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luckymom
09-30-2011, 10:20 AM
hello all,
first post here. i've read the study guide for the law of one, and have a ton of questions, but i'll only ask one that i can't seem to find an answer to:
if people who undergo brain damage due to illness or accident, and have a subsequent personality change, how does this affect their spiritual path? will our souls have aspects of our personalities/likes/dislikes etc, which i think are things we humans tend to look for as evidence or reincarnation? it's been studied that the brain has a personality center so to speak, so i'm wondering if that is harmed, how that translates into the material in loo. i'm trying to fit the pieces together.
thanks!:)
Sammy
10-02-2011, 06:36 AM
hello all,
first post here. i've read the study guide for the law of one, and have a ton of questions, but i'll only ask one that i can't seem to find an answer to:
if people who undergo brain damage due to illness or accident, and have a subsequent personality change, how does this affect their spiritual path? will our souls have aspects of our personalities/likes/dislikes etc, which i think are things we humans tend to look for as evidence or reincarnation? it's been studied that the brain has a personality center so to speak, so i'm wondering if that is harmed, how that translates into the material in loo. i'm trying to fit the pieces together.
thanks!:)
the issue with brain trauna is that thier brain isnt running at full capicity anymore. some parts that made that person who they were, are now missing. its possible to get some of it back, but head trauma is an awfull state and all my wishes go out to anyone with it.
Sammy
10-02-2011, 06:58 AM
very sorry for this but my response was regarding the implications only on earth. or rather what we see of them now in thier body. who we are in whole, is always preserved and is who we will become in death. these are just my beliefs, but i see a body and brain just as the current tool for a whole consciousness. i think this might be why its so hard to do things we dont understand, your body has to do something the will/consciousness didnt intend.
i have to ask "you dont have to answer", when i come to certain points of this response, ive had to stop myself from typing "your husband" probably 6 or 7 times in regards to the injured. any truth to that?
Dtris
10-02-2011, 07:24 AM
one of the interesting things about brain damage research is that there are cases of people getting injuries that should have changed their behaviors or personality yet they didn't. if we view the physical brain as a type of interface to allow the consciousness to communicate with the body then a brain injury would be like damaging the hardware in a comp, you may still overheat your cpu or get processing errors but there will be no problems with the software. i would think that going through that experience would be something that could provide a lot of catalyst. the lessons learned would perhaps have more value in subsequent incarnations although there may be temporary loss of polarity due to the trauma.
Apophis
10-02-2011, 01:09 PM
humm...
in davids new book the source field investigations, he talks about a few cases where someone has lost half of there entire brain, and they are functioning just as normal as could be, or very close to normal. he sites this as such; the brain as we know it is merely an antenna. this means the influences of your spiritual path, or "energy's that steer your life" may not have a good reception any longer. this may cause someone to "redirect" where those influences are seen. just like adjusting the bunny ears on an old tv, not that those are around any longer....
another thing that could possibly be the case, which is talked about in the loo, could be that the person is now a walk-in. however to say this we would need more information. such as, was the person pronounced clinically dead for a time? and then resuscitated? how much of there personality has changed? is it like a 180? or are there subtle differences? were there majorly deteriorating activities this person was involved in, that have now vanished?
one thing i would certainly suggest, is that you include the recognition of all things being one with the creator in your prayers. all things find a balance.
luckymom
10-02-2011, 07:56 PM
thank you all, for your insights. thankfully, i don't know anyone with brain trauma personally, but recently when discussing some of the points of the loo with another person, they mentioned the personality residing in the brain, and how that can be essentially 'turned off' or affected by physical trauma, and they thought that because of this, then how can the personality be a spiritual thing. i haven't yet come upon the ra material in my readings regarding this (i'm moving very slowly through it), and my curiosity was very piqued. i am also currently reading the biography of the mother of the current dalai lama, and in the intro, the nephew of the dalai, who helped write the book, writes about how he believes his sister, who was tragically killed at an early age in a car accident, later re-incarnated as his baby daughter. he mentions having a dream where his sister states this, plus examples of his daughter's personality traits, likes and dislikes that very closely match those of his deceased sister. so having read this, and being faced with the whole brain injury/personality angle that i hadn't thought of, i came here seeking information.
i join my prayers and well-wishes to those that have been offered for anyone out there that suffers from this. upon more thought, i think i like and agree with the software/hardware analogy, and will present this point of view to the person i was discussing this with when we talk next.
thanks again! :)
Sammy
10-03-2011, 06:50 AM
thank you all, for your insights. thankfully, i don't know anyone with brain trauma personally, but recently when discussing some of the points of the loo with another person, they mentioned the personality residing in the brain, and how that can be essentially 'turned off' or affected by physical trauma, and they thought that because of this, then how can the personality be a spiritual thing. i haven't yet come upon the ra material in my readings regarding this (i'm moving very slowly through it), and my curiosity was very piqued. i am also currently reading the biography of the mother of the current dalai lama, and in the intro, the nephew of the dalai, who helped write the book, writes about how he believes his sister, who was tragically killed at an early age in a car accident, later re-incarnated as his baby daughter. he mentions having a dream where his sister states this, plus examples of his daughter's personality traits, likes and dislikes that very closely match those of his deceased sister. so having read this, and being faced with the whole brain injury/personality angle that i hadn't thought of, i came here seeking information.
