Your thoughts on "infinite rock-ness'?

[Ens Entium]

i have a question relating to what ra refers to when they speak of "infinte rock-ness".

"how were the pyramids built?

i. they were built by the force of one

ra: the larger pyramids were built by our ability using the forces

the stones are alive. this has not been understood by your culture. (b1, s2, 72-73)

ii. how were the blocks making up the pyramids moved?

ra: imagine the activity within all that is created. the energy, though finite, is quite large. this energy is intelligent. it is hierarchical. just as you have a hierarchy of vehicles, or bodies, so does each atom of such a material as rock.

when one can speak to that intelligence, the finite, physical energy of the physical rock body is put into contact with that infinite energy which is resident in the more well-tuned higher bodies, be they rock or human.

with this connection made a request may be given. the intelligence of infinite rock-ness communicates to its physical vehicle or body, and that splitting and moving which is desired is then carried out. (b1, s3, 77)"

hi,

i have a question about that 'infinite rock-ness'.. what is it?? is it the purest essence of that rock? is the nature of that essence mental? does this essence 'reside' in the inner planes?

this might be a stupid question and even though it's not appreciable 'weight' in the grand scope of things, i do feel that a resolution could provide cosmological insight.

just to clarify, as i understand this, the infinite rock-ness is what configures the intelligent energy available in progressively material 'bodies' of the 'rock-ness' which results in the rock having physical manifestation?

is this the facilitation behind the ability to communicate with the "intelligence'?

would this be correct?
i would appreciate any input, thanks.

kyle

[Enkidu]

from my understanding the infinite rock-ness is the intelligent totality of the potentiated light/love love/light in the form of rock. it is the "consciousness" of rock.

the entities of ra communicated with the entity of rock on its wavelength, asked it to split where it was desired, and the consciousness (or rock-ness) then oblidged and activated these physical changes upon its molecular structure through the use of intelligent energy.

to put it very simply

ra: "rock, we would like you to split here, here and here please"

rock-ness: "okay"

[Ens Entium]

hey there

thanks for the reply. that helps. i thought though that i should clear up why i posted the thread, coz i realise tat it may come cross as random and 'flat' in terms of how much people can share and discuss about this. i realise that this isn't really significant in terms of our evolution, but i'm curious.

i was thinking about how, in the ascension process, the light-body activation that david speaks about, works. and also, how this light-body (indigo-ray body??) facilitates our movement along the 'steps of light' and into a higher density. this got me thinking about how the inner planes differ from the higher densities and about how the inner planes exist with respect to the higher densities.

are they same across all densities or does each density have a corresponding set of inner planes? would harvest from 4th density to 5th density require the activation of a 4th density inner plane body? or is this just required to move out of 3rd density illusion? does all density progession require some communication with our own infiniteness? is this how the violet-ray body carries out our transformation and manifestation in a new density?? am i misunderstanding what this light body is?

to get back to the main point, i was wondering if higher density just means that the light in that density carries a greater density of 'information' - greater carry through of intelligent energy and intensity of expression of intelligent infinity.. whereas the inner planes progressively manifest in more and more the purity of the immaterial essence/idea-signature of things and beings. does this make sense guys? or am i totally off?

anyone who can help with clarification on this?

so then i recognised that that quote might help in getting a revealing response from someone who understands this better. i'm sorry for the lack of depth in the original post but hopefully there'll be more in this one to discuss. so, that was where that odd question came from.

again, any input is appreciated.

*kyle.

[12thUranus]

kyle,
i thought your original post was very good. i also thought you answered it yourself toward the end and enkido answered the same. i wanted to reply, but opted not to be redundant.

i don't rightly follow your next post. perhaps, if i read it a couple more times, i'll follow. right now, i'm like "huh?:confused:" - not a reflection on you.

[InBetweenPlace]

this might be a stupid question and even though it's not appreciable 'weight' in the grand scope of things, i do feel that a resolution could provide cosmological insight.

just to clarify, as i understand this, the infinite rock-ness is what configures the intelligent energy available in progressively material 'bodies' of the 'rock-ness' which results in the rock having physical manifestation?

is this the facilitation behind the ability to communicate with the "intelligence'?

kyle

@ ens entium - i think you have nailed it, sir!

the intelligence forms a pattern - a template - into which the stuff of matter is then attached, buidling the rock. it's the same with everything. the "rock-ness" is the intelligent template. it is interactive with consciousness, and is a part of consciousness, in the same way that everything is a part of consciousness. as everything has its own template, the spiritual intelligence that informs the template builds whatever it is that is being built.

this is not the facilitation behind the ability to communicate with this intelligence, as for rocks, trees, or whatever. the facilitation is your ability to become one with the rock-ness, or whatever it is, to make friends with it, to say hello. once you say hello, which cannot be done merely with your mind, but requires your spiritual self to do the contacting, you can request the rock to do something. of course, i can see that this would take a lot of practice. but becoming one with the rock would be the means of communication.

is this helpful to you?

jc

[evolving]

this is the same way that jehoshua was able to walk on water and change water to wine, etc etc.. or how a person can use pk to bend a spoon or move something "with the mind".

