Sleep Paralysis and other Sleep Experiences [Archive]

rightside

02-08-2010, 07:13 PM

yes my friend, it happens to me often. not as often now as it used to between 1 and 2 years ago though.
i found it happened when i was over tired.

at first, naturally it scared the soul out me, it would start with my head feeling as if it were being squeezed in a vice to bursting point, but i was able to "jolt" myself out of it.

after reading up on it, i realised that the vice feeling was not a sign my head was going to burst and it posed no threat to me, so i chose to go with it when it happened again.

i am very glad i did. after a certain point i would literally slide into a lucid dream. i was completely aware i was dreaming and that i was experiencing sleep paralysis, so in my dream i tried to roll of my bed, and i did, i crashed to the floor. i then strained an eye open (in real life) and could see i was actually still on my bed. so, eye closed again, and i`m back on the floor.

so i stand up and walk about the room. it felt very odd, much the same feeling you get in a dream where you are trying to run, and for the life of you, can`t manage it, though, not quite as restricting.
i turned to the window, and leapt out of it and flew through the sky, simply by wishing it to be so.
i flew higher and higher, but eventually came back down, and that was when the sleep must have become too deep and it became a regular dream.

on another occasion when it happened, i didn`t realise i`d started dreaming, but was aware of the paralysis, i thought i had actually opened my eyes and rolled off the bed ( i hadn`t though) when i was lifted by the feet by an unseen entity and thrown around the room in a sustained and brutal manner.
i thought i was being killed by a demon, till i realised that would be silly and remembered i was experiencing sleep paralysis, so i stood up (in the dream) told the entity to get lost, strained my eyes open (real life) and found myself to be on my bed.

it`s very scary at first my friend, but with practice can be very interesting. i am able to manifest people in these dreams, and talk to them, so with practice (and i would recommend spiritual protection) it may be possible to talk to all sorts of interesting individuals.

all the best.

Golden One

02-08-2010, 08:39 PM

yeah, when i experienced this, its such an indescribable feeling. i had almost like a sinking feeling and i kept on trying to fight it. i almost felt as if i was going to get sucked out of this reality and into another realm. very weird feeling in that i could not move anything except i could feel that i was barely moving my index finger. i also could hear this constant noise, almost like a buzzing noise.

rightside

02-09-2010, 05:51 AM

well golden one, it takes nerves to do it, but i seriously recommend just going with it and checking out the real treasures to be found in sleep paralysis.

it is terrifying, sometimes painful, but these sensations aren`t a threat.

in my honest opinion, sleep paralysis, is a gift. but first you have to conquer the fear it that accompanies it.

best,
rightside

WhatsUpJulieB

02-09-2010, 06:34 AM

dear golden one,

ten years ago i suffered a traumatic brain injury. this resulted in damaging an area of the brain called the sleep center. the sleep centers job is to regulate our sleep and one of the things that it does is cause the body to temporarily be paralyzed when we go into deep sleep rem (rapid eye movement). this is necessary because when we dream of fighting for example, we could hurt ourselves or someone sleeping next to us if we able to move our arms and legs. in a normal person they will not be able to move while in rem.

one night after my head injury i dreamed that a demon was licking my face. i began to fight him and i woke up and found myself kicking and hitting my husband who amazingly was still asleep.

i had a sleep study done and they placed me on a dopamine drug used for patients with parkinsons diease.

i took the drug for two years and then i stopped. sometimes if something wakes me up while i am in rem, i feel like i am on a tranquilizer for about 20 minutes.

so don't worry this is normal. if you keep experienceing this it might mean that your sleep is fragmented and you may have a sleep disorder. these can be treated fairly easily these days. if you find yourself tossing and turning a lot at night and waking up in rem stage (the dream stage) then you may want to check it out with your family doctor. if you don't get all four stages of sleep at night, it can affect your heart and cause high blood pressure. so don't panic, just keep a log of your sleeping habits for about a week and then go from there.

