Complex synchronicity

[Crasher2ooo@...]

hi group...

just had an interesting synchronicity that was more complex than the usual
digital time synch's.

i was just browsing through rense.com and came across an article 'why we fear
ourselves more than killer asteroids' as i was about half way through the
article that aerosmith song from the film armageddon came on the radio, i
then glanced at the clock and it read 12:21 (i get this one quite alot)...
quite a funny little synch, made me chuckle to myself... hope the message
isn't as obvious as it looks!

robin.

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<font face="arial,helvetica"><font color="#ff0080" size="2" family="sansserif" face="verdana" lang="0">i rely on synchronicities. they bring me all kinds of joy. i make a practice of thanking god everytime one presents itself. for me it is proof that i am divinely assisted in all that i undertake.

blessings,

gayle</font>

[jm11_11]

--- in asc2k@y..., crasher2ooo@a... wrote:
> hi group...
>
> just had an interesting synchronicity that was more complex than
the usual digital time synch's... quite a funny little synch, made me
chuckle to myself... hope the message isn't as obvious as it looks!
>

i just have a question for the group. what are people's opinions of
coincidences and synchroniticies? for example, robin, in this letter
you say you've had many time syncs and this one seemed to really
catch your attention and make you wonder, but then you seem to just
laugh it off.

what do the rest of you think? do you think there is more to
coincidence than meets the eye?


juli

[tbivans]

>
> what do the rest of you think? do you think there is more to
> coincidence than meets the eye?
>
>
> juli

juli,
what i've discovered through my personal reading and
experience that there is truly no such thing as coincidence.
there is purpose in everything. now, what these synchronicities
mean to the individual may be a little hard to decipher. i think
this discernment can only come through experience and only
after the realization that coincidences don't exist.

tcb

[Jeremy Weiland]

> i just have a question for the group. what are
> people's opinions of coincidences and
> synchroniticies? for example, robin, in this letter
> you say you've had many time syncs and this one
> seemed to really catch your attention and make you
> wonder, but then you seem to just laugh it off.
> what do the rest of you think? do you think there is
> more to
> coincidence than meets the eye?

well, if there is more to it than meets the eye, i
would think that that understanding comes from within;
it is quite difficult to impress on somebody from
without.

my experience with "synchronicities", time-syncs in
particular, is that they often happen at a particular
time when i need a positive reinforcer, like if i'm at
a crossroads and i need to be reminded of a broader
view than i may be seeing in the expediency of the
moment. i've also heard that syncs can be triggers to
awake within wanderers the internal understanding of
their mission.

a sync is a very subjective event. for me, it is a
type of communication. i can't speak to it's meaning
for other people, though. and syncs have caused me to
laugh before, just out of their sheer perfect timing.
i mean, we live in a world where these kind of things
aren't supposed to happen; the fact that they do can
seem absurd if you really think about it. and yet,
there are the numbers, staring at you.

jeremy

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[Crasher2ooo@...]

as far as im concerned there is no coincidence! coincidence means a series of
random events that by chance have a specific connection... i believe that
there is no 'chance', that the 'chance' is in fact divinely planned for a
specific reason.

i find these synchronicites humorous because its the divines little way of
saying 'hello... pay attention!' or at leats thats my interpretation of them.

[Chamil1950@...]

> thanks for your comments about coincidence!

ok then, if coincidence is communication (and i agree by the way), then the next
questions would be... who is doing it?
> juli
hi juli,
i believe that it is your higher self giving the messages, and it knows much
better than the conscious self of what is going on. whether or not the
synchronicities are propitious or require action on the individual's part? i
think that is an individual interpretation, just like dreams. get to know what
synchrinicities you are consistently experiencing and you will have your answers
of whether you act on them or not. chris
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[Crasher2ooo@...]

hi juli...

im in a bit of a hurry here... gotta get finished up at work then im off on
my easter bank holiday... see jeremy's post, couldnt have said it better
myself!

haha... one thing to add, i am a he! i know robin can be a girls name in us
but as far as i know its always a boys name here in uk.

cath up with you all next wee... have a good easter all!!

p.s. cheers for saving me some time there jeremy... your distortions are so
in line with my own it really is a joy to read your posts.

[jm11_11]

thanks for your comments about coincidence!

mark and robin, you say there is no such thing as coincidence, and
jeremy and gayle and robin, you say it is communication.

ok then, if coincidence is communication (and i agree by the way),
then the next questions would be... who is doing it? how are they
doing it? and why are they doing it? (gayle and robin believe it is
god/divine. me too.)

also, do you think coincidence is more than communication? for
example, in robin's example, what made her? (i'm sorry, robin, i
don't know if you are a girl or guy!) "come across" that article on
asteroids at that exact time? how did that aerosmith song come on at
that exact time? what made her glance at the clock at that exact
time? and why was it 12:21? (december 21, 2012?)

i know you don't know the answers to these questions, but it sure
makes you wonder how they organize and do all this, doesn't it?

