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r-e-l
07-08-2012, 01:19 PM
PROPOSITION 1: An event called Harvest will soon occur on Earth.
Given that there has been no refutation of our assertion
that not only are we to expect a recognizable event
but one that is facilitated by higher dimensional beings (HDBs) known as “gardeners”.
Ra gives us an estimation of 30 years (from 1981).
Given the accuracy of other responses we could expect this figure to be a year or so off
in stating when the “Harvest” or return of the HDBs would occur.
On the other hand- we know of certain "records" that RA mentions
were kept and edited by HDBs assisting the South American group
of “plans” regarding their evolution. Could this be any other than the Mayan Calendar?
The fifty-two year bundle (xiuhmolpillii) signifies that Kukulkan
might return at its end- but definitely will return at the end of the final one.
We have dramatically rising evidence of ufo sightings and communications
as well as much speculation about outright interference in some military operations.
PROPOSITION 2: The Harvest will have meaning for both harvestable and un-harvestable souls.
The Harvest event will stand as the culmination of a series of incarnations
into 3D vehicles for nearly everyone here.
At least forty-six percent are incarnating by choice of body,
and between incarnations all are able to receive guidance by HDBs.
We would for the most part know at this higher level- what is coming.
PROPOSITION 3: Graduation is a placement of the soul into a higher dimension.
At some point during Harvest an experience that involves the highest level of one’s being-
not usually experienced in the life between lives, occurs within the Violet Ray.
Herein the soul is “placed” in the dimension where it will be most comfortable.
PROPOSITION 4: A realignment of the vortices of the Earth will occur.
Could a 20 degree shift of the surface to an HDB be considered
“very, very trivial”, like giving the planet a bath maybe?
For the “needs of the 3D body” a huge tidal wave is not so good.
On the other hand for the soul, could it be a mere walk in the park? -or the dark?
Is there another way to see this event occurring as recognizable to all?
Perhaps only when our caretakers return will the mystery be allowed to
disintegrate with the other manifestations of 3D vibrations-
along with the grief, frustration and melancholia they engender.
Apophis
07-14-2012, 11:10 PM
The night is darkest just before the dawn. And when all seems lost, that is when its found.
EcyaC
07-15-2012, 02:59 PM
Thanks to our 6th sense, or 3rd eye, and shows like TNG, we can bet there are omnipotent beings like Q which have an interest in human beings like Q did.
I just watched the episode where Q was made mortal for a while and I found it interesting he came to the conclusion he wasn't strong enough to be human and would rather commit suicide even though he had no clue what all death would entail (if anything)...
More often than not, the way a human is raised, or grown, does obviously have an impact on the matter and I'm thinking the omnipotent beings like Q, with an interest in selected/selecting humans, just might know this...
So basically I think a bunch of Q-like beings want to add Q-like beings to their family thus we're currently getting to be born, raised, and harvested/gathered. The ones which don't get harvested likely get to meet death where they then learn they're all of the Q-like beings put together and then some...maybe...
I like to think if you're getting synchronicity you're currently selected and being prepared for mind-boggling change. The more the synchronicity, the more they like you...maybe...
r-e-l
07-20-2012, 03:41 PM
Proposition 5: The details of events that we will all know at some point
as “harvest/graduation”, must at this “time/space” remain as mystery;
secrets revealed hazily to masters who pursue the unknowable.
Ra uses the word mystery 18 times. It is pervasive and compelling.
The mystery schools teach that we have moved from the age of Mars
and the motto “I am” through the age of Jupiter and “I believe”
to the age of Saturn and Uranus: The apocalyptic unveiling of the
age of “I know” and “heaven” –(Thanks Santos Bonacci.)
Still, it is this pursuit that eventually leads us out of the illusion.
It does not lead to rewards from the first through third dimensions,
but it can lead to a kind of reward that is valuable only to our
higher dimensional nature, such as the beauty of a synchronicity
(Thanks in advance, David Wilcock).
r-e-l
07-28-2012, 10:22 AM
POSTULATE 1:
We assert that HDB’s will overtly contact all or a significant portion of the 3D beings of earth
(incarnate or otherwise) in a meaningful way prior to an event (coming soon) whereby our spirits will be “graduated”
to a categorically different reality.