starfish

02-14-2010, 09:27 AM

i have had this happen to me many times now. i have just fallen asleep or so to speak. i am consciously aware of my surroundings as if i am still awake, but my physical body is paralyzed. i have this terrifying feeling inside me of tremendous fear of what is out there. sometimes i feel intense pressure heavily pushing down on me. sometimes i can feel distinct areas of my spine vibrating starting down near the bottom and moving up one by one and others it is just one very strong vibration. i know i am very close to venturing out of my body but i am afraid for some reason. i am so afraid that i attempt to yell for help, but i cannot speak. this very intense feeling goes on for a few minutes ultimately ending in me waking up sweating and in a state of shock.

has anyone else had this experience? do you have any suggestions on how to release my fears and travel out of body?

i recently have had dreams where i am flying, floating and levitating. however it is in my dreams. i know this vibrating experience is distinctly different. the dreams of levitating are a sensational experience for me and i love them every time i have them. however, i really want the experience of actually floating out of my body while i am conscious.

one more note: the other night i had the paralysis state where i got an intense vibrational feeling throughout my body followed by a sense that i was actually physically levitating above my bed. i felt like it was a ship beginning to beam me up. it happened 3 consecutive times within a 3 or 4 min period yet i could not fully get outside of my body.

is there something i should know about how to fully get out? is there something holding me back?

Golden One

02-14-2010, 12:41 PM

i found these videos to be very helpful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzajw3czhak

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn4nuwjsen8
:)

starfish

02-15-2010, 08:03 PM

thank you my friend....i will see you on the flip side

namaste

mawk109

02-16-2010, 05:24 PM

hi all and one,

i experienced sleep paralysis many times when i first started exploring different levels of consciousness in a practical way some 10 years ago. from my experience i believe sleep paralysis occurs when your energetic body detaches from your physical body. initially, like many of the posters here, i was consumed with fear. i also experienced the feeling of being watched, pressure on my physical body, and intense vibration changes.

however, i was trying to instigate obe (out of body) experiences by implementing various meditation techniques. if you look in the old forum archives i put quite a few posts on these experiences. it is my view that the energetic body is essentially the mind and once it leaves the physical body the physical body becomes basically inert, while at some level the anatomical nervous system (ie. heart rate, breathing) is monitored. during sleep paralysis the energetic body might not be completely detached and hence you get the feeling of being observed. i have also got the sense of bi-location, where i was aware of tactile sensation on my physical body while lying on my bed, but my energetic body was giving me visual information from outside my house! interestingly, some of the information i received visually i was unaware of and was later able to confirm it in my normal physical state.

some of the physical sensations can be understood if you have a little knowledge on how the energetic aspects of your body work. first, the pressure on your body can occur when your chakras become more active. this activity can also lead to the vibrations that you feel as well as a sense of warmth. the chakras generally need to be stimulated in order to achieve the separation of the physical and energetic bodies. however, under high trauma this can happen too. theoretically i have a basis for this given my academic view on how the wave patterns relate to the mind and its various cognitive and sensory modes, but i won’t address this here.

so the key lessons if you are just starting to experience this are 1. get on top of your fear and emotions generally, 2. if you want to break out of the paralysis concentrate on moving a finger or toe, 3. if you want to develop it work on stimulating your chakras more. it is also important to focus your intent in a positive fashion. i always ask for assistance from my higher self so that i may serve to my highest positive potential. it is part of what the buddhist would call addressing selflessness.

for those who are little further down the road, robert monroe (journeys out of the body; monroe institute, et cetera) believed that flying dreams were symbolic of obes, i agree with this view. it is my experience that obes are just the beginning and that it is possible to tap into vibrations much finer than just the obe vibration. these higher or finer vibrations enable you to tap into such things as the probability vortexes that david w mentions among other things. if you record your dreams also make a note of how you feel energetically, you will learn a lot about yourself by doing this:-)

sorry this was much longer than i planned. i hope it is of use to some. best get back to writing my thesis.

yours in service,

mawk

Charles

02-20-2010, 04:14 PM

it happened to me a long long time ago, senior in college so i guess i was 20 or 21.

i woke up and couldn't move, and i panicked and struggled. it felt like i was being held down by something at my shoulders. also my eyes were opened but i was blind, everything was just black. this lasted at least a minute, maybe two, but then i realized that i was not in pain . . . and i remembered that i was living in a haunted house . . . so i just relaxed and stopped the struggle.

immediately i could see the light coming through the windows, and i sat up.

until now, i just assumed it was one of the ghosts . . and it could have been . . . but fun and fascinating possibilities are opening.

