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madonnafra
04-03-2002, 04:20 AM
<font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font COLOR="#ff0080" SIZE="2" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Verdana" LANG="0">That is exactly what I am attempting to do. Many people are going through these same experiences without any support or acknowledgment. Medical doctors are unable to find answers to the recurring symptoms that people face. Only recently are Psychotherapists listening and finding ways to assist the victims who have had nowhere to turn. Just the telling of the incident to someone who will not ridicule them can be extremely therapeutic. Knowing that you are not alone is sometimes the most healing part of all.

Blessings,

Gayle</font>

gayle78247
04-03-2002, 07:26 AM
Because I feel that this is such an important issue, I am posting
this in as many places as I can think of. Our Military, Govt and the
Media has made a concerted effort to keep us in the Dark about this
but I am determined to tell as many people as possible that this
phenomena is real and that if you are experiencing this, You Are Not
Alone. For additional information concerning how we have been Lied
to I suggest the book Project Mindshift The Re-education of the
American Public Concerning Extraterrestrial Life 1947-Present written
by Michael Mannion.
Gayle
Hello Everyone,
I have spent the last week studying all of the abduction materials
that I can get my hands on. After reading The Mothman Prophecies I
became aware that at some point in the late Sixties the knowledge
that had been acquired concerning UFO and Entities was buried. I
mentioned this last month but confirmation came to me from so many
directions that I realized that it was now time to dig into the
available materials and see what I could come up with.
A local Psychotherapist contacted me after finding my name in a
Chemtrails article on the Internet. In her e-mail to me she said
that she had been aware of Chemtrails for about eighteen months. She
said that she was an author and directed me to her website:
http://www.reachingforreality.com/ She also gave me her phone number
to contact her. I attempted to connect with her but was only able to
leave a message.
The same day, Wednesday last week, that I went to Ms Clear's site,
my daughter Alicia asked me to take her to the library because she
was out of reading material. While waiting for her to chose her
books I got on the Library reference computer and looked up the book
Reaching For Reality. Not only was it listed but it was also
available. When I went to the shelf to locate it I found that there
was a comprehensive section of UFO/ET books that I never knew about.
I checked out some books that looked interesting to me including
Reaching For Reality and started reading. I was almost finished with
Ms Clear's book by the time that she called me back on Friday. I
mentioned the realization that I'd had about the cover-up and she
told me about a Life Magazine article that she had been given by a
friend dated April 7, 1952. It was a ten page comprehensive account
of ET/UFO
activity that had been observed and reported up to that time. A link
to the cover of that issue is:
http://www.life.com/Life/covers/1952/cv040752.html
The article was entitled There Is A Case For Interplanetary Saucers.
Constance said that the article was amazing and I hope to be able to
read it for myself one of these days.
I have learned alot about abductions by way of reading all of these
books (I have been back to the Library again to get more since my
discovery of the UFO/ET section) Lets just say that the shelf is
pretty empty. One of the more disturbing items was that such a
large percentage of the population of Earth is being Taken.
Speilberg has made a film by that name that will be coming out around
Christmas. From what I understand it is based on a book written by
Dr. Karla Turner entitled Taken: Inside the Alien-Human Abduction
Agenda.
I have also learned that many of the symptoms that I have experienced
over the years is common to Abductees. Until I decide whether I will
be hypnotized, I will only Know for myself that this is the Truth for
me. Spirit tells me that not only have I been Taken for most of my
life but that my Mother was abducted also. I have also been told
that all four of my children have been examined at various times in
their lives and that my Husband has been a victim, but only because
of his connection with me. My youngest, Jenny, was recently Taken and
woke up in the morning on Saturday with two four inch long scratches
on her shoulder and one on her leg, along with numerous bruises that
she can't account for. At the same time that she was experiencing
this I woke up with conjunctivitis, which I now know is a symptom of
exposure to ETs and UFOs. Colloidal Silver was very helpful in
clearing up my right eye and I found out about it by "accident". The
night before I had gotten some Silver in my left eye when I put some
on a raw spot on my eyebrow. The next morning I only had the red mess
in my right eye. My left eye was completely clear. I proceeded to
put some Silver in my right eye and it cleared up in a few hours. It
wasn't until reading The Mothman Prophecies that I found out that
conjunctivitis symptoms are common among abductees.
Some other common symptoms are waking up feeling like you've been
beaten, history of interaction with the Military in some way,
recurrent ear infections, nosebleeds and sinus congestion,
unexplained bruises and raw spots on your skin, numbness in your
hands and feet. You also might recall hearing strange beeping sounds,
buzzing or experienced vibrations throughout your body. There are
reports of missing time and extreme fear of being alone or in the
dark. I have been through it all but until doing this research I
wasn't aware that there was a connection between these things.
Ms Clear has been asked to help in putting together a show on
abductions that will be shown on the Sci-Fi channel sometime this
year and she asked me yesterday if I would be willing to participate
with my children. I have told her that I need to Pray about it and
she said that she would give me all the time that I need. I can tell
you that I feel that it has been kept secret long enough, that enough
people have suffered in silence, that knowing that your children are
being Taken is a horrible, helpless feeling and that it is time to
bring this issue out into the Open.
Blessings,
Gayle

