Density progressions

[TheChosen]

from the law of one, once 4d is activated, 3d is no longer inhabited... now my questions is the following.

the last time we had a density shift from 2d to 3d .. it lasted 1350 years. if there was a density shift into 3d then how come we still have 1d and 2d life forms on this planet, why they didn't make it? if only 'some' transition into the next density , then it would make sense the same for 4d , that only 'some' transition with 3d life still being able to coexist

it is very clear (from the example given of venus being a planet to undergo shift into 4d etc) .. that even after the shift, the planet still exists at least into 1d (not sure if they have life form there to support 2d or 3d)

basically i would like to understand happens to all the 1d and 2d life forms on the planet after the 4th density shift? i have not been able to find that information in the law of one.

[TheChosen]

ok , so i found the answer :)



questioner: i would like to continue with the questions about the fact that in fourth-density the red, orange, and green energies will be activated; yellow, blue, etc. being in potentiation. right now, we have green energies activated. they have been activated for the last 45 years. i am wondering about the transition through this period so that the green is totally activated and the yellow is in potentiation. what will we lose as the yellow goes from activation into potentiation, and what will we gain as green comes into total activation, and what is the process?

ra: i am ra. it is misleading to speak of gains and losses when dealing with the subject of the cycle’s ending and the green-ray cycle beginning upon your sphere. it is to be kept in the forefront of the faculties of intelligence that there is one creation in which there is no loss. there are progressive cycles for experiential use by entities. we may now address your query.

as the green-ray cycle or the density of love and understanding begins to take shape the yellow-ray plane or earth which you now enjoy in your dance will cease to be inhabited for some period of your space/time as the space/time necessary for fourth-density entities to learn their ability to shield their density from that of third is learned. after this period there will come a time when third-density may again cycle on the yellow-ray sphere.

meanwhile there is another sphere, congruent to a great extent with yellow ray, forming. this fourth-density sphere coexists with first, second, and third. it is of a denser nature due to the rotational core atomic aspects of its material. we have discussed this subject with you.

the fourth-density entities which incarnate at this space/time are fourth-density in the view of experience but are incarnating in less dense vehicles due to desire to experience and aid in the birth of fourth-density upon this plane.

you may note that fourth-density entities have a great abundance of compassion.


apparently 1d and 2d life go on the planet. 3d is unhabitable for some time. a portion transitions to 4d earth , some go to other plenets.. and the majority (from another quote) repeath 3d .. either on earth or another planets.

[evolving]

apparently 1d and 2d life go on the planet. 3d is unhabitable for some time. a portion transitions to 4d earth , some go to other plenets.. and the majority (from another quote) repeath 3d .. either on earth or another planets.

at the time of the harvest earth goes into 3rd density potentiation and 4th density activation. none repeat 3rd density on earth. those requiring to repeat the 3rd density sto and sts cycles will be doing so on another planet which is not earth. those of 4th density sto polarity will remain on earth. those of 4th desnity sts polarity will go to another planet which is not earth.

1d and 2d will remain in activation.

[TheChosen]

evolving: could you please provide some quotes from the law of one supporting that none repeat 3d on earth?

there is another quote that says that 3d will be active again some time in the future after the 4d has learned how to shield itself. it is only logical that once 3d is active again that it may be inhabited by previous residents of the planet (among many others)

[evolving]

evolving: could you please provide some quotes from the law of one supporting that none repeat 3d on earth?

there is another quote that says that 3d will be active again some time in the future after the 4d has learned how to shield itself. it is only logical that once 3d is active again that it may be inhabited by previous residents of the planet (among many others)

cycles are called so because they are cyclical, so yes, it is possible that earth could be used in the future for further 3rd density cycles, as long as the planetary sphere remains inhabitable. the length of time for a 4th density cycle is (i just clarified this somewhere else, so i think this number is correct) 75 million years, and whether 4th density shields itself or not, 3rd and 4th densities are not potentiated at the same time. this is due to the differences which cause distress to the 3rd density entities.

here are some quotes for you brother:



17 (http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=17&ss=1).24 (http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=17&ss=1#24) questioner: in other words there will be fewer negative entities than positive entities harvested into the fourth density. is this correct?

ra: i am ra. this is correct. the great majority of your peoples will repeat third density.


