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SgtPppr
03-12-2001, 04:22 PM
i was wondering what some of you peoples thoughts were on medication for
mental illnesses (such as paxil, prozac, and zolaf). i have been
prescribed paxil for depression and anxiety, but after take it off and on
now for two years, i'm not sure whether or not it is a hinderance to the
ascension process. i am pulled between the two ideas that (1) depression
and other mental illnesses may in fact be considered "illnesses" only
because they are not expereinced by a majority of the population and they
may in fact be the first evolutionary steps showing or (2) that they are
in fact illnesses caused by chemical imbalances in the same way colds and
flu are caused by viruses/bacteria and should be treated with medication.
i've struggled with this for some time and i'd love to hear your thoughts
on the matter. thanx!

steve devries
http://www.immaculatedreams.com

John Markey
03-12-2001, 06:23 PM
steve:

this is a touchy subject, so i'll do my best in sharing my two cents.

first, i think a problem of duration should be looked at from more than one
angle,
but i always feel medical expertise is important. at the same time, i
encourage the
use of an enlightened medical doctor or practicioner. chinese educated
doctors
who work with chi and herbs as well as modern ethical drugs would be my
first
preference. second, i have pretty good awareness of energy and many years
[lifetimes] of working with energy. it is my experience that when the heart
center begins
to open properly, it oftentimes leaves an empty feeling in between, when the
heart
center has closed down to allow the main structure of the body and
personality to
reestablish a new balance. i've seen these "moods" take days to clear, and i
know a few
freinds who have been in this for a few years. one dear friend of mine has
let go the use of
all prescribed meds, because she felt she was shown in a dream what was
going on
spiritually was "ok".

a third bias i have - there is no data as to longterm effects of
psychoactive ethical drugs.

having said all this, i have seen friends who used the prescribed drugs just
long enough to
help restore a new balance that enabled them to keep on in their growth
cycle.
prozac helped one friend to see a few casual links between her childhood
[mother]
and self defeating modes she used as an adult. having had professional
guidance,
she did several sessions reviewing this old programing. in talking with her,
she told me
that the "gift" of the depression was that it enabled her to see these
patterns at a time when
she said she was ready to see them. she felt strongly that she would never
have engaged
the patterns earlier. an interesting and holistic perspective to say the
least.

my father is adding in here - the older drugs were traps - thorazine being a
notorious drug
for permanent addiction. he says to be sure you don't "null out" your
emotions. it is proper
to tone it down, but you need some of the depression to help you in your
growth.

as always, your mileage may vary. godbless you on this path. it is
difficult, but i have seen
great rewards to those with the courage and grace to make it through the
depression.

i'll share with you one technique i use effectively [for me, of course].
when the depression
hits hard, i like to just "look around inside" and see if everything is
alright. generally, the
surprise answer is "i'm ok, but the depression is on me like a suit of
clothes."
oftentimes this realization gives me a subtle ability to calm down and ride
the "depression"
out. as time has gone on, i have seen that the feeling is oftentimes related
to an openning,
or stretching, in my soul structure [soul body if you will]. not
coincidentally, i also
experience a need to move onto something new, whether it's doing a new
physical routine,
meeting new people, seeking a new job, etc. these oftentimes are not the
real process
so much as they hel me move through the growth.

so, there you have it. my two cents worth !!!

in love,

john





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> i was wondering what some of you peoples thoughts were on medication for
> mental illnesses (such as paxil, prozac, and zolaf). i have been
> prescribed paxil for depression and anxiety, but after take it off and on
> now for two years, i'm not sure whether or not it is a hinderance to the
> ascension process. i am pulled between the two ideas that (1) depression
> and other mental illnesses may in fact be considered "illnesses" only
> because they are not expereinced by a majority of the population and they
> may in fact be the first evolutionary steps showing or (2) that they are
> in fact illnesses caused by chemical imbalances in the same way colds and
> flu are caused by viruses/bacteria and should be treated with medication.
> i've struggled with this for some time and i'd love to hear your thoughts
> on the matter. thanx!
>
> steve devries
> http://www.immaculatedreams.com
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memorysurplus@...
05-03-2001, 06:15 PM
i have been diagnosed with many things including bipolar, ptsd,
generial anxioty disorder, asperger sydrom, high function autism and
some others. also have learning disabilites.. i cant spell very good
(lol)

i feel that if one is born out of the norm and what the system may
consider defective enought to be given a lable then medication cannot
help most of the time. if these issues developed after birth as a
result of bad experiences or anything that can be contributed to
environemental conditions then i think it would be a good idea to
find the source of these issues and come to an understanding.
medications in my opinion should only be used in combination of self
healing and should not be considered a quik fix...

this is just my opinion based on my experiences. you should seek the
solution that best fits you. feel free to e-mail me back anytime.

--- in asc2k@y..., sgtpppr <spdevrie@s...> wrote:
> i was wondering what some of you peoples thoughts were on
medication for
> mental illnesses (such as paxil, prozac, and zolaf). i have been
> prescribed paxil for depression and anxiety, but after take it off
and on
> now for two years, i'm not sure whether or not it is a hinderance
to the
> ascension process. i am pulled between the two ideas that (1)
depression
> and other mental illnesses may in fact be considered "illnesses"
only
> because they are not expereinced by a majority of the population
and they
> may in fact be the first evolutionary steps showing or (2) that
they are
> in fact illnesses caused by chemical imbalances in the same way
colds and
> flu are caused by viruses/bacteria and should be treated with
medication.
> i've struggled with this for some time and i'd love to hear your
thoughts
> on the matter. thanx!
>
> steve devries
> http://www.immaculatedreams.com