Cynthia II

02-20-2010, 09:26 PM

i have sleep seizures - when waking up, all my muscles are contracted and i can't move. is that what you mean by sleep paralysis? i also feel waves of movement coming from my spine so i sort of shiver or shake. this has happened for years. i used to think it was associated with allergies, then vitamin deficiency, but now, it feels like this has to do with my changing dna.

billybobbutterball

04-02-2010, 06:59 PM

hi, everyone!

in a couple of dolores cannon's age regression sessions a question coming
up was that of one feeling paralyzed and unable to move for some interval of time.:eek:

the answer from the higher selves was that the paralysis was simply because the
subject had an out of body experience (o.b.e.) and had not yet nested back into
the physical body.:cool:

sounds reasonable to me. billybobbutterball

(unofficial advice) if unable to move just relax and sing to oneself,,,going home, coming home....etc. ;)

Deambor

04-02-2010, 08:55 PM

hi cynthia.

it only happened once to me but very stringly during one windy night. i woke up and opened my eye and could see as usual, but couldn;t move while the waves of elictrical-like energy were going up my body from feet to head.

that was pretty scary i have to say, mostly because i couldn't control it.
because i perceved it as scary, and i didn't know what to doi and what it was (good thing/bad thing?), i started to pray, basically - the only thing left to do. not that i know any prayer, but i was asking god to help me in all honesty. stupid probably, but i did that.

the waves started to subside gradualy, any subsequent wave not as powerful as the initial few ones.
so in a few minutes it stopped, i remained laying in bed and soon fell asleep like nothing happened.
woke up in the morning like nothing happened.

somewhere in the middle of the experience i started to tell myself that it was a good experience, maybe a healing energy of some sort. still don't know what it was. but, i started to research the topic and the closests thing that comes to it is kundalini. according to descriptions of it - that's what it felt like.

now, if it was some dna modification, i probably stopped it with my fear. so i'm probably only partily modified:) (that explains a lot)

CriticalMass

04-03-2010, 05:56 PM

that used to happen to me quite often. i guess you'd say during the time i was going through the process of being more 'aware' for lack of a better word. i found for myself i was astral traveling, and not really very good at re entry when i came back. a few other weird things would happen like i would 'wake' up with my eye open during this time and find myself staring not at the ceiling but in what appeared to be other dimensions. or there would be weird creepy crawler red feelers floating around the room. the last occurence i had was about a year ago. this involved nastly intruders who were messing around with me as i was doing lucid dreaming. i awoke, frozen, to find someone in the room with me as a real physical presence. i was not happy...lol. but ... that's when i found out that whatever ugliness that lives in the universe and uses alternate planes of reality to influence us are really more scared of us than we realized. . not sure if this helps at all.i've found 'most' of the time sleep paralysis is due to astral traveling, we wake up before we are fully back into the body but there are other instances with other causes.

has anyone had this happen to them? it's already happened to me twice in the last year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sleep_paralysis

aqcheryl

04-04-2010, 07:26 AM

i was just listening to a show on coast to coast and the guest was graham hancock. a caller asked him about this... and ill get back to this later in the response but first i also want to say that this is a discussion going on on a paranormal forum im on.

alot of people report a feeling of heaviness on their chest, and seeing shadows, and they feel like something is holding them down or such. in the paranormal field, this is really treated as a medical thing and kind of overlooked. but i dont think its that simple as a biological thing.

here is what graham said:

sleep paralysis is one of those liminal(this is what it sounds like he says - i think he was shortening it from subliminal) states.. its one of those states betwixt and between where... it occurs when you are at the edge of sleep and waking. hypnogogic sleep its called. it is an altered state of consciousness, and in that altered state of consciousness - we can indeed separate from the body. the consciousness can leave the body, and can move out into other realms and other worlds and i believe past times and other parts of this physical world as well. some people call that astral projection, i call that out of body but i believe thats the same thing.

