Salvia Comment

[Chamil1950@...]

hi group,
i first need to say that i am no prude and certainly don't want to limit
anyone's free will. but, i must state my stance on the salvia divinorum. salvia
is a nitrogen-producing psychotropic plant when smoked. it falls in the same
category as thc in marijuana. if you all want to pump nitrogen into your bodies,
that's your own business, just like i tell smokers it's their business too (i
was a smoker for 33 years guys, so i know inhale). but, please, let us not talk
about it on this site, which has quite a few young, impressionable people
reading our stuff. let's please all act like the sto's we want to be and promote
healthy alternatives for mind expansion. thanks for listening chris

[Brian V. Cox]

not to belabor this, but...

isnt the majority of the air we breath nitrogen?

i'm no chemist, so i dont know what is harmful about inhaling this nitrogen
vs. that nitrogen?

just curious,

-brian


> i first need to say that i am no prude and certainly don't want to limit
anyone's free will. but, i must state my stance on the salvia divinorum. salvia
is a nitrogen-producing psychotropic plant when smoked. it falls in the same
category as thc in marijuana. if you all want to pump nitrogen into your bodies,
that's your own business, just like i tell smokers it's their business too (i
was a smoker for 33 years guys, so i know inhale). but, please, let us not talk
about it on this site, which has quite a few young, impressionable people
reading our stuff. let's please all act like the sto's we want to be and promote
healthy alternatives for mind expansion. thanks for listening chris


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[Chamil1950@...]

>not to belabor this, but...
>isnt the majority of the air we breath nitrogen?>
>i'm no chemist, so i dont know what is harmful about inhaling this nitrogen vs.
that nitrogen?>
>just curious, >
>-brian

we breathe oxygen (duh :). my biology extends to the fact that plants inhale co2
and exhale oxygen, which we breathe. rod? help? anybody? :) oh, also, i didn't
say that i quit smoking cigarettes 3 years ago-somebody sent me a private e-mail
telling me to "take control of my mind and body". i thank you for your concern
and send you my understanding. chris
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[Melanie J. Myers]

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><span class="823273002-16052002"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> i'm with you chris. i wanted to comment that any type of drugs/plants/substancesthat produce psychotropic effects on the brain is not good for spiritual growth let enough our bodies.seen friends in the past try to go this routeonly to endup with mental and emotionalconfusion, and adulled sense to their minds which is exactly the opposite of what most were trying to accomplish with it. some actually went mental. eventually you will have to stop that route as some of them had and look beyond. </font></span>
><span class="823273002-16052002"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> spiritually, it creates a thinning of your auric field(our natural protection)and will make you susceptive to entities of the kind you just don't want to deal with and have no control over self to deal with them. prematurely opening up a can of worms before they're ready to be opened.control over ones own reality, meditations and reading is the way to gain knowledge to the higher realms.</font></span>
><span class="823273002-16052002"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">too often we want short cuts. we don't really need them at this time as things are speeded up enough as is. we need only to be open to the reality of what is happening to us all. i am not trying to down anyone's time spent on this stuff just speaking from what i have seen happen to friends and acquaintances. </font></span>
><span class="823273002-16052002"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"> you know what nitrous oxide is don't you? people turn blue and die from that crap. it's laughing gas used at dental offices. i had a friend come to me and tell me about his friend that would not speak and turned blue after inhaling it. he lost consciousness as well. he is lucky to be alive. my friend asked me about it because i had studied the effects of it in school and knew the dangers. an analgesic that when you get too much can kill you basically robbing you of your oxygen and that is why this guy turned blue. hopefully he is not doing it anymore. they did it for fun just like allot of people do. just use your best judgment is all i say while not ignoring the facts of the dangers involved.i used 'rush' when i was younger. got a great high from that, better than pot. someone told me the dangers and i decided it just wasn't worth the effects. we need to reach towards god with our own will and not float along. not trying to be harsh here, just concerned.</font></span>
><span class="823273002-16052002"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">love and light,</font></span>
><span class="823273002-16052002"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">melanie</font></span>
><span class="823273002-16052002"><font face="arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">ps. the air we breathe has a perfect balance of gases we need for our bodies to ingest. nitrogen i believe robs your body of oxygen from what i remember in my a&p classes ( chemistry part whichwas not my favorite subject). perhaps rod or someone else can comment on this.</font></span>
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class="outlookmessageheader" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="tahoma" size="2">-----original message-----
from: chamil1950@aol.com [mailto:chamil1950@aol.com]
sent: wednesday, may 15, 2002 7:15 pm
to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
subject: re: re: [asc2k] salvia comment