43 (http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=43&ss=1).25 (http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=43&ss=1#25) questioner: on this planet after the harvest is complete, will fourth-density beings be incarnate on the surface as we know it now?

ra: i am ra. the probability/possibility vortices indicate this to be most likely.


43 (http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=43&ss=1).26 (http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=43&ss=1#26) questioner: then will there be at that time any fifth-density or sixth-density beings on the surface of the planet?

ra: i am ra. not for a fairly long measure of your time as fourth-density beings need to spend their learn/teaching space/time with their own density’s entities.


63 (http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=63&ss=1).32 (http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=63&ss=1#32) questioner: when the third-density goes out of activation and into potentiation that will leave us with a planet that is first, second, and fourth-density. at that time there will be no activated third-density vibrations on this planet. am i correct in assuming that all third-density vibrations on this planet now are those vibrations that compose the bodily complexes of entities such as we are; that that is the sum total of third-density vibrations on this planet at this time?

ra: i am ra. this is incorrect only in that in addition to the mind/body/spirit complexes of third-density there are the artifacts, thought-forms, and feelings which these co-creators have produced. this is third-density.

i will look for the exact quotes for you brother, but now it is time for me to meditate. adonai.

[TheChosen]

thanks for those quotes.. as i wrote above if we focus on this one:



as the green-ray cycle or the density of love and understanding begins to take shape the yellow-ray plane or earth which you now enjoy in your dance will cease to be inhabited for some period of your space/time as the space/time necessary for fourth-density entities to learn their ability to shield their density from that of third is learned. after this period there will come a time when third-density may again cycle on the yellow-ray sphere.


it clearly implies that fourth and third density may co-exist on earth , after fourth density entities learn the ability to shield their density from that of third so i am curious which quotes made you think that third and fourth will not co-exist at the same time.

as for the length of fourth density i found this



questioner: how long is a cycle of experience in fourth density in our years?

ra: the cycle of experience is approximately 30 million of your years if the entities are not capable of being harvested sooner. there is in this density a harvest which is completely the function of the readiness of the social memory complex. it is not structured as is your own, for it deals with a more transparent distortion of the one infinite creator.


now the reason i am trying to get to the bottom of this is because it has great consequences to the prevailing theories about 2012.. there are generally two camps right now, one say there is a major disaster coming with only few survivors... the other camp says there will be ascension.

of what i can see according to the law of one channeling, both scenarios actually play out.. with the difference that noone 'survives' in 3d.. even though the majority repeat 3d elsewhere

[MarkM]

third density and fourth density earth actually represent two separate environments. much as two different radio stations on a radio band transmit separate programs, 3rd and 4th density earth represent two distinct frequencies of density.

if one looks at a planet such as venus as it presently exists in 3d, we see an apparently lifeless and barren planet. in other densities the same planet may well be teeming with abundant and diverse life.

in the case of earth for purposes of our discourse, the perception distortion of linear time suggests that 4d is something in the future, when it may perhaps more correctly be seen as co-existing with third now and forever. at any rate, 4d beings according to the ra material are apparently fully capable of lowering their vibratory status in order to be experienced by folks in 3rd density earth.

the reason for the need of fourth density folk to learn to prevent this from happening is in accord with the law of confusion, (to protect our free will to choose and evolve through first hand effort, based on our own previous independantly arrived at choices; i.e., no definitive, iron-clad 'revealed' info from beyond!!) and also because of 'electrical incompatibility' between the two beings which may cause grave harm to the 3rd density resident.

the total earth-sphere encompasses all seven energy bodies of density (as do humans) concurrently, if that temporal term doesn't throw you off. ;) the densities are distinct and separate, although there are varying degrees of experiential intercourse possible between certain densities - for example, 1st, 2nd and 3rd are not veiled from each other and seem to us to all exist in third density. in reality according to the law of one these three stages of life occupy distinct and separate densities of awareness/experiencing/evolution although they are able to interact.

in contrast, 3rd and 4th are experientially separated to the extent that physical interaction does not happen - even though 3rd may be observable by 4th, and 4th may be experiencable to varying degrees by 3rd through the intuitive faculty - which is in keeping with the law of confusion.

