science and spirit... undoubtedly it could have
>as much of an effect on society as the cayce readings once did.
>
> peace be with you -
>
> - david
> ----- original message -----
> from: korga@... (/group/asc2k/post?postid=xib3eiylp1coefauhdas1uvabkmgokyj2j343w lvuyw-qryz4xsq888ehk6s4_kpjgxuqk6udzm)
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> sent: saturday, may 05, 2001 12:37 pm
> subject: [asc2k] thanks david and new group
>
>
> i've begun printing out ciii and four chapters into it i am
>absolutely amazed. you've done amazing work here
> david. unfortunately the ink on my printer ran out so i couldn't
>print out everything yet but of what i've read so
> far it is absolutely beautiful. i don't have any yet but i hope you
>and everyone here are open for questions and
> discussion as we get through the material.
>
> incidently there is also a new group forming for those interested:
>
> there is a new group forming at
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/visualearth/
>
> visualize a new earth
>
>
> the point of this group is to bring
>those souls together who recognizing these as
> times of change. the basic belief
>is that what we are experiencing the
> manifestation of the global
>consciousness as it goes through its final growing
> pains. as with any adolescence
>what is needed at this time is guidance and
> clarification of the goals. it is
>consciousness and only consciousness which will
> determine what the future will be.
>this group aims to work toward a vision of our
> future world so as to positively
>move consciousness toward a universal destiny.
>
> what we are trying to do here is
>identify a conscious solution not a technological
> solution. what is at work here are
>spiritual influences and these simply cannot
> be altered by physical means. we
>must solve our spiritual problems with spiritual
> answers. we cannot escape into
>spirituality however, as the physical will not just
> disappear. whatever we create on
>the spiritual plane will manifest into a physical
> reality. but in order for it to
>combat against the spiritual process now in the
> making it must be a strong
>concentrated effort of consciousness.. this space is
> created that we may share our
>insights in this matter so that our efforts are
> unified toward that conscious
>solution. these are indeed changing times and
> each and every person must choose
>which part they will play.
>
>
>
>
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