i agree with him but to further this, i want to expound on a few things. it is said frequently that what we dream, that state, is the true reality. not while we are awake - because we are so shielded from consciousness by the physical density. it is also said that the majority of us actually leave our bodies without knowing it, while traversing this dream world. for example we all astral or obe just most of us are not lucid of it.

when we start to physically awaken, there is that period of time where i believe the dream state overlaps with the physical reality. this would explain why your conscious mind sees shadows for the most part. however in our dream state we can also tear the veil between worlds, realities and universes; and if someone truly does have a haunting in their home - in this state their physical mind can still see into it before they fully awaken.

finally i personally believe that the feeling of heaviness in the chest and not able to move is because your spirit has not fully rejoined your body. in this period of your time you are traveling back or merging with your body but the process isnt complete. for this, you start to feel the physical even though you dont have full control of it yet. some people are light sleepers, some are heavy. for example some people can awaken instantly and be in tune with their body... others it takes them at least a good hour to get their 'motor' going... i do suspect that maybe the majority of those who experience hypnogogic sleep are in a period in their lives that they fall in the group of slow to get their motor running upon awaking.

there seems to be a link between sleep, and the higher realms of consciousness that i would believe those who sleep more (and this seems to be happening alot the closer we get to 2012, more people sleeping alot longer or more frequently) - who are slow to awaken, are less tied to their physical density.

these are just my guesses and theories based on research ive done so i could be way off base i know... but i wanted to toss this out there, i think its plausible.

if it is then it could perhaps provide enough understanding of what exactly is going on that you can eliminate the fear and let the process take its course. dont fight it, let your body and soul merge together. and on that note, be mindful what it is thats causing it because sleep paralysis can also be caused by physical conditions that need to be looked at. i think only we ourselves can fully know the answer, and if you dont know i would suggest keeping a journal of what you dream and see and feel as you are coming out of it. in the dream state your higher self may be telling you theres something wrong, or theres nothing wrong and you can just tell. :d

aqcheryl

04-04-2010, 07:40 AM

now that i think on this, i realize i have astral'ed or had an obe after all...

..for at least a year to a year and a half after i left my old job, i had many waking dreams where i - lol - was literally getting up to go to work. a couple of times i made it to work - no one recognized me there. i saw the layout of the desks were all moved too... everything was different. then id wake up and realize it wasnt real.

and there have been a few times that i did this, then woke up realized it was a dream and thankful i woke up in time to not miss work... lol and the cycle repeated again. until i woke up and remembered im not late for work and i dont have to call out rofl

_X_

04-04-2010, 10:19 PM

sleep paralysis is your body's way of making sure you don't do something stupid in your sleep...

not always 100% fool proof, but from what i understand, as you get into sleep mode, your body will ask your brain if it's still awake. when the body ascertains that the brain is asleep, it will lock up shop until it returns... if you've ever lain in bed with your eyes and body very still and resist the urge to roll over (how your body figures out if your brain is still awake), it will kick in a little...

that spooky stuff you see before going under is generally what's called "the guardian on the threshold". there's a lot of stuff about confronting the shadow on the site... smother it with love!

if you ever feel like you need to get out of it, the one thing you can do is start breathing deeply and erratically, as if you are trying to physically shake yourself out of it by using the force of your lungs. the reason why you can't move your limbs is because those are voluntary and are on lock down, but breathing is both voluntary and involuntary.

hope that helps

maurokren

08-19-2010, 03:46 PM

Jeia Ra Manuk

07-14-2011, 10:38 AM

there is insomnia and then there are all other sleep problems we don't hear about everyday.

a couple of years back i watched a show about the "other" sleep disorders. it was mostly about the disorder where people fall asleep all the time and sleep paralysis.

at first i felt like i can somewhat relate to sleep paralysis, but due to the subjective experience of the girl that was interviewed in this documentary, i thought that this isn't the case for me.

yesterday, out of the blue, i decided to look up sleeping disorders. i ended up on the wiki page for sleep paralysis (plz look it up if you'd like). the objective description of the disorder fully fits my profile.

it started around the time of my parents’ divorce (almost 5 years ago). i might have had earlier episodes, but i don't remember them.