as for the two camps, in reality each entity has the innate ability to create its own reality. humans are fully invested with (sub sub) logoic status, which means in part that their creative potential is limitless and infinite. this ability exists even for the spiritually 'unawakened', albeit unknowingly, and as their personal biases are reflected in their outer condition, they create their reality - whether this is a reality of global cataclysm, of want, of fear and suffering or a reality of light, love, plenty, harmony and sharing - or anything in between.

i expect that every moment-to-moment choice made by a person, especially in these accelerating times, changes the universe in which they find themselves personally, effectively guiding them through an infinite and unending sequence of parallel possible/probable universes each with its own set of potential outcomes - such is perhaps the power of our creative potential.

according to my understanding, many whose choices have led them to having outgrown the need to exist in the range of possible universes which include a suffering 3d earth human population are nevertheless here of their own accord in order to help alleviate the darkness, and to help with the transition of the planet.

according to the 'course in miracles', the power of unconditional forgiveness has the potential to collapse the space/time experiential third density universes of the individual down to nothing - thus that individual's personal reality has transcended all need to experience further in the time-linear, cause and effect world and for them this 3rd density plane no longer necessarily serves as their 'home base' of experience. (the loo would phrase this as 'forgiveness stops the wheel of karma') this potentiality has existed for the individual always, since the beginning of our third density experience some 75,000 years ago.

so, really there are untold possible futures, and your own experience will truly be the one you create. my advice for those awakening souls who read this is to practice finding love and appreciation in and of every moment, and continuing training to replace the natural simian antagonistic impulse with the higher truth that setting foot on the road of acceptance, gratitude, and unconditional love of all outer conditions and entities - seeing that there is only one consciousness from which all manifests - represents the beginning of awakening to our power to better our own lot and as well, by necessity, the lot of others. to practice loving and appreciating one's own total experience for its ultimate teaching benefit is to spread that love to all, as all is one. mark

[riCo]

wow mark, what a nice post, you have a great understanding! :)

[Sam Womelsdorf]

fantastic. thank you!

[evolving]

as ra put it:
3d) the density of non-understanding (choice, veiled)
4d) the density of understanding (love)
5d) the density of light (wisdom)
6d) the density of the law of one (combining understanding/light)
7d) the density of foreverness (seeking o be one with the one infinite creator)

[j_stubler]

mark,

beautifully and articulately explained. thanks you!

[billybobbutterball]

as ra put it:
3d) the density of non-understanding (choice, veiled)
4d) the density of understanding (love)
5d) the density of light (wisdom)
6d) the density of the law of one (combining understanding/light)
7d) the density of foreverness (seeking o be one with the one infinite creator)

for what it is worth i have always had a problem with 5-d being associated with wisdom...which word to me semantically represents a particular wholesomeness -- which seems to me a perfected quality better associated with those famous descriptions of 6-d..

in contrast i rather think of 5-d as being a density of intellectual knowledge that yet lacks the guiding quality of wisdom -- which i think of as the product of the completed blending of understanding love and light.:cool:

question...can wisdom be thought of having degrees?...but to me that would verge on becoming an oxymoron -- it would be like claiming someone is only slightly pregnant.:p

???

can someone besides mark help me here?? (he has more pressing things to do)

billybobbaffled (just joshing, m):d

[MarkM]

okay, billybob, i've finally got some time on my hands! ;)

i kinda feel that wisdom is a gradually achieved reciprocation to love. new fresh love glorifies in the selfless sharing of love and strives without compunction to offer self to other self even at the expense of self.

it recoils in horror and a deep soul agony from the pain, oppression and fear felt by others and will often leap up without a moment's hesitation to stand fiercely against the other self's oppressors. it will sometimes be moved heroically to die on the altar of righteous defense of honour and devotion to the welfare of those viewed as being victimized.

the beginnings of the acquisition of wisdom woven into the fabric of love perhaps entails something of the long evolutionary process of becoming the law of one. the other self is on a journey which necessarily involves the whole range of experiencing, and this will include much pain and suffering. as this is largely unavoidable and necessary to the catalyzing towards growth, love learns that other selves are merely meeting themselves in all aspects of the game - truly it comes to be seen that it is all a game, and is all according to divine plan.

