David Wilcock
03-24-2001, 05:10 PM
a few words before i embark on my "final completion" journey for convergence
iii... and not "coming out" until we're finished. :)
as stated on the website at http://ascension2000.com/group.htm, the primary
purpose of this list is for us to work together "to better understand and
integrate the material that is being presented on the website at this time."
the physics is a part of that, and certainly those discussions can be of
lasting value. another part of this group is to try to understand the
"cryptic meanings" in the readings that are posted. lastly, to "study and
apply the law of one teachings," which incorporate physics concepts as well
as issues related to basic and not-so-basic personal growth.
recently i did the sunday service at the fellowship of the inner light here
in virginia beach. most of my talk was covering the material that i have
assembled for my part in the upcoming multimedia tour series... and that
material is essentially fact, fact, fact with very little theory to glue it
together. the theory is left to the realm of mystery, hint-dropping and
intuition on behalf of the participants. this is what i am forced to do if i
am to make the entire "scientific" case in a half-hour, to then pave the way
for the discussions on ancient prophecies and ufo / metaphysics, which then
caps off the message of the tour and opens up the floor for discussion.
dr. mandelker constantly warned me to "be wary of confusing people" and saw
many of my most precious theories as irrelevant to the larger discussion. i
fought against this for a good bit of time and had real trouble finishing my
presentation. however, once i finally got the message, i started digging for
more of the anomalous facts that were available. that way, with the theories
i know to exist as a backdrop, i can carefully drop the m&m's like in the
movie "et" and have people follow the trail. those who get "on the scent"
and want to know more will then find this website, in which case they'll
have access to the finished convergence iii, which is coming hopefully very
soon, and shift of the ages. or, perhaps just seeing the reality of our
heliosphere charging up with energy will be enough for them to absorb the
spiritual message, look deeper within and prepare themselves for
transformation.
so anyway, i spoke at the fellowship, and most of what i talked about was
scientific... anomalies of the sun, earth, heliosphere and the like. i tied
it in with some of the work on the book of revelation towards the end.
the point is that about ten minutes into the talk, when i had already played
my flute, done my intro / joking around / general spiritual topic discussion
and had started going into the scientific stuff, after what i considered a
relatively short time of discussion there was a sort of "field effect" that
rippled through the crowd, more in the wing to my right than the wing to my
left, which is where the ceiling has a peaked top and there are more
comfortable chairs. the area to the right has a much shorter roof that is
flat, and most of the chairs are metal. (you know with the study of fractals
and vortices how much i love "field effects..." :)
anyway, what happened was that all at once, there was a sort of "collective
sigh" and easily a third to as much as half of the participants on that side
shifted their body posture at about the same time. they weren't going to
walk out on me, but a part of their group consciousness had essentially
crumbled and said, "$#!+, this guy's going to talk about science the entire
time." now granted, some of them were highly interested... in fact there was
a ten-year old girl who did not go to the children's program and maintained
vigorous eye contact with me the entire time. when i got done, she came up
to me when i had a free second ( ! ) and showed through her conversation
that she had completely followed what i was saying, where i was going with
it and the whole nine yards. the rest of the crowd around me was quite
surprised that she "got it."
just a few days ago, the "main man" of the fellowship called me up (i
haven't been attending this interfaith spiritual center lately due to the
stress of finishing the book) and essentially told me that in the future, if
i wanted to do a scientific topic, i should limit that content to one-third
of the entire time i was speaking and devote the other two-thirds to the
implications of what i said. it wasn't a condemnation, but basically a
suggestion that was designed to insure that all would be "fed" by what i
said. not everyone is 'fed' by science. a part of me wishes they were... but
another part accepts it, and i am told that this is the half that i must
nurture.
essentially, the people who were willing to accept the idea that the earth
could have a "dimensional shift" might only need a handful of hard,
anomalous facts to bump them over into the "acceptance-discussion" phase,
where the spiritual implications are met. on the other hand, those who don't
"have ears to hear" will never be convinced and might leave feeling
shortchanged; they didn't get what they had come for, which was a
spiritually uplifting experience. i did essentially tell them what i've told
everyone on my site again recently, which is to prepare because the "normal"
life is not much longer in duration; we're going to be entering some very
novel circumstances in the near future.