here are some of the thought causes of the paralysis

sleeping in a face upwards or supine position
increased stress
sudden environmental/lifestyle changes
a lucid dream that immediately precedes the episode.
excessive consumption of alcohol coupled with lack of adequate sleep
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sleep_paralysis

when the paralysis occurs with me i am always in a face upwards position. stress obviously relates because i see horrible things. lifestyle changes, maybe. i did have a couple of really bad episodes when i was pregnant. and lucid dreaming... i can't really remember the dreams i have before the episode because of the intensity of the episode itself. i do though sometimes able to overpower myself and come out of my body via astral projection. the last cause is surely not my style :cool:

anyways the episodes occur like this: i wake up, see the room as it is. everything so real, i think i am just having a super realistic dream. i can't move, not even my eyes (sometimes barely). this causes panic right away. due to my neuralgia situation this is very dangerous. usually i see a family member coming into the room. and then something really scary happens. like one time, my mother set down on the bed and then tried to eat me. i can’t speak, i try to scream but it is impossible. my mother reported the same ‘dreams’ where she can’t move, nor speak.

why is it important for me to know i have sleep paralysis? well, because using this i can categorize what was an episode and what was real. on the wiki page, it says that these episodes might explain alien or ghost visitation. the last time i saw a ghost in my room i was able to rub my eyes, so i know i wasn’t sleeping. when a ufo landed outside of a house i was in, i was able to spring up in bed. also now i know when i am actually astral traveling in a dream. if i can move around my room and nothing scary jumps out, then i am astral projecting. if on the other hand, i can move but there is still some sort of story line going on (still in my room but events are occurring) i know that it is a lucid dream or if i am not in control of my movement then it is a normal dream. btw, i often have ‘rubber legs’ in dreams, as in i can barely move my legs. or sometimes i can’t look up and have to walk around in my dream staring at the floor.

anyone with similar experience? did anyone ever see something in their bedroom that should be there yet you could not move a muscle? this can surely explain a lot of demonic visitation. people usually say that they could not move when they saw a demon in the corner of their room or something like that. for my mom the story is usually the same. someone comes floating through the window and then tries to chock her. one thing is to disregard this as sleep paralysis. the other way, the force that was there paralysed her. one time, i awoke to find a huge imprint of a hand on my stomach. kind of scared the s*** out of me.
reality is sure hard to define.

love and light and love,
et

Jeia Ra Manuk

07-14-2011, 10:00 PM

hi ... well ive been around here before

but now i need some help ... i dont want people to make jokes or anything

ok ... this happened for about 4 times already and its freaking scary...

about a year ago at night i went to sleep on the sofa ... but i couldnt ... when i was about to sleep ... ive got freezed ... i couldnt move ... i could move my eyes , breath and think ... and my head was like a big loud sound zzzzzzz , i feel something on my chest and feel like my lower body get chills

now... 2 nights ago ... it happened the same ... but i could stop it ... and then do it voluntary ... i just close my eyes... and when i hear that sound in silence ( that every1 has ) i concentrate on it ... and it breath slowly and its like i let my eyes rest and i go into that state or something ...

i dont know what to do because my mother had an aneurysm and didnt die but when i start hearing that big sound on my center of the breain i get really scared and i think the same is going to happen

i wanted to recieve some tips or help... or if any1 experienced the same recently...

thanks in advance ...

hey friend,
you have the other side of the same problem. the episodes happen to you before the mind is able to fully shut down. just like we can learn to control the episodes we have when we awake, the same way we can control the situation when we are falling asleep. you just have to tell yourself: you are in between two states of mind... kind of stuck in limbo. it's not really long, even though time might seem to slow down. it is over once your mind can fall asleep or your body, wake up.

love and light and love,
et

aleatory

08-03-2011, 08:21 PM

happened to me once this year during a heightened awareness state.

chrisssj2

08-11-2011, 06:08 AM

Jeia Ra Manuk

08-11-2011, 12:17 PM

i had this often when i was a kid some 10+ years ago. but only when awakening.. i was scared and almost hallucinating. i was like i can't wake up i can't wake up! please mommy wake me up!

did not even know it had a name untill now.. any significance to it?

