ascension in each cycle [Archive] - Divine Cosmos Discussions

Tiffani Boswell

04-17-2002, 10:39 AM

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>I again encourage everyone to reread the past messages (posts) in the archives of the group...especially with the new influx of subscribers!) that should help alot...there are alot of tasty conversations and alot of answered questions and even readings from David...post 222 is GREAT from David about basic ascension stuff for newcomers and oldies as well....
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>(for seth and pat...i am posting all of these emails differently to keep topics separate...even though it is more emails...possibly it is less to weed through as each email has a specific purpose and not ten different streams...if you have any other ideas please let me know) 
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>"Supposedly 25% should Ascend at the end of the first cycle, the bulk, say 60% or so in the second and the remaining stragglers make it out in the third, if there are even any left. If not, then the planet simply 'hangs out' in third density until it naturally moves through that part of the cycle. Sounds like a nice plan." - Wilcock from post #222
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>ok...if this is the way it was "supposed" to work (but didn't, thus the influx of wanderers) what would have happened to the "few" left in the last 25,000 year cycle...would procreation have increased the population...thus more 3D souls that were starting out? or would all have been wanderers helping the last "few" ...where would these souls have come from...is the "supposed to have happened" this way comment from a previous Logos experience...or just what they (confederation, Logos) had hoped....
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>Tiffani

Crasher2ooo@...

04-19-2002, 03:45 AM

Hi Tiffani...

Right ive been reading through Ra to try and find answers to your questions and have found some interesting info that I hadnt picked up on before...

Tiff: ok...if this is the way it was "supposed" to work (but didn't, thus the influx of wanderers) what would have happened to the "few" left in the last 25,000 year cycle...



Ra: We became concerned. We allowed entry of other entities, not Wanderers, into 3rd density. This was done randomly so that free will would not be violated for there was not yet a call.

What this basically means is that after the second 25000 year cycle where only 150 entities were available for harvest Ra became concerned... but because there had not yet been a call for help made by the people of Earth an influx of wanderer's was not permitted, instead many random (presumably 3D entites) incarnated on the Earth plane.

Elkins: When was the first call for help sent out?



Ra: The first calling was that of the Atlanteans [about a 1/4 of the way through the current 25000 year cycle] in a time before they became technologically advanced. At about the time when we first appeared in the skies over Egypt, other entities of the Confederation appeared unto Atlanteans.

So... Ra then states that once the call was made Ra and various other conferderation members began visitations to various peoples of Earth... I assume it was at this time when wanderers were permitted to incarnate upon planet Earth (the study guide goes off onto another topic here, there may be more info in the Ra books).

Tiff: is the "supposed to have happened" this way comment from a previous Logos experience...or just what they (confederation, Logos) had hoped...

I would have though that their expectations were derrived from past experience due to a Ra makes on the visitations the confederation carried out on Earth...

Elkins: What conditions were necessary for these visitations to occur?

Ra: There were two:

(1) the calling by those whose square overcame the resistance of those

unwilling to search or learn.

(2) the relative naivetÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃ ÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂ ÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂ© of those members of the Confederation who felt that

transfer of information to the Atlanteans would be as helpful to them as it had

been for the Confederation entity. We remind you that we were one of the naive

members of the Confederation and are still trying to recoup the damage for which

we feel responsibility.

Tiff: what would have happened to the "few" left in the last 25,000 year cycle...would procreation have increased the population...thus more 3D souls that were starting out? or would all have been wanderers helping the last "few" ...where would these souls have come from...

I cant seem to find any info in Ra about planets that have massive second cycle harvests or the conditions of the third cycle if such a large harvest had been achieved.

Robin.