[mwr1026]

...the facilitation is your ability to become one with the rock-ness, or whatever it is, to make friends with it, to say hello. once you say hello, which cannot be done merely with your mind, but requires your spiritual self to do the contacting, you can request the rock to do something. of course, i can see that this would take a lot of practice. but becoming one with the rock would be the means of communication.
jc, your comment really struck a chord with me. this notion of saying hello to the rock, but not at the level of the mind feels extremely important. my only concern with your comment is that i doubt that "a lot of practice" is the key. much practice suggests mastery of a technique to me, and that is fraught with the perils of ego. rather it seems to me that simply being with the rock is the key. allowing rockness. being at ease in the presence of rockness. permitting rockness to approach you on its own terms, as a coequal presence. allowing rockness to communicate oneness in a flow that is clearly not darkened by a desire for mastery over the rock, but rather is intent on knowing rockness as a peer expression of being.

i'm probably nitpicking at your phrasing here, and apologize for that, but i think there is a useful refinement that comes out of it.

[Banana123]

@ ens entium - i think you have nailed it, sir!

the intelligence forms a pattern - a template - into which the stuff of matter is then attached, buidling the rock. it's the same with everything. the "rock-ness" is the intelligent template. it is interactive with consciousness, and is a part of consciousness, in the same way that everything is a part of consciousness. as everything has its own template, the spiritual intelligence that informs the template builds whatever it is that is being built.

this is not the facilitation behind the ability to communicate with this intelligence, as for rocks, trees, or whatever. the facilitation is your ability to become one with the rock-ness, or whatever it is, to make friends with it, to say hello. once you say hello, which cannot be done merely with your mind, but requires your spiritual self to do the contacting, you can request the rock to do something. of course, i can see that this would take a lot of practice. but becoming one with the rock would be the means of communication.

is this helpful to you?

jc



just wanted to chime in on this very interesting subject...
let us also remember, the particle/wave relationship of the universe, so not only are you looking at the rock, or saying hello to the rock, but sub-atomic particles at one point(in my opinion) decided to materialize/crystalize into mass. as this happens, the physical rock doesn't actually materialize all the way physically in the wave demention. rather it would look ,more or less, like looking at a rock through a kelidescope in the other, wave demention. (use your minds eye to view this image)...then naturally because you live in the same universe, our minds/consiousness/reality, are also an evolved process of nature.which takes the possibility of that rock and mentally reassembles the rock, yourself, the reality in witch you can view the rock, and allows your consious mind to also
chose to aknowladge or not aknowladge the existance of the rock. if the rock is close enough to you in the wave demention however, your subconsious mind will know it is there. (for example someone under hypnosis giving details of a crime scene their concious mind has blocked.)
i believe just by consiously agknowladging the rock and wanting to be connected to the rock, in wave reality... wave you (also known as aura) is actually sending energy(in the form of ionization/ potential energy) to the wave possibility of the rock.) and the rock in turn is giving off some of its "rock-ness", whose wave you can absorb if you so desire.(look into crystal healing) you can get the same effect from living beings, although i would highly suggest you practice transmitting/ recieving energies in the wave demention on pets ,trees, sacred areas in nature, crystals, ect. before you try it with humans, unless you have decided to heal someone.
manipulation of another being's aura for your own reasons, even if only to practice can be destructive. if you have not cultivated the heart of a giver/healer don't even bother.

thank you anyone who actually reads my insane run on sentance. banana123

[InBetweenPlace]

@mwr


jc, your comment really struck a chord with me. this notion of saying hello to the rock, but not at the level of the mind feels extremely important. my only concern with your comment is that i doubt that "a lot of practice" is the key. much practice suggests mastery of a technique to me, and that is fraught with the perils of ego. rather it seems to me that simply being with the rock is the key. allowing rockness. being at ease in the presence of rockness. permitting rockness to approach you on its own terms, as a coequal presence. allowing rockness to communicate oneness in a flow that is clearly not darkened by a desire for mastery over the rock, but rather is intent on knowing rockness as a peer expression of being.

i'm probably nitpicking at your phrasing here, and apologize for that, but i think there is a useful refinement that comes out of it.


you are quite right about the idea that practicing to mastery may lead to inflated ego. allow me to elaborate, since this is a fine tuned meaning.

it takes practice for most people to be able to become one with anything - a person, a rock, a tree, the ocean. i don't need that practice, since i am an empath and needed to learn how not to do that constantly, though i still don't know how to give instructions to fill in rock from a spiritual template.