i didn't know either till a month or so ago. for me the biggest significance in this is that i can tell when i am astral projecting and when i am in paralysis. and then i feel better and can relax knowing that whatever is out there can't touch my astral body because it is still inside. you don't usually see these types of things when you are astral projecting. only if you think them up.

love,
ra ma

HotStoneHut

01-05-2012, 10:58 PM

hi, i sometimes get a very loud "zap" in my brain when i am falling asleep or asleep. it freaks me right out because it is so shocking and almost violent, and there is a vivid sense of presence inside my head. the presence feels foreign (not me) and i get very scared.

when i read david's work about the pineal gland activating, i thought maybe it could be related, although it doesn't sound like a buzz. definately a zap.

i googled it, and found that people who are getting off anti-depressants experience brain zapping, even during the day!

i thought it was aliens invading my consciousness :) becasue it was so scary and right inside my head. but since i've started researching it about a month ago, i haven't had it come back. fingers crossed!

anyone else have any similar experiences?

cameronjcw

01-06-2012, 09:31 PM

i was just thinking about the pineal gland yesterday kind of in relation to this and because of me having a lot of weird hallucinations and stuff over the year.

this has probably been mentioned somewhere before many times but i was thinking that probably the reason for being able to connect with spirits or other entities from different dimensions when its dark is because thats when the pineal gland is more likely to be activated and obviously meditating or similar bodily experiences can increase this and of course if some people dont have their pineal gland able to be activated for whatever reason then you would expect this to explain why some people can connect with entities from other densities and some cant and also by the same token as david mentions in the source field investigations that people with their pineal gland stuck on would probably end up experiencing hallucinations in daytime as well as night because of this or maybe those hallucinations are just them connecting with other entities from other densities and also allow negative entities to take hold probably because someone with schizophrenia would maybe be so freaked out by this that it may further allow negative entities to take hold resulting in them maybe hearing voices telling them to do things to harm themselves or others and also bascially be constantly tapped into other densiteis. i would imagine this would be pretty traumatic in itself and basically create a vicious cycle. of course if medication stopped the persons pineal gland from being activated by doping them up then this may halt the hallucinations!!

i was thinking about this because i have had many experiences over the years that when i think back now do seem very much like possible visions or connecting to other densities! i have had audio hallucinations which are like someone shouting really loud in my ear but i cant ever tell when it is and i also hear sounds like someone talking in the background but again not voices as in anybody telling me to do anything just more like someone trying to get my attention, then i have had visual hallucinations, mostly spiders and shadows occasionally, feeling things as if someone is touching me or sitting down beside me and also smells of things that arent there. i have been on a lot of pain medication the last couple of years which may well account for an increase in this but it goes way way back before i was ever on any kind of pain medication or any triptans etc also they all happen when i am falling asleep or in an altered state like meditating and its always when i am in a dark room or all light is shielded from my eyes which may mean that my pineal gland is activated and is picking up on something that is there trying to communicate.

sort of also makes you think that yeah maybe it would be more possible for people to be able to connect with spirits or other entities if they were in a dark room or at night when it is dark which is when you are most likely to have your pineal gland activated making it possible to connect with other entities

just some stuff i was thnking about it, feel free to move to a more appropriate thread it was just when i seen the last post on here i thought it seemed somewhat more relevant here!??

vilst3r

01-16-2012, 09:50 PM

just experienced this few days ago, and really scared the hell out of me. while being awake in this state of paralysis, i couldn't move, scream or even close my eyes because my eyes would eventually start twitching because i was in rem stage (rapid eye movement) and i also had that feeling of what most people describe as some invisible entity holding onto you. from my experience, it'd mostly likely happen when i'd wake up at 3 a.m in the morning and drifting back to sleep but you'd somehow feel conscious while your asleep before the effects kick in.