63.20 Questioner: Now as this transition continues into fourth-density activation,
in order to inhabit this fourth-density sphere it will be necessary for all third-density
physical bodies to go through the process which we refer to as death. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
Upon the bodily complex death, as you call this transition, the entity will immediately,
upon realization of its state, return to the indigo form-maker body and rest therein
until the proper future placement is made.
Here we have the anomaly of harvest. In harvest the entity will then transfer
its indigo body into violet-ray manifestation as seen in true-color yellow.
This is for the purpose of gauging the harvestability of the entity.
After this anomalous activity has been carefully completed, the entity will move into indigo body again
and be placed in the correct true-color locus in space/time and time/space
at which time the healings and learn/teachings necessary shall be completed and further incarnation needs determined.
10.9 Questioner: When graduation occurs at the end of a cycle, and entities are moved from one planet to another,
by what means do they go to a new planet?
Ra: I am Ra.
In the scheme of the Creator, the first step of the mind/body/spirit/totality/beingness is to place its mind/body/spirit complex distortion
in the proper place of love/light. This is done to ensure proper healing of the complex and eventual attunement
with the totality/beingness complex. This takes a very variable length of your time/space. After this is accomplished the experience of the cycle is dissolved
and filtered until only the distillation of distortions in its pure form remains. At this time, the harvested mind/body/spirit/totality/beingness
evaluates the density needs of its beingness and chooses the more appropriate new environment for either a repetition of the cycle
or a moving forward into the next cycle. This is the manner of the harvesting, guarded and watched over by many.
billybobbutterball
07-28-2012, 12:14 PM
Hi!
Speaking of synchronicity, Ive experienced two recent events addressing the phenomenon we call "DEATH"
Thanks to Prosveta came this daily meditation that I feel is quite apropos:
Daily Meditation: Saturday, July 28, 2012.
"In a way, death does not exist; it is contained within life; it
is simply a change of level, a change of clothing, to take us
forward in our understanding of life.
With every new role, actors change costume as well as partners,
and this new part teaches them something more about themselves
and about others. Well, with us it is the same: we cannot keep
playing the same part forever, and after a time we must leave the
world’s stage. We call this stage exit ‘death’, but
actually there is only uninterrupted life. The actor is still
alive after the show… We have to become accustomed to seeing
existence as a continuum. Humans have a bad habit of drawing
boundaries everywhere: between the spiritual and the material,
between waking and sleeping, between life and death… No,
existence continues.
Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov
Second event was my re-reading chapter 39 --titled "The Absorption " -- In Dolores
Cannon's 3rd volume of the "Convoluted Universe" series.
After receiving their radical new info Dolores concluded that up to this point they had been giving her only the bare crumbs.
The information has to do with the relationship of the Cosmos to the Source....and of course that includes our part in it. Dolores was upset because much
was contrary to what she had grown to accept as spiritual fact...Fact is she has had to update and change her mind many times over decades, Now she has to seriously rearrange the spiritual chessboard most of us are comfortable with..
Sorry to say that at one point this hot new info came to a stop. The conclusion on the other side was that Dorothy was having too much difficulty in merely getting up baby steps to the dinner table, forget being able to digest the elaborate goodies spread out for her. They gracefully backed off to wait for a better time
My effort here is sort of a pseudo posting...I can't begin to attempt a short explanation ...much deals with the nature of God being perfect and thus unchangeable...if so what are us little creative sparks of divinity doing here? And is there the hint of ??????? lurking behind the One Creator?
But the immediate thread question here concerns agreeing on a philosophy of "Death" ----one that will assuage our fears.... but that would be like trying to construct a science of Darkness (impossible) there is no logical reason to worry about it....spend energies concentrating on the spiritual science of Light!!! :rolleyes:
(near)best, BBB
r-e-l
07-29-2012, 12:07 PM
as a crucial element of our own species graduation,
in looking for guidance from the LoO series it implies
that we in part are responsible for the timing and actuation of the contact event.
