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Tiffani Boswell
08-01-2002, 02:18 PM
a. meditate in a state of love for the negative ones

ra: to meditate in love for these senders of images and light is the most
available means of nullifying the effects of such occurrences. to downgrade
these experiences by the use of the intellect or will is to invite the
prolonging of the effects. far better to share such experiences and join
hearts and souls in love and light with compassion for the sender and with
armor for the self. (b5, 75)


ok...i'd like to get others opinions on what this means...the "armor for the
self" part in particular...is this just the essence of meditating and sending
love and light creates this "armor" or is it something that is consciously to be
thought out...

thanks
tiffani


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Chris Hamilton
08-01-2002, 02:44 PM
a. meditate in a state of love for the negative ones

ra: far better to share such experiences and join hearts and souls in love and
light with compassion for the sender and with
armor for the self. (b5, 75)


ok...i'd like to get others opinions on what this means...the "armor for the
self" part in particular...is this just the essence of meditating and sending
love and light creates this "armor" or is it something that is consciously to be
thought out...

thanks
tiffani
you are right on the money tif. the love and compassion of course creates a
vibration around our spirit that the negative entity can't penetrate, because
they have never learned green ray (heart) vibration (and that's what they don't
want to learn either). chris



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Jeremy Weiland
08-01-2002, 03:31 PM
> the love and compassion of course creates a
> vibration around our spirit that the negative entity

> can't penetrate, because they have never learned
> green ray (heart) vibration (and that's what they
> don't want to learn either). chris

one point i'd like to make is that thinking of it as
"armor" or "protection" would probably make this form
of meditation less effective, since the whole point of
green ray vibration is acceptance. if you are
concentrating on loving and accepting your "greeter",
thinking of it as protection from an attack only
weakens your love and acceptance. it must be seen for
what it is: an experience without polarity. it is
your choice that turns a greeting into attack, and
vice versa.

l/l

jeremy

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Chris Hamilton
08-01-2002, 05:12 PM
> the love and compassion of course creates a
> vibration around our spirit that the negative entity
> can't penetrate, because they have never learned
> green ray (heart) vibration (and that's what they
> don't want to learn either). chris
jer
one point i'd like to make is that thinking of it as
"armor" or "protection" would probably make this form
of meditation less effective, since the whole point of
green ray vibration is acceptance.

chris
hmm. i think i did one of my "blonde" things here and skipped a few sentences
in between. i'm sorry if i did that. i looked at the sentence and determined
that love and compassioon are not a meditative procedure necessarily. it is also
not a conscious act in most cases. so, i skipped to the decision that love and
comapssion "is" in most people-it's just there. love and compassion, being a
normal state for an individual, would create the protective vibration naturally.

jer
if you are concentrating on loving and accepting your "greeter",
thinking of it as protection from an attack only weakens your love and
acceptance.

chris
ok, coming from my previous statement, the individual wouldn't be trying to
protect itself at all when being greeted. the natural vibrations the positive
entity projects would just simply protect it. the negative entity in this
respect would be weakened by the simple projection of love without any
attachments.

jer
it must be seen for that it is: an experience without polarity. it is your
choice that turns a greeting into attack, and
vice versa.

chris
yes, agree :) that's why just having the love inside from the creator is so
important.

jer
again, the individual who "is" the love and compassion doesn't need to
concentrate in order to accept

chris
yes, infact, that concentration could create the polarity-ok now all we have
to do is apply this practically in everyday life, right? just a thought. :)

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Mawk
08-02-2002, 07:12 AM
hi tiffini,

you have asked, "i'd like to get others opinions on what this means...the
"armor for the self" part in particular...is this just the essence of
meditating and sending love and light creates this "armor" or is it
something that is consciously to be thought out...".

i would like to share with you my understanding on the question you raised
above. before i do that though i want to make it clear that i have no
religious or cult affiliations. i consider myself a spiritual person and the
techniques i use are mainly derived from intuition or web sites that provide
information for free. i have used remote viewing to fine tune my ability to
determine the difference between signal and noise. for greater details on
this see ingo swann's site. as for my meditation technique i just lie on my
bed or couch and concentrate on my breathing and use my consciousness to
stimulate my chakra's. this technique i got from the techniques section of
robert bruce's web site. my practice is austere in that i don't burn candles
or incense though occasionally i will play music, more so in the summer when
the blow flies can be really distracting. on occasions i will also do group
meditations but usually the other participants may be on the other side of
the world. i almost always start my meditations with the stated goal that i
would like to become a greater ambassador of the light and an emissary of
love and compassion. i further invite the assistance of all dimensional,
celestial, incarnate and disincarnate beings who would like to assist me in
this goal.

so back to your question. my understanding of armor for the self came from a
meditation. i have posted the notes from this meditation before so what i
will do is post what i learnt and explain why it was important for me.
finally at the end i will repost my meditation notes for those who didn't
see it the first time. in advance i want to say that the things given to me
are available to anyone who has the right intent. further i don't consider
myself an expert i am just sharing my experience and welcome any further
insights.

so in my case "armor for the self" came in a symbolic form of medieval armor
and a sword. "armor for the self" is obviously all about protection. what
was interesting from the information derived from the meditation is that
there were definitely different levels and scenarios for using your armor
and sword. the first level is to have confidence in your strength. you will
be surprised how really strong you are once you over come fear. i was
concerned once given my sword that i might accidentally use it against an
innocent victim. in a subsequent meditation i was informed that my sword was
excalibur and it only worked against evil. the problem with this approach is
that your adversary is not really destroyed but in fact grows stronger
through the knowledge of your strength. the negative energy pattern can
manifest in another form wiser for the experience.