MarkM

01-17-2012, 12:14 AM

i know exactly how you feel and have experienced this to a continuing degree, strong and total physical paralysis while asleep and yet apparantly awake in the face of something overtly unwelcome and horribly cloying yet as lucidly real as the day is bright - sometimes layers upon layers of thinking i am awake, but not, as it turns out. i find that a conscious affirmation and intent to be protected works wonders, before laying myself down to sleep.

one time i awoke and turned to and awoke my loved one and shared my unctious feelings of the just passed moment of sleep paralysis, only to have turned over and found that it was just another episode layer... she was not in my bed at all. a very lonely feeling, overwhelming.

i feel it's a function of my experiences and as yet unresolved fears amassed over my life, rather than an external visitation - an internal facing of that which i haven't properly faced in waking life. i think i know what i haven't been brave enough to face. need to get back to the place where i was able to have a complete experience out of body, and know what was happening so as to soar! fear prevents that. mark

cloud9

01-18-2012, 08:04 PM

hi,

i'm wondering if anyone has any opinions on how to interpret false awakenings? this happens quite often to me, where i thought i woke up, but it turns out i'm still dreaming. sometimes i would have a dream within a dream within a dream.

here's a funny example of a lucid dream with false awakening:

i'm sitting in my kitchen table eating breakfast with my family. then i said to everyone "we're in a dream right now," and i suddenly became lucid. i throw my food and slammed the table against the wall. i tell my family, "i can do that because i'm dreaming." then i run out to my back yard and fly up to a tree. i'm doing qigong on a tree branch, but i keep floating up. i decide to jump off the tree and do qigong on the ground. as i land, my vision starts to fade and i wake up. i'm now in bed, and i walk out to the kitchen to get breakfast. i see the kitchen table flipped over, and my family is cleaning up the mess. i wonder to myself, "wtf? i thought it was just a dream." then i wake up again.

false awakenings usually happens when i'm in a lucid dream. but i also have many regular dreams where i wake up and write in my dream journal, only to find i'm still dreaming (the words i write keep changing or the journal is different somehow).

speaking of qigong... every time i practice qigong in a lucid dream, i end up floating upwards. i've tried it over 10 times, and every time i can't stay grounded. i told my friend to try, and he reported the same thing. anyone else have this experience? anyone have any explanations?

thanks!

vilst3r

01-26-2012, 05:38 PM

Hmm, recently I've noticed to my attention that when I close my eyes and attempt to fall asleep, I'd get these random images of people's faces or sometimes animals. It's kind of like a slideshow, faces of random people that I've never met start showing up in my minds eye. From this experience I'm probably suggesting that the pineal gland starts to shoot up and the mind begins seeking through the astral realm to begin contact with the higher self which is dreamwork. Hmm was wondering if anyone else had the same experience?

cloud9

01-27-2012, 12:33 PM

Yes I've had that experience before. Usually happens when I'm really tired and just lying down to rest, not really intending to sleep. Scenes would flash in my eyes, kinda dream-like but more like a quick slideshow. Sometimes I can see through my closed eyelids and look around the room, and I am aware of everything around me, like people's conversations.

loveis8hertz

02-06-2012, 02:29 AM

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If you ever experienced 'sleep paralysis', you can easily get out of your body from here and have an Out Of Body Experience:
This has worked for me: Calm yourself, have no fear, feel a strong desire to move out of your body, and visualise a 'light copy of your body' (astral body) rising out/ rolling out, and simply allow it.

All these methods: Lucid Dreaming, Out Of Body Experiences and Phasing
enables you to experience other realities, dimensions, parallel universes (whatever metaphor you want to use here)
which feel just as real as your present 'awake physical reality', except your thoughts are manifested instantly.
You never cease to be because we all exist in a continuum of consciousness.

The experienced astral explorer will tell you that you are not really in your body in any reality, be it physical or semi-physical.
There is no real solidity in any reality. Reality is a perceptual construct; maya, an illusion.

During your awake physical reality, you are really projecting your consciousness into your 'perceived' body.
This illusion that you are in your body is dissolved during 'phasing'.

I usually suggest people try OOBE because after a few times, there will be no doubts in one's mind that you just did not 'fall asleep'
and imagined it.
The 'frame of reference' before you felt you got 'out of your body' continued from exactly what and where you were doing/being/located
in physical reality; sense of continuity. In the OOBE state, you can be just as aware as you are sitting in front of your computer reading my post;
some people aren't because they lack practise.