and about the why?... if we believe that coincidence might actually
be communication ("hello... pay attention!"), do you think that we
should be taking it more seriously? for example, in robin's example,
do you think that she is actually being warned about something so
that we can maybe do something about it? (i too have
had "coincidences" relating to asteroids and this date. in fact, my
first post to this group was at 12:21 which i didn't notice at the
time but commented on in a later post.)


what do you guys think (about the who, how, and why? and if we should
be doing something, and if so, what could we do?)


juli

[Jeremy Weiland]

> mark and robin, you say there is no such thing as
> coincidence, and
> jeremy and gayle and robin, you say it is
> communication.

i, too, believe that we exist in an infinitely
conscious universe in which everything conforms to a
pattern. i don't believe in coincidences; all things
happen for a reason. however, i meant that numeric
syncs tend to imply, for me, a trigger or wake-up
call, and often they have a specific meaning for a
decision i am making.

> ok then, if coincidence is communication (and i
> agree by the way),
> then the next questions would be... who is doing it?
> how are they
> doing it? and why are they doing it? (gayle and
> robin believe it is
> god/divine. me too.)

well, i guess whatever your highest concept of
divinity is, that is certainly what you will ascribe
this phenomenon to. i've always thought it was the
higher self (or holy spirit, or guides, names don't
matter) giving me a signpost along my way. in fact, i
had a reading that said that such signs were meant to
be positive reinforcers and they often are (even if i
don't heed the advice :-( )

> also, do you think coincidence is more than
> communication?

well, if it's more than communication, what is it?
it's only a synchronicity if we're aware of it, right?
and that means that we have the free will to heed or
not.

> and about the why?... if we believe that coincidence
> might actually
> be communication ("hello... pay attention!"), do you
> think that we
> should be taking it more seriously?

absolutely. it's a special event.

> what do you guys think (about the who, how, and why?
> and if we should
> be doing something, and if so, what could we do?)

upon recognizing a sync, i usually offer some thanks
to whatever did it, and spend a little time trying to
figure out why it happened, although i usually know
immediately if it was a communication about something
specific. a lot of times, it's seems like it's just a
"hi" to keep me positively oriented and energized.

jeremy

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- how bout pat, theres a pat on this list, is that a boy or a girl?

is someone going to be video taping the kentucky seminar? will that
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> haha... one thing to add, i am a he! i know robin can be a girls
name in us
to read your posts.

[David Wilcock]

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- how bout pat, theres a pat on this list, is that a boy or a girl?

is someone going to be video taping the kentucky seminar? will that
be made available for purchase?

dw: we will have video, and hopefully it will be ready after the seminar.
right now i can already tell you that it appears that we will have dvds
(yess!) of the santa fe seminar to vend in louisville - probably all six
hours' worth. i can't say for certain that they'll be ready... but let's
hope...

this ain't "it's pat" on saturday night live - pat's a guy!

peace be with you -

- david



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[Sunny One]

i was looking for a room,
there was an add with the name chris,
and i imagined meeting this beautiful
woman of grace.

when i showed up i met a man named chris,
ya know, 300 lb. greasy guy with tatoos...

i am a guy but i have a high voice,
like a masculine woman. on the phone
if i use "pat", often i will be called
"mam", so i use "patrick" on the phone.

why does sex matter?
i don't have sex with anyone.

pat
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> - how bout pat, theres a pat on this list, is that
> a boy or a girl?
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> > haha... one thing to add, i am a he! i know robin
> can be a girls
> name in us
> to read your posts.
>
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<font color="#0000ff" face="tahoma" size="2">comments about synchronicity and coincidence!

juli wrote and i respond:

ok then, if coincidence is communication (and i agree by the way), then the next questions would be... who is doing it?

</font><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff" face="tahoma">had you stopped to think a little deeper you might have come upon the question; what is doing it? meaning a natural process rather than a thing. then also you might have asked where did this doing come from? meaning perhaps dimension or source. but your question<span class="398323007-01042002">,</span><span class="398323007-01042002">as asked, </span>is very understandable and simply put.

</font>> juli

<font color="#0000ff" face="tahoma"></font><font size="2">then chris put out:

</font></font><font color="#0000ff" face="tahoma" size="2">hi juli,
i believe that it is your higher self giving the messages, and it knows much better than the conscious self of what is going on. whether or not the synchronicities are propitious or require action on the individual's part? i think that is an individual interpretation, just like dreams. get to know what synchronicities you are consistently experiencing and you will have your answers of whether you act on them or not. chris

</font><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff"><font face="tahoma"><span class="398323007-01042002">rj] </span>i am now composing a book title<span class="398323007-01042002">d, </span>we all know when, but??? what is the w?, w? and w of its synchronicity. here i would like to relate an experience that stands as<span class="398323007-01042002">the </span>preface for that book.

a preface: a rush journey on the highways had just began. it started in the congestion of pacific beach and was to pass through mid day traffic of san diego all of my business interests had been sold in anticipation of escaping forever into the vast rural possibilities of a brave new age. my last valuable possession was to be delivered to a buyer in chula vista<span class="398323007-01042002">, a city</span> at the urban limits of the then metropolitan san diego area. my next project was to find a van that would mobilize my dream.