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we breathe oxygen (duh :). my biology extends to the fact that plants inhale co2 and exhale oxygen, which we breathe. rod? help? anybody? :) oh, also, i didn't say that i quit smoking cigarettes 3 years ago-somebody sent me a private e-mail telling me to "take control of my mind and body". i thank you for your concern and send you my understanding. chris
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[Clark stewart]

in responce to the below , i follow underneath

>
>hi group,
>i first need to say that i am no prude and certainly don't want to limit
>anyone's free will. but, i must state my stance on the salvia divinorum.
>salvia is a nitrogen-producing psychotropic plant when smoked. it falls in
>the same category as thc in marijuana. if you all want to pump nitrogen
>into your bodies, that's your own business, just like i tell smokers it's
>their business too (i was a smoker for 33 years guys, so i know inhale).
>but, please, let us not talk about it on this site, which has quite a few
>young, impressionable people reading our stuff. let's please all act like
>the sto's we want to be and promote healthy alternatives for mind
>expansion. thanks for listening chris

i thank you chris for your advice, but this site is open to dealing with
this, and there are many capable minds here that good advice may be issued.
and those ' young, impressionable people' as always go elsewhere, when
curiosity is within them.
l agree with carla of the ra material, that this is a essential part of our
nature...everything in moderation.

and speaking of nitrogen, our air that we breath in is 70% , whats the
diff.?

you know i bike around the inner city , and it is the least polluted city in
canada, and i breath in various chemicals coming from the tail pipes of many
diesel, and other poorly maintained vehicles.
and there is nothin benefitial here, aspect the humbling nature of what our
petro-idiocity is doing to our environmental lungs...

and now you mention sto's...what do you think us sharing our experience/s is
about, your behavior is somewhat akin chris to trying to put out a light in
aroom.

i don't agree with it, and will continue to offer my service in all
requested forms, as allowed by as2k regulations..and this is the kinda of
shooting of the #@$% were trying to get to.

i feel were finally just starting to open up the field..

and i also disagree with the fact that there are young people here, i firmly
believe a hi % of peeps coming in here are mature souls (despite of the
chemical body age), and are quite mature-evolved enough to discuss mind
altering compounds, so if this is too personal for you chris , i would
suggest you be careful about what you digress.

and...if you are afraid of the nitrogen..then chew it, this is the
indegenous way, 25 leafs, go and read about.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml
cultivate your own plant, grow with it, love it, this is a 2d intelligence,
and a sacred one at that.
these life energies can have many insights into that which we can benefit, i
like the anology of training wheels, some need them some don't.

i welcome any others to express your ideas.please, this is a forum..and the
mic is open

pbwyall,
in service ,
clark
ps you are limiting free will, re-read your responce. this is sts, your
fear of 33yrs is now being displaced onto this group.


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[Chamil1950@...]

>and now you mention sto's...what do you think us sharing our experience/s is
about, your behavior is somewhat akin chris to trying to put out a light in a
room.
i don't agree with it, and will continue to offer my service in all requested
forms, as allowed by as2k regulations..and this is the kinda of shooting of the
#@$% were trying to get to.

clark, you are absolutely right about that, but i am concerned for everyone who
uses their free will to hurt their bodies on purpose.