Like with all abilities, with more practise and intention,
you can improve your degree of awareness, control, clarity and recall of experiences in:
Lucid Dreaming, Out Of Body Experiences and Phasing

What is a Dream?
Many civilisations describe life being a dream, 'Maya' an illusion.
* The Australian Aboriginal people believe in 'Dream-Time Creation'
* The Hindu God 'Brahma' dreamed up the creation of the universe.

There is currently an evolutionary move where the understanding between Science & Spirutulism are complementary.
Quantum Physics is proposing the theory of Holographic 'dreaming' multiverses upon discovering that there is no solid stuff
and no real separation between anything in physical reality (Double-Slit Experiment - Observer chooses the outcome).
Everything is entangled in nergy fields of information. ALL IS ONE.
Plant Primary Perceptions (Cleve Backster), Water Crystals and consciousness (Dr Masaru Emoto),
Epigenetics - Biology of Beliefs & energy healing (Bruce Lipton)
and more areas are supporting the discovery that 'ALL IS ENERGY. ALL IS CONSCIOUSNESS.'

Dreams can be grouped into 2 main categories:
1- Lucid Dream: vivid experiences, engagement of all, most, or more of your senses, feels real.
2- Non-Lucid Dream: dull experience, little engagement of your senses, does not feel so real.

However, lucid dreaming is similar to OOBE, but has no frame of reference.
We all experience different realities, dimensions because we are consciousness, another metaphor, spiritual beings.
When we are not focused on this 'perceived' waking physical reality, we allow ourselves to experience other realities in our sleep,
or in meditative states of consciousness. Some people just don't have good recall of their dreams, or they dismiss the significance of dreams.

Phasing, is a method that while fully awake, you can just withdraw your senses,
and let your attention be drawn into your own mindscape.
You do not need to achieve the 'Mind Awake, Body Asleep' state of OOBE ; some people find this easier to do.
After sucessfully achieving phasing, you know that you are indeed not in your body, because upon allowing your attention to be drawn into another reality,
you will be experiencing it, with real body sensations. Here, the physical rules may be less limiting eg. you can fly and teleport yourself at will etc.
You can meet people, have discusiions etc just like physical reality. Perhaps you experience another body expression with different abilities.

* To learn more about Frank Kepple PHASING & Model Of The WIDER REALITY MODEL
http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

subtledawn

05-05-2012, 02:21 PM

I often have dreams of suffocating where upon the moment of my death I wake, but for the period of time I am suffocating I am trying to call for help but can't move from lack of oxygen. I know I tend to forget to breathe when I'm awake so I figure I must have sleep apnea.

However one time I had a very strange experience while reading a book called "Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell" about a mythical faerie called 'the raven king'. In this dream I dreamed that I woke up and was lying in bed, but I was paralyzed. Meanwhile my front door was wide open and a strange man in black was searching my house for something. The whole time I had this dream I was trying to call for help but I couldn't, and suddenly the man realized I was awake, and left the house (closing the door behind him). As soon as he left I was able to move and got up to check that the door was shut, the weird thing is I never really woke up which leads me to believe I was awake the whole time.
I was convinced that the man who came in was the mythical faerie in the book I was reading (there are real myths about The Raven King in england) and that he had put a paralysis spell on me that faded when he left.

The other dream I had that led to paralysis was this:
I dreamed I was walking down a street lined with houses. I became drawn toward one house in particular, but as I began to approach the house I had a bad feeling about it that I should not go in the house. No matter how much I didn't want to go in the house though, I couldn't stop myself from going forward. Upon entering the house I was forced to walk down the stairs into the basement, even though mentally I was fighting my legs every step of the way. As I reached the bottom of the stairs I felt myself stepping through a black cloud that I knew was some kind of spiritual entity. As I passed through the blackness I felt the creature attach itself to me. I fell to the floor and began suffocating as the entity began feeding off my energy. I tried to call for help but I couldn't speak. I saw the creature hovering over me, it was black tinged with purple and had tentacle like things sticking out all around it which it used to latch onto me. I had the feeling it would suck my energy until not only my physical body died, but my soul as well. At this point my partner actually woke me up because he said I was making gasping sounds in my sleep for some time and it didn't appear to be stopping. Boy am I glad he did.