zhing311
04-03-2002, 08:58 AM
I admire your openess on this subject, but what do you hope to
accomplish? Its an unpreventable phenomanon, or something like
that. I guess the best thing you can do is to try to help people who
have gone through this experience. Your higher self has agreed to
allow you to be abducted, and somewhere in RA or Seth I think it says
that the aliens only know "your higher self," and they are not
nessesarily aware that you have not agreed to these abductions on a
consciuos level, or something like that. All you can do is come to
gripps with what is happening, and learn from it - easy for me to say
isnt it.



--- In asc2k@y..., "gayle78247" <gs5555@a...> wrote:
> Because I feel that this is such an important issue, I am posting
> this in as many places as I can think of. Our Military, Govt and

madonnafra
04-05-2002, 12:52 AM
<font FACE="arial,helvetica"><font SIZE="2" FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Verdana" LANG="0">Mawk,

You are not the first person to read Fear in my words. I must learn to express myself better so as not to leave that impression.

I "know" that I have been Taken since a very early age and it is a useless waste of energy to feel Fear in the face of such a long time relationship. What has long been hidden in conscious and subconscious glimpses and dreams is now being shown to me on my inner screen as a progression that I have willingly taken part in. It was my Anger about the Taking of my children that came out as Fear and as I now have confirmation that they have been participating for all of their lives as well, that Anger is dissolved. As I spoke to my children and my nephews yesterday, I became aware that they have a more conscious awareness of their interaction with the Beings. It does not bring Fear to the surface for them and instead they are fascinated by the idea of living in two different realms simultaneously. I brought up some Visions that are now clearer in my mind and they related their own memories of similar events. They have been better prepared than our generation was and are excited about this added dimension which in turn facilitates and frees me to discuss these issues more openly. Thank GOD for the Children. As Jesus said "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of Heaven".