>i feel were finally just starting to open up the field..
>and i also disagree with the fact that there are young people here, i firmly
believe a hi % of peeps coming in here are mature souls (despite of the chemical
body age), and are quite mature-evolved enough to discuss mind altering
compounds,

yes, i agree on this also, discussing their trips while on the drugs (i feel)
should be done off-site, in respect for the site.

so if this is too personal for you chris , i would
>suggest you be careful about what you digress.>ps you are limiting free will,
re-read your responce. this is sts, your
>fear of 33yrs is now being displaced onto this group.

no, this is not personal. this is regarding the site and following the rules of
the site. discussion of drugs is fine, but telling us about your trip on them is
not. we all know the danger of drugs. i am an human resource manager and we had
someone die in january at our firm who was a cocaine user. do you know how
helpless you feel when you see someone killing themselves and you can't do
anything about it? please, reconsider these remarks you have made and think
about what you are saying. i have not violated anyone's free will here, and you
know it. chris

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[bob_dunham]

cham1950, please slow down. first i would like to thank clark for
his comments. i dont want to pile on, but cham1950, i think you are
still emosionally effected by your loss and therefore i think you may
want to take a "time out" from this discussion. you are slipping
down a dangerous path, and it seems as though your next move may be
to request that clark be banned or sensored in some way. if you are
bothered by this discussion, dont read the emails. and dont
disrespect people based on their age or experience. i personally
want to know all about clarks experiences. it sounds like you are
the one with the problem here, please stop trying to restrict my
experiences, its distastful.....
pb&j bwyall


--- in asc2k@y..., chamil1950@a... wrote:
> >and now you mention sto's...what do you think us sharing our
experience/s is about, your behavior is somewhat akin chris
to trying to put out a light in a room.
> i don't agree with it, and will continue to offer my service in all
requested forms, as allowed by as2k regulations..and this is the
kinda of shooting of the #@$% were trying to get to.
>
> clark, you are absolutely right about that, but i am concerned for
everyone who uses their free will to hurt their bodies on purpose.
>
> >i feel were finally just starting to open up the field..
> >and i also disagree with the fact that there are young people
here, i firmly believe a hi % of peeps coming in here are mature
souls (despite of the chemical body age), and are quite mature-
evolved enough to discuss mind altering compounds,
>
> yes, i agree on this also, discussing their trips while on the
drugs (i feel) should be done off-site, in respect for the site.
>
> so if this is too personal for you chris , i would
> >suggest you be careful about what you digress.>ps you are limiting
free will, re-read your responce. this is sts, your
> >fear of 33yrs is now being displaced onto this group.
>
> no, this is not personal. this is regarding the site and following
the rules of the site. discussion of drugs is fine, but telling us
about your trip on them is not. we all know the danger of drugs. i am
an human resource manager and we had someone die in january at our
firm who was a cocaine user. do you know how helpless you feel when
you see someone killing themselves and you can't do anything about
it? please, reconsider these remarks you have made and think about
what you are saying. i have not violated anyone's free will here, and
you know it. chris
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[Chamil1950@...]

>cham1950, please slow down. first i would like to thank clark for his
comments. i dont want to pile on, but cham1950, i think you are >still
emosionally effected by your loss and therefore i think you may want to take a
"time out" from this discussion. you are slipping down a dangerous path, and it
seems as though your next move may be
>to request that clark be banned or sensored in some way.

i would never do that bob. i like clark's comments. he is one of the smartest
guys on the site and has so many great ideas. we just differ in our opinions on
this subject. hey, i certainly can't stop people from talking about their drug
trips. if david determines that this is something he wants on his site, then so
be it. i was reacting because i thought this was not what he wanted on his site.
go ahead, trip away..be my guest. chris
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[Melanie J. Myers]