some people who had been very intrigued by what i said came up to me and
looked at my book. they flipped through it, saw the charts of data, saw the
pictures of geometry and something in their brains said, "oh my god, math"
and put the book down relatively quickly. then they made excuses like being
"too busy" or something like that for why they didn't want to read the book,
or they just slinked away, feeling disappointed in themselves, it appeared,
for doubting their capability to integrate what i was going to be
presenting; never minding the fact that i've tried as much as possible to
make it "easy to digest." convergence iii will be a significant improvement
in that sense, and will also cover far more philosophy than "shift."
so in my spiritual practice of applying ra's teachings, i realize that not
everyone is ready for the technical discussions... and i have to mold my
statements accordingly. and that's okay.
therefore, i suggest that all participants discuss as they will... there may
be discussions that do not suit you and you do not have to read them. that
goes for all sides... and there are no sides! however i'll bet that everyone
reads the kind of stuff that my friend said the "other two thirds" of my
talk should be... the implications of the scientific arguments, and what
that means for each person's spiritual growth and development.
i really encourage everyone here to remember that when you read my readings,
you are reading (in many cases) the personal information and material that
is occurring between my personal ego self and my higher self, which is ra. i
am on a far, far, far stricter set of criteria for personal growth and
advancement than is required for the "public" ascension into 4d. this does
not make me better than other people; it just means that i'm working on a
different set of "rules" that are required for a higher level of initiation,
which everyone will go through at some time in their development. this is a
requirement for the job that i've decided to take, which may well become far
more publicly visible in the future than it is at present. in the new book
are the foundations for free energy, anti-gravity and a worldview that
automatically proves god's existence... and such a thing will definitely
transform society just by virtue of the "strength of the light," which will
naturally attract more and more seekers.
what the forces are asking me to do in any given reading that contains
spiritual information is a byproduct of the monastic strictness and
self-perfection practices that are required for me to be allowed to have
this degree of responsibility. if i had strayed from this perfected path
then i would begin receiving information from negative beings that would
slowly but surely destroy my credibility by giving false prophecies and
misleading, positive-sounding testimonials with negative, self-serving
"seeds" laced throughout. furthermore, i would find it very difficult to go
to any "next step" and increase the visibility of the material; there would
be hardship every step of the way, and synchronicity would definitely not be
on my side.
so, what i am working on, and what an apparently large number of you are
working on, is some degree of teaching that is higher than the basic
"public" ascension into 4d. we can do a lot more while human than just
prepare for fourth density; we can actively work on the higher densities.
there is a difference, as was established with korga a while back. korga's
rather pointed stance on many issues was coming from a perspective of
"ascension" that was operationally defined as "total self-initiation into
the highest possible spiritual level while still incarnate in a human body."
these teachings, if properly applied, can lead to a quasi-godlike state
while still in a human body, with ascended abilities ready to roll. it
requires a minimum balancing of all chakral centers so that they can work in
harmony and allow you to properly work with the conscious light.
there is nothing that i or anyone else can do to further you on this
process; all that can be done is to have the information offered and then
for you to make free-will decisions to go through the grueling, rigorous
path of self-initiation. dreams are a very valuable tool in working this
process; meditation is a very valuable tool in working this process. between
those two, much can be accomplished, as you can get all levels of your mind
working in some degree of harmony instead of just the ego mind. and the
deeper levels of mind will only speak clearly to you in silence... and then
you'll just think that it's your "imagination" anyway and normally not be
able to tell the difference, even though the thoughts emerge quite
spontaneously with no effort.
the "public" ascension should be easy for the participants on this list to
meet. you already know whether you care about other people or not. all you
have to do is be just a teensy, tiny bit more caring towards others than you
are selfish and you're good to go. other factors weigh in, such as how you
think and what you put into your body, but regardless of how well you
succeed at applying other teachings, the core is love.
so, we are here in the third density to make a choice. the choice that we
are to make is love. either love others as you love yourself or love only
yourself at the expense of others. those are the two choices. one is the
positive path and one is the negative path. both, if worked properly, can
lead to you going to a higher dimensional level... one will be 100 times
more harmonious than life on earth now, and indeed will be the earth in its
newly transformed form, and the other will be a "negative space-time" that
is essentially akin to a world that has been "colonized" by an intelligence
very similar to the borg; or as the bible would say, where "satan and his
minions shall be cast for a thousand years." (i don't ascribe to the satan
thing but you see the point...)