Perhaps all who follow this thread might consider implementing
a frequent calling for this aid and asking for others to join in,
as it provides the impetus for the synchronicity of the event in space/time.
7.1 Questioner: […] What avenues of service, or types of service, are available
to the members of the Confederation?
Ra: […] The service available for our offering to those who call us is equivalent to the square
of the distortion/need of that calling divided by,
or integrated with, the basic Law of One in its distortion
indicating the free will of those who are not aware of the unity of creation.
10.13 Questioner: […] how [do] you empower this call?
Ra: […] The call begins with one. This call is equal to infinity and is not, as you would say, counted. It is the cornerstone. The second call is added.
The third call empowers or doubles the second, and so forth,
each additional calling doubling or granting power to all the preceding calls.
Thus, the call of many of your peoples is many, many-powered and overwhelmingly heard to the infinite reaches of the One Creation.
14.4 Ra: […] The remaining part of the cycle, we have never been gone
from your fifth dimension and have been working in this last minor cycle
to prepare for harvest.
22.17 Ra: […] This was done randomly so that free will would not be violated for there was not yet a call.
22.18 Questioner: Was the next action taken by the Confederation when a call occurred?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
MarkM
07-30-2012, 08:10 PM
r-e-l, a timely reminder!
Perhaps each chooses their own timing and actuation of the contact event, as well as that of the harvest.
The factor of an imagined fluidity of timeline or possible/probable universes throughout which we might skip constantly, seamlessly and effortlessly seems well to be considered, here.
Maybe a sign of the times is that the increase of this fluidity, approaching instantaneous 'jumpability' whereby which each choice made from moment to moment contributes somehow towards an increasingly instant reality in which our momentary perspective is more immediately defining of our universal reality.
It is said, be the change you wish to see in the world... perhaps on an individual level it is becoming less about agitating for change of outer conditions than realizing that our own choices will increasingly act to place us in the universe/timeline/possible present which suits us.
To merrily accept and be at peace with the turmoil of the world, knowing that all is ever for the best for all concerned, and that divine providence coupled with human endeavor and nascent creativity is destined to wind up in better things for all, and above all to be vigilant in the onrushing opportunities to be patient, loving and at service to everything imaginable will optimize that which becomes us and our experience.
In other words, it's possibly up to each individual to suss onto and recognize the inner ability to morph into whatever present moment. I wonder if the choices I made years ago result in me living in a drastically different world stage and set of personal circumstance than I might have? I honestly don't know, but I feel that my present perspective on the world and indeed the world I perceive and experience is of my own making.
Yet... free will is honoured above all.
Bill, yes, buddy. Death for me is something encapsulated within life, and represents the closing of an act or scene, without any cessation of overall experience.
I have often tried to express this on this forum, but your guy as is often the case makes a much more eloquent and poetic/condensed case than I.
The word or concept of 'death' is heavily pregnant with ancient preconceived connotation for our species, what with we all being 'apparently' faced with dissolution on the surface of things, and with we all having experienced and with experiencing so much loss and tragedy; yet for me it remains the ultimate con in that the connotation of cessation of being and identity is completely at odds with what I expect... just my ill informed opining... I'm half expecting a comment from Asa or 12th or SG on this! Even Billybobber! Markish
MarkM
07-30-2012, 08:23 PM
Through it all, we're all here together. Let's definitely call together. Love, hugs and kisses
EcyaC
07-30-2012, 09:00 PM
r-e-l, a timely reminder!
Perhaps each chooses their own timing and actuation of the contact event, as well as that of the harvest...
Is 'death' more of a synonym with 'transformation/harvest' or 'off'?
Do I think anything can be off forever? Nope.
Is the definition of death 'off forever'? If this is how you define it, I don't believe in it!
I like for death to mean the temporary deletion of certain characters/vehicles/batteries because I feel once you're birthed into being there can be no going back, permanently, to non-existence.
"...the LoO series it implies that we in part are responsible for the timing and actuation of the contact event."
Makes sense to me!!!