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><span class="616363613-16052002"><font size="2"><font face="bell mt"><font size="3"> this is getting to be a bit much. be mature about the matter and leave it at that.chris is just concerned like i am that you are barking down a sideways path to enlightenment which will have you basically spinning your wheels and getting nowhere. if you want to continue to do it, then have at it but lay off the criticism please. perhaps david should step in on this one when he gets the chance. we have all or many experimented and those old souls that remember know that drugs of any kind only halt our spiritual growth and harm our body vehicles in the process. have you studied the effects of drugs on the body? i had 3 1/2 years of anatomy and physiology as well as other courses on the effects of drugs and have seen it ruin people personally just as chris has seen. if that is what you really want then fine except this isnot the way to ascension dear friends no matter how cool and far out it may seem as you are tripping your way through the astral realm. besides you can only go so high, you cant bridge from the lower astral realm to the higher realms on drugs. there is a barrier which prevents you. also ,see my last post on this. david please help us out here as i know you know what i am talking about here.</font></font></font></span>
><span class="616363613-16052002"><font face="bell mt">love, light and reality,</font></span>
><span class="616363613-16052002"><font face="bell mt">melanie joy</font></span>
<blockquote>
class="outlookmessageheader" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="tahoma" size="2"><font face="batang">-----original message</font>-----
from: bob_dunham [mailto:bob_dunham@hotmail.com]
sent: thursday, may 16, 2002 9:12 am
to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
subject: re: [asc2k] salvia comment

</font><tt>cham1950, please slow down. first i would like to thank clark for
his comments. i dont want to pile on, but cham1950, i think you are
still emosionally effected by your loss and therefore i think you may
want to take a "time out" from this discussion. you are slipping
down a dangerous path, and it seems as though your next move may be
to request that clark be banned or sensored in some way. if you are
bothered by this discussion, dont read the emails. and dont
disrespect people based on their age or experience. i personally
want to know all about clarks experiences. it sounds like you are
the one with the problem here, please stop trying to restrict my
experiences, its distastful.....
pb&j bwyall


</tt></blockquote>

[bob_dunham]

i new i forgott something, and that is that your next move would be
to bring david into this - make him the bad guy, wonderful. last i
knew the poor guy was busy working his ass off - "david you dont
really want these druggies on your site do you?" "i would never want
to ban clark, but if someone else does well then........."

btw, whats with all the sarcastic, "if you want to ruin your life
then go ahead garbage?" - people just want to have a discusion about
experiences, dont make assumptions please.......


--- in asc2k@y..., "melanie j. myers" <mel1961@k...> wrote:
> this is getting to be a bit much. be mature about the matter
and leave
> it at that.chris is just concerned like i am that you are barking
down a
> sideways path to enlightenment which will have you basically
spinning your
> wheels and getting nowhere. if you want to continue to do it, then
have at
> it but lay off the criticism please. perhaps david should step in
on this
> one when he gets the chance. we have all or many experimented and
those old
> souls that remember know that drugs of any kind only halt our
spiritual
> growth and harm our body vehicles in the process. have you studied
the
> effects of drugs on the body? i had 3 1/2 years of anatomy and
physiology as
> well as other courses on the effects of drugs and have seen it ruin
people
> personally just as chris has seen. if that is what you really want
then fine
> except this is not the way to ascension dear friends no matter how
cool and
> far out it may seem as you are tripping your way through the astral
realm.
> besides you can only go so high, you cant bridge from the lower
astral realm
> to the higher realms on drugs. there is a barrier which prevents
you. also
> ,see my last post on this. david please help us out here as i know
you know
> what i am talking about here.
> love, light and reality,
> melanie joy
> -----original message-----
> from: bob_dunham [mailto:bob_dunham@h...]
> sent: thursday, may 16, 2002 9:12 am
> to: asc2k@y...
> subject: re: [asc2k] salvia comment
>
>
> cham1950, please slow down. first i would like to thank clark for
> his comments. i dont want to pile on, but cham1950, i think you
are
> still emosionally effected by your loss and therefore i think you
may
> want to take a "time out" from this discussion. you are slipping
> down a dangerous path, and it seems as though your next move may
be
> to request that clark be banned or sensored in some way. if you
are
> bothered by this discussion, dont read the emails. and dont
> disrespect people based on their age or experience. i personally
> want to know all about clarks experiences. it sounds like you are
> the one with the problem here, please stop trying to restrict my
> experiences, its distastful.....
> pb&j bwyall