what ra tells us is that the greatest likelihood is that the majority of
humanity will not make either choice with enough certainty; it is for this
reason that they will naturally reincarnate on another earthlike planet to
keep working the third dimension until they can make the choice. the higher
beings cannot force us to make this choice; and if we don't make the choice
then the best they can do is to provide another opportunity for us to do so.
none of you should be in the least bit 'worried' about whether you have made
the choice or not. you already know. if you don't care about other people
very much, you're probably not ready. and that's ok. if you don't want love
then you really don't need something like ascension to happen in your life
right now.
and with that, i'll close with the guidelines that everyone who joined this
list has read.
peace be with you -
- david
forum guidelines - please read
welcome, everyone, to the ascension2000 email group. it is our hope that
together we can work to better understand and integrate the material that is
being presented on the website at this time. some of the readings that come
through have cryptic meanings, and not everyone understands the radical new
physics model of understanding the universe that we are espousing.
one of the primary purposes of this group is to study and apply the law of
one teachings from an entity known as ra. we have searched far and wide and
found this to be the most effective literature for group discussion and
enlightenment. our summary book of this information, titled the ra / law of
one study guide is almost required reading for active participation.
in the interest of harmony among participants, no "flaming" posts will be
allowed. skepticism is fine but you must be polite and respectful or you
will be blocked from the forum. if anyone feels that such behavior is going
on unchecked, email us and we will take appropriate action - we may not have
checked recently enough to find it ourselves.
you may pose questions about the content on the site, but please
make them open-ended and not just directed at david wilcock. though he will
participate when time permits, he will be unable to handle all requests or
read all message threads. the purpose of the group is not to promote or
attack him, but to discuss the complex message that this site has presented.
we have a strict anti-spam policy with this group. our definition of spam
includes postings that seek to promote ideologies espoused by certain
for-profit spiritual figures or organizations. if you are not sure, please
contact the group before posting. violators will be disbarred.
iii... and not "coming out" until we're finished. :)
as stated on the website at http://ascension2000.com/group.htm, the primary
purpose of this list is for us to work together "to better understand and
integrate the material that is being presented on the website at this time."
the physics is a part of that, and certainly those discussions can be of
lasting value. another part of this group is to try to understand the
"cryptic meanings" in the readings that are posted. lastly, to "study and
apply the law of one teachings," which incorporate physics concepts as well
as issues related to basic and not-so-basic personal growth.
recently i did the sunday service at the fellowship of the inner light here
in virginia beach. most of my talk was covering the material that i have
assembled for my part in the upcoming multimedia tour series... and that
material is essentially fact, fact, fact with very little theory to glue it
together. the theory is left to the realm of mystery, hint-dropping and
intuition on behalf of the participants. this is what i am forced to do if i
am to make the entire "scientific" case in a half-hour, to then pave the way
for the discussions on ancient prophecies and ufo / metaphysics, which then
caps off the message of the tour and opens up the floor for discussion.
dr. mandelker constantly warned me to "be wary of confusing people" and saw
many of my most precious theories as irrelevant to the larger discussion. i
fought against this for a good bit of time and had real trouble finishing my
presentation. however, once i finally got the message, i started digging for
more of the anomalous facts that were available. that way, with the theories
i know to exist as a backdrop, i can carefully drop the m&m's like in the
movie "et" and have people follow the trail. those who get "on the scent"
and want to know more will then find this website, in which case they'll
have access to the finished convergence iii, which is coming hopefully very
soon, and shift of the ages. or, perhaps just seeing the reality of our
heliosphere charging up with energy will be enough for them to absorb the
spiritual message, look deeper within and prepare themselves for
transformation.
so anyway, i spoke at the fellowship, and most of what i talked about was
scientific... anomalies of the sun, earth, heliosphere and the like. i tied
it in with some of the work on the book of revelation towards the end.