step 1. so, a (shall we say) "more normal" person than i would first need to learn how to "become one" in general, which they would do, of course, by allowing, and by overcoming any fear that arises that they will get "lost."

as a further clarification on this first point, one would not actually become one with the material rock itself, but with the template, the "rockness," the intelligence that gives the rock its properties and existence. your essence, your spiritual core you, is already one with the template. we don't ever actually "become one" with anything, anyway, since we are already one with everything. when we talk about "becoming one" what we are really saying is that we alter our perception so that we realize that we are one, which is, again, allowing, and using our non-physical senses to do the perceiving.

step 2. after one would learn how to know/determine whether one's spirit had actually perceived correctly the contact with the intelligence of the rock's template, which is a matter of fine tuning one's perception, one could then begin to talk to or listen to objects and living things. i do this when i do psychometry with objects. i have talked to trees this way - and my cats, believe it or not. same process. when i do psychometry with stones, they send me images and sounds. i perceive that as communication, wouldn't you? :)

step 3. the final step would be to be able to influence the template to draw into itself the materials necessary to fill in the substance of rock, so that the building blocks could come into existence, or to cause existing rock to split or to dig itself out of a quarry. this is not something i know how to do. i would have to learn, so it would be knowledge.

so, on the one hand, it's a spiritual ability, to make that contact with the intelligence of the rock. on the other hand, it's a technique of perceiving to be sure you are actually doing it. and further, it would be applied knowledge - a technique - that would be used for the final step, of filling in or of quarrying the rock. if this were automatic knowledge, we would all know how. it seems to me that some things are prevented, until the surrounding dimension supports the application of that knowledge. the ra beings were able to use this technique to build the pyramids, because they were not of this dimension and brought their powers with them into our dimension.

after musing on this, i think it is possible that a being can do this (though perhaps not at our level), and out of ego, use it to cause harm, not only with rocks, but with people, too. (people also have templates.) it is a technique, but not a physical one. it is accomplished by connecting spiritually with the intelligent template, of psychologically realizing there is no difference between you and what you seek to become one with, and thus influence it with will/intent. it should work, whether the being is positive or negative polarity. the difference would be the intent and will of the being, so that if it were possible for beings lower than 6th density to build pyramids, in the way described by ra in the first few sessions of book i, then both negative and positive beings could do this. however, from what i have read, it seems that positive/negative starts getting fuzzy around 6th density, so i would not like to venture here into a discussion about 6th density.

did i address your question, mwr? excellent question, by the way.

jc

[mwr1026]

did i address your question, mwr? excellent question, by the way.

my grasp of all of this is tenuous at best. but you keep saying things that trigger new insights, and a sense that all of this is only just beyond my grasp.

[morphonius821]

having read some of the ra material,
(where it is stated that the great pyramid was manifested as one unit even though it is divided into blocks)
and also being conversant in the pyramid pump theories/evidence:
http://sentinelkennels.com/research_article_v41.html
it is very apparent just how suggestive this ram pump is of a more "down to earth" construction method and how convienient this evidence is.

undoubtedly if these details of its structure (the cut blocks) were manifested in an elaborate ruse to give the reality of this manifestation "plausible deniability" then it has indeed been a very effective strategy.

this point of contention in my mind (manifestation not construction) seems to me to be a very similar one to what the christians employed last century to explain away the scientific dating of dinosaur fossils...
i.e. that they were created 4000 years ago along with biblical creation (or what ever) so as to test man's faith... that was a very fat pill to swallow!

one can not help feeling torn.

on one hand i can accept that such feats are not impossible, especially for the highest of "agencies" but on the other the faith necessary to accept this discrepancy gives one's "common sense" quite a battering.

but it is interesting that besides this even the pyramid pump guys point out the other evidence relating to the pump itself being designed and used to create a resonance wave with-in the pyramid's structure and cleverly focusing this on the main chamber etc... as this is still very suggestive of some kind of spiritual initiation system, in the same ball park as the ra material describes in this respect.

and thinking about it more deeply, even though it is apparent due to the pump being (in the foundations and) being available with a ready and abundant supply of water (perfect for a more down to earth construction senerio) that this is still none the less a very tedious and manual process (even though it is possible) and that other aspects of the pyramid's structure indicate extremely advanced method were used.

one example being that the surface of the blocks are "cut" to optical precision, a feat still practically possible today and really infinitely pointless to attempt if it were not in fact just symptomatic of a mega advanced "technology" one probably not needing to float blocks on rafts.

but still i would love to see microscopic scans of the grain in the granite structure of these blocks to show possible physical evidence of perhaps a much more ordered grain structure than would be possible from natural formation.....
(that would be the smoking gun i guess)

so maybe manifestation is not so long a bow to draw as it first appears. (who knows)
(but i would love to see the story of what a scientific examination of the granite stucture would tell....)

p.s.

also as a side note to this it would be interesting to see david wilcock's personal opinion on the construction aspect of this as cayce stated that the blocks were in fact floated (be it through the air not water) into position.

not that this in anyway detracts from the inherent value of the ra material more broadly but it is obviously a contentious point in my mind anyway and perhaps (i don't know) even in david wilcock's?