while love/wisdom sees and acknowleges pain and will act wherever possible to aid, alleviate and smooth the journeys of other self, it will be less likely to be consumed and depleted by devotion to waging specific battles for the sake of empathetic outrage towards perceived injustices, nor will it allow itself to be drained of life energy in unbalanced service to others. it may be more likely to allow life to unfold as it will - not without profound caring and helping, but with having gained an understanding of the way life operates as to the modem of evolution.

i personally can't see wisdom without the prior development of love, although i can certainly see love unchecked by wisdom.

i imagine that 4th density entails the development of love perhaps somewhat in the sense of finally becoming able to open one's self without reservation, indeed arriving at the point where one absolutely glorifies in becoming as transparent as possible and yet enjoying the absolute unconditional acceptance of other selves who reciprocate in openness and percieve the entirety of everything one is. loving to see and be seen in totality, the more the better - a foundation of total sharing which naturally breeds a profound harmony and direct total communication, as there is nothing to obscure or impede the merging of selves' energy centers into a wondrous swirling geometric and singular creation. what wonders can be wrought from this kind of harmonic and creative group potential i can't imagine. for me, this hints at the potentials of the social memory complex.

here, the fourth density being perceives the calling of those undergoing the trials of third density, and i would expect that the initial impulse of fourth is to gallantly move heaven and earth in order to sweep like a white tornado throughout third, intervening to pluck us all out of our miserable states and end all suffering forever... judging from what i feel is the purpose of the third density ordeal by fire, however, i doubt that this would be wise...:rolleyes:

wisdom in fifth density, which is also known as the density of light - perhaps this is a time of working with the big picture... towards beginning to apprehend the stunning majesty and perfection of the divine plan in general, and learning to devote in a balanced full-spectrum way to the ministration of the one consciousness as it creates and sustains all the infinite many parts. ministering to one and all with infinite patience, love and energetic and direct empathic understanding, and with faith in the glorious outcome of all experiencing regardless of temporal struggling, difficulty and sorrow. knowing that when seen against the infinite backdrop of creation, all are destined to glories and joys beyond imagination. mark, still steamed after burning dinner. (your fault, bill, as i was studying your post. :mad:)

[billybobbutterball]

no sweat about the dinner, mark. happy to provide some evening catalyst to help you along.

nice post. i will have to go over it several times. but that will have to wait until after dinner --don't want my blender to splash stuff around.

anyway, since understanding is not part of the 3rd density i would think that we can forget about wisdom occupying much power in that unenlightened state.

my problem is in trying to see 'wisdom' really fitting in with the 5th....if that is the case then where does that leave the 6th? sorta hanging around fiddling thumbs?

(maybe i've tried to add on more to my concept of 'wisdom' than it properly deserves.)

i found this on llresearch:

"fifth density is perhaps best described as extremely
white in vibration.

the sixth-density of a whiteness which contains a
golden quality as you would perceive it; these colors
having to do with the blending into wisdom of the
compassion learned in fourth-density, then in sixth
the blending of wisdom back into an unified
understanding of compassion viewed with wisdom.
this golden color is not of your spectrum but is
what you would call alive" hmmm.

so, from above, it seems that 5th density is being shortchanged...if wisdom requires intellectual knowledge for its maturity perhaps the 5th is where that intellectual aspect/ingredient is gathered.and then kicked upstairs to the 6th for processing as mentioned in the bit from ll research -- this concept, right or wrong, makes more sense to me at the moment.:cool:

or is it understood that the naked, "blending into wisdom of the compassion..." bit above from llr refers to the 5th? then i'm all wet.

if so, we seem to be faced with differing grades of "wisdom" under construction.

billious, wrestling with faulty thoughts...he gives up:confused:

[PKibler]

i have read quite a bit of the law of one but i can't find my answer i'm looking for:

by 2012 my children will be 5 and 7. i know that isn't long enough for them to have learned enough about our true purpose. i wanted to know, will my children go with me to the next density or will they stay?

what determines the age at which they will be held accountable for progression???:confused::confused::confused:

[dryadlover]

i have read quite a bit of the law of one but i can't find my answer i'm looking for:

by 2012 my children will be 5 and 7. i know that isn't long enough for them to have learned enough about our true purpose. i wanted to know, will my children go with me to the next density or will they stay?

what determines the age at which they will be held accountable for progression???:confused::confused::confused:

ask yourself a question: will they still be your children with the veil of forgetfulness lifted away from both sides, i.e. you/they know everything you/they know and you/they fully realize who you/they really are while at the same time inhabiting a different body of love/light?

try asking yourself another question. will these children still be your children while your soul inhabits a different body here on earth and is being a parent to different children and another soul inhabits your body instead and is being a parent to them?

if yes, then your children will always and forever be with you, for we are all children of one infinite creator.

if no, then your children will be with you as your children as long as the third density body/vehicle sustains their soul in space/time of third density.

[evolving]

i have read quite a bit of the law of one but i can't find my answer i'm looking for:

by 2012 my children will be 5 and 7. i know that isn't long enough for them to have learned enough about our true purpose. i wanted to know, will my children go with me to the next density or will they stay?

what determines the age at which they will be held accountable for progression???:confused::confused::confused:

all children born after the harmonic convergence (aug 16-17, 1987) are 4d ready. it is only if they collect karma and lose enough polarization will they become ineligible for harvest.

as for the age of polarization in the incarnate state:


questioner: as an entity in this density grows from childhood, he becomes more aware of his responsibilities. is there an age below which an entity is not responsible for his actions, or is he responsible from the time of his birth?

ra: i am ra. an entity incarnating upon the earth plane becomes conscious of self at a varying point in its time/space progress through the continuum. this may have a median, shall we say, of approximately fifteen of your months. some entities become conscious of self at a period closer to incarnation, some at a period farther from this event. in all cases responsibility becomes retroactive from that point backward in the continuum so that distortions are to be understood by the entity and dissolved as the entity learns.

[PKibler]

:)

thank your for the quick answers to my question. its been something thats been bothering me for quite some time.

i did however try to meditate over this questions, and i did get an awesome vision, but i it didn't seem like the answer, and the more and more i think about it, it probably was. heres my visions if your interested.

i saw myself as a perfect apple. the apple was eaten and thrown in the toilet. i saw it travel thru the toilet and end outside of a sewer pipe. in no time at all the apple grew up to be a huge and perfect apple tree with many different beautiful apples on it.

i thought it meant that i would evolve into from a lowley apple to a huge apple tree with more abilities. maybe it means even more than that. maybe someone has a better idea.

again thanks for the quick response. i hope and pray that everyone has a wonderful progression

- i give my love to all... paul

[faithinchange]

pkibler

most children will make the transition with ease and even come back to help teach of 4d and 5d

[GaryStop]

when 2012 comes around, i know that the harvest will be taking place. the separation of humanity into 3 streams:

1) service to others (4th density)

2) service to self (4th density)

3) haven't committed to any path (repeat 3rd density)

x) wanderers return home

my question is, who is in charge of the harvest? is it 6th density sto, 7th density logos (the oneness in charge of our galaxy), or is there a panel of sto and sts.

gary

[evolving]

the following quote explains the supervision of the harvest.


51.1 ra: there are those of three levels watching over harvest.

the first level is planetary and that which may be called angelic. this type of guardian includes the mind/body/spirit complex totality or higher self of an entity and those inner plane entities which have been attracted to this entity through its inner seeking.

the second class of those who ward this process are those of the confederation who have the honor/duty of standing in the small places at the edge of the steps of light/love so that those entities being harvested will not, no matter how confused or unable to make contact with their higher self, stumble and fall away for any reason other than the strength of the light. these confederation entities catch those who stumble and set them aright so that they may continue into the light.

the third group watching over this process is that group you call the guardians. this group is from the octave above our own and serves in this manner as light bringers. these guardians provide the precise emissions of light/love in exquisitely fastidious disseminations of discrimination so that the precise light/love vibration of each entity may be ascertained.

thus the harvest is automatic in that those harvested will respond according to that which is unchangeable during harvest. that is the violet ray emanation. however, these helpers are around to ensure a proper harvesting so that each entity may have the fullest opportunity to express its violet ray selfhood.