the point is that about ten minutes into the talk, when i had already played
my flute, done my intro / joking around / general spiritual topic discussion
and had started going into the scientific stuff, after what i considered a
relatively short time of discussion there was a sort of "field effect" that
rippled through the crowd, more in the wing to my right than the wing to my
left, which is where the ceiling has a peaked top and there are more
comfortable chairs. the area to the right has a much shorter roof that is
flat, and most of the chairs are metal. (you know with the study of fractals
and vortices how much i love "field effects..." :)
anyway, what happened was that all at once, there was a sort of "collective
sigh" and easily a third to as much as half of the participants on that side
shifted their body posture at about the same time. they weren't going to
walk out on me, but a part of their group consciousness had essentially
crumbled and said, "$#!+, this guy's going to talk about science the entire
time." now granted, some of them were highly interested... in fact there was
a ten-year old girl who did not go to the children's program and maintained
vigorous eye contact with me the entire time. when i got done, she came up
to me when i had a free second ( ! ) and showed through her conversation
that she had completely followed what i was saying, where i was going with
it and the whole nine yards. the rest of the crowd around me was quite
surprised that she "got it."
just a few days ago, the "main man" of the fellowship called me up (i
haven't been attending this interfaith spiritual center lately due to the
stress of finishing the book) and essentially told me that in the future, if
i wanted to do a scientific topic, i should limit that content to one-third
of the entire time i was speaking and devote the other two-thirds to the
implications of what i said. it wasn't a condemnation, but basically a
suggestion that was designed to insure that all would be "fed" by what i
said. not everyone is 'fed' by science. a part of me wishes they were... but
another part accepts it, and i am told that this is the half that i must
nurture.
essentially, the people who were willing to accept the idea that the earth
could have a "dimensional shift" might only need a handful of hard,
anomalous facts to bump them over into the "acceptance-discussion" phase,
where the spiritual implications are met. on the other hand, those who don't
"have ears to hear" will never be convinced and might leave feeling
shortchanged; they didn't get what they had come for, which was a
spiritually uplifting experience. i did essentially tell them what i've told
everyone on my site again recently, which is to prepare because the "normal"
life is not much longer in duration; we're going to be entering some very
novel circumstances in the near future.
some people who had been very intrigued by what i said came up to me and
looked at my book. they flipped through it, saw the charts of data, saw the
pictures of geometry and something in their brains said, "oh my god, math"
and put the book down relatively quickly. then they made excuses like being
"too busy" or something like that for why they didn't want to read the book,
or they just slinked away, feeling disappointed in themselves, it appeared,
for doubting their capability to integrate what i was going to be
presenting; never minding the fact that i've tried as much as possible to
make it "easy to digest." convergence iii will be a significant improvement
in that sense, and will also cover far more philosophy than "shift."
so in my spiritual practice of applying ra's teachings, i realize that not
everyone is ready for the technical discussions... and i have to mold my
statements accordingly. and that's okay.
therefore, i suggest that all participants discuss as they will... there may
be discussions that do not suit you and you do not have to read them. that
goes for all sides... and there are no sides! however i'll bet that everyone
reads the kind of stuff that my friend said the "other two thirds" of my
talk should be... the implications of the scientific arguments, and what
that means for each person's spiritual growth and development.
i really encourage everyone here to remember that when you read my readings,
you are reading (in many cases) the personal information and material that
is occurring between my personal ego self and my higher self, which is ra. i
am on a far, far, far stricter set of criteria for personal growth and
advancement than is required for the "public" ascension into 4d. this does
not make me better than other people; it just means that i'm working on a
different set of "rules" that are required for a higher level of initiation,
which everyone will go through at some time in their development. this is a
requirement for the job that i've decided to take, which may well become far
more publicly visible in the future than it is at present. in the new book
are the foundations for free energy, anti-gravity and a worldview that
automatically proves god's existence... and such a thing will definitely
transform society just by virtue of the "strength of the light," which will
naturally attract more and more seekers.
what the forces are asking me to do in any given reading that contains
spiritual information is a byproduct of the monastic strictness and
self-perfection practices that are required for me to be allowed to have
this degree of responsibility. if i had strayed from this perfected path
then i would begin receiving information from negative beings that would
slowly but surely destroy my credibility by giving false prophecies and
misleading, positive-sounding testimonials with negative, self-serving
"seeds" laced throughout. furthermore, i would find it very difficult to go
to any "next step" and increase the visibility of the material; there would
be hardship every step of the way, and synchronicity would definitely not be
on my side.
