April 4th, 2010 blog update discussion thread

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guys, i am really looking forward to the new book.

it's going to be like upgrading from xp to "something better". seriously...

been out of the loop for a bit, and i really want to get back into the science side of things (because science can be fun). i'm hoping going over the original trilogy will hold me over in the meantime, but... i want documented proof of those pesky time traveling dinosaurs, darnit.

the interesting thing for me was i'd just gotten through the first final fantasy game (while watching camelot videos, don't judge me), which is about fighting a demon from the past trying to project himself into the future. and of course, the synopsis for entangled reads pretty much the same way. very intriguing how close the two seem to be at a glance...

nice to see a change from the usual cult-sponsored brain trash out there. the real stuff... i get the "illimani", that's pretty obvious. switch some letters around and throw in a "t" and tell pat sajak you can solve the puzzle... and the sulpa character is the "dawn of the new day", "return of the king", "marduk" figure that has been mentioned in the jordan maxwell, et al, interviews?

evidence for karma on a massive, civilization scale would be pretty impressive (i don't need much convincing, but others do). one can observe such a thing in their own daily lives, like certain people having congruences with unrelated others. and of course reincarnated celebrities and historic figures are there, too, being dumb and human and trying to figure things out. a lot of old karma from atlantis there on the collective scale, i'm sure, as well. looking up synchro-mysticism will bring up some interesting connections... this coincides with terrence mckenna's hypothesis of 2012 being the eschaton, that is the ending of all the preordained, prescribed, causal events, as time repeats in an archetypal, holographic, cymatic scale...

and if any of you missed the shroud of turin documentary sunday night on the history channel, you missed something amazing... basically, they did to the shroud what they had been doing to the death masks of other famous persons. for instance, in one episode they took the two life casts of abraham lincoln and made a 3d cgi character out of him, and subsequently did the same to the likes of washington, julius caesar, napoleon.

but, this time, they did it to jesus... wow.

and they were able to conclusively validate the shroud past the earlier 13th century carbon mis-dating, and how it wound up in europe via the templars. and they did say that the best possible way they could explain how the image made it onto there, since the imprint has no residue and is only 2 microfibers deep, was some kind of massive luminary expulsion, since the shroud is pretty much this 14-foot long photo negative that conveniently let them construct a 3d figure from...

like an "ascension" event...? (this particularity was also mentioned in some of mr. wilcock's prior work.)

good stuff...

[Fortyball]

and they were able to conclusively validate the shroud past the earlier 13th century carbon mis-dating, and how it wound up in europe via the templars. and they did say that the best possible way they could explain how the image made it onto there, since the imprint has no residue and is only 2 microfibers deep, was some kind of massive luminary expulsion, since the shroud is pretty much this 14-foot long photo negative that conveniently let them construct a 3d figure from...

yea i think i saw a bit of that, the shroud was repaired in the thirteenth century weaving linen into it, they sampled the wrong place.

very interested about the film negative thing, i cant remember that in the programme, have you any more info on that by any chance?

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while not in so many words, i was able to find a couple of articles that where some information can be found--
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageid=135321
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageid=131177

i do seem to remember him definitely comparing it to a photo negative... downing said that the image was unlikely to have been painted on, because of the distortions in the shape of the image, its superficial depth, absence of applied pigments, and other factors.

its comparison to a negative was, like a negative, it provided full 3 dimensional information, almost as if it were, one could say, for their convenience in the 21st century.

[MarkM]

this shroud has always fascinated me - another of the proposed relics, much like the fabled fragments of the 'true' cross which are kept to this day in many an ecclesiastical venue!

jacques demolay
1244-1314 ad
last grand master of the order of the temple
(the templars)

jacques de molay was arrested in 1307 and tortured by an inquisitor named imbert. he was charged with denying christ and with spitting on the cross. he, in mockery of the crucifixion was made, allegedly, to undergo the trials of christ; including the scourging, the spear to the side, the crown of thorns, the crucifixion, and the burial shroud (thus completing the final mockery, in the mind of imbert); though he was not killed here, and lived a few more years before his eventual execution.

de molay was executed along with fellow templar senior geoffrey de charney. it is known that the shroud turned up in the possession of the family of de charney, 50 years later.

the body of an endurance athlete is known to produce large quantities of lactic acid, and so would the body of one who is made to undergo the rigours of a crucifixion. the body labours to gain enough oxygen while depended so, thus lactic acid is wrung from the pores as a result of less than optimum respiration, and shock to the body while having undergone such a trial.

a leaf pressed within the pages of a book is known to sometimes create an almost photographic image of itself, as its ebbing life creates an acidic effluent which 'burns' the book pages, creating an image which may contain enough 'photographic' data with which to extrapolate a 3d image. as with a leaf, much like a human body which is not perfectly flat, the acuity of the acidic impingement upon the page would vary inversely due to the relative difference in distance of parts of the leaf to the page - thus providing the data with which to extrapolate a 3d image.

while i don't suggest that this is what i believe to be the true story behind the providence of the shroud, i believe that there is circumstantial evidence suggesting that there may be an equally fascinating heritage to the shroud - three independant teams of researchers have carbon-dated the shroud to the 1300's. for those interested, i'd recommend researching 'shroud of turin jacques de molay'. controversial, yes! mark

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hey mark!

you've just got to check out the documentary... it goes into detail about the carbon dating and circumstances under which that was done. additionally, there are artistic references to the shroud which predate the 13th century, a corresponding blood stained face cloth from spain which has been dated prior as well, and there are pollen traces on the shroud from flora that are exclusive to the jerusalem region, for example.

but i think the molay-templar connection you touched upon is crucial. just what was it in the holy land did they find, one wonders, and perhaps the shroud could have been one of the relics they brought back with them to europe.

the skepticism of a believer differs from that of a doubter, but both desire the truth... yeshua bin yusef of nazareth as a jedi/ djedy/ pyramid initiate and post mortem ascension seem to make sense given the paradigm of knowledge we're working with here...

scandalous!