i join my prayers and well-wishes to those that have been offered for anyone out there that suffers from this. upon more thought, i think i like and agree with the software/hardware analogy, and will present this point of view to the person i was discussing this with when we talk next.
thanks again! :)
oh thank god! it was just wierd enough with how many times i almost typed it, i had to ask.
one of my better childhood friends owned a 64 jeep truck. the thing was huge and he was a bit of a crazy driver, offroad and whatnot. a bit of a country boy you could say haha. so this jeep is old enough that the laws dont require you to install seatbelts if they dont have them allready. so he opted not too, because he thought it was cool to legaly break the law. well he took a sharp right corner one day and his door flew open. he started falling out, because he had his elbow in the window. he caught the stearing wheel with the inner elbow of his other arm, which stopped him from falling out. however the made the truck turn super sharp and it flipped. he was halfway out when this happened, and the truck landed on his head.
i saw him maybe 2 years after it happened when he was telling me all this. he said the doctors wherent sure he would ever function again, and were leaning towards the worste. he said he still cant remember much from anything before the accident. he had to completely re-learn how to read and write, as well as talk and eat. according to the doctors he has made a complete and total recovery, with no idea how.
luckymom
10-06-2011, 03:48 PM
oh my, sammy! i'm glad your friend survived and has recovered. what a thing to go through. it's also amazing how much we don't know about the brain, or a bunch of other things, for that matter. ;)
love and light! :-)
Sammy
10-06-2011, 05:40 PM
oh my, sammy! i'm glad your friend survived and has recovered. what a thing to go through. it's also amazing how much we don't know about the brain, or a bunch of other things, for that matter. ;)
love and light! :-)
thank you for saying so.
it astonishes me daily what we dont know haha>
billybobbutterball
10-06-2011, 07:08 PM
hello all,
first post here. i've read the study guide for the law of one, and have a ton of questions, but i'll only ask one that i can't seem to find an answer to:
if people who undergo brain damage due to illness or accident, and have a subsequent personality change, how does this affect their spiritual path? will our souls have aspects of our personalities/likes/dislikes etc, which i think are things we humans tend to look for as evidence or reincarnation? it's been studied that the brain has a personality center so to speak, so i'm wondering if that is harmed, how that translates into the material in loo. i'm trying to fit the pieces together.
thanks!:)
hi there luckymom!...you are indeed lucky in that you came to the right place. only trouble is that billybobbutterball is filling in for the really knowledgeable ra material scholars on vacation.
so here goes some over-simplifications. #1 thing to understand is that the soul has borrowed a body -- not the other way around e.g., in which the body originates a soul.
it is indeed an apparent tragedy when brain injury plays havoc with the delicate arrangement. but despite abberate behavior from physical injury the indwelling soul is not affected in the same manner on the spiritual plane. now there may be a karmic reason for the disturbance in the blending of soul and body-- which would open a real can of worms...but please be assured that all will be resolved in the end.
of those three entities that were responsible for bringing us the information we call, "the ra material",
one (the active questioner) became psychotic; following a long period of agonizing distress he committed a violent act of suicide..the background of that unexpected turn of events is covered in the supplemental volume 5. (you can google llresearch which is the home of the ra material and do some searching)
happily,there was information coming later that the soul in question was intact---and doing fine.
from another credible source* we understand that only a fraction of a soul makes the incarnation voyage. a greater soul "mass" is on the other side -- busy on other projects...some at a very advanced level. of side interest is that the three souls involved in this story were advanced entities (which we call "wanderers)...two being 6th density, one 5th. (they were not told which was which for obvious reasons.) they all had worked together in the past and came on board as a team with an agenda.
i hope some of this will be a help. it does take a while for even an uninjured brain to come up to speed!
my best wishes! and best of luck, luckymom!! luv! bbb
* dolores cannon's three (now four) volumes, "the convoluted universe"
luckymom
10-07-2011, 07:18 PM
thank you for the welcome and the insight, bbb! (love your username.) :-)
i didn't know about mr. elkin, how tragic. i guess it's hard to wrap my mind around the fact that his soul (i'm assuming complete with inherent personality traits?) was fine after that experience, but i'm glad he is intact and doing fine. as for only part of the soul making the reincarnation journey, i'm glad you brought that up. it reminded me that i had actually heard or read that eons ago in my childhood, but i can't remember exactly when or where. but when i read it just now, i knew i had 'known' that before and it rang true again just now. fascinating...
on a somewhat unrelated subject, i recently heard that scientists have developed some sort of chip that can capture and transfer one person's memories to another's.
##### link on site posted not responding...suspected of being a prank by mod, bbbb
it's chilling to think what this technology can do in the hands of the negatively oriented, yet i can't wait till we're all ascended enough so we can communicate telepathically in love and light, lol!
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