so, what i am working on, and what an apparently large number of you are
working on, is some degree of teaching that is higher than the basic
"public" ascension into 4d. we can do a lot more while human than just
prepare for fourth density; we can actively work on the higher densities.
there is a difference, as was established with korga a while back. korga's
rather pointed stance on many issues was coming from a perspective of
"ascension" that was operationally defined as "total self-initiation into
the highest possible spiritual level while still incarnate in a human body."
these teachings, if properly applied, can lead to a quasi-godlike state
while still in a human body, with ascended abilities ready to roll. it
requires a minimum balancing of all chakral centers so that they can work in
harmony and allow you to properly work with the conscious light.
there is nothing that i or anyone else can do to further you on this
process; all that can be done is to have the information offered and then
for you to make free-will decisions to go through the grueling, rigorous
path of self-initiation. dreams are a very valuable tool in working this
process; meditation is a very valuable tool in working this process. between
those two, much can be accomplished, as you can get all levels of your mind
working in some degree of harmony instead of just the ego mind. and the
deeper levels of mind will only speak clearly to you in silence... and then
you'll just think that it's your "imagination" anyway and normally not be
able to tell the difference, even though the thoughts emerge quite
spontaneously with no effort.
the "public" ascension should be easy for the participants on this list to
meet. you already know whether you care about other people or not. all you
have to do is be just a teensy, tiny bit more caring towards others than you
are selfish and you're good to go. other factors weigh in, such as how you
think and what you put into your body, but regardless of how well you
succeed at applying other teachings, the core is love.
so, we are here in the third density to make a choice. the choice that we
are to make is love. either love others as you love yourself or love only
yourself at the expense of others. those are the two choices. one is the
positive path and one is the negative path. both, if worked properly, can
lead to you going to a higher dimensional level... one will be 100 times
more harmonious than life on earth now, and indeed will be the earth in its
newly transformed form, and the other will be a "negative space-time" that
is essentially akin to a world that has been "colonized" by an intelligence
very similar to the borg; or as the bible would say, where "satan and his
minions shall be cast for a thousand years." (i don't ascribe to the satan
thing but you see the point...)
what ra tells us is that the greatest likelihood is that the majority of
humanity will not make either choice with enough certainty; it is for this
reason that they will naturally reincarnate on another earthlike planet to
keep working the third dimension until they can make the choice. the higher
beings cannot force us to make this choice; and if we don't make the choice
then the best they can do is to provide another opportunity for us to do so.
none of you should be in the least bit 'worried' about whether you have made
the choice or not. you already know. if you don't care about other people
very much, you're probably not ready. and that's ok. if you don't want love
then you really don't need something like ascension to happen in your life
right now.
and with that, i'll close with the guidelines that everyone who joined this
list has read.
peace be with you -
- david
forum guidelines - please read
welcome, everyone, to the ascension2000 email group. it is our hope that
together we can work to better understand and integrate the material that is
being presented on the website at this time. some of the readings that come
through have cryptic meanings, and not everyone understands the radical new
physics model of understanding the universe that we are espousing.
one of the primary purposes of this group is to study and apply the law of
one teachings from an entity known as ra. we have searched far and wide and
found this to be the most effective literature for group discussion and
enlightenment. our summary book of this information, titled the ra / law of
one study guide is almost required reading for active participation.
in the interest of harmony among participants, no "flaming" posts will be
allowed. skepticism is fine but you must be polite and respectful or you
will be blocked from the forum. if anyone feels that such behavior is going
on unchecked, email us and we will take appropriate action - we may not have
checked recently enough to find it ourselves.
you may pose questions about the content on the site, but please
make them open-ended and not just directed at david wilcock. though he will
participate when time permits, he will be unable to handle all requests or
read all message threads. the purpose of the group is not to promote or
attack him, but to discuss the complex message that this site has presented.
we have a strict anti-spam policy with this group. our definition of spam
includes postings that seek to promote ideologies espoused by certain
for-profit spiritual figures or organizations. if you are not sure, please
contact the group before posting. violators will be disbarred.