[Tiffani Boswell]

<table bgcolor="#ffffff">
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">just my two cents...</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">david is probably pretty busy...and he has talked about this before...so if anyone is curious you can read about in the archives...i am having issues with yahoogroups....it is not letting me sign in, i changed my password and everything and it keeps logging me in as a guest which means my groups are not able to be accessed by me...so no archive reading today :(</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">maybe it is just one more glitch along the yahoo pathway...</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">anyway...check out the archives..do a search on drugs...he has commented on this before...</font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2"></font>
><font face="arial" color="#800080" size="2">love you all
tiffani</font>
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style="font: 10pt arial">----- original message -----
style="background: #e4e4e4; font: 10pt arial; font-color: black">from: melanie j. myers (mel1961@kua.net)
style="font: 10pt arial">to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
style="font: 10pt arial">sent: thursday, may 16, 2002 8:49 am
style="font: 10pt arial">subject: re: [asc2k] salvia comment
>

><span class="616363613-16052002"><font size="2"><font face="bell mt"><font size="3"> this is getting to be a bit much. be mature about the matter and leave it at that.chris is just concerned like i am that you are barking down a sideways path to enlightenment which will have you basically spinning your wheels and getting nowhere. if you want to continue to do it, then have at it but lay off the criticism please. perhaps david should step in on this one when he gets the chance. we have all or many experimented and those old souls that remember know that drugs of any kind only halt our spiritual growth and harm our body vehicles in the process. have you studied the effects of drugs on the body? i had 3 1/2 years of anatomy and physiology as well as other courses on the effects of drugs and have seen it ruin people personally just as chris has seen. if that is what you really want then fine except this isnot the way to ascension dear friends no matter how cool and far out it may seem as you are tripping your way through the astral realm. besides you can only go so high, you cant bridge from the lower astral realm to the higher realms on drugs. there is a barrier which prevents you. also ,see my last post on this. david please help us out here as i know you know what i am talking about here.</font></font></font></span>
><span class="616363613-16052002"><font face="bell mt">love, light and reality,</font></span>
><span class="616363613-16052002"><font face="bell mt">melanie joy</font></span>
<blockquote>
class="outlookmessageheader" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="tahoma" size="2"><font face="batang">-----original message</font>-----
from: bob_dunham [mailto:bob_dunham@hotmail.com]
sent: thursday, may 16, 2002 9:12 am
to: asc2k@yahoogroups.com
subject: re: [asc2k] salvia comment

</font><tt>cham1950, please slow down. first i would like to thank clark for
his comments. i dont want to pile on, but cham1950, i think you are
still emosionally effected by your loss and therefore i think you may
want to take a "time out" from this discussion. you are slipping
down a dangerous path, and it seems as though your next move may be
to request that clark be banned or sensored in some way. if you are
bothered by this discussion, dont read the emails. and dont
disrespect people based on their age or experience. i personally
want to know all about clarks experiences. it sounds like you are
the one with the problem here, please stop trying to restrict my
experiences, its distastful.....
pb&j bwyall


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[James Derdock, Jr.]

again, my name is james and controversy follows me :)

it's all opinions and i love discussion where i hear many sides of the
debate. i usually don't walk in the "don't do drugs" circle, so i'm open to
hearing reasons why i shouldn't do these things. however, the list of
reasons i *do* do these things is getting longer and longer every month, and
others' opinions would be hard to sway me.

let me make a few comments, as i think they need to be said:

1) drugs aren't just for druggies. i am not a junkie. i don't pop pills,
snort things, or anything reckless. i spend a large portion of my time
reading about the effects of different psychotropic plants, people's
impressions of them, and how they fit into some sort of "gain
consciousness".