Here's just a little reminder there can be nothing, no Matrix - no Harvest, outside of absolute perfection:
"...you don't believe in any of this fate crap. You're in control of your own life, remember?...Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world. Where none suffered. Where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed that we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that as a species, human beings define their reality through misery and suffering. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from..."
clairead
08-02-2012, 07:15 AM
thank you for this thread, r-e-l. I was talking with a friend only yesterday about The Elephant in the Room (Harvest, and how most New Age people either don't know or are avoiding the topic)
r-e-l
08-05-2012, 03:50 PM
Regarding second density progress to the third Ra states:
The striving takes place through the higher second-density forms who are invested by third-density beings with an identity to the extent that they become self-aware mind/body complexes, thus becoming mind/body/spirit complexes and entering third density
But admits
There were some second-density entities which made the graduation into third density with no outside stimulus but only the efficient use of experience.
With respect to 3D being invested by 4D and above it always seems to depend on a call.
Was the next action taken by the Confederation when a call occurred?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
The call can be amplified by the minority, as Ra concurs that…
We have a condition where a . . . call was heard because, using the Law of Squares, it overrode the opposition of the Atlantean entities who were not calling.
Since we know that
There are progressive cycles for experiential use by entities.
and…
The necessity for graduation to fourth density is an ability to use, welcome, and enjoy a certain intensity of the white light of the One Infinite Creator. In your own terms at your space/time nexus this ability may be measured by your previously stated percentages of service.
We should all keep in mind that in regard to the graduates of the second major cycle Ra states:
These are planetary entities harvested … [that] chose, in fourth-density love, to immediately reincarnate in third density rather than proceeding towards fourth density.
They reincarnated, as opposed to “remaining incarnate”. As we near our planetary catharsis, ready or not…
The fourth density is, as we have said, as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour.
The energies of your Wanderers, your teachers, and your adepts at this time are all bent upon increasing the harvest.
Perhaps our calling should be made with the fear of death, which after all is only “The Transformation of the Body”
Let us remember
…the adept is one which will go beyond the green-ray which signals entry into harvestability. The adept will not simply be tapping into intelligent energy as a means of readiness for harvest but tapping into both intelligent energy and intelligent infinity for the purpose of transmuting planetary harvestability and consciousness. The means of this working lie within. The key is first, silence, and secondly, singleness of thought. Thusly a visualization which can be held steady to the inward eye for several of your minutes, as you measure time, will signal the adept’s increase in singleness of thought.
Anngy
08-12-2012, 06:15 PM
hi, have read most of the Loo readings and am a bit confused. not sure how to ask this so will just say it. about the death part of all this no one has really answered what the process is there. I have read that ascension has already started and ends on 21 dec 2012. Is ascension the harvest? And I have read that there will be these vortex like things to walk through with gaurdians helping you. Where are there vortexes going to be or are they already here? When we walk into these things what happens to our bodies since they are supposed to die? Will there be all these dead bodies in front of these vortexes? I am just a bit lost, can someone give it to me on non Ra terms. Thankyou
JohnEAngel
08-16-2012, 08:22 PM
from my understanding of the RA material, ascension is part of the harvest but only for those who choose to ascend. it's easy to contemplate within our carbon brains at this time that we should all want to ascend but when we are free of this illusion during harvest, our purity of mind may decide otherwise. in the LOO, each question asked about the harvest and RA's response I read very slowly and methodically looking, searching, wanting to comprehend as much as i could. i have decided, surmised or have chosen, that on that day, if it is not swift, but a slow beginning fraught with confusion or an unreal event, i will just surrender myself unto it. if we can consider who we are and that we have always existed, we should have no fear. if i ascend, i hope my canine brother goes with me. :)
ypocat
08-17-2012, 10:50 AM
To me, this thread is a beautiful meeting/vortex point. I can see I have jumped up a notch today, energy/vibration-wise, having found it. (I practice chakra visualisation and core-mindfulness every day.)
Here I would just like to add a few things (I haven't read through all of the Law of One yet, I'm in progress, but):
1. Based on the information in the Law of One, from the point of view of our current level of consciousness, the question whether we "die" during the Harvest, has different answers for different entities, depending on which density polarity the given entity graduates into. If the entity gradues to fourth density negative, then yes, the "dying" may be viewed in a more classical way, because in that density the "veiling" of previous incarnations is still happening. On the other hand, in the fourth density positive, the entity is aware of their previous incarnations, thus the last death (the Harvest death), wasn't really a death in the sense we are taught to think of. Of course, this all matters only to the conscious (as opposed to subconscious), awake (as opposed to asleep), human mind.