[Natho]

[quote=morphonius821;57737]

this point of contention in my mind (manifestation not construction) seems to me to be a very similar one to what the christians employed last century to explain away the scientific dating of dinosaur fossils...
i.e. that they were created 4000 years ago along with biblical creation (or what ever) so as to test man's faith... that was a very fat pill to swallow!

one can not help feeling torn.

on one hand i can accept that such feats are not impossible, especially for the highest of "agencies" but on the other the faith necessary to accept this discrepancy gives one's "common sense" quite a battering.
[quote]

there is no reason to be torn, nor to have your common sence battered. say ra's words are truth. would this not make the current so called 'common sence' distorted to a degree? indeed, for most that has been tought to us is folly. i guess thats why we are here, to re-evaluate what we know.

i wont bother having a say on the 'rock-ness" as it seems to have been explained well by reply. i might add to the fray "earth-ness" - "fire-ness" - wind-ness" - water-ness".

all is light

[MarkM]

i find the link provided by morphonius821 to be most fascinating!

i wrestled my way through the whole article and came away with the feeling that there may be something to this theory of the inner passageways and chambers of the pyramid comprising a means of setting up resonance waves of sound meant to vibrate the king's chamber.

there is given a schematic drawing of a hydraulic ram pump, a simple device once used to elevate water at a time before electrical pumps were available. this schematic resembles the inner layout of the great pyramid, and the article goes on to explain how the gp may have once been active as a giant water powered ram pump, creating a huge infra-sonic vibrating of the king's chamber and thus perhaps the entire gp as well.

luckily i bypassed the vids presented at the beginning of the article upon first pass through the article, as the vids offered are lacking in background info and as they stand they do not do justice to the theory. they seem to be isolated snippets, and if they had been watched by me at the outset i would have yawned and quickly moved on to other things.

to me, the evidence seems to me to be compelling that the inner bowels of the gp may have comprised a great machine designed to create a tuned vibration of the gp. i imagine also that the presence of the other two smaller pyramids on the giza plateau might have been designed to resonate in sympathy with the gp, creating a harmonic chord of vibration.

here, the king's chamber might have acted as an initiation point of a huge infrasonic chording of soundwaves, and the fact that the gp incorporates features such as being in harmonic size relation to the earth as well as existing on one of the node points of the global grid suggests that there may have been some kind of interaction or amplifying effect between the fact that pyramids serve as torsion field amplifyers/focallizers - with the king's chamber also serving as a focallizing point of hyper-dimensional torsion energy - and sound harmonics. the sound harmonics seem the voice of earth.

it seems to me that there exists no intrinsic conflict with introducing any new concept dealing with the miraculous structures on giza and the potentially multi-faceted functionality of this machine. the pyramid timeline, the incredibly accurate alignments of the gp and machine-optical precision of the casing stones (tuned), the evidence supporting incredible age for the structures on giza, and the suggestions by ra that 'the cutting and moving' were accomplished by direct thought/contact with intelligent infinity without the 3d physical muscle bound, linear mathematical intervention of men - all of these things may have been built into the entire organic achievement of giza without suggesting anything more impossible or contradictory than the even greater complexities and multi-fold functions of the human body.

anyone else checked out the meat of the article? mark

[Natho]

im not too familiar with hydraulics, say for suspention. as morphonius said with ra's method of construction as it having the "ruse/confusion" added so that no man could truly understand how it was done, it seems to me that everytime scientists attempt to penetrate the pyramids secrets, they discover things they were not looking for.

-in 2012 enigma, david showed that the inner paths had been defined (not by david), and had 'dates' allined to the steps that co-insided to calender. it seemed all aspects of the pyramids could be defined via math and numerology, it was stated.

-we were told the pyramids enhanced the 'harmonics/vibrations' of the earth and were used for healing and training.

-scientists discovered, by utilising a pyramid structure, they could enhance seeds and vegetaion that were placed inside for periods of time.

the list goes on, in the area of ideals. what im getting at is that the pyramids themselves seem to be 'teaching' us, like an encyclopedia, and they hold tonnes of information. ra is known for being discreet in nature due to free will and explained that whatever knowledge is given must be deciphered in a way. there just seems to be no end of what can be discovered from these structures, they are truly advanced in many ways.
id love to throw some constructive input in on the matter of pyramids, but sadly im one of those people that has to stand back and watch others discover these amazing things, but i do attempt to relate where i can.

keep it up lads :)