2) i do research. i am 22 years old and probably in the top 1% of people
who truely do their research on substances. all i'm saying here is, don't
worry about my health. you don't know me, i'm perfectly safe, and i
appreciate that you care...truely.

3) i am a huge terrence mckenna fan. that probably says alot about where i
am coming from. the best thing i ever learned from mckenna was to "not
subscribe to idealologies". i don't think psychedelics are the path to
ascension or salvation or inner peace. i *do* think that psychedelics
played a role in the evolution of man. the ape in the plains of africa
eating psilocybin and being hunted by large cats is our ancestor. i would
love to discuss this topic with anyone, if they desire.

that's all. there are no bad vibes here....i hope this discussion stays
open and no one "subscribes" to anything i say. i am a human that learned a
few things along the way. i will take what you say in this manner, and i
hope you do the same in your lives.

this is entertaining :)

james




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[Clark stewart]

most simply put by a hindu scholar i met one day at the juice bar.

i asked about all the different paths, including the shamanistic (not coke
users, these are pleasure drugs not journey-evolving-sacred plants..)please
try and see the dicotomy..however fine it is there

he said they are all valid, and they all have different merits, just like
terrence mckenna did, even though he admited to smoking weed almost every
day, and was hugely supportive of many other sacred substances. he was a
brialliant man, and that was his path...this is not a right or wrong issue
here.
{cause there is only relativistics=free will, read what carla wrote in loo
book v about her lsd exp.)

it is personal preference, and for those who choose that path i will humbly
offer what i can in guidance, when asked.
and these melanie are valid when applied with the proper training
/initiaition, which is what many world gov's have been doing around the
world for at least 100's of years, is killing off the indeginous elders and
re-assimilating them like the borg, from star trek.

this is a site of ascension, and these plants offer glimpses into the
multi-verse that we live in.
i personally am not a "drug user/abuser", but if that is what you want to
call meor anyone else, then use your judgement at your own discretion. i
understand and love you, for i am empathetic to what info/disinfo has done
to many m/b/s complexes here.

use your catalysts wisely, and try not to impose a path being right or wrong
for we are all one.
there are no unfortunate deaths in the eyes of the one, never forget
this...i now it's hard to see it this way.

pbwyall,
clark




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[David Wilcock]

from: clark stewart

i personally am not a "drug user/abuser", but if that is what you want to
call meor anyone else, then use your judgement at your own discretion. i
understand and love you, for i am empathetic to what info/disinfo has done
to many m/b/s complexes here.

dw: my statement was general and not tied to any one person. it is also a
statement that i must make when these issues come up. i do not consider
myself disinformed; i experienced using the drug marijuana for four years,
got heavily addicted and went through a recovery process. i point out that
it is one of the most common distortions to fall away with greater
self-integration. i feel no judgment or ill will towards you or anyone else,
as it was very much a part of my life at one time.

>use your catalysts wisely, and try not to impose a path being right or
wrong
for we are all one.

dw: i shared my opinion, and for now drugs are considered illegal in most
countries including my own, so the free will issue isn't quite as crystal
clear on this topic as it would be on most others. remember: if we hit new
york times, we don't want fodder for character assaults. bad enough that
"this guy thinks he was edgar cayce", etc. etc. what you all discuss
reflects on myself and on this mission directly, even if i publicly state
otherwise. i do hope that the world will pay attention to this material as
things become ever more apparent. all quotes we write are in a public
archive that can be used against us so that none of the real material is
ever even mentioned. remember that. i won't be shot with bullets but with
character assaults.

peace be with you -

- david