2. This is a pretty radical thought, but people here should be pretty open-minded, so I will fire. What if the nature of the Harvest completely depends on the free will and evolutionary state of the entities currently on this planet? What if Ra is a negative entity, so advanced, that in the whole Law of One channeling, the one and only false information was that about the nature of the Harvest? Or, to put it another way - what if Ra only think that they know? Certainly, these events are planned "outside of time" as we know it, but who is any single entity in the Creation, when compared to the Creator (the Creation as a whole)? Would the Creator/Creation want to be so predictable, or would the Creation be based on free will, as the most basic building block of it?
The potential complexity of Creation may be far beyond the capability of anyone in this octave to even begin to phantom, contrary to the their actual feeling of how much they understand it, no matter what their density or experience.
We should not underestimate the power of our free will, the power of our imagination, and we should certainly not see ourselves as being dependent upon someone else, some other entities coming here and telling us what to do. We all are Creators, no less. We need to keep this in mind at all times. What will happen is what we will make happen.
(Also, not that the "dying" would matter that much, but another 2 references have just come to my mind. First, Ra states that well/perfectly-balanced third-density entities do not really age, they simply get tired and then "leave". Second, what about all the rainbow-body accounts.)
(Also, a small note, I'm noticing that many people think of fourth density as of a single place (the same for everyone who goes there), and additionally, this place being this same planet Earth. First, the fourth density has many "planes", just as third density has the astral plane etc., and every entity ends up in the plane most conductive for their own growth. Second, I remember Ra mentioning that the early fourth density entities are not yet capable of hiding themselves from the third density entities (implying that this is necessary to do), and thus (implying) they will be migrated to a planet where they won't have to deal with interference from third density, either because (and this is my assumption/imagination completely) there are no third density entities able to interfere, or there are fourth density entities advanced enough to hide the fourth density from the third density completely.)
Dtris
08-17-2012, 01:07 PM
ypocat, keep reading :) Some of your questions will be answered by further reading of the Ra material. The nature of the harvest depending on free will is an interesting idea. I personally do not think that any higher density beings would be necessary for the harvest to occur. I get the impression that they help with the harvest as a way of furthering their own progress in their density.
Enkidu
08-17-2012, 03:06 PM
I agree with Dtris
The role of higher density energies during the harvest is one of oversight and service to others. Thus acting in a way to help further their own evolution via a "positive" pathway.
Dtris
08-17-2012, 04:48 PM
I would guess that negative entities will aid in the harvest of the Service to Self oriented individuals on this planet as well. Probably by directing their incarnation into a sphere in 4th density which they have control over as a means of increasing their own polarity.
billybobbutterball
08-17-2012, 07:28 PM
I would guess that negative entities will aid in the harvest of the Service to Self oriented individuals on this planet as well. Probably by directing their incarnation into a sphere in 4th density which they have control over as a means of increasing their own polarity.
Hmm?...Hi Dtris
That is an interesting thought of yours.
The "service to self" entities that will qualify for a negative 4th plane will be those meeting the 95% sts requirement. Their number in comparison will be very few...Heck, even Hitler wasn't able to meet it! The remaining majority will most certainly be cared for by positive entities.
Hmm...in any case the disembodied entities are going to get off the spirit elevator at the level most suiting their vibration. As I remember, entities in the high six density have a different relationship as to vibration...I can't put it in words...its no longer a problem ?? Maybe Mark M can help there.
About 4th density/dimension...Time? Seems there is some confusion...There are those who say that ascending souls will end up bypassing the 4th and end up in 5th dimension (or higher) ...But that offers a problem in that we have heard so very much about the 4th and those in it.
What does it take to get up and out of 3rd? Perhaps merely a high vibration -- the product of a strong, positive attitude free from fear... easier said than done I'm afraid..(Whoops!)
best, lots of love and positive well-wishing, etc ad infinitum! BBBB
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