Blessings,

Gayle</font>

Mawk
04-05-2002, 02:54 AM
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><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002">Hi Gayle,</span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002"></span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002">You have broached both an important and complex topic. It is also very topical for me as well, on both a research level and a personal level. First, with respect to the research level, I am doing second year psychology at university and my major assignment for developmental psychology is on false memory. Most people are exploring this issue with respect to the more traditional areas of child abuse, hypnotherapy and psychotherapy. I am toying with the idea of also raising the issue of alien abduction. To date the only source I can find that meets the peer review process, required for citing on the university database, is Dr John E Mack's book,Abduction. If anyone else knows ofarticles that meet the peer review process for psychologyand is on this topic please e-mail them to me.</span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002"></span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002">On a personal level this issue has been around me for most of my life. The story begins for me, as far as my conscious memory is concerned, in the late 60's. My father was a pilot in the Royal Australia Navy. He was brought up in England, so when the opportunity to be lent to the Royal Navy for 3 years came up, he jumped at it.My family was posted to the North of Scotland for three years, I was three years old when we left Australia. I guess from about the age of 4 or 5 I started having what I now realise to be OBE and Alien experiences. At the time this was put down to my vivid imagination and my infatuation with the TV show Dr Who. The resulting nightmares from these experiences were horrific for me at that age. I remember waking in my bed and being frozen in fear, unable to move and often wetting my bed. The bed wetting became such a problem that a Doctor suggested a machine that would give me a mild shock every time I wet the bed. This made no difference, the fear was that overwhelming. When I got back to Australia the alien experiences stopped but so did my dreams. I actually can't recall one dream from when my family left Europe in 1969, till roughly two to three years ago. All through my childhood and teens I got bleeding noses for no obvious reason. I also knew that what I was seeing on TV was completely different to what I was experiencing in my dreams. As I reflect on this aspect of my life I thinkmy conscious and unconscious mind basically stopped communicating to one another due to the associated fear. </span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002"></span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002">In the late 80's I saw my first picture of a Gray. I was shocked because these guys looked exactly the same as my childhood dreams of some 20 years earlier. After the initial shock I just kept this to myself. Over time though I realised that apart from my fear really nothing else was happening that was overly inconvenient. Shortly after this realisation my dreams returned with a vengeance. Some even had aliens in them, though not Grays, and it was OK. I even started to be shown things, sometimes personal and sometimes on a world scale. One dream where I was shown the world energy grid was particularly special for me. I really love my dreams now and look forward to them. To me the hurdle was all about fear. Now that I have conquered this the barriers of limitation have come crumbling down.</span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002"></span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002">One person who was a great help for me was an Australian lady named Jo. She has been providing therapy for abductees for over 20 years. She has also done lecture tours with Uri Geller and Dr John Mack. I met Jo through an internet forum. Jo recommended a book called "Bashar: A blueprint for change" which I found hugely beneficial. While I have no way of verifying what is in the book, or what I have said here for that matter, innately it resonated deeply with me. Like Ra, Bashar suggests that we have agreed to this on a soul level. I suggest you get the book as it may help you greatly with you battle.</span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002"></span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002">Jo tells me that she has also foundout about the soul agreement with her clients time after time. So I guess this is where you and I depart. If I fear anyone now, it is the hidden people who pull the strings in business, religion, academia and politics. Further it is not their power I fear but their stupidity and ignorance. BTW in S Greer's book, he suggests that one of the reasons for continued secrecy with respect to celestials (for better term than ET's) is, because big business has benefited hugely from back engineering projects. In reality the royalties from these advances should have been shared with humanity and not a select group of mates. His book is a very worthwhile read. I forget the title but a search under "the disclosure project and Greer" should do the trick.</span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002"></span></font><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002"></span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002">Jo also thinks that there are up to 40 different groups that are visiting Earth regularly. I am lucky because I live in a very quiet location away from major roads and my nearest neighbour is close to a mile away. This means that most of the time the only noise I hear is made by nature or me. It also means that I can easily sense the vibration of higher density beings when they are around. I know I am not imagining it either because I have asked others if they can hear it and they all say "yes what is it?" I usually just shrug my shoulders and say "interesting don't you think!" This is actually one of my goals at the moment, to find a way to communicate with them more clearly. I welcome their presence though and I know that is why they are there. I just call them my 5D mates. A clairvoyant has told me that she could communicate with them. The clairvoyant passed on the message that I was once one of them and that they missed me dearly. I have no idea if this is correct or not but I was touched by such a loving remark, as I still am by their presence. Now that is progress from bed wetting don't you think!!</span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002"></span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002">There is much more to this Gayle, when you including my findings through meditation and remote viewing. As usual though I am conscious of writing to much. To many the above is overwhelming, or just ridiculous, andin the past I could clearly include myself here. I hope I have shared a glimpse though of the light at the end of the tunnel. You could even say it isSTO, thoughmore accurately STC(ET), in your sleep:-)</span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002"></span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002">You have my absolute empathy with the fear aspect as I hope the above imparts. </span></font>
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><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002">Sweet Dreams,</span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002"></span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002">Mawk</span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002"></span></font>
><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="840355304-05042002">PS Many thanks for your other posts as well, I have thoroughly enjoyed them. </span></font>
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