the second level made all weapons in most cases redundant. in this case all
that was required was to show the sword. more importantly though you now
have no fear and stand your ground. the impact on negative entities is to
instill fear in them and they then loose all their power over you and in my
experience they retreat hastily. this has occurred in several of my obe type
dreams. i also seem to have the ability to retreat from any situation that i
don't want to be involved in. i might add that in several of my dreams i
have been tested on whether i would loose my temper. i have not and as a
result have been allowed to follow a path of healing rather than a warrior.

the final and most powerful level is love. being able to radiate love has
the effect of swamping not only your fear but that of you adversary. it has
been my fortune to have had two obe dreams were i have encouraged two dark
entities into the light for the first time in their memory. rather than
feeling a sense of victory over these entities i have been overwhelmed with
empathy for their fear in this new predicament for them. for some the trauma
has been overwhelming and love and compassion is the greatest healing
ointment for them. in most cases these entities need to be taken to a place
where they can assimilate to their new change in path. unlike level 2 you
have changed your adversary into an ally.

in addition to the above i have been told by two people unknown to each
other that i have the dalai lama's protection. i find this intriguing
because i am not a buddhist though i do get the monks in my dreams. i was
told this prior to ever having seen him. david also mentioned that most (or
all?) the people in this group were well protected. i guess what i am
alluding to is that there is also a significant amount of protection that i
suspect i am not aware of.

please remember that what these levels are really divulging are different
thought patterns which are being expressed by a metaphor that resonates with
me. there are parts to that meditation which i still do not understand but
what i can say is that this meditation was pivotal for my growth. that is
this information came just when i was questioning my own safety into what i
was exploring. it gave me the confidence to keep exploring. finally this was
one of my most powerful meditations to that point in time.

so hopefully this provides some insight for some in the group.

cheers,

mawk



notes from group meditation (remembrance) 14th dec 2000

session started 10.58 am

present derek, emma and me
also assumed : donni, robbie, terri, jane, merre, robin and aaron

played tantric trilogy by the gyuto tibetan monks. did this to block out the
noise of the blowflies.

really strong energy maybe 10 minutes into the session (really no idea
though)

-vague phoenix type bird flying up.

- knight with a shield with white cross

-king and queen crowing ceremony, trumpets and flags

-sword it had a cross within a cross on the handle

-energy given to the sword, ball of pure energy entered it and gave it
incredible power

- darth vader type entity threatened. the sword came in and out of the
scabbard like a flash of lightning. darth vader ended up like dissipated
energy this faded into a ripple that vanished into a vast sea of water. got
the impression the entity had the ability to manifest into another form,
though it would not trouble me again.

- coffin changed to a cross shape with a knight arising from it and
returning to life.

- another positive entity draws a dagger. i restrain them and advise them
that now is not the time. this is accepted but not immediately.

- the round table starts to come back to life. a dull light permeates the
grain of the table.

- several knights lift their skulls from the table. they place them on their
bodies. the knights regenerate from old age to the prime of their life.

- in the form of a message 7 of the 12 have awoken. there are 5 in slumber
but will awaken shortly.

-life and energy returns to the table but is by no means complete.

-leadership has returned

-a horse with a knight charging through water, with another message that the
quest is back on track.

-pegasus will rain down assistance from above.
-solidarity is of immense importance.

-whirlpool of energy.

-another dark entity in the form of an evil knight arrived. just showed the
emblem on the handle of the sword. it made a hasty retreat.

-glowing angelic goddess entity opens her heart to me.

-we drink together from a chalice, some red wine to celebrate the union of
hearts.

-i pull out even though i am still getting more images because i do not want
to loose what i have so far.

session finishes at 11.48 am.

this is the fourth or fifth time i have looked into remembrance. knights and
quest themes seem to be a common feature. most likely it ties in with my
belief system. i think it highly unlikely that i am a reincarnate of one of
these round table knights. on the other hand their integrity and the way
they carry themselves sits well with me. as usual just more questions than
really answers.

Jeremy Weiland
08-02-2002, 07:19 AM
chris,

just so we're clear, i wasn't correcting you, just
adding my opinion.

i agree; love and meditation aren't one and the same,
though one can meditate in love. frequently, however,
it is the clarity of mind that one gains from
meditation that attunes the mind to the presence of
love in the moment. a cluttered mind is very prone to
distortions, though being love is always a choice.

> ok, coming from my previous statement, the
> individual wouldn't be trying to protect itself at
> all when being greeted. the natural vibrations the
> positive entity projects would just simply protect
> it. the negative entity in this respect would be
> weakened by the simple projection of love without
> any attachments.

right. the negative entity can only provide service
where it is requested via distortion. the closer you
get to pure love/light, the less distortion, and the
less ability there is for a negative to use your
distortions to provide their service (or attack you,
whichever you prefer).

l/l

jeremy

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Tarzan
08-02-2002, 11:05 PM
ok...i'd like to get others opinions on what
this means...the "armor for the self" part in
particular...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
it means mediating in a shiny metal suit of
armor that you find in a costumery... ;-p
also arm yourself with a "marker"--a paint
gun (with green, heart-colored splat), that
is and shoot back at anybody negative trying
to attack you. if all fails, watch
ghostbusters for their sure-fire ways of
catching those slimy characters...


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