just short of the cross-town freeway, i stopped for an intersection stop sign. in that still moment my<span class="398323007-01042002">,</span> mind went into a strange visual reverie of seeing a gray van in front of me turning to the right. a loud hook behind startled me into the realization that there was actually not a stop sign at that intersection. yet, for reasons unknown, i had seen one and came to a full stop.

a bit disconcerted over the experience i accelerated up the onramp of the freeway to merge with speeding traffic towards the through-town center lanes. a baby blue cadillac was passing on the<span class="398323007-01042002"> </span>right. in a quick glance i saw a very decide blond woman who's lovely face was in a relaxed concentration of driving. her beauty caused my quick glance to linger a second or so longer. in that extended moment of admiration i watched her calm face change to one of terror. in my quick return to a forward view i saw a gray van, exactly as seen in my reverie vision, turning to the right.

an escape swerve to the left was maneuvered while glass from the bb cadillac was flying through my open window. there were braking screams from behind and the sounds of metal forms trying to occupy the same space. braced for an expected slam by someone in the left lane i accelerated past the multi-collisions then in process. i passed a volkswagen bug crunched between the rear end of a dump truck and the truck that the gray van had tried to avoid. the bug had caught on fire. a woman was frantically trying to get out. two hundred feet up the freeway was a station wagon that the dump truck had hit from behind. as i past an elderly gentleman was falling out of the drivers side in what appeared as slow motion. his motionless woman passenger's bloody head was against the shattered windshield.

wow! i was the only car to pass that pile up on the freeway. while i struggled with the decision whether i should stop and run back to give aide, just around the next curve, i saw four highway patrol cars managing a problem in the center median. i immediately pulled over and alerted the nearest officer to the accidents that i had just past. i breathed deeply there in suspended motion listening to my racing heart as four patrol cars sped back around the curve which i had just traveled. why? i asked, "who" watches over me in those critical moments. and, as the survivor "where" is my life headed. "when" will i arrive. and, "what?" i thought, would have happened had i not stopped at the invisible stop sign to watch that gray van of my future turn right?

dear reader, this book is a collection of years of experiences and references in synchronicities which will lead us all closer to those common queries of why, who, where, when and what?

keep sharing the strange world of synchronicity,

rod

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[jm11_11]

--- in asc2k@y..., "rod johnson" <rodj@2...> wrote:
> comments about synchronicity and coincidence!
>
> juli wrote and i respond:
>
> ok then, if coincidence is communication (and i agree by the way),
>then the next questions would be... who is doing it?
>
>had you stopped to think a little deeper you might have come upon
>the question; what is doing it? meaning a natural process rather
>than a thing. then also you might have asked where did this doing
>come from? meaning perhaps dimension or source. but your question,
>as asked, is very understandable and simply put.


hi rod, maybe i'm misinterpreting your comment, and if so, please
accept my apologies, but it does seem to be a little condescending. i
have thought this through very deeply, and because of this, i have
chosen to use "who" rather than "what." why? because there is
definitely a mind behind this communication. i do not know the
physical (or metaphysical) characteristics of this being (god),
perhaps even a type of energy force, and yes, from another dimension
or reality outside our visible scope, but there is definitely a mind
creating and orchestrating all these events leading up to
these "coincidences" (and therefore probably everything else).

even in your example you say... "i asked, "who" watches over me in
those critical moments."

why not "what"? maybe for the same reason i did? because "whos" have
minds and eyes, not "whats."


juli

[Rod Johnson]

juli,

all of your comments were very appropriate. i deeply liked them all.
i was just offering an alternative perspective that points to process.
sort of "what?"ever "who?" is doing.

all critique well taken.

thank you,

rod

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--- in asc2k@y..., "rod johnson" <rodj@2...> wrote:
> comments about synchronicity and coincidence!
>
> juli wrote and i respond:
>
> ok then, if coincidence is communication (and i agree by the way),
>then the next questions would be... who is doing it?
>
>had you stopped to think a little deeper you might have come upon
>the question; what is doing it? meaning a natural process rather
>than a thing. then also you might have asked where did this doing
>come from? meaning perhaps dimension or source. but your question,
>as asked, is very understandable and simply put.


hi rod, maybe i'm misinterpreting your comment, and if so, please
accept my apologies, but it does seem to be a little condescending. i
have thought this through very deeply, and because of this, i have
chosen to use "who" rather than "what." why? because there is
definitely a mind behind this communication. i do not know the
physical (or metaphysical) characteristics of this being (god),
perhaps even a type of energy force, and yes, from another dimension
or reality outside our visible scope, but there is definitely a mind
creating and orchestrating all these events leading up to
these "coincidences" (and therefore probably everything else).

even in your example you say... "i asked, "who" watches over me in
those critical moments."

why not "what"? maybe for the same reason i did? because "whos" have
minds and eyes, not "whats."


juli









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